 I don't know if it's up anymore, but the name of that episode is called Len Wind, W-I-N-D. So, check it out. Len Wind, one of your most embarrassing stories. Yes. So, good luck. Hopefully it's still up there. It starts to the day. Len Wind. Okay. Which podcast is that on? You know, I can't remember the name of it, but the host was a gentleman by the name of James Kennison, who was telling, you know, he was one of the just people to tell stories. So I told this really embarrassing story, which was actually, it's a very beautiful story about my son being born, and I ruin it by adding some embellishments to it, which actually did have a truth. The true embellishments. So they're not really embellishments, they're just, they're garnishings, I guess. Exactly. It actually is a very notorious story in my family, and my son actually ended up telling it to his girlfriend's parents, and I'm like, why did you tell this story to your girlfriend's parents? What do they think of me? But anyway, look it up, Len Wind, it's fine. I can only imagine, based on that title. You don't even. I'm going to go look for it, actually, and see if it's still there. All right. Well, Michael, since the last time we had you on, we've kind of changed some of our setup. So we started our video a little earlier, so that it gets some ramp-up time for DiamondClub.tv to pick it up. And also, hopefully, I don't forget to push it to AlphaGeekMedia. So we'll start here in a minute with the show proper. DiamondClub.tv? I didn't even know about that. Yeah, DiamondClub.tv is crazy amazing. It's folks in the night attack audience, plus DTNS, and a bunch of frog pants, audience are in there now as well, and they make a community website to show video streams of things that they enjoy. I'm honored to be one of them. They enjoy you. Well, they enjoy you. But there's people in the community doing their own live streams and podcasts, and it's fantastic. All right. Have a good show. All right. Thanks, Jay. Bye. See you later. Here we go. This is a public DTNS announcement. A message in English will follow. This is the Daily Tech News for Friday, February 26, 2016. I'm Tom Merritt. Joining me today, Michael Wolff, host of The Smart Home Show and The Smart Kitchen Show podcasts, and a frequent guest on the show. Good to have you back, Michael. Hey, thanks, Tom. Thanks for having me. Absolutely. We're going to talk a little bit about what Amazon is doing to position themselves to conquer the Smart Home universe in a while. Pretty interesting stuff. And definitely, if you're someone who's looking for a job, you might want to look at Amazon Echo Department, right? There's a lot of them. Yeah. Also joining us, as he does on Fridays, Mr. Len Peralta, the artist extraordinaire doing some art prove illustrating the most abstract concept we can draw at him. I've become sort of an entrepreneur, a very, very good at doing that kind of thing. Yeah. Folks, if you don't know, like, Len just comes on here to draw because he enjoys it. Yeah. We love having him. So if you want to keep him coming back, go to LenPeraltaStore.com and pick up one of his pieces of art or maybe back him on Patreon. That'd be awesome. And he's got all kinds of other things that he's doing. You can help. Yeah. Do you need to take that? No, I don't. All right. Let's get into the headlines. Mark Zuckerberg spoke in Berlin Friday and live streamed the Q&A on Facebook. Properly enough, he announced that live streaming is coming to the Facebook Android app. The rollout to Android starts in the U.S. with other countries to follow. Live streaming is already available on Facebook's iOS app. Zuckerberg also announced that Facebook is extending its efforts to police hate speech to include hate speech against migrants. It's a top of the mind topic in Germany right now. And he noted that artificial intelligence might help deal with hate speech identification. So two very different kinds of announcements coming out is Zuckerberg's speech here. And Michael, he's kind of taken Europe by storm. He was the hit of Mobile World Congress at the Samsung announcement. And now he's captivating audiences in Berlin. He's barnstorming Europe. It's literally barnstorming. He was also named the most popular CEO, although Facebook is still the least trustworthy company according to a study that came out today. That's quite a contrast. Yeah. It just goes to show you don't have to like what someone does to like them, I guess. I don't know. In an interview with NPR's Morning Edition, San Bernardino Sheriff Jared Bergwand said there's a good chance that there's nothing of value on the iPhone 5C for which the FBI would like Apple's help cracking the password. Sheriff Bergwand said, quote, what we are hoping might be on the phone would be potential contacts that we would obviously want to talk to. He said the high value of that information makes it still worth pursuing in case they could find it. But I think that is one element that people are using in considering their own opinions on this situation. Michael, are we actually going to find anything? What's on the phone? Why don't they just give it to John McAfee and let him hack? He asked for it, right? Yeah. I want to see John McAfee debate Donald Trump on this issue, because they're pretty much on opposite ends of the spectrum. Yeah. In so many ways, maybe not always. And yeah, we talked about that last Friday when he announced that. It's not... He says he's going to use social engineering and it's not apparent, shall we say, to be charitable how that would work. 9 to 5 Max Mark Gurman has sources, in fact his sources are the stuff of legend and now the little muses are whispering in Mark's ear that Apple will not only release a 4-inch iPhone, but we'll call it the iPhone SE. You may have heard of Rumor to be called the 5SE, but apparently not. Just iPhone SE for special edition. It'll replace the 5S and sell for the same price. Yesterday, Gurman said his sources, say the next iPad will be 9.7 inches, but be called an iPad Pro. Not an iPad