 Okay, everyone welcome back Let's continue from where we left in your PDFs. We are at the bottom of page 33 page 51 for you guys in hard copy So we've just finished talking about vision and being a strong leader quite intensively Let's move on to the next section. It talks about a strong church a local church is a church where? There's a balance on emphasis on the word of God and on the spirit of God, okay, doctrine Okay, we are strengthened by the word and by the work of the Holy Spirit Acts chapter 20 was 32 acts 2032 Apostle Paul he writes the word of God builds us up Right. It's such a beautiful language You know the exercise that made y'all do last year, you know Some hundred nineteen So the word of God builds us up, okay, you think about you building a building You're building a building, okay? You know from the foundations of it to the plan to the structure to the cement to the materials that you would choose to use Everything you would want to be you know the best like the strong irons You know iron bars and all of that you would want to have the best and so that's exactly the language That's being used here is that the word of God builds you Now it nurtures you it nourishes you it it you are growing it allows you to grow, right? It it creates a capacity in you in you to grow spiritually as well So that's what the word of God does and the Holy Spirit He strengthens us can someone read Ephesians chapter 3 verse 16 Or I'll read it for us Efficiencies chapter 3 verse 16 so it says that according to the riches of his glory, sorry, I'm okay So according to the riches of his glory, he may grant you to be strengthened By the power through his spirit in your inner being Okay strengthened with power through his spirit In your inner being You think about act chapter 2 on act chapter 1 when Jesus says you will when the Holy Spirit comes you will receive Yeah So he is power the spirit of God. He is raw power. I Heard Reynard Bonke. You heard a Reynard Bonke. He gives this a very simple example of a car Vehicle having power steering and manual steering. How many of you drive? Okay, so so how many of you know the difference between a manual steering and a power steering? Okay, so okay, basically Way back so Have you seen laury drivers when they're turning a truck they put on big those It's very heavy, you know because you need all your strength like I drove a manual nano Tata nano, you know, it was hard for me to turn the nano with the manual steering Because it's heavy you're feeling the weight of the vehicle the car imagine laury And then you see power steering All these Volvo buses and all sits and like, you know, just one finger, you know, it's like Make it look like it's a P. You know, it's like, yeah, I'm just putting a Dosa, you know It's like piece of cake, you know And and you see that in the context of our Christian walk is when we try to do things on us by our Self in our own strength. It's a struggle We toil and sweat and whatnot, but Holy Spirit comes into the picture and he says okay Hey, hey, let me help you, you know, he comes and be you know, he's the wind in our sails He just pushes us, you know, either the everything that what we have to do So that's what efficiency 16 set talks about and let's actually read one more scripture Which we are very very familiar with it in efficiency 518 Efficiency 518 we all know this verse. It says do not be drunk with wine for that is debauchery But we filled with the Holy Spirit, right? We filled with the spirit So most of us Christians we follow the first commandment very very well first part of the commandments do not get drunk Holy Holy What about the second part of the commandment, right? You think by not not doing something creates a void which needs to be filled with something else Isn't it it just can't be empty Otherwise sevenfold will come back Isn't it so you Don't be drunk you don't do something But then you do the good thing or the godly thing is to be filled with the Holy Spirit, okay? So that's what it's talking about a church that has a balanced teaching a good doctrine on the word of God and the spirit of God because there are churches there are What do I say? Certain streams of Christianity that emphasizes only on the one thing and forgets the other it's both ways Right, so we don't need to go into that So some of and as we do that there are five areas focus areas that gets strengthened or needs to be strengthened in any local church It's in the notes that the first thing talks about is evangelism Evangelism discipleship prayer and worship fellowship and equipping for ministry. Okay evangelism Going to all the world Right share the good news baptizing them bringing them in okay, so Evangelism has to be more than okay, what comes to your mind when you talk about evangelism What are the some of the different ways and how you evangelize? Sorry Giving the good news. Yeah, okay, so what have what are some of the methods you've seen? being used for this Thing called evangelism one-to-one, okay Right one-to-one. Yeah tracks. You don't see that nowadays much isn't it? Yeah Hmm straight evangelism Okay So one-to-one tracks straight evangelism evangelism crusades Which used to happen so much. We don't see that happening a lot nowadays evangelism crusades. It was huge, isn't it? and Then so yeah, we are in a time and age We were where we cannot just limit ourselves to these things, you know that used to happen Okay, street evangelism tracks And whatnot so before joining a PC. I was part of this organization called Christian vision Yes, he is that was a branch of it. That's you sometimes you would