 Hello, and welcome to the gacha for the guardians of the galaxy stream. Oh boy We're gonna start a little stranger than usual with a comment. I spotted on the unlisted version that This has got some counter arguments to what we were talking about. I was curious to cover them Okay, it got a chug of upvotes. So, you know, it was a curious series Why don't you guys think I'll I'll read it out piece by piece? All right, we'll start with the overall point which is I Strongly disagree with the ending it has a very positive vibe It's certainly more positive than I expected, but I see it as pretty neutral leaning to negative That is surprising I mean before getting into references I would just say oh I didn't even entertain the idea that it was even close To in any way negative. I thought the idea the broad idea was that they all finally get to pursue Sort of the things that truly means a lot to them the film ending on everybody dancing and smiling Gave me the impression that this was a happy ending. It's not even just well, you know what? We'll do it one by one, right? So the first point is from this person Peter meets his dying grandpa. So that's bittersweet Um, I mean, I think it's just happy. It's just sweet There's no bittersweet there that he's not even a dying grandpa It's not like into Stella where he meets the the daughter of the night before she dies It's that his grandpa is old, but he's meeting him. It's strictly sweet Yeah, like the only way that I could imagine like I could imagine a scenario where it's bittersweet to like meet a dying Relative after having missed many years with them But like that was not the vibe that you get well, you would have been in hospital beyond a hospital Yeah, you figure that they'd emphasize Like a level of you know him sort of like being pretty close to the end But like I don't know just looks like he's living The the after-credits scene shows them just live in life. Yeah. Yeah It's like yeah, it's Peter getting to hang out with his grandpa, you know They're eating cheerios together in the morning. He's reading the newspaper and it's supposed to be like, yep This is normal life that he's got I don't get the impression at all that we're meant to be like, oh damn man, Peter You missed out on so much the impression I got is finally like, you know, Peter made the right choice reunite with his is grants So, yeah, I Don't agree that it's bittersweet. Just just a positive on that one. Gamora is softening But as a result does not belong anywhere. I know she is very happy with the ravages So I would say that they are very wrong in their assessment And it's unfortunate because it would be a probably more viable ending to have her not knowing what to do next But clearly she says it throughout the film and they show us she is happy The ravages very happy party and with of their hugger. Remember the the portal Naga was there the floating robot head She's refused them as her people Yeah, she's a ravager through and through like we think that that's he loves them But like the film definitely thinks that she's like film. It's not confused about what its position I guess James Gunn would say she is happy with them Well, that might be an interesting question is what do we think James Gunn says like yeah, man That was a pretty negative ending. Do we think that he says? Yeah, that's what I was going for. No, do we think that's what he would say? Like really much dancing and happy music Yeah, for me to think it's sad. I don't know man seeing Nebula smile for like the first time ever I definitely didn't get the impression. I was meant to be sad or otherwise negative Funny you say that the next one is Nebula is taking a role. She never wanted because she has to I Know she isn't she she's happy She wanted to do that she chose it That's a complete misread as far as I'm concerned There's there's a line about how all of these children are finally they're gonna have lives That are like not shit though the kind of life that she had and that she can be the one who makes that happen Yeah, so I would argue. She's actually very happy to give all these children a better life I think the fact that we got to see her smile for the first time like to me that was I Figured that people would read that because that's how I read it because you know, I still like Nebula as like as oh wow She finally is like happy. She's actually smiling. We never see her smile ever So like to see her smile is really that's really cool as a payoff I certainly didn't get the impression that I was meant to look at that and go oh No, Nebula smiling like yeah all three done so far. I'd say they're all strictly positive now Yeah, is a mantis couches it diplomatically, but certainly seems to have soured on the guardians and the role she plays with them so The problem is that like this just comes out of nowhere Wait if I say is it a positive ending for mantis like well, it's not an anything for mantis. It doesn't make sense for mantis So I can't say what is going on here, but it's definitely portrayed as like a I'm off on an adventure I'm focused on herself, and she is against anything else So glad that I was with you guys, but I'm walking my own path now, you know Yeah, and she signals the creatures and it's like here. I go off on my own. This is gonna be my own adventures Yeah, I don't believe for a second that that scene is a bad ending when she says I've only ever done what the guardians want me to do It's like