Air would have the A9X processor just like the Pro. Rumor has been that Apple will have an event on March 15th. If that turns out to be true, we'll find out for sure on March 15th. Do you like these kind of Apple Rumors? Mark Gurman's got a good track record with him. He does. Are they dumping the number system? So are they just going towards, you know, SE and another type of? I think that would make sense for the budget phone, right? You don't want to have it out there with an old number. You want to be able to do minor incremental updates without having to have a whole new model number announcement. It's kind of what they did with the iPod at one point. So I guess that would make sense. I wonder if they would do it with the flagship, I don't know. I'm waiting for the iPhone Nano. Are we going to get that soon? I thought we were going to get that a few years ago. Yeah. Mercedes-Benz is replacing some robots with humans on its S-Class assembly line at its Sindelfingen factory. And Gadget reports ahead of production, Marcus Schafer said, quote, robots can't deal with the degree of individualization and the many variants that we have today. In other words, Mercedes has too much customization and it's too hard to program the robots to deal with them. It's an isolated data point, though, the International Federation of Robotics notes the number of industrial robots rose 43% from 2013 to 2014. Thanks to Albatweila Condulce for submitting this on the subreddit. But one victory for the humans. I'm just waiting for the robots to go on strike. Well, they might in the face of this. They're losing jobs after all. Who's speaking for the robots? I guess this federation is. Yeah. The International Federation of Robotics. While Microsoft just obtained cross-platform development company, Xamarin, we talked about that a couple of days ago. It announced Thursday that it is shutting down. It's a Storia toolkit for bringing Android apps to Windows 10. Marine Joe fully notes that many experts expect Microsoft to shift focus to Xamarin, which could let developers target multiple operating systems, not just Windows. So it's a better overall tool than having to pick one starting point with one other ending point in mind. However, for now, Microsoft Windows bridge for iOS will be the only way to bring mobile code to Windows 10 devices. So I think Microsoft has now found a smoother way to get to that development system they'd like, which is, hey, everybody right once here and you can still publish to the Windows store. They haven't finished their bridge that will bring Win32 apps to the Windows 10 store in an elegant fashion yet. Fashion Fund, a fashion design competition TV show from Condonast, starring Vogue editor-in-chief Anna and Diane von Furstenberg started on Hulu in 2011. Then it moved to Ovation TV for Season 2 in 2014 after a little bit of a break and Season 3 premiered Thursday on Amazon. Now here's the interesting part, Mike. It's not on Amazon Prime. Well, you can get it on Amazon Prime, but you don't need Amazon Prime to get it. Shows are available for everyone once a week for free, but they're ad supported. So whether you're watching it on Prime or not, so their first venture into non-Amazon Prime video is reality TV, looks like. Yeah, and it's a little bit confusing because I went to my Amazon Prime app and I could find the show, but it plays ads. So that may be causing some people some consternation at some point when they think, well, wait a minute, I'm paying for this service and I'm getting ads, but it's because it's available with ads everywhere, whether you're in Amazon Prime or not. And the spokes were to make it clear that they're not going to add ads to the other Amazon Prime. Yeah, I know. But very interesting to see Amazon notice that reality shows are Prime advertising supported vehicles. Reality shows traditionally have not done well in a Netflix-like environment or an Amazon Prime-like environment. So I wonder if this is the way around that. I mean, it ties in with the shopping, fashion, clothing, etc. Makes sense. Samsung just won a court victory in a patent case against Apple. Oh, which one? This Apple Samsung patent case is the one about quick links. Those are the ones where like a phone number becomes tappable. Slide to unlock an auto-correct. U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit in Washington, D.C. overturned a May 2014 verdict of a federal court in San Jose that had ordered Samsung to pay Apple 119.6 million. The three-judge appeals panel unanimously found that Samsung did not violate the quick links patent and that the other two patents were invalid. In fact, the panel also found Apple violated one of Samsung's patents. So the patent wars continue. And I'm sure Apple will appeal this decision. China's WeChat pay announced support for overseas vendors. That means users continue to add money in RMB, Chinese currency, but can spend it in nine different foreign currencies including the U.S., Hong Kong, New Zealand, Australia, and Canadian dollars, British pounds, Japanese yen, and Korean won. Conversion rates will be set by banking partners and WeChat pay will cover the outgoing transfers. The question is, Michael, would businesses in these countries, U.K., Hong Kong, New Zealand, etc., be willing to set up an account with WeChat pay? Is it worth their while? That's a great question. How much business are they doing with folks from those native markets? Is it going to mainly be for tourist dollars? Great question. It seems like tourist areas, like certain places in Australia and the U.S., that are heavily visited, probably those vendors are going to use it. Certainly Hong Kong is going to get a lot of traffic and become useful. And the other interesting thing about this is if you are a vendor who sets this up and someone uses it to buy something from you while they're in that country, they can use WeChat pay to buy things online from you. So it could convert tourists into online customers. Conceivably. Steven Petro wrote an article for USA