see me wearing a t-shirt called. Yes. He is so We had an app called. Yes. He is and The motto of the that organization or that ring of the organization was to Do evangelism but online? And so we had that app where we and we would create videos That you know like anything the Christian values and whatnot and at the end of it So the difference between a video on YouTube and the video on our app if this app was for Christians to share their faith It's like, you know, if you know someone who's struggling with anxiety or whatever different challenges we will make That idea of videos We will share it to them They will watch it the difference is at the end of that video. There's a prompt Would you like to get in touch with the team and talk more about it? And then the end goal was the end goal was to connect that person to a church a local church from wherever They are calling and so like that we've had people from all across India Connect right to us who would have watched the video who've gone through so many different things from people from every different background And then we were able to connect them to a local church from where they were calling So you think about evangelism We don't think about None of the answers was about online, but online evangelism is pretty huge now, isn't it? So you start thinking about different ways I know a friend who started a coffee shop and he started hiring all these, you know people Who could not afford, you know with great qualities of life and then he would train them how to make coffee And whatnot and in that process he would share with them About Jesus and all of you see there are so many different ways when you lean into God's heart He gives you strategy and he gives you a vision, right? How you can evangelize. So, you know Guess God is the same yesterday today and forever The principle remains the same, but the methods change and so for us to be updated It's very important You know to learn more about evangelism different ways to evangelize. It's very important because that's how your church will grow as well Isn't it? So one of the words in the first two words it says in that evangelism part It says we equip God's people equip is very important Because most of the times it's very simple for me to say all right Go and evangelize today. How? Where? What? Why? When? You see that all those philosophical journalistic questions will come into play, right? And so you equip them That's why we have a lifestyle evangelism That teaches us how to evangelize isn't it? So that's what is it doing? It's equipping us how to evangelize right so evangelism is important discipleship is crucial Discipleship was huge in during the time of Jesus's era in Galilee this This method of discipleship was born in this place called Galilee And no wonder Jesus made it his like you know headquarters for his ministry base, you know So discipleship was pretty The goal of a disciple was simple is that He would look exactly like his rabbi at the end of the course You can't be a disciple forever. There was a certain period of time, right? So again just a brief background a cultural background is In the Jewish system if you're a kid you will be put into Bible college at the age of two It starts from there two or three by the time you are eight, you know the entire Old Testament by heart It's called the Tanakh Not just the Torah Torah is the first five books It's Tanakh is a Tanakh is a mixture of Torah It's poetry and also the prophets So it's yeah, it's the whole of Old Testament. They know it by heart By the age of eight or nine Yeah, it's it's a Jewish thing Okay to everybody it's it's the first thing what they do is they join and I forget the Hebrew name for it It's so here's the thing. So once they graduate from that level, that's the first level or whatever, you know The next thing is the student has a choice that is One is to follow in the profession of the family So the family could have be a fisherman it could be you whatever of those days They could continue to follow into their family's profession or if they could afford They can go and approach a decide a rabbi and say can I be your disciple for the studies and Then the rabbi would gauge and think and and you know do an interview and then decide Okay, yeah, you're worthy to become my disciple. You can follow along with me. Did you hear what just said? Disciple would go to rabbi and say can I be your disciple? What did Jesus do? It's beautiful what Jesus did, right? And so the end of it is the goal is for us in our context in New Covenant is That we would look like Jesus that we would do, you know that we would sound like how he would sound that we would portray we would We use the word represent isn't it? It's simply being a re it's a representing right represent Jesus to the world in our in our Christ like character conduct and service We teach people how to live what I've got in everyday life, etc. Okay Pray and worship of course fellowship And then equipping for ministry Okay equipping for ministry. I want us to look at Let's go to Ephesians chapter 4. Please Okay, Ephesians chapter 4 verse 11 onwards and read it for us okay Efficient for verse 11 it says and he gave The Apostles the prophets the evangelists the shepherds and teachers. I'm reading from ESV. Okay He gave Apostles prophets evangelists shepherds or pastors or teachers Why in verse 12? To equip the saints Right to God's people for the work of ministry for building up the body of Christ. Okay See the progression of it. He gave all of these five-fold ministry To equip the saints that is us the people of God. Why so that