 No, other than the local bank that were poured out by the one from Mars, yeah, that's crazy. One of the banks just got poured out in the process. You know, what's that for you? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Are you surprised on that? Probably just wrong. Chair Owen, it's 1.30. Chair Owen, it's 1.30 and all the members that are going to be present are here. I'd like to call the March 27th 2023 Housing Authority regular meeting to order. Members of the public may view and listen to meeting as noted on the city's website and as noted on the agenda. As a matter of housekeeping, I'd like to remind commissioners to keep their microphones muted unless they are speaking. The City of Santa Rosa is committed to creating a safe and inclusive environment free from disruption. We will not tolerate any hateful speech or actions and we're well staffed to monitor that everyone is participating respectfully or they will be removed. If necessary, we will also immediately end the meeting. Clerk, please explain how public comments will be heard at today's meeting. At each agenda item after the item is presented, the chair will ask for housing authority commissioner comments. After the commissioner comments, the chair will open the item for public comment. The chair will first call in person public comments and then will request public comments from those participating via Zoom. For members of the public joining the meeting via Zoom, you will be participating as an attendee. Your microphone and camera will be muted. If you are calling in from a telephone and choose to speak during the public comments portion of today's agenda, for privacy concerns, the host will be renaming your viewable phone number to resident and the last four digits of your phone number. 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If you provide a live public comment on an agenda item, but also submitted an email, your email public comment will not be read during the meeting. Additionally, there is one public comment period on today's agenda to speak on non-agenda matters, item six. This is the time when any person may address the housing authority on matters not listed on this agenda, but which are within the subject matter jurisdiction of the housing authority. And let me correct that. That's item five. Thank you. I'd now ask for the clerk for a roll call. Okay, we'll now do a roll call. We will start with Commissioner Newton. Present. Commissioner Smith. Here. Commissioner Rawhouser. Present. Commissioner LePenna. Here. I should say Vice Chair LePenna. Commissioner Downey is absent. Commissioner McWhorter is also absent. And Chair Owen. Present. Let the record reflect that all commissioners are present with the exception of Commissioner Downey and Commissioner McWhorter. Thank you. We're going to move to item three, which is statements of abstention. Are any commissioners abstaining from any items today? Hearing none, we'll move on to item four, which is normally study session. I want to note that there are no study session items onto the agenda today. We'll move on to item five, which is public comments on non-agenda items. I ask the clerk to explain how this process works. Now taking public comments on item five. We will begin with comments from those attending in-person in chambers. Once we have finished with in-person comments, we will hear comments for those participating via Zoom. If you wish to make comment via Zoom, please raise your hand. If you're dialing in via telephone, please dial star nine to raise your hand. So if you would go to the podium. Okay. Hello. Can I state your name for the record? If you so choose. County Housing Advocacy Group in existence for over 25 years. Today I wanted to speak with you after congratulating your new members. All of you that are here, thank you for your opportunities to volunteer and help this community in our times of need. You know, housing authority is usually brought into existence because you have a need for affordable housing. We have been in existence for close to 60 years knowing that we have always needed more affordable housing here in Santa Rosa. Today I bring forward to you an idea that could help you with your efforts to provide more affordable housing. First I'll start off with the fact that the United States Department of Veterans Affairs has released a press release stating that that agency wants to put forward lots of money to provide at least 38,000 housing slots for homeless veterans. That should be a priority in this community because we already have a program going forward with the Housing Urban Development Veterans Affairs Support of Housing vouchers. So now that I've brought that up to you, please look into it deeper on your time. My time is really limited here. I wanted to express to you something that was written about over a year ago for the North Bay Biz Magazine. It was called SAVES. Now I know you don't like to have more acronyms probably, but this is an important acronym for you to keep in mind. SAVES, Seniors and Veterans Extended Stay Suites. Utilizing the model that the commercial business people are using for new hotels, you could get small housing units up as extended stay suites for veterans and seniors following a model of extended stay suites America, holiday and extended stay suites, extended stay Marriott. They've been using this model for years to get their housing up. Just down the street here, the new AC hotel was built in less than two years using modular building up and running. Down the street, La Quinta