Today describing how someone on his flight from Dallas to Raleigh admitted to hacking his e-mail during the flight. The man spoke to him after they had de-planed at the gate pointing out the go-go in-flight wireless was an open Wi-Fi access point. If you don't use VPN your unencrypted traffic is open for anybody to see. Hacker made a point about this sort of privacy violation being why the Apple encryption case is important and because he had been looking at the e-mails knew that Steven Petro was a journalist who was writing about the Apple encryption fight. Thanks to the Bald 1.5 for posting this on our subreddit. Something about, I'm not saying Steven Petro made this story up, it's odd to me. Yeah, it's a little bit weird. I love the last part where the hacker made a point about this and then he walked away. I wouldn't know whether to hug him or punch him. How awkward that would be, exactly. Yeah. It isn't the kind of thing that someone who would be sniffing packets on a plane would be likely to do. I wouldn't think go up to a journalist and say, hey, I was hacking your e-mails. I wonder, though, if it's someone who firmly believes that Apple is in the right, easily could just see over the guy's shoulder and see that he's writing e-mails, right? And then he could say this because it's plausible. Yeah, it's a little suspicious, but we'll give him the benefit of it out on this one. Yeah, no, I believe it happened and maybe Steven is presenting it in somewhat dramatic fashion because it makes for good reading. I'm not suggesting it didn't happen. I'm wondering if the guy really hacked him that way. I don't know. It's something odd about it. Yeah, finally, 19 of the world's 40 recorded selfie-linked deaths have happened in India, according to Priceonomics, and that is true. There have been 40 selfie-related deaths. The AP reports that the city of Mumbai, India has declared 16 no selfie zones in the city, a lot of them along the coast where there's no railings. It's really a no-access ban since anyone who enters a prohibited zone will be fined the 1200 rupees, whether they take a photo or not, is in reaction to people having accidents and in fact being killed trying to take pictures of themselves. Do you have a selfie stick? I do not. I don't know if it was a joke. I saw the story about a selfie stick for Max today. Was that a joke for your laptop? Yeah, you had to put your laptop on. That's gotta be a joke, right? Well, you never know. How would that work? You need some big biceps. It'd be hard on a wall. Yeah, you'd also have that too. Anyway, yeah. Folks, be careful. That's all. Thanks to our folks who submit stories that are subreddit. DailyTechNewShow.reddit.com. We absolutely appreciate it. It helps us put together the lineup better every day. Thanks to you. Keep it up. Get in there and submit and vote. That is a look at the headlines. So, Michael pointed out a geek wire story talking about an event Amazon had where they invite it was an invite only recruiting event about 300 people showed up some developers, some people looking for jobs but they streamed it on Twitch. So this was definitely meant to reach more than just the 300 people invited. They had talks from Senior Principal Engineer Frederick Derremot, Alexa Smart Home Director Charlie Kindle and Senior Manager Amir Alsani among the slides that were shown on the geek wire article they talked about their strategy of putting the customer first, invent and be patient. I think that's one of the interesting things about this approach, Michael, is that Amazon Echo has come in with very limited features but is still taken off and becoming very popular. Yeah, I think that Amazon's realized they've caught lightning in a bottle to a certain degree. One of the things in the article that was really interesting to me is they've noticed that there's something around 570 job listings for Echo 241 job listings for Alexa. That's a massive investment and if you look at the broader scope they've announced the Alexa fund for $100 million so they're investing in startups that will integrate Alexa. They're going big with this. Yeah, and when I first got the Amazon Echo I installed it in the living room and I moved it into the kitchen because I was using it mostly for shopping lists and it was most convenient to have it in there and it was nice to have it for news and weather and stuff when I'm making coffee in the morning or cooking at night. But over time and without really realizing it it has become my smart home hub de facto and I don't have a big smart home installation but I can turn my lights on and off with it the life ex bulbs that I have and I can adjust my Nest thermometer I can connect it to that and now I've just been voluntarily started to think well maybe I should get another one either put in the living room or the bedroom. Well it's so interesting to contrast what Amazon has done with Echo with Apple and Google who have made big bets on smart home and they're down there in the weeds wrestling with protocol stacks and Apple has HomeKit and Google has Wee, Brillo Amazon said well why don't we create this Echo device it'll essentially be a Trojan horse and we'll integrate with everyone smart home devices essentially a wedge strategy kind of above the stack of what Google and Apple are doing I think it's a brilliant strategy they didn't have to create a standard they just created a device that a lot of people like they thought at first it was a wireless speaker and then it has natural voice processing natural language processing with Alexa which is really kind of the bigger deal I think that Echo is really a Trojan horse to get Alexa in the home now we're seeing Alexa go into all sorts of different devices yeah when I I swapped out my Wi-Fi network and changed the SSID and when I went to reconnect the Echo I found that I had several Alexa devices in the house that I hadn't been thinking of as Alexa devices the fire TV stick, the fire TV you know like that's it is insidiously moving and the limitations are there I