the people of God will do the work of the ministry So what is happening? Everybody thinks the work of the ministry is responsibility of the pastors teachers Apostles Our responsibility is to equip the saints That's the mind of So equipping of ministry is very crucial and so it's it's a pretty big culture at least here in APC is Like, you know, there's a huge focus on equipping the church Why we do subjects like healing and deliverance and we keep emphasizing that everybody can do everybody can do Everybody can do and not just the pastors and you know, you know is for this sake Is that they would do the work of the ministry we equip them you go to the work of the ministry That's why this five-fold ministry has been given isn't it? So that's so all of these five-fold five different Areas that strengthens the local church or makes a strong church more stronger. Okay The next part is preparing for pulpit ministry Again, don't forget the title of this chapter. What makes a local church strong and so Part of that is talking about the pulpit ministry That means a person who's standing behind the pulpit and giving the word of God or whatever is being happening from the pulpit ministry Is not taken lightly Right you look at that opportunity you might not necessarily have a pulpit in front of you Okay, but you look at that opportunity as God given it's not some 30 40 minutes. Okay. I this is the next another Sunday thing It's a routine now. I'm just gonna you know speak out of inspiration with our preparation And then take a vacation, you know, so All right, so each opportunity that we have to stand behind the pulpit to minister God's word Must be done with the definite purpose and So some of the areas that pastor Arshish has put down and that what he focuses in how to The topics that he likes to cover in a year, which I'll share in just a second He focuses on these three areas, which is Christian life Which talks about teaching people how to live in the Christian life I for example developing in disciplines in prayer reading God's word walk of faith Etc and life skills teaching people how to live God's word in daily life situations Those are life skills and ministry Teaching people how to minister and serve others etc. So these are and then the topics can vary But it focuses our its birth or born out of these three main areas. Okay So, let me just share a screen This is just an insight Into the sound plan, can you all see that you can see now? Okay, all right, I forgot not all of you are online. Okay, you can see Okay, cool. Okay, I gave you Yeah, right. So that is the Sermon plan initial sermon plan that pastor put for the entire year. This is the pulpit plan, right? So he shares it with me so I can work on the worship team roster and plan the songs accordingly But you know in the notes if you see in Isaiah 46 and it says he knows the end from the beginning So, you know, you seek God not just for one Sunday sermon You seek God for the entire year See what he you know all the topics that he wants to give and if you go through this entire Plan or the sermon plan you will see all the three areas being You know addressed in a one-year sermon plan All of you are looking at this right? I if you wanted I'll share this plan with you later Yeah Yeah Yes. Now again, he's so he's the plan is here, right? No, he's moved around a few things like for example in the month of August We did a different series up. We are doing the series on Thessalonians this month Right. So he but you know an overall plan is there And then you can be flexible to move things around and whatnot. So taking pulpit ministry seriously That's what it is It keeps a strong Local church makes a strong local church and another thing what you all mentioned is And that this you know what talk about the pulpit ministry actually challenged me We had to plan for youth youth ministry You know is I had to have all the subject different topics for you I am very different, okay I deal life one day at a time Okay like Yeah, because tomorrow has its own troubles. Why you know I'm like that sometimes You know one Sunday at a time, okay maximum one month at a time Two months is beyond me One year is Yeah, I need like, you know Someone has to lay hands on me and Impart some wisdom and all so but they're challenged And what he said is true. You isn't it so but when you look at it in a year, how many Sundays are there? 53 54 Right and he said something that actually, you know made it look very different from a different perspective He said I have only 52 Sundays the where I can act 52 times like, you know, it's where I can actually impart something to equip my congregation All right, it's not one entire year when you look at it as a one big year 365 days It looks big, but when you bring it down to just 52 days And 52 days and one not it's not 52 days not 24 hours. I just have one now And so maybe 52 hours and that's very less Isn't it to What you want to accomplish everything in one year So, yeah, having a strong pulpit plan ministry is very important essential Yeah, yeah, so I have always had the flexibility to change things because so Yeah You know, I might or I can just make a list of all the topics that I want to cover And then, you know put it and then but you're leaning on God's guidance for every season Right and suddenly something might stand out. Okay. I feel like doing this Topic now because I feel like that's what God's doing in the season So let's do this and that's always happened. So and you and you also have to be flexible Can't be too rigid about it Yes Yes, have to be flexible Yeah, let's pulpit