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Well, you start well the first obvious one I suppose we need to talk about this whole different strokes thing Get out the big guns Well, I just start off hit hard hitting right away That's it Darn it that different strokes kids. You remember they were Gary Coleman Todd Bridges and Dana Play-Doh basically See the tabloids that Gary Coleman was selling cars now. Yep. Would you buy a car from him? The leads the actually the most trustworthy Yeah, he's only been able to keep out of trouble. He's selling cars Got an honest job. He's not holding up video stores He's away from his parents who he accused of taking all his money and probably did it leading him astray or whatever But I don't know. I just can't see him selling cars. You know You're looking for the car I'm looking all around for the salesperson Excuse me. Can I help you? Commercials Mr. Riker What you talking about you want to use Another movie. Well, then of course. Well, there's that Dana Play-Doh Armed dangerous wacky wacky Dana Play-Doh. She Did she did she do a playboy? Yes, she did. She did a playboy thing What's wrong with that? She'll pay for it. Yeah, but then I guess you must have spent that money right away The next time we heard about her she's uh On a 7-eleven type camera thing. She had held up a video store She needed the bread Well, that's what I said. She spent that that other money up right away made by a gun We could be armed robber here. I mean it was a toy gun, but yeah, whatever. She whatever She was she did it and it's like she didn't even look up at the camera And then she tried to deny it later, but yet they had the film And then no sooner than she'd get off of that one then she did something else like that again. It's like she did it again silly silly child And then of course Todd Bridges Poor Conrad Bain is going to be feeling really bad at this point. Let's let one of the least successful tv fathers Well, even the other even the even the other but the other kid that was on the show in the later years Danny Cooksey Yeah He's he's he's getting these bad boy roles all the time now. He was in terminator two playing the best friend It was like no mr. Cop. I haven't seen John Connor. Yeah And he's on a nickelodeon show called salute your shorts where he plays bud nick the bad kid Amazing But he was little Sam on the show with a little guitar little country twang. That's the Dixie Carter's son. Oh, yeah He's lost the country twang. He plays heavy metal now So he's like the only one that's really stayed in the acting thing totally and he's he's doing rather well with it Well, then you have your Todd Bridges here who was playing the bad kid Well, I was on the show being the bad kid The show fish before he was on the Yeah, oh, yeah That was a kind of I guess a popular one a lot of a lot of kid actors were on there and fish was a spin off of Barney miller Right And he was uh, well fish was kind of helping out some underprivileged kids when that was the deal kind of thing Yeah, and then he went on to this different strokes thing where he was Willis Jackson and then he was an orphan And then from there well, we didn't hear about him for a while It's like he still lived off the different strokes there. He was okay And then I guess he uh, I don't know Besides a child those things he missed out on in childhood Pretty much, uh, let's do some dope. Let's do some stealing some cars Did you do some assaulting battery too? He probably did. Oh, I think he was in a It was a whole big thing of being in a car having dope Um Getting in trouble with the police possibly getting into a little altercation there It's kind of all just uh, just a big night That's a big night a big weekend big night for Todd He just had a day man. It was a day and then he of course tried to deny it Yeah Bad case of denial there, which is the the seems to be the the thing to do if you're caught doing something Well, try first to deny it And then Then blame it on the fact that um, you were a showbiz kid. You were a showbiz kid basically It twisted my life. Yes. I just couldn't have a normal life after that another one who's gotten in trouble in the past year is butch patrick yeah Butch patrick who was on the monster slugging somebody over a limousine or something Something about um, let's see. What was it? He's he's Was he he didn't want to pay for the limousine something like that And he ended up slugging on butch patrick End up slugging slugging Trying to fix his hair to look like Two years I could open popcans with my teeth. Remember I had the little wolfie. Get off. Yeah, cost a hundred dollars now here You could have one of those. I won't pay for this ride Yeah, they didn't pay him for driving or something. It was something like that Something dealing with a limo and money and somebody being hit Repeatedly Food for the tabloid Who do we got next? Well, just going alphabetically here. I see daniel brisebois She was uh, she's playing She was in uh, she was in the hanny movie or something. She was in the broadway And now what's happened to her? Well, let's