wish that I could actually speak to the app on my phone I wish that I could integrate a different shopping list not the default one that comes in the Amazon Echo app but those things are okay for now and I feel like they said in one of their slides it's still day one that they'll get there to addressing these sorts of friction points as they realize that they're friction points for the majority of their audience and it has felt like a stone being smoothed as they develop it yeah and what's interesting now is you're starting to see Alexa show up in third party devices, I mentioned Alexa fund that's seeding the market so you have companies that are creating products there's a company that makes a product called The Tribby which is a really kind of interesting kitchen speaker it sticks by manage on your kitchen refrigerator and it's an always listening device and that's integrated Alexa and they've got money from Amazon to actually develop the product I was talking to another company that's out pitching their smart home startup to Alexa yesterday to Amazon yesterday and talking to them about it so Amazon's really talking to a lot of companies trying to see the market with it and what's interesting to me is how much consumers are going to want always listening devices, if Alexa becomes pervasive it's an always listening device, that goes an always listening device is when you start to contrast that with the general consensus that we're getting more and more worried about privacy it's going to be interesting to see how the different consumer camps split out do you want this in your life and does it vary by demographics do older people get more nervous about privacy whereas younger people, sure let's have an always listening device in my home, I don't care and we are definitely going to rely more on the people who audit this sort of software and determine how it really works, it's one thing for the terms of service to say we're always listening but we're not recording, don't worry it's another thing to be certain that that's in fact the way the software is working and there's not some accidental recording it takes me back to the Google Wi-Fi scanning that was happening on the Google Street View cars where it was taking in a bunch of credentials of people's Wi-Fi access points, not because it wanted them but because they were there and so email headers and things that are unencrypted kind of goes back to that story the USA Today guy could be picked up what kinds of unforeseen issues like that couldn't always on microphone bring up it's really interesting I mean there's a couple bad actors like Samsung with their terms of service for their TV that made everyone nervous but stepping back looking at Amazon and what I've called their grand plans for world domination around smart home, it's even broader than Alexa and Echo, I don't know how much you guys have talked about Amazon Dash but just a couple weeks ago they just announced the first devices out there were, they're basically going to make anything in the home that's connected auto ordering so at some point you run out of food, you run out of detergent, you can automatically have it shipped to your house maybe at some point an Amazon drone because the product's going to know the product's going to know any more stuff yeah and I can't remember all the different ones that are partnered with them but I know there was, I think it was one of the water filter ones which is the genius one where it just automatically knows the filter is done and automatically reorders new filter yeah I mean some of them make sense, I mean some of them don't I mean I love the August Smurlock but the August Smurlock integration with the Amazon Dash, it tells you when you're out of batteries I think you'd know if you're out of batteries but what it tells you is that if it tells you before you're out of batteries and the batteries are ordered and arrive as the battery is dying yeah and I think it's a smart integration they'll probably say you know you have 20% left so it probably makes sense to a certain degree but some things like the filter just makes a ton of sense the pet one I wasn't sure that I would trust for some reason I think it was the dog food one right yeah if it could exactly feed your dog at some point does it actually does it order dog food or does it actually feed your dog does it put food into dispenser that's what we really need yeah if I could get that then maybe maybe if it works that way I'm in well yeah I see what Amazon is doing here and what I want to know is someone who covers this space closely and you see all of the fights over wireless protocols and internet of things connectivity and hub platforms and the push for standards is it possible that Amazon just kind of comes in through the back door and takes this space over I think that's the brilliance of their strategy they're staying above the fray you know you have the kind of old world thinking we're for technology giants is let's fight for the standards if you're Intel or Qualcomm you want to own the specification Google and Apple help to create these software development frameworks Amazon just said hey I'm going to create this really cool device and let it integrate with everything and the list of smart devices integrates with is really really pretty large at this point and then I'm going to layer my services and whether that's shopping whether or not I'm going to be kind of the natural voice language processing assistant for the home which I think ultimately becomes a really big deal if you kind of own the voice interface for the home think of all the different services you can layer into that so it's really pretty interesting it's the last mile to your brain in a way is that voice interface and my my only complaint are things that I don't want to use voice for you know they haven't quite made it so that I can just access Alexa no matter when right but again they've started to put pieces here and there where I can see that happening and and they're doing what's that a