on Santa Rosa Avenue, modular building up and running in two years. If you adopt a new model where you look at this as if you could get housing in, not just as a governmental public housing type project, but more based on a commercial model, you could get these things in there. As a matter of fact, local government agencies have been buying hotels and turning them into housing for those folks that need it. That happened to the travel lodge down here and up here the Astro Motel was used for a while for these homeless folks. So the model is already here. We just need new leadership. You're here now. Let's go for it and get these problems solved within my lifetime. I've been around as long as the House and Authority. I would hope that you could solve all these problems. Thank you. Any other comments from the chamber? Chair Owen, it appears we have no further public comments on this item in person. We'll move to any public comments on Zoom. Chair Owen, we have no hands raised for public comment. Moving on from there, do we have any e-mail public comments? We have no public or we have no e-mail comments on this item. Thank you very much. We're going to move on to item six, which is approval of minutes. Do we need the commissioners have any comments on the minutes? Council, we don't need to vote on this, do we? Just approve. So seeing no comments on this, we'll go ahead and approve the minutes for our last meeting on February 27th. Moving right along for chairperson or commissioner reports. Do we have any reports from any of the commissioners? Okay. We're cruising right through this agenda. I have nothing right now. Any committee reports. And we actually do not have any committees set up at this time. So we'll move on to item nine. Yes, I'm sorry. Go ahead. What kind of committees would we have if we were to be setting up? We've had some ad hoc committees in the past, but I'm not recalling what committees we've had. And unfortunately. Yes. Hi, I'm Kate Gould, my administrative services officer filling in for Megan Bassinger today. So there are meetings. I'm sorry. Committee meetings for when there's a notice of funding availability sometimes that's one. And then I in the past, there have been nominating committees when we're looking for a new chair and vice chair. Those are a couple of examples. Thank you, Kate. Yeah, I forgot about that. Normally the NOFA comes up. Funding availability. So we will move to item nine for executive director reports and committee items. And today we have a cake old fight for that. Thank you. Hi, everyone. Again, we have one item, which is a communication item that's on every month. It's the pending affordable housing project pipeline update. And if the memo is here and Nicole Delfi or in Tino is here if you have any questions. Do we need commissioners have any questions on the pipeline report? Please go ahead. Good afternoon, Jeremy Newton. Thanks for putting this together. Are there any projects on here that are sort of problem children that you want to highlight at all as things that need our attention? There's just a bunch on here. Thanks. Hi, good afternoon. Nicole Delfi or in Tino housing and community services manager for the housing trust. We don't have any problem developments on this list. The intent of this list is to let the housing authority know all of our pending projects, whether or not the housing authority has funds in them. Some of these projects just have density bonus agreements or housing allocation plan contracts. But these are, this is an informational list on what is pending in the community, either in construction, recently completed or in the pre-development pipeline. Sounds good. Thanks. Any other questions from commissioners? Yes, I have one on the section, the fully funded projects awaiting permits of financing closing. So what does this mean? What is holding up the financing to get the project going? Sure. So for affordable housing developments, they typically have to leverage multiple different funding sources in order to get enough money committed to get to construction. So a project may have to apply for the state on, for example, the multi-family housing program, which has applications out once a year. So they may be waiting for the application cycle or for a tax credit cycle to apply and then be awarded for funding. And the developers will have to go through this cycle for each different funding source, several only available once a year. Yeah, Jeff, I have one. Sure, go ahead. These are all new projects, an existing project. What about when we remodel or refurbish the units? Where is that shown? We have on page two the funded acquisition, preservation, and or rehabilitation. There are those two recent projects that were awarded rehabilitation funds in the last year. That's visual light senior apartments and Parkwood apartments that have been funded recently for rehabilitation. One question on financing. With everything happening at the state level with the budgets and in Washington, D.C., are there, are you forecasting any shortfall of funding to come as a result of the financial situation in the politics in D.C.? Yeah, we're definitely watching as that unfolds. At this point, we have not been made aware of any budgetary restraints that have been made to those programs that our developers seek out. Any other questions from commissioners? I do have one question. MHP from the state, what is the timing on that one that's going to go through? Because I see the projects that are waiting on financing, that's a big chunk of money