 Hello, and welcome to Let's Talk Tachles. It's so good to have you again with us. Yes, it's been a while. I know you all wanted to hear more and I also wanted to broadcast more, but we are here when looking forward, we're not looking the rear view mirror, right? We'll begin this new season today with a very unique and special guest. And I promise you that you will tell me the same once you watch this episode. Today we have a guest that, in my opinion, can write the best seller book that will sell tens of thousands of copies and will have to reprint and reprint the book without too many adjustments because the story is so riveting and so amazing and so in a way heartbreaking. On the other hand, it's so overwhelming and heartwarming that this would be a story you'll all remember. So without further ado, it's my honor to introduce to you Rabbi Mister Mothchazama Meisles. Hello. Hi, how are you? Mothchazam, welcome to Let's Talk Tachles. Thanks for having me here. Are you kidding? Pleasure is all mine. So let's get straight to the point. Why are we having Mr. Meisles here today? Mr. Meisles is a friend of mine for many years and is a friend of very many yeetans that need help, that need ascooness, that need just a good smile on the face. But one day he was hit with a very big load of bricks, let's say, to say the least. And I wanna let him quickly say what happened. On the very big day that changes life, maybe forever or possibly just for a few years. So the mark is all yours. So first of all, I know him from years. He's a friend of my father and the family. Thank you. So even before I was born, I even went to remember to look at an apartment in your house before I got married. Don't make me so old, okay? So we know each other for a long time. We even dove in together now. Yes. Mothchazam, yes. So we went through a lot of good times, hard times, smile times, sad times together. So basically, let me just begin to tell you why you called me probably. And I'll begin my story that happened now at December 12th is gonna be four years. An unfortunate four years that didn't just change my life forever, it changed my family's life. It changed my friend's life. It changed a lot of people's lives forever. So on December 12th, I traveled there to Sidhu and I went with my wife. My wife never ever went to Israel before. I went multiple times and not she didn't go because she didn't want to go. She didn't have interest. She just didn't want to leave the kids. That was her. She never ever wanted to leave her kids alone. She said, let me stay home, you go. It's not a time. My Shvir is very close to Radoshinsky from it's Sidhu. From there, I got my connection to him and he was marrying Worf as youngest child. So I would be being close to him even sleep to my house a few times. I told my wife I'm going and she said, you know what? This time I'm coming along. I said, sure, my pleasure. She never went on vacation. We never ever went on vacation in 17 years. Saved a lot of money. A lot of money, but you know what? I'll get to the point where I think you should go on vacation. And we scheduled the trip. Now two days after Hanukkah, I went. We flew out to Israel. It was on a Tuesday. It was a Monday night. We got the Tuesday morning. It was a gorgeous flight. The excitement was unbelievable because she was never there. And it's our first vacation together with a family of five, Kindelik and I and the other. And we land and we were supposed to go to Mitspadi Mon, that's in the Negev. That's around two hours from Inshalayim for a few days. And then we're supposed to come Thursday to Inshalayim to spend Shabbos. So we wanted a little bit to rest up a little bit. As we land, I told her that I have a policy that before I do anything in Israel, I go to the coastal. I dove in there and then we can go wherever she says, no, we'll be back Thursday. We'll go then. I told her, no, it's not happening. I have to go. So we came, we arrived around 10 o'clock in the morning. We went the first thing to the coastal. I went to Daven. She went. She comes back. She tells me, you know, thanks. Thank you so much. The, I never ever had such a feeling, such a spiritual feeling as I had because she was never there. Thank you. Now we can go. Tuesday night, we get to Mitspadi Mon, the Negev, to the Breshet Hotel, whoever knows it's a very luxurious hotel. A lot of tourists go there. And it's good, very good for vacation. We ate supper, we went to sleep. Wednesday morning at around, I think around 10 o'clock, we get downstairs after Davening and we go to the front desk and we asked them what was there to do in the area. So we said, there's a lot of action. There's jeeping, there's a horse tour. It goes a little bit around. So I told my wife, let's go jeeping. No, my man's a little bit more wild and he likes to have a little bit more fun. I'm not going on a dead horse. She said she's scared because you heard that the horse is not trained. Let's go on the horse. I said, no problem. So we get to Alpaca Farm. It's like 10 minutes away from the hotel. And I'm not sure exactly the timing, probably around 10.30 or something like that. And we wait there and the guy greets us, comes out, a very nice guy, and says, I'm gonna be your tour guide today. Let's go put on helmets. I look at them helmets. I mean, these horses, don't even look at, they can walk. They can't run. But he says, that's the policy. I was thinking even two year olds go on this horse. Okay, we put it on. We start going on the tour. I would say we were more than halfway through. I guess separate two horses. Two separate horses on the tour guide. There was three of us. And in the middle, she tells me, I asked her how I was going. I turn around, she tells me with a smile. Wow. Look at this, the Flewis Aboyler. Because there you can see the unbelievable, the Flewis Aboyler from the Irish, that once you go on this, you go few miles and miles and miles on the horse. But you can see all the gorgeous views. Valleys. That was unbelievable. So she tells me, why didn't we do one until now? I would say a minute later, you couldn't even see a plane pass, but an IDF plane passed and it gives an unbelievable supersonic boom. As I gave the supersonic boom, I'll tell you the truth that I still hear it in my ear. That supersonic boom is so painful to me especially that I still hear it sometimes, especially when a plane goes. So the plane goes farther, faster than I can see. It gives such a supersonic boom that it spook the horses. The horses went wild. The tour guide was screaming, we should pull back. The strings to start to stop it, but not just we couldn't, the tour guide couldn't. So the first thing that happened, she was behind me. I saw her flying airborne off the horse because she couldn't hold on because the horse throws himself. It's impossible to connect. And she went flying. I had no idea where she flew. The horse was throwing me off so I just broke my throat and I jumped off. And he ran off his horse. I still see him run off the head and jump off. The first second I was