um no you wanted to be part of this team and you got to make a lot of choices Uh, yeah, I really don't want to go to earth You went to earth to do the Kevin Bacon Christmas thing That was something that you wanted to do that you set up Yeah, and you did it and you didn't care like whether or not Peter was gonna approve of it or anything You just wanted to do it and like the idea that she's never had the capacity to make any choices with this team It's just I don't know where that came from. She's also like fucking with team members There's that oh yeah by that point fucker, but you know, it's very clear what the Yeah The most I would sell on that one is neutral But that's just because of the flimby writing like no one knows what's going on I don't think that James Gunn would again to appeal to this vague. What would James Gunn say? I don't think he'd say yeah, that was meant to be negative You know, she has like no sense of identity or place and she has to go discover that because the guardians can't give It's word they actually robbed her of a lot of years of her life I don't think that he would say something like that. I could be wrong Rocket becomes the leader of the guardians, but he lost his second adoptive family No, he can go and probably visit him whenever he wants. That's the thing Yeah, I don't really go visit Nebula's and nowhere Nebula drags in Star-Lord are all easily visitable. Yeah Yeah There is the whole that he's like he's Embraced his identity for the first time in his life when he's been utterly resistant to the notion of ever doing so and like Comfortable with opening up with people like rocket has a very I would say that rocket like rocket's got some level of peace here Like why would again? Why was he so? Standoffish is because he never wants to be in a position where he has to experience the pain of losing his family ever again But you know the end of the story is no he he's that's the place he belongs That's what he's the best at that's what his purpose is to guide a family I don't know what to say man The final frame of the movie is rockets spinning around dancing and like screaming with joy like absolutely overjoyed and thrilled It's not negative even remotely absolutely not negative. I don't know how anybody could possibly say that that's negative I'm not sure how you could be like yeah I'm so glad with the story that we've got for rocket and then also say but I mean that was a pretty negative ending I don't know man the thing that I like about it for him is that it is so positive Even though you know I'm glad he made it out like thank God we got something out of this movie I mean he is he is the character that is the strongest portion of this film I will say like last not least Drax although probably the most positive is still without his friends and his left working with the Guardians member He got along with the worst the side characters get fairly happy endings, but I don't think the main characters do Drax he gets to be the answer Drax like he's dense something so again cuz I I do I do like these films or at least I like the the other ones um Drax's has like made reference to the fact that like his people don't dance. They don't dance He doesn't really dance dancing is for idiots. He said that in the movie. Well, wait, and I could have sworn He said it's not that his people don't dance is the love of his life didn't dance. Oh Yeah, yeah, that's right um I'm pretty sure the idea was that he doesn't dance either and that's why he was in love Yeah, he said the movie only like He is actually breaking out into dance because like he's you know so happy and thrilled with where he's at How was that not like unrelenting has to be a father to loads of children? That's of course. That's obvious like he doesn't he didn't have that he lost What do you think James has tried to do is like his whole thing was revenge for the killing of his family? And now he gets this huge family Yeah, I I don't know like I'm not even I don't know if I would describe this as like I Don't know what I would call this So yeah saying that like the the side characters get fairly happy endings, but the main ones don't I Don't know what that means is Peter and rocket the main ones or Well, yeah, or is he talking about like craglin or something like I don't know or our Cosmo Yeah, cuz they had happy endings, too I feel like everyone got a happy ending of all the hero characters It's yeah, and our problem is not that they got happy endings It's how we got to those endings exactly and I never expected this film to have such an overwhelmingly positive ending Like oh, you know it was like so dower. Yeah, I think what we heard that it was like that was saying as a negative We're like yes drama, you know tragedy But I mean The other thing One they wanted to talk about was the we were wrong on the Adam Warlock arrow tone thing, right? And they said it pretty unambiguously works for four reasons Before I read out these reasons I want to say that what they're arguing for is that is not tonal whiplash, okay as a joke So reason one it is humorous. Oh I mean that stating the family that we're talking about yeah That doesn't actually have anything to do with what we're talking whether or not It's funny we said this Humorous like that's the point is that it's humorous? I think I said at one point I didn't movie cynic and I both agree that we didn't find it funny But that's not what I'm talking about whether