that they would be looking at. May and then June? I would have to look at that. I believe the timeframe may have slipped this year for the state. It varies. It's typically in the spring. In the spring, we're going to be going a little bit later than anticipated with applications being due in May. I believe the state released a super-NOFA to encompass multiple funding sources this year. But we could come back with that information on the timing for MHP, if you'd like. Thank you. And then our NOFA would be going out when this year? So we typically offer it in the spring in order to make awards for the funding that is available in the following July 1st budget cycle. We anticipate coming with a study session, hopefully in the April Housing Authority meeting to discuss those funds and make that solicitation available. Thank you. I was just trying to line up federal to state to us and see how we can get these projects down at the bottom up and moving. Are there any other questions from commissioners? I just had one question. For clarification as to what does site work density bonus agreement only mean? Sure. So when it says density bonus agreement only, that means the Housing Authority has not committed loan funds to that project. As part of the entitlement process through the Planning and Economic Development Department, the project has applied for a density bonus, which is asking to build more sites, more units on site than the zoning agreement. So we are now making a concession for a certain number of affordable units being built in order to get that higher density. And site work is they are currently under construction. They are working on, you know, grading, paving, those underground utilities, those type of pre-development work before the structures start to go up. Some of these projects, if they go long on their construction period, are they fine or are they just given a grace period to complete with their construction? Sure. There's definitely factors that come up during construction that, for example, the rain in January that we had that will extend that period. If there's a project that has received a loan from the Housing Authority, there is established construction commencement and completion dates in the resolutions that have been made in the states. They let us know ahead of time and we go ahead and determine if a construction extension is warranted. And those are authorized by the Executive Director. I have one question. When all these projects that are under construction are completed, do we get some kind of checkbox from the state to say we've built what we told you we're going to build and, you know, they're going to have a checkbox and you read these things and it's all new to me so I thought I'd ask the question, you know, how does it work for us to look good for the state? Sure. So our completed projects, once the building permits are finaled, the Planning and Economic Development Department reports out on our RENA goals and achievements each year. So that's the Regional Housing Needs Assessment that we've built. So that is how we as a city demonstrate our success in meeting the goal number of units produced in each income category. And what's the process once these projects are complete for approving people to move in there because I know it's always they're getting subsidies, you know, how does that work? Are they, are we approving people, you know, pending the completion? Sure. So we have two compliance technicians in the Housing Trust Division who approve the tenant income certifications for move-ins for projects that have housing authority loans or density bonus agreements. Questions from commissioners? Thank you very much. Appreciate it. This is always an important part of our meetings that show where we are and how we're progressing. Yes, we'll move to public comment on this item. We're now taking public comments on item nine. We will begin with comments for those attending in person chambers once we've finished with in person comments. We'll hear comments for those participating via Zoom. If you wish to make comment via Zoom, please raise your hand. If you dial in via telephone, please dial star nine to raise your hand. One moment. One moment. So hello. You'll be able to state that you have three minutes to make your comment. Can you see the timer? OK, your time begins now. I appreciate that you've been able to have this information given to you. I want you to take into account that it's very important that you new commissioners understand some of the historical background to the development and the pipeline processes that has worked for many decades here. Over in Roseland, we have a lot of housing that's been subsidized by the city of Santa Rosa. And some people feel it's perhaps an overburden. It has come forward through a process that some feel is focused and steering specifically these types of projects into Roseland. You have one on your pipeline now on Burbank Avenue, known as Burbank Avenue Apartments in the past. Crossroads was built there on Belview Avenue, taking them over 13 years to get there. And Lantana was built out on what's now called South Dutton at Belview Avenue. And that took it about 13 years also. These projects aren't necessarily fast. But one of the problems that arises is sometimes developers in their enthusiasm to get a density bonus may do what car dealers do. It's called a bait and bait. It's let's get these folks, you being the customers in a way, to come forward and make your agreement and then down the road it will turn out different. One specific example which you should research goes back to what's called Belview Ranch on Herne Avenue at Stony Point. 