looking around. I was screaming, 30, where are you? Didn't hear a voice. All of a sudden I saw her down there. A little throw a few feet away, laying on her back. And me and the tour guide ran over and I saw she was lifeless. Being involved in the hospital setting for years, helping people in emergency rooms, I've seen plenty. Not gonna go into details what I saw, but she was not breathing at the moment. So I asked the guy, do you know first aid, CPR, could you help me? I said, I'll tell you the truth. I never ever had such an issue. I don't even know how to put on a bandaid. But the problem was he didn't even have a horse to call for help. There was no phone service. So he walked down for probably like two, three miles to get help while he left me with my wife. I did CPR, I was trying to help her as much as I could. That was probably for like 20 minutes. I can't, 23 minutes later, the IDF came. Running off, they couldn't even come at the helicopter because it was impossible to land. And they started working on her. Now, when this happened, I was totally lost. I didn't know what to do. But while I was trying to keep her alive, I was screaming to her, 30, you have five kids. You gotta keep on holding. You gotta keep strong. Please keep strong for your kids. Please, please, I was crying to her. She was mumbling, but I couldn't hear. I mean, she was basically not here. At one point, I put her hands on her eyes and I said, she might as well, because I saw that I didn't believe it's impossible for her to survive this injury, this brain injury. They came. First, I called the Boba Vedebe, to be masker. And then I called my brother-in-law. His name was Yisha Gold. You know, we dove together. And I told him, where we're holding her, he should go, he has to go tell his parents. He said he can't, he doesn't know what to do. So he ran to the Arpanet that gave his first shade in the morning. I think it was six o'clock. And he told him what's going on. My brother-in-law just called me with his armor. What do I do? I can't tell my parents. He says, you have to go tell your mother, because there's nothing in the world like mother's tears to see what he told him. So after a while, he went to tell his mother. And the first thing that she did, she started crying, but she grabbed the hilim and said to hilim, as I calculated, I won't spoke to him about it. It was about the time when Hatsula brought her back, when she started to say to hilim because they thought it was almost impossible to bring her back. So let me just ask you a small technical question. Hatsula was brought in later to the scene also. So mother was there. Yes, Israeli. Not just mother was there. It was also Hatsula, mother and the IDF were there. They were all three there together and they carried her off by hand, but there was a helicopter waiting. Now, making phone calls, having connections, they want to take her to Seraka Hospital. Seraka Hospital is very close and that's the law. That's the law you have to take to the first, it's all over the place, the whole world, the first trauma center. I got connected to somebody, they said it's impossible that she'll be able to be saved there. You have to take her to Hadassah Hospital. The helicopter didn't want to stop. Through the connections, they got Litzman, he was then the Sadr Hibriyot, to call the helicopter, the people there. And just tell our audience, that means the health minister. The health minister in Israel. And he said, he's there in Hadassah, you better bring her here. The helicopter did against their will and brought her to Hadassah. But I wasn't allowed to go on the helicopter, so first they took me to the police station to give a police report. And from there, they drove her halfway and I had some good Jews, Monty Kraus, and all the people picked me up and drove me to the hospital. And I forgot to say, I broke them, my fingers, my wrist on my back. I was in terrible pain because my fingers was twisted and I was thinking of myself once. I don't even know how I did CPR with a broken finger. I was gonna say, it's so typical you to forget what broke on you. So the adrenaline from a person that goes through something, forget certain things to save, especially it's your wife's life. So let's go fast forward. So when I got to the hospital, I met it to Tzadikim. They have an organization, it's called Yadavruam. Everybody in Israel knows about them. The father's name is Shimon Brown. He was once a Tolkosahana that was Gaba and the son's name is Kheski Brown. Today Kheski and Shimon are my like brothers. They were waiting for her in Odessa. They gather a doctor to operate, to operate the soldiers when they get shot. The funny thing is that a soldier got shot that day and he operated on that soldier as well. That soldier's still alive. That soldier was actually also clinically dead. I still keep up with the father. I actually spoke to him two weeks ago. He had a eignacle. He made a Pidina Ben. But it was all the same time. But getting there, I saw that it didn't look so good and I was lost and I didn't know anybody in Israel. It was very, very tough for me. What's going on? What am I gonna do? I have five kids at home. What's my first thing I do? So I get there. I see Kheski Brown. He comes over to me and he hugs me and tells me, don't worry. I am here for you. I'm your new partner. We're gonna go through this. Meanwhile, my father-in-law found out and everybody and he caught the first flight to Israel. I also had my three sisters with their husbands. Came, I'm the only boy. Couple. Yes, and they stayed for me actually as long as I was in Israel until I came back because they didn't want to leave me alone. And there, the Shinski son came and I had a few familiar faces to feel. Remember who else was there? To feel comfortable. Remember who else? Yes, you were also there. But you came a few minutes later. Right, it happens to be I arrived that morning and I told my wife that's the first place we have to go. So your wife came with me? Correct, so I met you actually it was the next morning, if I remember. She was already in a room. Right. So of course I remember. And I met your mother-in-law then. Correct. And the first thing that happened is I saw that Kheski Brown was walking about the fourth and pacing. I did not, it did not look good. Hashem actually was very grateful for me. There's a ask in a bar park that everybody knows. His name is Kheski Rosenberg. He's a medic in Otsula for probably 30, 40 years. The king. He's the king in helping people in our schoolness and especially people that are sick. He wasn't Israel then. He had a catcher fly that night back home. He came to the hospital and told his wife to fly home because he had to be with me. I remember I saw his face. I saw a familiar face and a friend of mine. I broke down crying. I told Kheski, you do me one favor. Tell me the truth. What's going on? What is going on? Tell me the truth. Don't hide anything from me. He told me, I promise you I'm not. He told me I should speak to my kids. Tell them everything is