 Extract the sealer from the noise and this is an incredible open-stack summit I'm joining with my co-host Jeff Frick and Alessandro Pugilotti. Nice to meet you. Nice to have you in the queue. I know you're running quickly. I know we're a little bit behind. Had just scheduled in about five minutes earlier but you were on stage, downstairs in the main hall. I mean, there's a packed house down there. The room's packed. It's locked down. It's hard to get out of there. It's like rushing through the crowd, stampede. But quickly tell us. So tell us about your company and give a quick overview of what you guys are doing and then we'll jump into some questions. We are doing the integration between OpenStack and Hyper-V and in general Microsoft Technologies. So we developed all the Nova Compute Driver, Quantum, Cinder, Nova Volume for some Hyper-V, Windows Storage Server. We developed also the Cloudy Need for Windows. So let's say we are focused on the integration within the interoperability between Windows and Microsoft products and OpenStack. So it's cloud-based software? Yeah, exactly. And not infrastructure? Not infrastructure. So software and services? Services, yeah. So all our products are open source, okay. And on top of it, we provide services and consulting. Got it, so it's free software. Yeah, exactly. Okay, cool. Open source, I mean, it's the model of many. We love open source, scale out, scale out open source. It's changing the world and this is really the beginning of it. Take us through some of your engagements with customers. What are you guys delivering for the kinds of services that you work with them on? Yeah, so we have a lot of customers which want to run virtual workloads which are Microsoft-based. And of course, the only real way to do that is to run it on top of Hyper-V because Hyper-V is a Microsoft product. So Windows runs in the best possible way on top of Hyper-V from these perspectives. So they are very interested about it and they come to us because they need consulting about how to do it, consulting about how to better leverage the technology, how to do massive deployments because of course OpenStack is a technology which it's mostly an employee-less scenario which are involved in thousands of servers. So not something that you can do lightly without having experience about how to do it. And we are the guys who wrote this, so we know how to do that. Yeah, that's great. And so our most engagements around where the legacy environment is a Microsoft environment, so that's where you guys are playing. So we haven't heard much about Microsoft here, John, in the last day or so. So what is kind of the Microsoft take on the OpenStack and what it represents? I'm not from Microsoft, so I cannot give their place on this perspective. That's why we asked you. You're on the ground. You're with the truth. We're going to get the truth out of the field. That's why we're in Portland, not Seattle. Let's put it this way. Let's put it this way. We are doing this work. I'm a completely autonomous company, okay? Right, right. And we work of course together with Microsoft. I mean, they're very supportive in helping us with all the information that we need. I'm a Microsoft MVP, so I work together with all Microsoft technologies since ages, okay? And of course, Microsoft has also their other technologies which are Azure or System Center, okay? So we want to make sure that OpenStack is not going in, let's say, competition with their technologies. It's actually taking a completely other segment of the market. Right, right. Well, it fits right in with everything we've been talking about, which is that people have incumbent systems. They have legacy systems. They have big pieces of investment and business running on- Yeah, I will not use necessarily the word legacy here because there are a lot of new deployments based on Windows Server 2012. For example, we are distributing now Windows Server 2012 evaluation version already packaged with all the OpenStack related features, including our Cloudyneed, all the drivers, for example, Virtayo for KVM or XenServer tools or everything related to Hyper-V. You can just download it and deploy it in Glance or in OpenStack without needing to know anything about how to do all the dirty work behind. Great. And what were you showing just now? What was your demo? Yeah, that's one of the things. I was demoing about all the Hyper-V integration. I was showing about these great news. Actually, we published it today. So Microsoft gave us this opportunity. So you can just go on our website and download these images. You have, of course, to accept the license, which is for Microsoft. It's not our license. It's completely free again. We provide it as a free service. An evaluation, of course, copy. So you can just use it in production, that's for sure. So, tag us through. I know we've got a couple minutes left here if our next guest comes up. But I want to get your opinion of what's happening here at OpenStack. Obviously it's a great community. It's grown in just credibility and authority around. You have real coders coming in, contributing software. It's open source base, good governance, real deployments, good proof of concept. So you have a lot of production action going on. So as we say, there's a lot of meat on the bone here. Share with the folks out there your observations. What's happening at OpenStack? What are the cool things that you think that they should know about? I'm