hundred million dollars in investment voice technology so they're trying to pour some money into making some new stuff that they can use as well yeah that's the Alexa fund where they're basically finding startups to say hey user technology will active basically as a corporate venture capitalist but you have to use our technology so yeah well folks if you want to keep up on all this kind of smart home stuff and smart kitchen stuff you got to check out the smart home show and the smart kitchen show are they at technology.fm technology.fm or your favorite podcast apps exactly yeah all right I pick the day comes from John who writes I know some of your fans myself included are aspiring to have 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I'm using one today it's a good mic I have heard other people recommend this mic too so there you go now you got two qualifications again it's the Audio Technica ATR 2100 send your pics to us folks feedback at dailytechnewshow.com we want to hear from you you can find more pics at dailytechnewshow.com all right several emails to get to before we're out of here Bob was hearing our discussion about the Samsung store Michael did you hear about the Samsung store in New York that is not going to sell anything in the store no but that sounds like something that totally sounds like something Samsung would do it's a showroom it's got a kitchen it's gonna have the ability to sell you food and drinks but not actually Samsung products although the Samsung products will be on display and they'll help you order them online if you really want to get them but hey for that kind of thing where Scott said I like the idea because I can get my hands on something before purchasing he says check out your local library everyone should already know to go there for things like 3D printing and other makerspace activities he says we are acting we are adding virtual reality to that mix as well many libraries do simple things like Google Cardboard programs some of us go farther the creation station in Broward County Florida has an Oculus Rift out on the floor what is your library if you want to try out the latest technology hey Tommy have you heard of beta the new store in San Francisco no I haven't what's that it's an IoT store they are pitching themselves as an IoT store a bunch of Nest people went out and started a retail store and it's the whole idea is it's like a showroom and what's intriguing is it's all IoT products including like hoverboards smart home for your car but it's like a showroom so if you're a startup you want to get into retail they are calling it retail as a service you can basically rent space from them what I like about it is just trying different devices you may not see or if you're a startup you want to try your product out see how people react to it you can do it that way and you don't have to invest in a whole retail infrastructure exactly you've got those kinds of things popping up you've got libraries there's a future for brick and mortar somewhere more folks have been reacting to Ron's request someone to explain to him what VR is good for and Kevin writes I'm an engineer at a nuclear power plant we have the smartest listeners in the world I said we're currently exploring using an Oculus or some other VR headset to help us plan work there are places in the plant where there is considerable amount of radiation it's not enough to cause long term damage to someone but it's enough that you wouldn't want to be there for long we try to keep the total amount of radiation exposure as low as reasonable so using a 3D model of the plant could limit the radiation exposure without limiting our ability to plan work etc and Chris says I've worked in the oil and gas community for 14 years both as a contractor on construction work and currently as a company operator I currently work on the north slope of Alaska where there's always a large push to minimize the size of equipment module footprints in the names of lessening environmental impact this often means from an operator standpoint we are at the mercy of piping layouts that look good on paper but when you actually have to work with the equipment it's near impossible to access I could see this tech being used to take ISO drawings with measurements and render them in a 3D environment that would allow operators and engineers to virtually walk down the mods before construction and make sure the scale and layout is going to work so both of these are similar which is basically saying make us a virtual model of something we need to walk around in but can't walk around in either because we don't want to build it yet or because it might be dangerous for just job training I think that's where the application is going to be really valuable Yeah and just being able to get hands on so to speak Yeah even military training I mean if you could put yourself in a virtual environment kind of get that shock and awe and finish up we had lots of great responses from teachers and others regarding yesterday's conversation about the Chicago public school system making computer science a requirement for high school graduation I hear a few samples Steve wrote as a technology teacher on the sides of the great divide with an English and theater bachelor's degree and a computer science masters I'm bilingual enough to understand the jargon and to translate effectively for the young mind there are very few who are interested in translating technology for others this makes it very difficult to find effective teachers who have a high enough degree of knowledge to challenge young learners to learn more about the subject so there's one problem even if you can get computer science people interested in teaching can they teach effectively Davey says I think the most important aspect of this kind of tech education is not any specific language but the experience of working on a project where each student leverages their own individual abilities to collaborate on building a piece of technology we heard from a couple of our alums that