fine. But meanwhile, in the middle of an operation the doctor came out. The doctor called my wife and told me that he doesn't think that she's gonna make through the operation. It's not possible because she has like so much bleeds in the brain, like somebody having a stroke, but like multiple strokes. The main injury was in the brain obviously. It was only a brain injury. She didn't even have a scratch on her face. It was the impact from the fall. And she wore a helmet. Exactly. That's what people want probably then I don't know. She wore a helmet and the helmet was still on her head and I opened, took it off and the helmet was still intact. It didn't even break. So it was more the impact. So it's not that we neglected or didn't wear a helmet. The helmet was on and I took it off. So after the operation, it was hours later. The doctor comes out and tells me the operation's over. Go see her. I said, I can't. Maybe I'll wait for tomorrow. He tells me, you probably won't have a chance tomorrow. Can you imagine what went through my mind then? I was like lost in a, that I'm not familiar. Yes, I have friends, but it's not my home base. And I had actually a very nice guy. He, I didn't even own. He slept with me. I put me to sleep that night. And I had some friends coming, Elias coming from Kyrgyzbobov. Actually a family relative of yours Benzin Sidul. Benzin Sidul. He's my Polish son-in-law. He's from, also the chave that I cannot set. And he was also stayed with me all night. So they put me to sleep. I mean, I couldn't sleep. It was a job to put you to sleep that night. Yes, that night, besides that, that I was busy also telling my kids that everything's okay when I knew it wasn't. And it was very hard for me to lie to them. And that's just going for a few minutes back home. My kids were in school. And I called my mother even before I was in the hospital, once I was going down. And she thought probably a bomb happened. She said, what happened? The terrorist attack? I said, no. She was screaming, I'm losing my daughter-in-law. She had that feeling. So my daughter, my wife went to school. My kids were in school. I mean, my mother, and she went to pick up my daughter. My two daughters was probably the hardest thing my mother told me was probably the hardest time of her life. Just telling them that her mother has an injury and she knew the condition. She couldn't tell them. And then my son came home from Yeshiva, from Kedem Shloimer, was like, and they went home. But the Motsov was not good, but they didn't know exactly. But they were smelling some things because they had a safe to heal them. I'm very involved in the organization. I was trying to remind myself of a few things because it's four years. It's called Bicellopitis, it's an orphanage home. So I used to go for years every like moment with Velville Goldstein. He's the fundraiser. And six days before the accident, I made a fundraising party in my house. For this... With your wife, of course. With her wife, and for these orphans that don't have a home. And Velville was then at the top of the shoe when he heard it, when my cousin told him. And Velville, somebody told me, so he put on his hat and he was screaming. I'm tears saying it. Said it can't be, it can't be. You don't know what he does for these organizations, for orphans. How could it be, a shem, it can't be. So... You wanna drink some water? No, it's fine. It seems like it's... It's bringing back very, very tough times. We were there for two weeks. After two weeks, after operations, I remember Shabbos we were there. I brought him, I had one Shabbos morning, a feeling that she woke up. He didn't even tell me, five o'clock in the morning, he ran to the room to see if she's up. To see if there's movement, we were singing Shabbos songs. Every time I thought I saw her hand move, I got so excited. After two weeks, the doctor told me there that it's time to leave. Because he's scared if she gets an infection they won't let her out. So, leave now. Let in New York, don't take care of the rest. So, through the organization, Isaac Lieder, it's called Vital One, did the transport from Israel to New York. From there she went right to Columbia Hospital. But let me say something very important. Right before I went to Israel, I made something that's called Travelers Insurance. It cost me $58 for me and $58 for my wife. My wife was laughing then, she says, why did you try, what's gonna happen? $58 from her and $58 for me, COVID, us. The hotel stay, the operation, the hospital, the Vital One getting us out of the flight back. My flames, she came back. We went on LL on a regular commercial flight because they said that the air pressure is not good on a medical flight. So, they took our 10 seats and three, four doctors came along and they covered that as well. I just wanna say, you pay so much on vacation, the importance of having Travelers Insurance, the doctor showed me in Israel. I gotta stop you one minute. Number one, I think this company could never have such insurance travel industry. It never has such a good plug like they're getting tonight. It was travel X. Whatever, and if the computer is gonna crash tomorrow from the new applications, it's your fault. It's number one. Maybe they give me commission. Number two, do you have a wild number of what this? How much it was? How much it cost? What did it cost them? So, a wild number. The doctor that did the operation told me. I'm sorry to be a little materialistic. That's fine. I mean, it's such an emotional speech. But it's very important for people to know because you have to make Travelers Insurance. And I learned, actually, it was, I didn't even know why I did it, but I went to a cell phone store. I think it's World of Communications on 13th Avenue and the guy, they told me, make Travelers Insurance. They do it. I said, okay, I'll do it. It was Travel X. So, the doctor that made the operation showed me the check even before I left. He had it ready from them. It was $90,000. His share. His share. They covered me before I left the whole share because I saw the bill afterwards was almost a million dollars that the insurance covered me that I paid $58 from my wife for. And they covered me a million dollars that I would probably have to do out of my pocket. If not that. Knowing you probably wanted a refund for the $58 too, right? I, on my part, I wanted a refund. Of course. You came out. But I can't because they paid me. The only time I ever flew business class was then on the way home because the Travelers Insurance paid for it. But I just want to say how important Travelers Insurance is. While I was in Israel, I had a lot of Rebis that I went to trying to be Mkhazik. I have my Uncle Khayyem Isles that he did for me. Nobody in the world did for me like my Uncle Khayyem Isles. From Rebis to every doctor meeting in New York, he was there. I have no words. My father's youngest brother. I mean, I can't even thank him. It's not even possible, but he has a lot of connections. I remember I was by Ibrahim Kamaia Schechter. They gave me a Kamaia. And