frankly amazed about how fast this project grew up. I mean, if you think about that, it started only in 2010 and they have a very aggressive release cycle. I mean, every six months there is a new release and the quality is amazing. And also I've worked quite a lot in open source. I've worked with Microsoft Technologies and the way in which also all the code infrastructure is made, it's incredible. I mean, you can just take any nightly build to say so of OpenStack and it will work almost seamlessly. Okay, so we are of course pretty far away still from continuous deployment but the quality of the code is amazing. The quality of the contributors, if amazing. The level of coding is an enormous entry level, okay? For companies. I mean, also the way in which the core developers are evaluating and reviewing your code is very, very strict. They are rising the bar continuously. I believe that there is one of the top notch products and projects right now out there. Yeah. Is it the passion? Is it because where we are and kind of the life cycle of an open source project that we're, you know, this is one of the latter ones or why? I think that of course the history of open source project is pretty long. So when they started this project, they knew all the mistakes in the previous ones, okay? So they knew how to manage a large project like this one, consider that we had almost 500 developers here this time, which is huge if you think about this and also a lot of companies involved and this project is not controlled by anybody, in fact, because it's a... It's a community. It's a community here. So it's great from this perspective. I mean, other open source project in a way or the other are controlled by a single company. It's definitely not the case here. The vendor neutral is a great idea. Yeah, and every vendor can just take it. Another important thing is Apache 2 license, meaning that anybody can take the code and create a commercial product on top of it. So it's not like the GPI code in which you have to recommit everything back to the community. Talk about Amazon, what have they have done? Because they are the gold standard. They're doing a lot of things. They're introducing more products. Talk about the bar being raised. A lot of developers love working with AWS. It's just so good. I mean, they're doing great. But for large companies, it's not that easy. What's your take on Amazon? Well, we have, for example, a migration product which makes it absolutely easy to migrate for AV AWS. So easy to migrate to, for example, Azure, to OpenStack, or to whatever other technology. Because, of course, Amazon started this business, to say so, okay? So kudos for them to the way in which they created it. And of course, they started with already a high level, okay? So in the moment in which OpenStack started, you can see, of course, a lot of influence from Amazon inside of OpenStack. But now OpenStack is taking its own way, its own take. So now, for my opinion, it's also Amazon time to, for a confrontation with what this great project is bringing. Yeah, Amazon's got to up their game and recognize that the fight for the enterprise is going to be well defended. It's going to be tough. And also, Amazon is, of course, not the only one in the domain. There is also Azure, Microsoft. There is, of course, Google and big companies which are based, of course, on OpenStack. I mean, so it's a very interesting arena, from my perspective. And consider also the fact that, so we are originally from Europe, and a lot of companies in Europe prefer to have their data stored in data centers in their home countries, especially government-related companies. So they want to want their data in databases, in data centers, sorry, which are in Seattle, let's say, outside of their territories. Even if we live in a globalized environment. And OpenStack, it's great from an international perspective. Not only from a US perspective, it's, of course, it's the place of work of this technology. So in that use case, the European example you mentioned, it really highlights what we were just talking about, Jeff, around infrastructure as code. People, developers need to be involved in this, not just stack in a rack and see a later manage it. A lot of active, a lot of management, automation going on, which Sean from Service Mesh was talking about. We're here with Alessandro Pilat from Cloudbase. Startup, you guys are doing great stuff. Final word to you is I want you to share with the folks your goals for the next year as a company growing up in this great market. What's your goals for next year? Well, we are going up at a crazily fast rate. So we started last year, our work with OpenStack started with Folsom. We work like crazy this six months. And we released an amazingly number of new features. And we decided to rise the bar even higher for Havana. And we have even bigger plans for the next time. I mean, so take a look at our website, come to our sessions and everything because you will see great new stuff there. Great. Cloudbase, hot startup, obviously OpenStack, obviously on an inflection point, crossing over to the mainstream developers, enterprise with the big companies here. And you get the startups like Cloudbase. So this is it, this is the action here live, exclusively on siliconangle.com. Our continuous coverage of the OpenStack Summit here in Portland. I'm John Furrier with Jeff Frick. We'll be right back with our next guest after the short break.