see, um She's in broadway Number of series including daytime soap opera. She was in all my children. She was the world turns She aspires a career as an opera singer Good luck. Isn't that nice And then there's tiffani brisette Who was on small wonder as vicki the little little robot? Oh, come on. Can we even count that? Forget that. Well, of course that's that's kind of all they say about her. So yeah, thank goodness The one I saw this summer, um on tv Johnny wittaker. Yeah. Yeah, fluffy jowdy. Seriously. Well sissy was on the show too And they hadn't seen each other for just years 15 years or so because of course, unless the jones is dead Yeah, poor little buffy. Oh, the whole family of everything Johnny wittaker is what? Divorced twice well at least once at least once And um and dag on it. If he smells manure, he'll look for the pony. Well, no, if he's in it He's in a room full of manure. He'll look for the pony. That's right because he's mister He's mister brightness and sunshine and he's always looking for the the silver lining behind that dark cloud So optimistic means we wonder what he did. He went he did several things after family affair I mean he's made a whole lot of little appearances here and there and he did a couple movies movies and stuff and then Sissy what was her real name? She'll always be sissy she she does children's books on audio tape. Yes Kathy garner yes, and she's writing music So she's like real successful and stuff although we you'd never really hear her name much anymore But she's still out there. So bill moomey. He went into music too He's done several things if you call fish heads a song Well now he's done several things he's doing these uh writing comic books and uh Only big in the comics. He's uh hunting produced a couple things or at least he's appeared in other he's appeared in movies right as um that were kind of like um Recreations of characters he had done earlier because he was in that twilight zone movie And right the one episode where in the original series He had played the little kid in the cornfield or the kid who could make things happen He lived out right out in the middle of nowhere. And so um, he was in the the remake of that episode He was one of the kids in the world where they anyway, he was in it And then he has done the uh comic book thing. He's done several different comics gosh And in fact, he's even in on the um the lost in space comic that they're That one um company is doing Cool helping with that. So yeah bill. He's been active. He's Hasn't let not acting Stop him. He's Unlike Danny Bonaducci Hey Now Danny worked after partridge family That's true. He he did he did radio and things like that. He probably you know tv Lived off the partridge thing there for a while He's doing some community work now because of other Drug-related kind of things, you know now that uh susan day is finally finally left la law now They can just keep dany out of out of jail long enough They can they can do that long-awaited big uh partridge family reunion tour So who will they get which one of the little kids will they get to play the youngest? I'll get another one. What the heck? David cast is an album out coming out called um Weren't you or what is it? Didn't you used to be? Because he's decided he wanted to beat everybody to the punch line there Well some other people uh from uh loss in space and we heard much about the angela cartwright Um, there's penny Angela, no we hear more about veronica veronica still doing movies Um because she was in well alien and she was in um Invasion of the body snatchers right she always seems to play the kid that starts crying Of course the lady that starts crying a lot that uncontrollable crying thing Or screaming or something it's or a scream that turns into a cry and her whole face just distorted this She still she still has that ability because what she was she in the birds was that veronica I think it was veronica that was in the bird. I don't know but anyway in that she Starts that crying thing Exactly So who else we got here? Well, let's let's move on along here. Um, it's just alphabetically and My galley will come up with somebody here Here we go From the show julia Did he grow up? I have no idea I like that. That's all they have listed here. Cory. I have no idea Hollis man That's it. Have you seen this child? Also, um from that from that same show there was um Michael link, okay, and what's he doing now? I have no idea obvious opi. Yeah, yeah little opi cutting ham Ron Howard is now like mr. Mega rich super director producer bald guy bald guy Where's that? Yeah, and and of course his little brother clinton howard who if ron howard doesn't move being well clinton howard Basically if ron howard does just did just about anything even when he was just done on tv there Clint would appear in there somewhere because clinton made his tv a debut as in ron series Um the intergurfa show. Oh, yeah, that was definitely ron series. He definitely carried it Well, I mean it's like his brother was in there You better get your brother apart because if i'm going to drive you