so it was so weird because I'd never felt so sure. They never gave me this full brook that I had that feeling of sure. But I knew always that you have to have a minimum betochem. But I never felt really that she's going to come because they didn't really promise me. Tolsahana, where I spoke to every, I was like unbelievable how I, and I still didn't, I have to also say I had a lot of, just as we started the beginning now of the conversation, a lot of support. A lot of Rebis called me. I had one Rebis called me that I had no sheikhs with and I think it's very interesting to bring her up. His, he's the visionist of Rebis of Barapak. His name is Aravat Sadiq, the banker of Yosef Harge. He called me Friday morning. He called me Matchazalman. I said, I don't like spam calls, but who is this? I had no idea. He says, I said, are you the visionist of Rebis of Barapak? He said that the visionist there was my grandfather. I said, who are you? Who son are you? He said, that's what they call me. He's a big unif, he's a very selfless guy. He doesn't care about himself. So he tells me I had a son that had a major accident once and he was in a coma and I didn't give him hope. He says, Baruch Hashem, he's married and he has a child. Matchazalman don't give up. Since then, he didn't give up on calling me. He called me, his daughter called my daughter, his wife called my daughter. He calls my son. Now to Israel, he called me up a few days ago. How is he doing? He needs a number to how to reach him. Just how good, I just want to show good people out there. How I never had no connection to vision. It's at all how he was there for me every step of the way and the stachina that didn't leave me for a second. There was like so many good people out there that were there for me. Amazing. I want to talk a little bit about the subject because our viewers and our listeners, I'm sure they're all gonna be shocked as on the statement and mesmerized of what they're hearing over here. But I see you're calm, you're okay, you are talking about khalasol and you don't seem to have so many bitter and angry vibes coming out of you. I want to get a lesson. I want to teach our audience a little less, the big lesson in a minute in Betokhan. You look at a lot of people go through Tzutas, everybody's a big Tzuta. But I remember one thing that the cop told me in Israel. Moli, he called me Moli then he asked me my name. He says, I never had such a story here. You had a bigger chance to win the lottery than this should happen. And if you want to write a horror story, you cannot write a script so well. This is what he told me. So back to what you asked me, being strong in a minute with Betokhan, it's very hard because my youngest turned the next day two years old, so she doesn't remember her mother. My oldest was then 16 and a half. My Oshi, my boy was 13 and a half. My other one was 11, my daughter Khaila and my Yankee was six. So they were very, very young, these kids. And I knew that for them to grow up normal is to have a healthy father. So as much as a person has broken inside and shattered, basically, I mean, I had to wake up the next day for them. So inside maybe, yes, I never showed outside. I'm always with a smile. I'm always there having a good time and telling people a good word. I was, as much as I was broken inside, I was fighting with myself to be happy outside and I was broken. Yes, sometimes you don't wanna wake up in the morning you're thinking the whole world cave then, but how could you? And it's not possible. And it's very important that I have to say the family support that I had, then that I have is impossible. You can't go on without family. Like people say, friends are very well, but at the end of the day, there's nothing like family. My parents, my mother, cooking Chabasontov, my sisters, clothing, they have a clothing store, Flamingo baby, so I had no, it was easy for me to get clothing for them. They were there, they were there for me. Day one, day two, day three. My mother, my father, they moved in when I needed to. I soon get to a point even when they moved in at a time that I was helping Klali still, that was during COVID, I'll speak about it soon. And the family support, my parents and everything till today, there was no way, from here till there, that I could be able to go on a life without my parents or my siblings. And the same goes for my father-in-law and mother-in-law, that my father-in-law, I can say it, when the thing happened, he was screaming the Schwarz-Eppelfelmann-Eugenampe-Merci. Let's explain it. You could explain it in English. The black apple, the black apple of my eyes that was being taken away cause she was his closest child. Not one of his kids, he had a love to her that he didn't have to anybody. He loves every kid, but the love to her was such a connection that he couldn't live without her. And so that closeness, but the way that he and my Schriege Zazaag isn't. So my Schriege Chamege-Gold and my Schriege were there so much in every step of the way with also my brother-in-law and sister-in-laws. And Berkhashem, my father-in-law a few years before, my wife Leilain didn't have the schie to live in the house for too long that he built us, that it should make it easier. He didn't even know when he's building it that he made it to make it easier for me and his daughters' kids to be able to go on a live when he gave me the house to live in, but he built it for us with his whole heart. And with no, he's such a selfless guy. He doesn't need even a thank you. And I'm living in that house and bring up his eye in the click in the house that he built now. This is too much for me to handle, I'm sorry. So I wish we can like slice it, this interview to a few sessions. I know we don't have so much time. But I don't know what's gonna be, it's very hard. I actually, I had a break myself to come in. So I rather get it all for one interview because I cannot do this again. And soon we're gonna tell our audience very big news. At the end, I'll say yes. Some upcoming Simches in Mr. Miles's life. But we're not running so fast. Right, so you asked me about a minute, but talk to me. Yes, I don't know how you can handle it, how you can pick it up. So actually I heard this Lechina Rebbe, David Kowski, was also there for me. And it's there, it doesn't miss a Shabbos, he doesn't call me to say good Shabbos. So the first time he spoke to me about this, he told me, I want to tell you something and I want to tell you a story. Right after the war, the closing of the roof and the roof, a good will be through, was very into helping people and bringing them back to Yiddish guide. He was involved and another Rebbe did that, like he did after the war, unbelievable. You hear the stories. It's known, it's famous. It's famous. There was once a closing with a khusad that had a cousin that didn't believe. We can't blame them after the war. They love wives, children. And he used to keep telling his cousin, come back, come back. He was trying to give him a little bit. His cousin told him, one more time, you