ministry And a church where people are of one heart and one mind Okay, can someone read that first Corinthians 110 in your notes if you will please First Corinthians 110 Now I plead with you brethren by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ that you all speak the same thing and that There is no division among you But that you be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment Okay, and mark 325 And if a house is divided against itself the house cannot stand The church is known as the house of God Right the household of God And if there's division within it's it cannot stand, isn't it? So he's emphasizing to the church of Corinth So apostle paul has observed Some things in the church of Corinth and that he's wanting to address that There's no unity among them But he's encouraging, you know everybody to just be in the same mind and there's something about unity, isn't it? Again acts chapter 1 and 2 it says they were all gathered together in one accord And then the Holy Spirit fell Right there and time and time again in the Old Testament in first chronicles chapter 16 And so many other times we see where the priests blew their trumpet trumpet at once In one unity when they lifted up their voice in in as one Then the spirit of the Lord came the cloud of God came down And so Unity is huge that's what he mentioned, isn't it Francis? So unity in church that makes a strong local church and again that is just one point a big major point And you can work towards okay, how can I make my church be united? Right, it's very important How do I Help my congregation stay united be united And that's a question that you need to lean on lean into God's heart and get answers from But it's it's a very important thing to have Um the football team that I support is absolutely a mess. They only have united in their name Nothing is united about them at the moment It's so irritating Yeah Another important point is a church that is equipping And releasing people into their God appointed function or destiny is crucial, right? We are again going back to that scripture Ephesians 4 11 to 12, which we just read a couple of minutes ago Is you push the people into you know into the God God appointed calling or function you you recognize, you know, you say, okay, Anand has this Incredible quality of a teacher or whatever you equip and you encourage him and you release him Right, you don't immediately he's got he's got amazing talent I'm going to keep him right next to me forever and ever sign the contract right now He's like put it in his leg next 25 years. You're bound to my church. You break this contract. You have to pay me 25 lakhs Okay, so You know bonded label Uh You know, there's no point in holding the sand tight, isn't it? You kind of it will still continue to go out of your hand But there's some it's such a beauty in releasing people There's such joy in just watching the people you have nurtured that you have equipped are now doing the Lord's work Isn't it? There's such a beauty. There's such so much joy in that Jesus did that he could have you know Just said, okay, I'm going to change the world all by myself. Why did he have to choose 12 disciples? and then go Right. Um, and so equipping and releasing people into God's appointed function is very important And that's another quality of very good of a good leader is that you are able to discern As leaders, I'll tell you this I've experienced this in my life as leaders We have the privilege of seeing a bigger picture of a person's life Most of the times, you know, and the people the young people that I get to lead and whatnot Uh, why do I say, you know, when they ask me certain advice and whatnot, uh, it's like I guide them direct them Okay, no, this is not a good idea. What's not is because you see the bigger picture Okay, and hopefully the decision is coming from the right place is you want the best for them, isn't it? But as leaders, we have this incredible, um Privilege to see this bigger picture and and discern Right. You see the word discern is associated with the word wisdom When God talks to Solomon in his dream Solomon is talking back to God in his dream That's beyond me. Okay But Solomon doesn't ask for wisdom He actually asks help me to discern That I may lead people well God later translate. Okay, you don't know what you're asking for what you need is wisdom What you're asking for is actually wisdom You hear what I'm saying, right? And so as leaders you with wisdom you disarm You know, what's the destiny that God has for you you you and then you kind of push them Right towards the destiny that God has planned for them. Okay Um, and then the next section is the a church that is relevant to the world it is in This is a very interesting topic A church that is relevant to the world that it is in. Okay question question time Is the church relevant For today's day and age that means do we need church in this day and age? Is it relevant? More than ever why Why is the church relevant? That's the first question. Yes. Okay Why is the church relevant? It's also for those online. Okay, please feel free. Yeah Because that's what God intended like we should know the God through preaching And somebody has to tell people about the word Um, and Jesus is coming back now. So all the more we have no time. Yeah Okay, Jesus is coming back soon. Jesus, please come back soon. You're saying Lord come back soon Lord I don't like my classmates Okay, yeah, go on go on tell me. Yeah Why is the church relevant To correct and show the people like to show what is a Actually, what is life actually? So, you know one of the huge