or not I find it funny is not the problem I mean it wasn't a joke either like whether or not you found it funny. It's like therefore, you know what I mean? Like yeah, it's obviously the point was yeah, the point is very clearly humor the the primary issue I had was placement not whether or not it's funny Some of the jokes that we were happy with because it's difficult to talk about whether or not some of this funny Right if you go beyond I laughed or didn't but saying it is funny as point one is kind of funny That's not really how arguments work number two it further establishes warlocks near invincibility So I got that when he flew through space and was fucking up all the guardians before then I think that's established with how he survives a stab through the through the heart as well There's another thing movie cynic said Yeah, I know he's strong. I got it. I got it number three. It is an early indicator of his stupidity and aloofness You can do that in many many many ways. I don't even know that is it for him to say who threw that He didn't see maybe Yeah, he wants to know his fucking with him. Yeah, I don't I don't know that's that says anything about his intelligence What that he didn't see somebody throw something at him when he only has two eyes, yeah, I don't I don't buy that Number four It's an early indicator that it was rocket specifically that he was after rather than the guardians owner overall. That's not true If anything what we learn is that why would you be after rocket if this is what like all the things that you're doing? It's kind of bizarre indication is that he would have fucked up the person who threw that at him He just didn't know who it was and he saw I mean He's he messed with everybody who like he went after everybody who attacked him Yeah, like Nebula shot at him and then he went after her. He didn't say to her where's rocket raccoon I want him. Yeah, like he went straight after her and then Groot attacked him and he attacked Groot back And then he started heading into mine, but I didn't realize he was after rocket Not at this point. I wasn't it wasn't yeah, cuz how would you ever reach that conclusion you would if you Reach that conclusion you guessed and you got lucky. I mean that's why when Nebula said they must have sent him To go after rockets like that's you can't actually conclude that machine Yeah, you could have said he was going after Groot or go it after Nebula. He just as much as rocket He attacked all of them everybody. Yeah, ever just because he attacked rocket first All that he attacked rocket in the most significant way like that doesn't change well technically he didn't because he ripped Groot's head off And of course what he did to Nebula if she wasn't Nebula like goddamn that would have been the end of her. Yeah So not convinced by any of those reasons I'm afraid I don't even think they have much to do with the complaint which was tone Well, yeah, that I guess the conversation kind of went in a few different directions at times But it was mainly about tone at least yeah, I wasn't really talking about like utility of it I was just No, we did talk about the utility of it to like as part of the conversation anyway Well, it's not what I was concerned with anyway that wouldn't change anything for me. It's more so about I'm confused as to how I'm supposed to feel so any any utility it has in terms of plot doesn't really change that for me But yeah, I know that our guardians take is gonna be possibly the most controversial one on the internet at this point I doubt anyone had more criticism of it than we did Especially to that They'll come around I think with this one. They'll absolutely come around I think that the rocket scenes are gonna overshadow any and all flaws people would see in the film And it's only gonna be a matter of time before You realize like a those rocket scenes really don't account for much of the film It's just when you watch the film again, and you're like man I love those rocket scenes and then you realize that a huge portion the movie is like a lot of dumb stuff happening like that Like that prison not for the what's the facility the the Yeah, like that I don't know how many people are gonna go back through that sequence and be like man This is like the shit. I'm here for you know when they're watching the film and then it's like Oh, well, that's not what I'm here for how much of the film is what I'm here for which is the rocket stuff It's like in terms of runtime like it's it's actually Surprisingly little Considering that it is the focus of the film in a lot of ways I'm not But and you know dents in terms of its you know payoff and you know emotion, but it is not Yeah, it's not a big chunk of the film at all That comment got a lot of upwards. Yeah Seemed unusual. It was at least like 11, which is pretty strong for Right. Oh 11 people. Oh shit on you Wow, well, I just I guess I don't understand like how you could even remotely come away with the interpretation that that was like a Neutral to negative ending like that's mind-blowing thing. I hadn't even heard That point of view before so it was actually negative. Yeah, which is an interesting idea, but I don't Not convinced I guess as well as I know Right then on With the super chance does it make sense for the antagonists to ruin the king's reputation before trying to kill him the the kings I Have no idea what this is referring to I have legitimately no Are we are we