i've got to get him up and get him dressed He's like get him apart. He might as well play in my thriller And then by golly that clinton went on to be the little little baylock It's a trunnion the trunnion in the star trek thing That just kind of goes and you know, I had a scary thought what is ron howard related at all to kin howard What would I don't know? I don't think so. I don't think so. I was just curious about that because It's one of those scary things that you just never think about but Yeah You just don't know and then speaking of speaking of the star trek thing with clinton howard there By golly. Bye golly. We'll move on to just My least favorite of oh no of all these child actresses attract actor That darn hard panel of ferdin Who just seemed to appear anything that was being done? My gosh If there was a show that was on if she wasn't in it she Yeah, it was lucy for a long time right and peanut Yeah, she did the lucy voice and the peanut shows that were on she was well Let's see they have her here as being in the the john foresight show from 65 to 66 She was in the blondie show playing cookie from 68 to 69 she was in the paul in show and it was on from like 72 to 73 she was in Lassie adventures from 73 to 74 She was quite active on saturday morning series in the 1970s Both providing cartoon voices and appearing in live action shows like curiosity Was that um space academy she like was on there which became jaycef star come in I think she would might even have been on there that darn panel of ferdin Of course if it wasn't panel of ferdin it was jody foster Well, this is true that you can pretty much say jody got all the parts of pam didn't have time to do Or either that or they well, this is probably true because I think jody might be a little younger than pam Although they might be about the same age. I think jody's casting call after casting calling most show up to him Oh jody and pamela It's like pam got all the things when she was younger and then jody started getting them as is Pam got a little older. It's like jody was. Oh, well, she's kind of cute Then she got to be like taller and stockier or something And so then she got like older girl parts, even though she was still younger And now she's finally coming to her own and pamela ferdin has fallen completely off the face of the earth. So Yeah, jody's like Director oh, yeah big big time oscar oscar base yes In that darn panel of ferdin, we don't know. I don't know exactly where she is now She's probably watching the show and gonna write me a nasty Hey, don't you remember me? I'm not darn pamela ferdin. Just knock on the door. I think you remember sir Pamela ferdin She was in that that one um star trek episode about the ferdinand show Which also had that fire and snow All the angels we will go Far away Friendly angel come to me One of the weakest episodes Certainly no question. Also on that episode was um, brian toky. That's the little oriental kid Friday and whenever they needed a token oriental kid exactly pretty much and he he went on to be in other things. Um, let's see On an and the king, which was a kind of a syndicate. Oh the comedy. He played crown prince That was He was in a show called renegades in 1983 where he played a kid named dragon Well, I guess he wasn't in much of a kid anymore. He's probably not a teenager here and He's dragon. I guess because he probably did martial arts. I'm guessing And then he was on a st. Elsewhere And say 84 to 85 playing dr. Allen poe and see he was also on that space academy And the children's video magazine razzmatazz He had a recurring role on hawaii 5o as johnny lee And then from there he was well even before that gee whiz he was on he and she is um Richard benjamin and paul apprentices adopted son. This was in 1968. So that was before then It's probably right around the same time. He did the star trek right and then most recently he's been in the police academy movies Well, and another star trek reference elinor donahue, of course first on father knows best as princess And of course later she did that that darn episode She was the it's been a while since i've seen that episode actually, but uh, she meets zefram cocker in on that planet and uh, she was uh, she was like this Diplomat or some sort of deal and they were supposed to get somewhere like they always are on star trek They're supposed to be getting somewhere And the shuttlecraft breaks down right and they're flying zefram cocker Who was like an astronaut from what our time or something? No, no, no, no like he's he's the guy who would have vented warp drive Okay for a century Okay, but he's still alive. Yeah, and of course now elinor donahue you see her on Uh, you see her guest star and stuff a lot. I don't know Oh, she's in there Isn't she uh, chris piercings mama? Oh, that's right. Yeah, you know, it shows that incredibly ugly Get a life. Get a life. Yeah, which was another star trek reference Oh, man amazing. Well, how about jennet jackson? She was a child actress on good times, of course you wouldn't recognize No I'm just wondering is she her brother trying to like