argument from the world today is Why do we have to follow a book that is so old? It's just another book that tells us how to live life how to do life It's not relevant to this day and age. It doesn't make sense. It's not contextually right That is the real argument Is Jesus relevant to this day and age? It's a very serious question to think You know and because I'm asking the question. Why is that's exactly what you will be asked By the world Why and how tell me Okay And so it's it's a point for us to all ponder. There's a scripture that is mentioned there first quarantine chapter nine Was 19 to 23 in your notes. I want to read from the message version. Okay This is apostle paul again. He's explaining How he's trying to be relevant to the audience that he's leading or that he is preaching to Right Um, so if you can go to the message version or find the message version online, you have the permission to use your phone Yeah first Corinthians chapter nine was 19 to 23 I'll I'll read it. Yeah Um, thank you nina john for sharing. It's called. Yeah It's called out body representing jesus christ absolutely vital to the point people to christ. Yeah Okay, first Corinthians chapter nine was 19 to 23 in the message version It says even though I am free of the demands and expectations of everyone That means he's saying he does not have to meet anyone's expectation There is no expectation set on him. Right. He's free of the demands and expectations of everyone I have voluntarily become a servant To any and all in order To reach a wide range of people I have voluntarily become a servant just so I can be relevant to a wide range of people. That's what he's saying Religious non-religious meticulous moralists loose life loose living immoralists the defeated the demoralized whoever I didn't take on their way of life if you highlight that okay I didn't take on their way of life. I kept my bearings in christ But I entered their world and tried to experience things From their point of view I've become just about every sort of servant there is in my attempts to lead Those I meet in god save life I did all this because of the message. I didn't just want to talk about it. I want to be in on it Talk about a leader Okay, there was a you know, there's a global leadership summit that happens every year GLS it's called and One of the panel had to decide and define leadership in one word They were given some hours of time and they said Okay, if a leadership could be defined with one word It's the word Any idea take a guess No, one word that was used to define leadership by the span of it. Come on. Those are my wild guess servant What else? I beg your pardon accountable. No No, no slave. No problem Inspiration very close to happens But it's not the one What you say Influence Yeah So they came up a leader will always influence So leadership is not about position You can still not be have the title of a leader but influence the entire class It could be a bad thing or a good thing You can have good influence or you can have Bad influence Isn't it so what apostle paul is saying here is that I voluntarily stepped into their world But I did not conform to their ways. That means I did not I did not allow them to influence me What I try to do is influence them It's dangerous territory. If you're not strong in god, that's all Okay, I'm gonna look like them. I'm gonna do everything like them because I want to influence them The next thing you know is you're being influenced by them It's like a pastor dragged This pass on, you know You know what I'm saying So look at now the actual version In the notes first Corinthians nine 1923 says for though I am free from all men. I have made myself a servant to all That I might win the more And to the Jews I become became as a Jew That I might win Jews to those who are under the law that he's talking about the Gentiles As under the law that I might win those who are under the law Okay, and those who are without law as without law It's like almost like a tongue twister, isn't it like okay paul. What are you trying to see right now, you know um, but think about it Jews had their own way of living life Gentiles had their own ways of living life right imagine the I mean the knowledge and the wisdom that paul must have had and the strength Of the holy spirit that he must have had to have influence on all these different cultural Uh, you know people ethnicity and whatnot. Are you guys with me so far understanding following? Yeah, the point we are talking about was is the church relevant to the world and why and how can be uh You know be relevant to the world Okay salt and light All right, and just a couple more other points one last thing is a church that is raising up leaders I want to combine this point with the next one a church that is able to establish continuity, okay It's one one on the same. So uh, kind of a church that is raising up leaders and a church that is able to establish continuity, okay Galatians 2 9 it says and when james keifers and uh, john who seemed to be pillars Perceived the grace that had been given to me. They gave me and barnabas the right hand of fellowship That we should go to the Gentiles And that and they to be and and they to the circumcised that means They were raising up leaders. They came with a game plan and say, okay, you go minister to the Gentiles We'll go minister to the jews Okay, they were raising up leaders. They're equipping them Right and they're going out to minister to the work of the ministry And then the next point says and the church that is able to establish continuity So second Timothy 2 1 and 2 it says you