talking about like metaphorically the king or something like that? Maybe it's like a general writing question. Would it make sense for antagonists to ruin the king's reputation before trying to kill him? I would say it's gonna depend Maybe it depends on the goal If it's about like guardians, I don't know who you're referring to when you say king All right, then Yeah, no clue Dave Filoni As this mindset that the main character has to almost lose otherwise the story will be boring Um, I mean if we're talking about tension in the sense of almost losing meaning that the fights they get in aren't total You know just total slaughter fests then like I get what he's saying You don't it's you don't have to have tension that way, but it's a way to get tension is to have a character Nearly die in an encounter or to have a rough time of their fights, but ultimately prevail so If you had like avengers 2012 the portal opens and then Iron man and the Thor just fire all this shit into the hole and nothing gets through until the new comes in And then they tell the government to guide it into the hole and they do and it blows up and everything's fine You're like, huh Well, I guess that worked out And so you'd say like oh is the problem then that we need to have a point where the heroes are losing and it's like Kinda it would be more interesting if that was happening if things were harder the But um, you know, I wouldn't want to base anything definitively on that for example Mando has done that in each of the season finales and it's terrible because They'll give them absolutely overwhelming odds and then something insane will happen to make them win I think it's just not handling it with very much Talont Come on cap. We're with you That's that's fair. I saw some messages seeing that cap was like the the hero of the guardians movie I think he did very well defending many portions I'm not sure that he came out so happy with the film by the end No, I don't think so I can't wait for eFap to tell me my opinion about this movie Yeah, well, hey, if you find the references compelling then We want to convince you, yeah Uh wanted to get this thought out on the whole first game to give older person who hasn't played games and pac-man comes to mind Don't think any of you guys brought that up that one up That seems like it would work. There's probably a bunch that we uh, yeah, there's probably a bunch it for a lot of people It has a lot of games There's a lot of games that you could point to Well, it's just that format We were trying to satisfy what we were saying like we need to get them in a position where they Even they recognize this skill is what's preventing them from Progressing Instead of their knowledge on which part to put in which place to create the pickaxe to then take it with like you could tell Ben was just bored But when you give him something really straightforward like you control this thing and you just have to move it away from the danger Then it's about reaction time at that point, right? Yeah I have established rules and parameters and ultimately a goal. This is what your goal is It's to get this ball in this hoop and this is the rules Something like that Um, I give Guardians the galaxy 3 a 4 out of 10 and I will stand on the hill of it being the best film in phase 5 It's a fair thing to say This is the best film of phase 5 I suppose Hi rags Hello Thanks to the cast for all the entertainment to help me settle into my new house. Oh, oh, you're welcome very much Hope is going well Um a plot contrivance that creates conflict is fine a plot contrivance that resolves the conflict is an issue Any thoughts on that logic? When it creates it, it kind of depends I think Yeah, we've talked about this before Conflicts can be can be annoying take for example We have Mutants all over the world or something and the story is about one that um had cancer at the same time And it created like super cancer and then someone says Uh, isn't that a bit of a coincidence the mutant that has cancer and it's like well, it's Like statistically speaking that's probably gonna happen at some point And so you change the point of view on it from It happens to be this guy to more so we're looking at the guy it happened to happen to which is going to happen of like The sort of inciting incidents can often be said to be like You know what a coincidence that this happened But it's it's it's like the reason why we're following this person is because they were the person Who that incident happened to right and then we want to see where it goes from there Meanwhile in uh Yeah, the lottery is a good example of how that works. Yeah A lot of these will have a winner a lottery will have a winner That's not a contrivance someone winning the lottery Exactly when they need it and we've been following them the whole time and it resolves all their problems That's a contrivance If we had uh, you know the next spider-man movie in in the university Someone has been separately working on technology that has nothing to do with anything developed before and it turns them into a Giant mechanical monster that's going to try and kill the whole world. It's just like wow And spider-man happens to go to this university Yeah Sure So yeah, I don't believe the um to create complicated contrivances is just fine Like in that case, for example, it's like, well, how do we justify it's like, okay? Make them a student that's been studying Wakandan as guardian and