tell me that, lose my number. He says, you know what? No problem. Do me a favor. Come to my Rebbe, the closing of the roof and I'm never ever going to tell you anything again. So the Gaboum and him, they prepped up the closing of the roof. He's coming in the sky. He's down to believe. He's coming for the khusad of the family. Let's... No problem. Let's do a job on him. Let's do a job on him. So I listened to a lot of his tapes, the closing of his tapes. So not that I want to mimic him, but I heard the story. Like the Chinese Rebbe was telling it to me, like he said it. So he came in, he had his voice. I don't know if you ever heard his sheet and it's like unbelievable. He says, it abyeed. Okay, my hair. Zetstich leben mir. Sit down next to me. And he looked them in the eyes and he told them. I hear the host caches. I hear you have questions. I also have questions. They killed my wife and 11 children. This is what he told them. But I'm not looking for answers. You have questions. You're allowed to have questions, he told them. But you're looking for answers. I can't help you. The end of the story is irrelevant because I don't know if he did or didn't. But I heard the kaboom, then I was so upset. You had him here, you could have saved him. He says he has questions. He's right, but you're not allowed to look for answers. So the Chinese Rebbe told me that, you and your children are allowed to have questions. But you're not allowed to ever look for answers. And that still I live every day in those words of the closing of the truth. Not allowed to look for answers. Because if you look for answers, it doesn't help. Even though you have very big questions. I have a lot of questions. A mother, the prime of her life, she was 36 when the accident happened. She put everything in the children. And she didn't even have the schia of marrying Guofy for one child. I married off the child myself during these four years. And Burkha Shem, I have naches. I've already had an eunuch. And I gave aliyan after my grandfather. But she didn't even have a mother that did so much for the kids. How could you take away a mother and a prime? It's a question. A big one. You can't look for answers. So what keeps you, what keeps you? So basically motivated. There's a lot of things that keep me motivated. But now it's gonna be my wife's first yard site. And in two weeks, it's Zion, Kislev. Actually, it's really after 12 months. People told me that her yard site is four years ago because I was a labor decor, I only for four years and my kids were labored to get assignment. But now officially is the first yard site. And I learned for years, Khoi Vesalovis. I would say 15 years I'm learning Khoi Vesalovis. But I counted how much times I learned Khoi Vesalovis from when the start of the story I finished Khoi Vesalovis every month. So at the yard site, I'm going to making us see him the 48th time on Khoi Vesalovis. Because Khoi Vesalovis says, a person has to live for today and live lives to its fullest because this world is only a proposal, only a passageway for the next world. And if you learn it, it goes after a while but the beginning I was laughing, not laughing. You don't think what the words are but the second you get that issue, that problem, the Khoi Vesalovis was here to help you. Besides that, my wife, like a million Tehillim groups. And every time she got a text message to say Tehillim for somebody, she was the first one to say, I used to laugh from her, you know, so what do you mean? Maybe the person, if the person got to the person, it's going to be my fault. So that a minute that she had, I heard Tehillim's going to help. I remember I grabbed her phone right after the accent. I was crying at the amount of the Tehillim groups. I said, she's here for you every day. Please have a remind. Please, I ran, I scram into the Tehillim group but they heard it then. And I was like, so she also was very into the believing and I'm gonna put the token was very strong in my family. And not just that, I'll even explain how much that when she passed away, my son didn't even believe that she passed away. But when I was in Israel, I have a, I brought a note that my daughter wrote me. She's married now, but she was 16 and a half, 10. And I just made a copy that I should be able to read it, what Amin and Batokhin is about. And I'll read it and she praises us, but I think it's a very, very strong message. So it happened on December 12th. This was four days later. You see, it's dated, she wrote a name, Ciri Meisels and it's dated December 16, 2018. So she writes like this to me that she faxed it to Israel through my father. I feel as I'm living in a dream. No, a nightmare. I can't believe that this is happening to me. Me, plain ordinary Ciri. Who I think it. My first reaction was total numbness. I was crying, crying like I never cried before, but I didn't know where they're coming from. Huge torrents of gushing tears, seemingly never ending, breaking the news to my sister. That's Chai Allah. More tears, tears from broken hearts who can't come up. I wrap these tears around the fact that they're mother. My mother, my beautiful young Yiddish and mama is laying in a hospital bed. It's too much to bear, but Hashem in his endless kindness prepared comfort to soften the blow to help us along this painful journey. I find myself giving chisik to friends or family. I'm realizing that these huge words are coming from my amazing parents. My one and a million parents who in their unbelievable haste have given and given us and will eventually continue to give so very much. Supporting, encouraging, advising, and most of all strengthening us. And I'm drawing on that reservoir of koyach that my wonderful Elton has granted me and filled me with my parents have been so strong for me. It's time for me to be strong for them. She's sixteen and a half. I'm seeing Hashem's chesed of all around me. Chesed is a huge part of my family's lives and I'm seeing my brothers and sisters and Klaali Sule taking from there, taking their time to gather and say to him Beik Khaalis, Ben Shlech early, saying Shira Shirem. I know that my mother will be so happy and overwhelmed at this awesome show of Achtes. My family is being so strong. So believing my rock. I'm following, my father is my rock. I'm following his lead. I'm ready to be strong. So believing and be a rock for my family and friends by the ches of that never-ending chesed that my parents occupy themselves with the ches of all that Klaali Sule is doing bringing my mother a full and complete recovery better than ever if that is even possible and should bring my amazing close-knit family back together again. Maybe Zoyche, to imagine, see the coming of Nisim, the behind-the-view of my knee and remember, Aminna betochen ge'ila. Continue to darun, continue to pray and continue to believe. So how can you not have Aminna betochen when you see your daughter riding with this leather for Klaali Sule is something that I'm reading it now, I'm crying because it's not even possible to I always say like, I 80-year-old