30 years ago the southwest area plan was put forward by the city of Santa Rosa in order to get more housing in that area. They went forward with a developer by the name of Milton Tuxhorn and his company Benjamin Tuxhorn. They were going to put in 64 units of affordable rental housing at that project. Once they got their approvals they switched it up and said we can't build these apartments like we said we would so we're going to find something else. Instead of them doing it at their cost they put it off and they didn't even build them as apartments. They became what are called self-help ownership units. Now that's happened more than once. It happened down at Lantana. Those were supposed to be apartments also. Instead they're self-help affordable ownership units. But the housing authority was brought into existence because the number one thing we need in this community is affordable residential rental units. That's what's most needed especially for people at extremely low income, very low income, low income and then just the regular working folks. Keep it in mind. Thank you. Thank you. Do we have any other public comment? The chambers? Chair, it appears we have no further in-person public comments for this item. Thank you. Any comments on via zoom? Chair, I see no hands raised in zoom. Thank you. Do we have any e-mail comments? Chair, we have no e-mail public comments for this item. Thank you. We'll move on to item 10 which is consent items and note there are no consent items on today's agenda. Number 11 is report items and again there are no report items on this agenda. We'll now move to public hearing which is the adoption of public housing agency plans and refer that to Julie Garan and the program specialist. Thank you. It takes us just a moment to get the presentation set up on zoom. Good afternoon conditioners. My name is Julie Garan and I'm a program specialist with the city of Santa Rosa. Sorry, let me get a little closer. Good afternoon. My name is Julie Garan and I'm a program specialist with housing and community services. Today I'll be presenting on the annual public housing agency plan for fiscal year 2023-2024 and this item is a public hearing. The purpose of this housing authority item is two-fold. We will be appointing the resident advisory board composed of any and all tenant commissioners and we will be reviewing and improving the annual PHA plan which PHA stands for public housing agency. So the annual PHA plan is part of the larger PHA five-year plan. Today we are reviewing and approving the PHA annual plan for fiscal year 23-24. Both the annual PHA plan and the five-year plan are included in your agenda packet and both of the plans are HUD requirements for the administration of the housing choice voucher program. So the annual plan outlines the resources and strategies utilized to meet the housing choice voucher program goals and it also provides an update on progress that we have made towards meeting the goals outlined in the five-year PHA plan. The PHA annual plan is reviewed by a resident advisory board and the public and it is approved by the board of commissioners and submitted to HUD. It's submitted with any comments received as well. So a little bit about the annual plan for fiscal year 2023-24. The housing authorities project based voucher or PVV program leased up two additional sites in the past year. They leased up river city senior apartments which included 19 units of HUD-VASH project based vouchers and it was a total of 54 total, excuse me, affordable units. They also leased up the lindituna senior apartments which was 13 units of project-based vouchers and 26 total affordable units. Coming down on the pipeline we have two new construction projects anticipated for completion in the summer of 2023 including Caritas homes phase one and 35-75 phase one on the site of the former journey's end. So Caritas homes phase one has 30 project-based vouchers and 35-75 phase one has 17 project-based vouchers. And the housing authority continues to administer the emergency housing voucher program with a total of 131 vouchers. So the housing authority received an additional 10 HUD-VASH and 12 standard housing choice vouchers and we will continue to apply for additional voucher allocations, special programs and other resources as they are made available. We have also integrated technology to further improve the efficiency and accessibility for participants and owners including converting to an electronic wait list and multiple website improvements. The resident advisory board reviews the annual PHA plan and may provide comment. Again those comments are included in the PHA plan and may be submitted to HUD. Housing authorities like the Santa Rosa Housing Authority that do not own or operate public housing do not have formal resident councils and may establish their own resident advisory board policies. The Santa Rosa Housing Authority board of commissioners includes two tenant commissioners and a resolution 1129 dated January 22, 2001 establishes the two tenant commissioners as the resident advisory board serving concurrently as tenant commissioners and the resident advisory board. So finally it is recommended by the department of housing and community services that the housing authority by resolution appoint any and all housing authority commissioners who are also housing choice voucher program participants as the resident advisory board