these classes were what prepared them most for college and beyond so again Davey saying if you've got a good computer science course that gives people things to work on it has value beyond just the practical application and finally Nate on the windy west beach of Salt Lake City writes I've been raising awareness in my community about an organization called Technology Education and Literacy in Schools or TEALS they pair a licensed high school teacher with a volunteer from the workforce to teach computer science classes TEALS is backed by Microsoft and its employees it has had success in the Seattle area and it's branching out to other schools around the country the application period for CS professionals and for schools for the 2016-2017 academic year is open now if listeners are interested in helping out you can find more information at tealsk12.org that's T-E-A-L-S-K one two dot org that's kind of the most interesting one of the bunch because it seems to address the challenge that Steve pointed out of you know just because you know computer science might not make you a great teacher but allows you to bring people together in a team and addresses Davey's point as well I love that, I love the kind of new approaches I mean I have a couple kids right in that time in that age group and there's not enough technology in their school their school system so I'm looking for new approaches yeah well and we had lots of people right in saying very similar things about you need to have the right teachers first you need to have them trained they need to know what they're talking about or you'll just make it worse people will learn to hate computer science because they have bad teachers so you do want to have good folks who know what they're talking about thank you Michael Wolf for joining us a pleasure as always twitter.com if you want to follow him on twitter of course the smart home show as he said technology.fm the smart home show .com or just look it up anything coming up in particular you want to tell folks about well I'm heading to south by southwest having an old smart home mixture there maybe we should connect there Tom and we're having our second annual smart kitchen summit I had an event last fall had like Wim Sonoma come the president of Wim Sonoma the president of Jordan the Krocba company came to speak so if you're looking at the future of technology in the kitchen check out smartkitchensummit.com as well smartkitchensummit.com Len Peralta what have you drawn for us today? what have I done I was kind of in a very kind of poster print sort of mood today sort of I like the idea of Amazon conquering the earth and 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are thank you so much we're in the US so we're doing what we can to promote the international perspectives one is of course day six of DTNS from Australia and the other is partnering up with Nate Langson of the UK's text message take it away Nate thanks Tom it almost goes without saying that VR kind of stole the mobile world congress show at Barcelona this year so I'm going to open the VR kimono and explain some of the lesser known ways in which VR headsets might have a place in our future as well as explore of course all the new stuff that we saw at MWC that's this Sunday on text message at a new easy to remember URL techpodcast.uk thank you Nate don't forget this Sunday we'll get another day six episode from Australia's Peter Wells we may get two more in March or we may get four more in March that's up to you if we hit the next milestone Peter will be doing one every week stay tuned for a medical minute from Kieran on the audio edition there's some interesting stuff going on with AI 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should we call this show um well we've got selfie side that's almost a little too close to reality uh Alexa all over your house nice uh use encryption bro seriously uh go go is no go for security ah interesting I like that um we chat you pay nice yeah that works there's some good ones here today good job yeah I mean I'm attracted to Alexa all over your house because it's one of the top vote getters and also pertains to the main discussion yeah I kind of like that and also I kind of like that I like that gal she's in my house I'm cool with it I had to unplug mine because every time I talk about Alexa on a podcast she wakes up and starts talking back no I thought about that like I try to refer to it as the echo whenever we discuss it but there's just no way around it sometimes yeah hmm what are you talking about yeah sometimes she'll just say something out of nowhere yeah like not like early in the morning when I wake up she starts talking sometimes it's very creepy it's rude Eileen doesn't like her she doesn't think they get along because because she said things and it just says I don't understand like it won't recognize what she's saying I'm like works fine for me I was talking to a company two days ago for the start for my for my podcast and they're creating an AI for the home but they're using a home server to do it how interesting and it's they're charging ten thousand dollars for the server and there it's going out to very high-end connected homes like kind of the company that may otherwise have like a Crestron system or something but but I asked him is like aren't you worried about like Alexa and Amazon how much they're pouring into that and they're just going to bring the cost down because Amazon just wants to sell services so they didn't seem too worried I'd be worried they never are and then they then they start suing that's usually the way it goes I you know I hadn't even thought about that but we're you're sort of hearing the last echoes of the smartphone patent wars with the Samsung Apple case they are sort of fading those kind of patent disputes seem to be getting less internet of things is going to be one of the one of the big fields for that did you guys talk about last week the the Qualcomm Intel where they kind of bury the hatchet on you know I I don't think