can ride this. I was gonna say much more. I don't think anyone should see this. It was something so painful but this gave the strength besides that she was 60 and a half and she was actually the mother to my kids for a few years because she was the oldest and going on that but the thing of Aminna is a very strong thing and let me just say something about Aminna if you let me and I will explain how I keep myself. So my daughter had a hotline as soon as it happened she opened up a hotline and she every night had set on tihilim once in a month or month and a half she brought her speaker, official szechte one of the rebels and she knows her father likes to speak so she wanted to make me feel good so she invited me a few times I remember the first time speaking first I want to thank all the girls for coming and I said something that I think is very, very, very important and I've used this line a long time because since then I've been going to be Makhazic other people going through this situation similar situations not everybody's situation is their biggest pain but I always say people always tell me the guy passed away he was 90 so I laugh sometimes are you crazy? it was somebody's father so he had more years than somebody that was younger he was more connected to him so even if his father was 90 it's still his father he's their most pain so I said like this how does a person look at life how does a Jew look at life how does a believer look at life and how does a non-believer look at life how do you say life how do you spell life in English how do you write life in the Torah what's the two middle letters from life if a non-believer says if all the time if I wouldn't have gone to Israel it wouldn't have happened if I would have done this how many ifs a person keeps on saying if how many ifs could I have said in my life if I wouldn't have done this if, if, if my kids and me never, ever, ever ever asked if never asked if because we know because in the Torah it says what's the two middle letters from Chaim Hashem, Hashem if you look into how a Yid looks at Chaim Ches Yigid and the two other words is mem ches is moyach thinking, that's if you have to look into the Chaim to find the Mabish I said it a few times I pitched it around a little bit more throughout the years but my kids and me never, ever asked for if, never and a person has to understand that even in the hardest times in their life you're never allowed to ask if and I could ask if, I could ask today if so many ifs that happened in the Holy Land she was never there I think sometimes when she told me that we should have done it a long time ago I'm happy we didn't because Hashem wanted her to have a bank there so then I'm happy that I had 17 years of life with her 17 is toiv I had toiv at 17 good years with her I'm sorry to be a little talking about myself I thought I'm a macho guy I can handle situations in here emotional stuff but tonight I'm cracking down I'll say because I'll say it another way how you can look say it's like Rishma you say Shemai what does a guy do when he holds his hand on his eyes why? so once an unbelievable editor he says because a guy says he closes his eyes even if it's dark what happens after you close your eyes you take it off you see the light so even if it's so hard you say you see the still light at the end of the tunnel we don't know what light is it's not possible to know what good is maybe this was good maybe it's not we look at it as it's not good but it probably was good I wish I did it it's probably good I think if you can read a letter interesting I wrote to my kids from Israel in Yiddish and this was I sent them to try to be the machazik in Yiddish in my wife's name so I could give it to you to take home you could read it but I wrote that you should have a khizik believe in Hashem and I made it from her name and I sent it to all my kids I'll tell you I don't think we can comprehend the way you and your family the story and I know you're up close and I'm not just saying it because you are here I'm saying it because I've watched you every day and we were involved some of the efforts the hillim and the initiations so many people were doing for your fear I didn't have the koyek to handle it I don't know how you handle it giving us some of the tricks some of the secrets to interrupt you I think that the Aibusta gives special koyek when you go through certain I wouldn't be able to handle it if the Aibusta would not have given me the extra koyek it's not even possible to handle if you ask me our program is called Let's Talk Tachles I think there isn't a bigger tachles for our viewers to watch this most emotional turn of events from the Bala Masa himself such strong words of and never giving up and never no matter how wet your pillow got I'm sure each and every single night of your life and your kids and I'm starting to figure out why your kids can handle it are performing this way it's a direct impact I knew right away that when I came back and I took them home alone but I knew that in order the kids to be and have a normal life siblings have to fight together laugh together they were laughing I was making them laugh even if it was hard but I had to bring them home together I had a lot of people telling me to split them up but one here, one was a baby she was two, one was there I'm not happening I'm the father, I'm taking a class I have to bring them up it almost seems like you went to a school to a college to train yourself for 15 years to 17 years maybe for 17 years you got training I did get training because my wife was my trainer that was my point she trained me how to be a kid because she was a mother that was only for kids and I only tried to I know that by the Khmer she used to always say when they used to have his big dirushes and used to speak about his big uncle every year he used to say holding onto the deposit and I'm holding it until after the machine comes I want to give it back to them as he gave it to me I feel the same way when I brought them up I was just holding the deposit and trying not to ruin it to be able to give it back to her the way that she wanted them to grow up there's a pussy she built her own home without knowing where we're going to go and people also have to understand a lot of things a lot of good things came out of it Achtis and Clalius I can't even thank all the people from our shield alone but a person has to know one thing in life and it's a very very important thing that I learned a person doesn't know what's going to happen not tomorrow the next second of his life my life changed in a second so you have to live life to its fullest that day you have to live to its fullest as you could and be happy in life I once heard a very interesting story and you could learn something from it a person was once walking down 14th avenue outside here and he saw a girl a blind girl walking with a stick she was blind she was never blind what does a person do a person passes what happens 30 seconds later he's in the pizza shop eating and remember a person has to