to represent the interests of those served by members of the community. In addition to that the commissioners adopted the annual public housing agency plan or PHA plan for fiscal year 2023-2024 as required by the United States Department of Housing and Urban Development HUD for local administration of the housing choice voucher program. Thank you. Thank you. Do we have any questions from commissioners? Go ahead. So we can probably talk some of these up to dumb questions from the new guy but so just bear with me for a second but going back to slide three where we kind of break down the different sources of funding there and the vouchers. In particular the VASH vouchers where I understand it that's a certain percentage of the housing choice vouchers can be allotted as a separate category from our regular housing choice vouchers and they're awarded on their own basis and so now with the addition of the 10 we're up to 429 total in addition to the number of VASH vouchers that we're going to need and use. So VASH vouchers are a separate category from our regular housing choice vouchers and we're up to 429 total. Yes. Okay so that's separate from the allotment of housing choice vouchers that come from HUD. Where do these come from and how do we determine the need? Sure they also come from HUD but the way that tenants are referred to our agency is different. The tenants work with those tenants they refer those potential tenants to us. Once they have a voucher they work with their housing technician and then they also have veterans affairs case worker. Okay so the VA sort of screens these veterans and determines that they're eligible for a VASH voucher and then that sort of comes out. Yes our office communicates regularly with the VA about potential tenants coming to get a new voucher to get a VASH voucher and then ongoing with existing clients as well. Okay great so the 19 that were listed there those are families that are ready to move in. Those vouchers are already designated. Yeah and project base are a local VA or the river city senior apartments. And they've been leased. Those are leased up. Awesome. Is it a local VA you work with or is it the national VA is the local office how does that? It's the local VA. Which one is that if you don't mind me asking where are they located? Good afternoon my name is Annette Anthony I too am a program specialist with the housing choice voucher program. We actually work in partnership with the VA who's out on brick way. Border Santa Rosa and Windsor jurisdiction. We work pretty closely as Kate previously explained the VA vets or determines the need for the veteran. And we work collectively to then get that vash or veteran leased up in an affordable unit. Okay great I appreciate that. No problem. And then I guess moving on from the vash vouchers the on that slide it said there were 19 you know vash vouchers I think the other one was 13 project base and the another number of affordable units. How are those funded? Where is that coming from? Yeah so essentially that slide and I can move back to it but this is speaking of two sites that we leased up in the past fiscal year and that includes river city apartments so 19 of those units were had vash units but the entire river city had a total of 54 total affordable units and one way to look at it is that we administered that site is actually in Petaluma so we were able to use those project based vouchers to leverage an additional those total 54 total affordable units so those units are now all affordable. And with linda tuna senior apartments 13 of those 26 units were project based affordable units we actually have loans linda tuna senior apartments so those 26 affordable units are actually under compliance through regulatory agreements with the Santa Rosa housing trust so we're able to say that we leverage those using project based vouchers and we also run compliance to ensure the affordability of those 26 units. That makes sense. A couple more if you don't mind. On the website improvements I think that's really important so how do you determine what improvements you need to make and do you have a way to gauge the success of those. I assume that the customer for this is the user the person in need of the affordable housing do they provide any feedback on the functionality of like things like that with the system and then you incorporate that in I'm just curious on how you go about determining what improvements you need to make. Thank you yes so our users of the website can include potential program participants current participants landlords affordable housing developers and such so with all of those different audiences we want to make sure that it's all understandable I am not aware that we have like an active feedback program but we certainly have a way to contact us on the page it says contact us and you can email or call our department and we would take that feedback and then make any improvements that that person suggested that we determined were appropriate. I appreciate it yeah I've done sort of IT fix in the past and I just want to make sure that it's sort of directed in the right way there's a lot of times what you think is you know the something that needs to be fixed and maybe it's not important to the user but I guess just something to keep an eye on in terms of what are the metrics for success does it mean that you have either good feedback or more people visiting the site and interacting with the site and it seems like a lot of these people may may not have the access that you know that that