we ended up running it because there was just so much stuff going on but I did have that that was big news that's like a big deal so I didn't I should have mentioned it but it was at the it was at the apex of all the in mobile world congress stuff yeah there was just so much going on but yeah no that's that's kind of kind of huge for for IOT huh it is a big deal and it the two companies that weren't involved with that are surprise surprise Google and Apple I've got a run guys this has been so much fun thanks for having me on thanks Michael no appreciate it and hopefully it went okay yeah it went great as always alright hey Lynn great job you guys have a good weekend alright take care so Thomas Marie Thomas yes hold on Monday I fly to New York Monday okay I'm in the hold on I think I'm processing that sorry now it's a little trickier edit today because I forgot what I was doing and I played the frog pants outro so now I have to go and the AlphaGeek radio people can hear me doing it I have to go like trim that off and then put it back in essentially so hold on a sec ah there perfect okay so Monday you're fly so you won't be around on Monday yeah I mean I fly the airport got it alright good to know Michael on fate like an actual vacation to what is a vacation I don't know people keep recommending it to just discovered what a vacation is you should talk to him okay I'd love a vacation Matt and I haven't taken a proper vacation together for three years and by proper I mean any at all I have you beat the last vacation I took with my family was in 2011 was that the bed and breakfast no that was in Florida we drove down you're saying like more than a weekend yes exactly we went we drove down to Florida and that was in 2011 five years ago I don't even think my one son has even been on a vacation with us he's in a life he knows only a life without vacation he has no idea what is a vacation children at school discussing can I have more vacation no this is not even a joke he gets excited when I say we're gonna go to the bank he's like banky land I'm like yeah banky land because banky land has lollipops and stuff well that's why he's getting excited I thought maybe you were like trying to sell I'm like this is what an amusement park is it's banky land no I'm not that cruel but it was yeah it's pretty sad alright well I'm gonna log off as well alright man thanks for the awesome awesome job again no problem this was a lot of fun this was very very cool so always always a pleasure and always good to do the show fantastic alright thank you guys I gotta find where where's the button Hank how do I get out of here see you later well I'm exporting that's what I'm doing alright I'm reading this really interesting book what are you reading it's the latest from my doctor of choice the eat fat get thin because I am fat and I would like to get thin and be healthy it's a nutritional book but it's really interesting it covers in great scientific detail a lot of stuff that we've talked about in the past nice who wrote it who wrote it the doctor is Dr. Mark Hyman and he's it's so weird it's one of those books that was being given away free an earlier version called the blood sugar solution being given away at the huff post spa oh he's the blood sugar solution guy yeah democratic national convention in 20 I guess it was 2011 right or 2012 for the 2012 election in charlotte and I just grabbed the book and I was like oh my god so he's continued to put out books and this is the latest one that's being like disabusing the notion that all fat is bad for you and in fact might be really good for you certain facts have shown that they probably are necessary actually yeah well that's the thing you say we're basically being deprived of them by this idea of a low fat diet and starving our brains to death that's the takeaway yeah I've been trying to get Eileen to understand that because I think right now we're in the overreaction against carbs like there's good 10 years from now there's going to be somebody writing like you need a certain amount of carbs because you do but I do think that carbs are a more naturally fattening part of diets than fat and also it's not even that they're fattening it's that they're like the way that they're breaking it down now is like if you think about food as the medicine for your body that you're not getting enough medicine for your right kind of fat that's a really good way of putting it it's really complicated in that there are like good fats, bad fats that are good when you use them the right way and then fats that are just all the time bad like a trans fat but the idea that you're not supposed to eat any fat at all is contrary to like the entire human history of evolution and it's this kind of thing that appeals to your common sense because it's like oh well if I eat fat then it turns into fat because it's fat that makes sense but that's not actually the way it works totally the opposite it causes you to burn more calories because it's harder to digest so like you said not that eating the wrong kinds of fat can't increase your weight and other kinds of fat are just bad for you in all kinds of other ways so you have to really know it and what's really interesting is that I've been eating like half an avocado a day for breakfast along with like some eggs and I literally like I get through the whole day and no matter what I get a little hungry but I don't get that like crazy hungry that I did when I ate that's amazing so yeah so little stuff like that yeah it's like you know vegetables are good for you right nobody disagrees with that it would be like saying and therefore I'm going to eat poison mushrooms because they're vegetables like no there are some vegetables that are bad for you like you know you do have to think about things a little bit so I think it's really interesting and I'm going to give it kind of a go just because of course I'm going to New York so that's going to screw everything up because I am going to eat shake shack right there's like but can you get a