know that this knocking of the stick when you pass is a shem knocking you on your back and telling you don't be so oblivious and so blind the knocking of the stick is me knocking on your back and waking you up and telling you this girl doesn't have two eyes can you imagine what she would have done with only having one eye you know that this girl could never have the opportunity to see her kids to see the light of life you can't just pass and not learn something from it a person makes a burqa in the morning can you imagine the burqa with a burqa over them can you imagine the burqa that she would make if she would have one eye the roofs everything would have jumped with the burqa over her a person can't be so oblivious and not see that when a shem sent something your way just wake up and say don't wake for tomorrow morning to say the burqa of a shem is a technical thing that you have to say in the morning say that second thank you for giving me two eyes a person has to thank a shem on that second what he has a person married children so this bumps in the road but what would my kids do to have their mother back for a second my little Yankee is very smart he's ten he tells me when she passed away he when I woke him up so let's go fast forward four years so much things happened we went to so many hospitals we did I can't say I can say I did and we did everything in the world to try to save Turkey's life she went to every home she had the best doctors she had a doctor in Colombia that we got from Rufua an unbelievable organization that they helped me therapy Rufua got a huge doctor on brain that he even operated on her I had to be an organization for TBI issues maybe the only good thing was I got very connected to Dr. Kamali he's the biggest in brain injury and I've since then sent him a lot of patients my connections with the hospitals are things that I do I saved some people's lives I think one day you should become a brain surgeon I probably could because I probably know more than them at this point I read a lot on it and all these things but I could say that we, me the golds, the misals did everything in the world there wasn't a Shabbos I'm talking till COVID a night that oh she didn't have a nurse sleeping with her or that my father wasn't there for Shabbos my brother wasn't there for Shabbos there wasn't a time Shabbos was harder for me to go so I had to be home with my kids so I had to give them just a home atmosphere but my kids went a few times a week it was hard but they wanted to see their mother and she went from Columbia to Queens Nassau to every Hamilton Park to Kessler Institute you name it, we went with her and we didn't stop and the last 80 days of her life she got the Nabuch Affections and she was actually my mother in this hospital and I'm very evolved there I'm like a liaison there and I'm very connected with the doctors and the nurses and they couldn't actually, it was painful for them to see my wife because I'm so close to them happen but it's very interesting how Hashemf does and runs his world there wasn't a time that I wasn't there there wasn't a time that my family wasn't there the night that she went back to the home to which home Hamilton Park, so she was in the hospital she was going back and forth, so there she was for 80 days she had blood clots and blood trends and issues and I got a phone call 2.13 in the morning Mr. Meisels I saw the number of my ideas saw that it was not good because they wouldn't call me just in the middle of the night and I actually get scared when I still see a number 2.13 Mr. Meisels, yes that's me your wife passed away an hour ago and nobody was there and as much as we were there my wife was very into not hurting the family I always feel that she didn't want us to see her pass away so nobody was there when she passed away and it's very interesting how Hashemf who was there in the world at that point I called my very good friend Dovid Halbushdan my very good friend Dovid Halbushdan he was the brother of the son and he came right over to my house the Saccina Deba was right over he was there like 15 minutes later because I didn't know how to handle with my kids my father-in-law was in Florida then for a few days everything came down crashing everything came down crashing and my Yankee Now he's 10, so he's gonna be 11 and what's coming on? So I told him and he started crying. It's a Tati That's few more things I had to talk to her. Why couldn't she come home? It's I just hear that things in his ears. I Wanted to say it interesting that I Wanted to say that I'm in the Patocha my kids had my son or she's 18 now. He learns in Israel I found a text message that he sent to my wife's telephone On October 27 2021 And he writes like this Was before not only for short while before she passed away and he writes like this. Hi, mommy It's been two years and seven and a half months that you're in a coma and I don't know why but I have a very good feeling That he she has almost hair And I can't wait to hear your voice again And play and eat your delicious food, mommy I I read every time I read this I cry because I can't see my kids pain I can't wait for that kiss and hug I love you so so much Sincerely your beloved oldest son ushi That looks like you Crying now. I know you can do it You're still coming home healthy and wealthy and happy This is my ushi You still believe but I even didn't believe that anymore It's funny. That's what she passed away Well, she woke up in the morning. I didn't let anybody wake anybody up. So I was waiting for Them to wake up themselves And oh, she wakes up and he hears commotion downstairs and he asked me tati was titzku It's not very close to him because he's my oldest son. So So I told him It's an issue It says what says It's not good. He said mommy's in a better place He says what are you talking about? He said mommy is in a better place. He said it can't be go check if she's still alive She wasn't alive and he knew she wasn't alive But he had such a minute betokhan that she's coming home Even if he knew deep down how bad the matzo is He told me tati go check because it's not true. It can't be just showing the minute betokhan what these kids have Is something it didn't come from thin air. I can tell you that something that you could learn from And we have to learn from and and it's something that you have to go out in life I think um, our audience will start booking you for If we think there was a guy that told us a lot of a minute betokhan in the last past few years It's it's Buckle up a lot here to buckle up And I think so you see I I also cry and break down, but when do I cry? When I see my kids cry That's when I cry. I'm very strong for myself But I could not see my kids cry and I read that because my I could imagine how he wrote it And he was crying probably when he did it and that's a That was going to be a Four years for when that happened. No, I you want to really highlight again that in about two weeks So before I before you you highlight it. Let me say something No, I'm staying first that before