we take for granted so I would assume that that's part taking into consideration as well that's all I got I appreciate you bearing with me on that and then again thanks again for all the info. Any other questions from commissioners? I have just one more of a general one on vouchers I remember last fall City Councilman Schweldheim and Supervisor Corsi had written a column in Press Democrat on trying to get landlords to accept Section 8 vouchers and for affordable housing there's probably no problem but for non affordable housing you know do we worry about that in our group or is that something separate? So I believe and Sue helped me out here that the city passed a law saying it was illegal to discriminate in housing based on voucher status so if you could help me out a little bit correct so the landlord cannot discriminate on an applicant based on the source of their income does that answer the question or the column was that you know private landlords just didn't want to accept it you know and they had this demand so you get a whole bunch and you can't prove those things if anybody's ever gone for housing you never know why you didn't get it and everything so that was the only reason did it fall under our group or is that something out of our area? Right it is very difficult to enforce given that a landlord will usually be able to come up with some other basis for their choice of a tenant so you are correct in that and I don't have a good solution. Just for anybody that might be listening so the city does contract with legal aid for assistance to income qualifying tenants if they wanted to do that. It's just a follow up question on that can you discuss the outreach that you do to landlords to explain that you know one of the benefits for taking a voucher is that you have a definite amount of correct me if I do the math wrong that if you've got say a unit that's renting for a thousand to keep the math simple and the tenants paying 30% of that they will get that $700 check on the first every single month and then they wait for the balance of the 30% so from a landlord standpoint the cash flow is actually more assured on a timely basis what other outreach does to landlords to explain how the process works. Thank you yes and so just to follow up on what you were saying so project-based units help affordable housing developments like the one up on the screen go forward because it is a verified source of monthly income it helps the projects pencil so I am not prepared at this moment to talk about other outreach and I apologize I'm going to need to go back to our staff and I'd be happy to answer any questions if you have any questions can you email to the board explaining that does the department have just a standard something you can email out that explains how it works so if somebody is curious you can send that out to explain how that works yes we can do that any questions from the commissioner commission if a landlord is currently accepting section 8 yes they do have the option but there are rules around that and so I'm going to ask one of you guys to come up so when can a landlord terminate a relationship with a tenant what's the timing of that sorry hello and then Anthony again with the city of Santa Rosa housing authority so section 8 participating family is no different than a regular tenant coming in too so as long as the tenant is treated by the lease they're good to go but there's no standard in other words to say okay here's a regular family and here's a section 8 family there's no clear delineation with respect to how they should be treated differently a tenant to tenant whether they're receiving subsidy or not and that's how it should be addressed and that's how we bring it across to our landlords as well the experience in a meeting I was recently in where the management team came in and made a statement that they wanted to get rid of all the section 8 voucher tenants in the complex and just across the board statement that they made well and whomever if it was yourself we as a housing authority would then refer and strongly encourage families to enact one of those legal and advocacy groups that being legal aid CRLA fair housing one of those bodies because as you can imagine the role of the housing authority is not necessarily to play mediator between landlords we offer assistance to our families to save decent and affordable housing so as to stay focused on our point and what we need to accomplish and our goals we will defer and as Kate stated earlier we actually have a contract with legal aid to support our families on section 8 around that does that answer your question thank you any other questions from the commissioners so I have a few questions can you explain just the difference between the project based voucher and the housing choice voucher so a project based voucher is specific to that housing development and if the family were to the voucher stays with that development a housing choice voucher is usable everywhere the tenant can move where they would like to move the project based stays with the development the qualifying criteria is the same regardless income qualifying criteria that I would imagine so I don't know specifically but we're getting nodding heads from staff behind you yes it is and then the emergency voucher program how much longer is that going to be in play so HUD that was originally funded as part of the American Rescue Plan Act and HUD is going to fund it as long as the people on the program need it so we get 131 vouchers and once we have leased up that 131 if a person was to come off that list we can't reissue the voucher but everything that we have so far indicates that they're going to fund it for the life of that person to have that voucher so if a person drops off they're not because that's a one-time funding source is that correct it is it is and everything that we've heard from HUD indicates that they'll continue to fund it so we have people that are on the voucher program for decades and everything we know so far is that HUD will continue to fund the emergency housing vouchers as long as those people are on it but you're we cannot re we can't reissue the voucher once a person comes off so that through attrition the program will end I don't have any my standard question is what is the current wait list time for housing choice vouchers? 