sugarless shake shack shake well I don't actually drink the shakes I have the burgers and the fry the fries are not good for you they are good but they are not good for you the burgers not too bad for you really I know so I think I'm going to only have it once and that will just be that because apparently it's coming here oh yeah you guys are getting and we're not getting one over here in the west meetings at Shake Shack yeah because it's like there's one going in in Glendale there's one going in West Hollywood there's one going in where's the other one going in Silver Lake or something somewhere I only heard about the Glendale and the West Hollywood one yeah there's one other and I can't remember where but it's somewhere farther and I'm like why are you not putting one of the Santa Monica for goodness sake yeah I couldn't find the real estate I guess yeah it's probably it because umami had to go in with in that like fashion mall in order to find a place to they could afford so oh Dementis it was Dr. Mark Hyman H Y M A N Dr. Mark Hyman and the book is called Eat Fat, Get Thin and um I haven't tried it so I can't recommend it but it's super scientific which I think a bunch of people in this chat room would really like like it really breaks it down huge fan of The Foodist by Daria Rose and the more I live with what I learned from that book the more I think it is the second book you should read the first should be something that helps you because most people they get into the nutrition because they want to lose weight and I always say it shouldn't be about losing weight it should be about getting healthy but that's the motivation right everybody's like uh put on a few pounds the same way for me I started figuring like how to eat better when I was putting on a few pounds so I get that so you should find a good book that helps you with that because The Foodist doesn't give you a plan right and most people need a plan The Foodist kind of gives you the information to create your own plan but a lot of people aren't ready for that so I would say get one of these kind of books whether it's the one you're talking about or something else that you can live with then graduate to The Foodist to be like okay how do I actually keep eating healthy like how do I how do I take this and turn it into sustainability because most diets are not sustainable but eating well is sustainable I won't lie I totally would like to lose weight but I'll tell you what else I would like I would like to have non-puffy hands like I would like to have non-inflamed hands that don't feel like little gnarly hands in the morning well what it was you know what it was for me like 2008 I think when I was working at CNET I was getting short of breath in situations where I'm like I should not be short of breath right now that's ridiculous you know and it was because of not eating properly and not exercising properly well so that's happening although first I have to survive a trip to New York I love that that idea of treating food as medication I mean you can take that metaphor way too far but thinking about it as you know food is something that has an effect on my welfare right you take the wrong medicine you can get really sick you take the right medicine you can feel really better that's basically it that's basically it a whole lot better okay I'm uploading I made some Fusoloni last night it turned out well I was probably too light on the salt that is my my one worry oh man I gotta change that but it's probably better to be too light on the salt than too heavy because at least it's edible when it's too light but yeah it was one of those hello fresh things and it was good yeah exactly you can add it I added some to mine once I was like this needs more you can always add more but I love that you know all the portions are right there and you just put it together same thing as blue apron right yeah the only thing about blue apron and all that is that if you really are trying to do one of those things where you're going much more fresh vegetables and much less carbs they are pretty heavy on the potatoes and the pasta yeah in blue apron and I understand that because those are eminently transportable so I feel like it would just be maybe a matter of like either just not eating as many of them or mm-hmm you know yeah I noticed that too like I like I said Eileen is trying to cut carbs down and of course they send pasta with potatoes right so the first one I made was the alugabi because she's like I'll make that but then she was like oh wait it's potatoes and cauliflower like that's not necessarily better but well I think Jackson I might go on a field trip to cheer people up oh good that sounds like a good mission yeah a mission to spread love and happiness yeah I think so I think so I came to the conclusion the other day that Jax might be our planet savior because not that strong but like and I don't mean just Jax I mean like pets right yeah and how happy the right pets make people because I found that people like when I'm walking with Jax like at the grove or somewhere like people go out of their way to be happy around the dog yep like and this is not just my dog it's many people's pets but like it happens to me more often with Sawyer than Django but it happens to be with mine and it happens to me on the other end when I see someone with a dog I just like oh yeah right and that provides you know of course people who have had bad experience with pets won't feel that way and that's a shame but like like people just the way their faces light up when they see this dog or another kind of cute dog like it really is profound when you think about it like Jax bring a pet to Yalta you know like it would have worked out better I mean we are a symbiotic species yeah with cats and dogs and sometimes other animals but mostly cats and dogs I mean if you want to love a ferret I'm not gonna go for it yeah you're free it's free country ferrets alright there you go folks spread happiness wherever you go and we'll talk to you tomorrow alright