in about two weeks would be the youth out of you. I first you decide Chris you talk and because we're actually the year is over already, but it was a leap year Right, maybe you So it's going to be a You we're about to break news to the audience Which some of them may know with some don't Okay, so you want to say something before we cannot conclude Let's talk Tachles with with side with a sad thing So we have to it has to be meaningful and it's so it is so deep down at correct and I'll also say and also I'm sorry. It's going to take me so much time to process Of course the same thing to the audience to process what we heard tonight that the most devastating event happened to a person and to a family And although they are Hard broken to an unimaginable degree They are still going on. They are still strong. I see you kids. I know them and I can vouch and say loud and clear that they are Healthy, they are well They are smiling. They they are kind of how A book should be beautiful grandchild. I said I once went to a wife's scene and I said I said There's three partners in our person A father a mad a mother and the I wish that you took away the mother You have two thirds. You better take care. That's why I told to Tashem and he's listening and he's listening And I can see it from a day to day thing So that's what I once said by my wife's scene, but I want to just say one thing On a ending on a good note So The emotional obsessive is not was known as a person that used to give a lot of food and bring a lot of people to his home Once there was a guy that came in And he was a valdeleba. You say it. He was a robber robber He was not highway. He was more today. It's a highway robber And somebody once told him how are you letting him in the house? He said he's jewish. I don't care He's jewish. He could come and eat her one day the motion library was going on the way On his horse on buggy and he went into the Forest and guys jumped on him the robbers They wanted to kill him All of a sudden the guy comes running and he says hey Don't touch him. He's my rabbi He went over to the motion library says, you know who I am. He says no You remember the story that everybody wanted to throw me out when I came to your house and I didn't that's me I'm gonna let you go, but I need one favor. I want you to learn my son Teach him Toy real mitzvahs says no problem He brought a son and a much like learn with him alibis at night his father Went to him to see if he knows what he's learning. He didn't know anything His father whipped him beat him another day another day. He didn't know nothing. His father keeps beating him One day he tells the The father tells him I should live it's time to go My son is a lost case told the son do me a favor Escort the motion library out of the forest He says okay He asks us about how much lap turns around to him and he tells him I have the question to ask you Your father beat you so hard You never said a peep. How was it possible that he didn't even open up your mouth He didn't want to answer he says please tell me he said I'll tell you We're robbers they teach us That we shouldn't give out To the enemies our people or what's going on here our secrets So they say two three things we have to know that the torture won't be forever That the one I was hitting you Is because he was my father he means my own good And every time I get spanked Think that it's the last spank and soon it's gonna be good This is what he told him that much a life came home and he told us how see them Three things we have to learn from this thing We're on gulus. We're going through such pain Such suffering everybody has suffering so many stories so many issues I have a friend that just passed away. He was in the same home as my wife Michelle Mzissi Rosenblum I I the minute but took him from that family I learned of I remember once his father came over to me. He told me You know, he used to come every day to to dabble with them and he won't he always tells me, you know what? I can't come anymore. He's he's I don't see any reaction But you have to tell you something. I said what what happened? He says I'm starting to say the kindness shumash and it's out to beat the howie the we And he said I said colds mounts on the shumakirby as long as the shumas and a person's body I'm more than an ill of an ache. I have to say thanks for what I am He says I'm coming back tomorrow because he's still alive Because as long as a person is alive no matter how he's alive You still have to go with thank the shem. So much a life sauce of a says three things we have to learn That when somebody's in pain somebody's Somebody's in pain. It's the The torch is not going to be forever number two That you're going through something you should know it's from your father in heaven and it means your own good And number three, this is the last smack before you think with this introduction So and so a few months ago ibar khasham got engaged To a very very wonderful girl that everybody knows her name is pessie brecher And actually before this podcast I told her i'm coming here. She said go ahead. I asked her permission And she is known to everybody what kind of soft person she is And I was looking for somebody You were looking I was looking you got I got a shem sent me somebody. I'm saying you got would be perfect for my kids She's the most warm person Lovable person she loves and I've heard such good things about her and I'm looking forward As I think sometimes that 30 sent her To be the mother of a kid that's something that she started because she's the perfect fit to be But I'm going to be getting married in mitzvim a week after the yard site because I promise my kids I promise especially my son ushi that's a cottage So you do everything for your kids that I would Not get married it out until after the yard site even if the year was up But I will I'll say I'm gonna wait until after the yard site for respect of my kids for the first yard site Wow I have more to say I cannot handle it and our audience will will need many tissue boxes to To watch this interview this podcast Really have no words. I have no words to thank you and thank ashem the aibishter for being so mysterious yet so amazing That you can conclude such emotional and painful Partcast that let's talk tachlis with big tachlis. No with the book. I'm getting married And when eventually the aibishter will have you should be Very easily building together with your wife by snap by soul And you and your kids should find a lot of comfort and a lot of semacher And we should always share semaches and And listen we don't want to get in the same besmatch. Yeah, that's no social We should we should see Doubbing in the same shul together that doesn't speak by dominant from that alone We should we should have see nachos from each other because I mean in a Thai audience should all Have only simchas and nachos. I think you have the koech to winch and I'm glad you You are part of our let's talk tachlis family And I want to wish you lots of luck and thank you so much for coming. Thank you