8 to 10 years and that's opened up last year's the last time was opened up when will it be opened up again? May we're going to open it in May of this year generally it's every other year I think we got a pandemic maybe slowed that a little bit but it is in a month opening in May thank you I don't have any other questions we do have a resolution that's going to need to be approved can I get a motion on the resolution or any question on the resolution? before we do that we need to open it up for public comment thank you so we are now taking public comments on item 12 we're attending in person in chambers once we finish with in person comments we'll hear comments from those participating via zoom if you wish to make comment via zoom please raise your hand if you're dialing via telephone please dial star 9 to raise your hand hello you may state your name for the record if you so choose you'll have 3 minutes to make a comment you can see the timer wanted to thank you all especially the staff and you volunteers on the commission for your hard work on these efforts and for your good questions today that are helpful to understand where we are now and what the future may hold one of the things that's important as we move forward to try to house all of the people who are under housed in Santa Rosa is that we utilize some new approaches because we haven't solved many of the problems over the last many decades with you being here now we are in a sense a new body you're moving forward you can be the ones that solve some of these problems that have seemed intractable one of the questions I'd like to have answered before we leave today is how many more HUD VASH vouchers are open and available for veterans the reason I ask is because three and a half years ago I brought a homeless veteran into the program we got him fully qualified we found a place here on college avenue what was called the college avenue guest house when he went to move in a specialist from the city of Santa Rosa went there and measured the windows and found that one window was one inch too narrow and kept him from renting that unit in turn after that occurred the city of Santa Rosa then went forward and in a sense red tagged that building and pushed the other residents out the building owned by a veteran was then sold and no veterans have been able to live in that building and that man named Doug is still homeless without a voucher talked to Kim Valadez recently at vet connect as I do often and said hey how do we help this guy he's been out there in this weather what can we do is if you don't accept a project based voucher you may be stuck those people down there in Petaluma river city those 19 there there those vouchers stay there we have to find vouchers for people here in Santa Rosa who are homeless at risk of homelessness under housed these types of things I'm very grateful that I've met the new program specialist Annette Anthony new to me at least the new team that you have here that's moving forward now I believe if you'll work with the federal government especially because the veterans affairs department released that notice that they want to keep helping and they want 38,000 homeless veterans to be housed in this fiscal year that we could find a way to get our homeless veterans here in Santa Rosa up off the streets whatever under habilitated structures there in hopefully you'll work with the veterans groups also you've got vet connect you've got Vietnam veterans of America you've got am vets disabled American veterans a lot of people want to help you please let's all work together thank you do we have any more public comment? chair we have no further in person public comments on this item we have people on zoom chair oan I see no hands raised at this time in zoom and then last is do we have any email comments on this item chair oan we have no e-mail public comments for this item okay thank you we would close the public hearing select to move to close the public hearing and then there's a resolution to in front of us on this item I see there's anybody who wants to move on the resolution or have comment on the resolution we have a second I'll second the nomination thank you we call for a vote okay we'll go ahead and vote on this resolution we will start with vice chair LaPenna aye then commissioner rawhouser aye and then commissioner smith aye and commissioner newton aye and chair oan aye okay let the record reflect that that passes with five five ayes and no nays with commissioner downey and commissioner mcwarder absent thank you very much we'll move on to item 13 which is a german of the meeting thank you very much for everybody for being here in your efforts for more affordable housing in santa rosa appreciate it thank you