buy up all those old good times Oh, get that one. I had the old nose The Ted turners got them all gonna My millions against yours I'm gonna decolorize them Jimmy jj walkers buying them all up Why does he can see what he wasn't quite as ugly as I can remember when he had a career I think he's still there to stand up actually. Well, he probably wasn't actually a kid. He was playing a kid Yeah, but he was but he wasn't actually a kid. Well, that was a big thing and you see that still today the idea of people Way too old playing these parts. Michael j fox made a career out of it. Right And he still is yeah Well, now he's you know, the last things he's been in he's kind of played more of an adult more of an adult but I mean, you know, he got from from watching an interview with him He's actually canadian, but he got his green card because he is Short and looked young. Right. He did like wears boomer and shows like this. So, you know, he could play that That a kid part and play it like the intelligent kid The smart kid the rules because he was actually older Amazing simply amazing amazing Well, it's it's just amazing It really really About j north Yep, well the last picture I saw him. He looked like a giant dentist to men It was actually that is scary. Yeah, of course now they're doing a new dentist to men's movie Oh, why? I don't know. Maybe copal is doing it. I don't know. I think j north was pretty much the dentist. You know Well, I have here. He was irritating. I have lisa garrison Lisa garrison who has just did several things. Um, my world and welcome to her back in 69 70 Mary tally more show then on to phyllis where she played best lynstrum in the boat Yeah, so um, but what's she doing now? Oh, I don't know. We don't know call us call us We'll get to all the gaxons. Maybe she's got rid of those braces. Yeah She knows what's good for her and of course, there's gerrymathers As the beaver as the beaver Well, I guess I'm not making that anymore. Are they finally they killed that off Let's see eddie haskell grew up and became a cop and then went back to being eddie haskell again He got his son on the new show. Who's that nepotism? Really? It's like they all know it's like tony dal gerrymathers Never really heard about him again until they did good leave it to beaver stuff again It's like they've just made a life of it Well, there was that big rumor going on for you the gerrymathers had gone and was killed and was blown away Yeah, that went on for years like the the mickey the kid from the life cereal boxes that got to nom or something Yeah, mickey had gone to nom and gotten blown up too Yeah, the most recent one the kid on the uh, the rally's commercials died somehow, you know Oh, yeah, he was supposedly blown up in kuey. Yeah, but he hasn't And what about the uh, what was the whole thing with the uh, somebody had taken pop rocks and drank pop with him and blown up They they said several several lots of different people. I suppose we had done that child Then there was that story about rod steward, but that's another show Well, how about those wacky nelson's, huh? There's david nelson. There's there's ricky nelson There's there's there's his daughter tracy nelson. I mean this nelson This goes on and on and on then there's just the nelson's. Yeah, it just goes on and on and on Nelson nelson nelson dynasty, huh? Yeah, they just those darn nelson You had to wonder would I would ozzie and harry be kind of like spinning wildly in their graves for the for nelson That's my question. You know, he's spinning wildly for nelson No, it's like not even records CDs now One of these one of these records you speak of That's right. Well, that's just how old we are. My children are amazed by my eight track tape Wow Eight tracks That's another show Oh, and then I found a scary one in here probably one of the the scariest the scariest of um Actresses on Mackenzie Phillips But valory did rather not valory burton ellie did rather very well queen of the the miniseries Eddie van halen's wife. Yeah Oh, it's not like the mick jagger bianca jagger thing all over again And he's like I want a wife and I want to look just like me He always had nea peoples look like a young uh valory burton ellie I don't know But this is mackenzie philips things this is funny here Mackenzie Phillips represents one of the most widely publicized examples of disastrous effects that drugs can have on a performance Hey, didn't you have to go through rehab with her dad? Yeah For mama and papas who are mamas and papas their dad john philips who was running the mamas and the papas and by golly, she was She just did the whole drug and alcohol there And I think it just wore on her face. It's like you could see it on her face That whole series can she look more and more like mick jagger Amazing well looks like we're running out of time So next time on vast wasteland. It's the first edition of vast wasteland the comics edition So tune in for that. We're gonna be talking about the history of dc comics So you'll want to tune in for that. Hmm and for all of us here at vast wasteland We'll see you next time