therefore my son be strong in the grace that is in jesus christ And the things that you may have heard from me among many witnesses Commit these to the faithful men who will be able to teach others also So what is he saying is He's simply saying that your position there is not permanent That means It's not permanent Right very quickly. Let's just wait. Let me just find that verse is go to the book of numbers. I hope I It's the right verse Please be right. Okay. Let's go to numbers chapter 8 verse 25 very quickly Okay numbers 8 25 Okay numbers chapter 8 verse 25 it says and from the age of 50 years They shall withdraw from the duty of the service and serve no more. What is it talking about? They're talking about the levitical priests Okay, it says okay All right, you will be serving as priests. That means you will have a certain responsibility But when you hit 50 retire Your responsibilities will change and then younger men will come and take the place Okay, so it's biblical to have continuity like, you know, it's uh I'm gonna I started off as a senior pastor I'm gonna die as a senior pastor without any continuity after I die and go The church is going to perish. Nobody is going to be there. Uh, you know, there's no plan There's no plan of continuity, etc. Etc. Right and that is Not a mark of a strong local church Are you guys with me? Yeah, so to have you're constantly raising up leaders You are equipping them and then you are preparing for continuity You're planning ahead. Okay. So what is going to happen when I'm gone? Right Are you all with me? Okay, so all of these points are Points for what makes a strong local church any thoughts or comments questions Possibly from the beginning part of this chapter Um, is vision and calling same vision and calling the same thing Is vision and the calling the same huh I think it kind of goes hand in hand, but It's the same but different. I don't know how to define it like I mean you can have a calling but have but still not have vision for example, I have a calling to I have I have a call to serve the youth for example How where? You know the vision So it's it seems so generic, isn't it like I have a calling for the worship ministry. I have a calling for healing ministry That's my calling. God has called me to do healing ministry Okay, so where's the vision? What what is the vision? What are you going to do? Where are you going to play, you know, set your base? How are you going to establish that ministry? So that's the vision part of it. So you can have a calling and still not have vision You know what I'm saying? Yes, many are called fewer chosen Having a calling and no vision but see you'll at least have a calling Right, so you know Okay, this is what I'm called to do and so now it is your responsibility to wait on God Okay, okay. Lord. You've called me to do this. I think most of us can relate to that, isn't it Lord You've called me for this What do you want me to do? Show me? How do I do this? Yes If I know what God called me to do then Like you told right if you have a calling or we have to wait on God for vision Yeah And is it like necessary like my question is like if I know what I have to do Is it not like I have to work on it how to do instead of having a waiting for God to give a vision Is it not like God is like God I already told you God is telling me I already told you you have to start a church. So you should go use the resources and start Or is it like I have to wait and God show me vision on how to do it Everything is given at that time, isn't it? So you have a calling and so again God tells you what to do You know What you can do and and there are other common things like what you just said like things that are common sense You know that you can that you can work on on yourself like to upskill yourself So, yeah Yeah Yeah, so yes And along the process that he will guide you know Um, so again when God calls Abraham God tells he's calling Abraham Right, he says Leave your father's house leave your land and go What does he say go To the place I will show you That means he didn't show Right But Abraham responded Right. He he left and he went not knowing where exactly but along the way he becomes very intimate with his walk with God. So, yeah So possibly would you call um The like we have the kairos and the chronos moment in our lives So would you call the kairos moment in our lives the vision and the chronos the calling No, I haven't complicated it so much So Every season it changes. Okay kairos and chronos. How many of you all know the difference? But what's the actual definition of chronos? Where does it come from the word? Yeah see Chronicles chronology comes from The word chronos, right? It's the actual time like what's you know in order Kairos is the divine time as you know, like what you are defining saying so Like I said, I haven't complicated like that um So, what do you want to know? Yeah Yeah No, it's it's chronos again is different, isn't it? So it's it's almost like the natural part of it like it's not connected Chronos is different kairos is different. That's where they are two different words Yeah Yeah, so that we are yeah, we are talking about one thing and we are it's very different things Yeah, it's Yeah But then okay, just to make you feel okay. So he might share some of the things with you in his right in the right time That could be your kairos moment If you want to know, right? So, yeah Yeah, thanks Nina kairos is the appointed time. Yeah Yeah Okay, we'll stop here and we'll continue having this discussion, but thank you for joining in everybody. God bless you Have a good one