all these different texts that have been coming out And then he makes a combination that a couple of them hadn't thought of because he's I'm trying to think of how you can Build it off other things that have already been established basically and then make it feel like it's actually happening Like it's actually happening here for a good reason um You could even have it happen at a different part of the world But then he comes to where spider-man is for some of the unrelated reason maybe because Uh, fucking out everything happens in new york, so New yorks happen in place Yeah, if you if you live in the mcu do not buy an apartment in new york Not just because you probably shouldn't anyway, but in the mcu. There's probably like aliens and Shit and an extra dimensional invasionary forces. Mm-hmm But yeah, there's always gonna be Ways you can better write it than simply that's just the way it's happening There was a lot of that's just the way it's happening in guardians three. Yep I watched that grace randolph efap while stoned. I'm still not convinced it wasn't a fever dream Yeah, she's uh, she's something else It's wild. Yeah, she's uh, she's like no other she's wild Look up the cosmic caterpillar nature is pretty pretty uh cosmic caterpillar I've not heard of this before but I assume Oh, wow, that's a that's an odd-looking one It looks pretty. Oh, yeah, that's great. I could see why it got its name Man is that how did it develop that way? What was the what is it? Yeah, I wonder what it's mimicking or or So it looks like there's two eyes on it. Do the eyes make it look like it looks like two eyeballs. Does it look like a, um Cosmic caterpillar Well, it's not it doesn't look like it's called a cosmic caterpillar Uh, this is from a reddit post um Yeah, I don't know what actual species this is or if this picture I'm looking at is fabricated um Cosmic caterpillar of the pacific pacific fruit piercing moth The pacific fruit piercing moth This is the caterpillar of that Um Yeah, I I it's a while some caterpillars appear like snakes to the predators carlant palette because creams eat the the I am curious to know what they are Attempting to mimic apparently they're supposed to mimic like leaves or something Which I don't see but maybe animals that would otherwise eat it think that it's kind of leaf looking maybe I wish james didn't blast his playlist any time he wants to change the tone of the scene Um, I did feel like the music wasn't as well handled in this one compared to uh, it wasn't as good number one Uh, not at all to do with the choice of songs more so to do with how they were implemented. That's all Um I guess they will now be straight fairy prawn of rocket never seen art with him with a girl high rags Hello, thanks for letting us know maybe it's very possible. Who knows I guess we'll never find out Originally, this was the start of phase four Wait, what was was got in starting out the way ever knew where it was. I think uh, I don't think it was part of the slight Um, because that was like around the time that he had gotten Like fired right and he's saying this was supposed to be the first to phase four I don't think that I'm pretty sure black widow was always like that was the plan anyway Or maybe like a lot of what I'm what I'm getting at is that I don't recall any time ever where we got like a big official slate that was like revealed to the public where guardians Three was like there Um, maybe that was like super duper originally early the uh plan Originally this was the start of phase four until gun was fired since this is his final film story meant for spin-off shows And movies were crammed into this Uh, maybe as in like there's a lot of things that happen in this that facilitate People because mantis randomly doing that will maybe make a lot more sense once we find out where she ends up next All right, well make more sense in terms of you know from a You were a scroll all along Wow That's that's the next one right Uh, hail fabbers just want to thank you for your excellent videos and the bts work on them Out behind the scenes, I guess They're a joy to watch much love to you all also high rags Oh, hello, and i'm glad you enjoy the stuff that uh, you know gets put out Yeah collecting those notes took a while But it made for a very long and deep dive into a movie that uh I mean, I we kind of knew that was going to happen after we'd seen it. I think it's like this is going to take a while You always get that with uh sci-fi films There's so much technology and implications especially one as part of a bigger world as the mcu Yeah At work a cult of jab member came to work and my co-work was incredibly confused So after I explained it and her question was what the fuck is it a meme or is it real? Cult of jab member first off it's absolutely real Jab Worship studio disney interference or gun disinterest Unfortunately, I think the reality is the gun really cared about this and he put a lot of effort into it and he likes all the choices I think that's the case Yep Unfortunately, let's just uh, yeah That's it Also gardens the galaxy was not good and rocket was the worst part and the oh poor animals was a bit manipulative So try and get you to feel did not work for me Oh Stand like that argument of uh, what's cute animals there for its minute as if they were children It wouldn't so this was brought up On open bar if you remember for you. Do you remember what I said? I'm curious if you'd agree. I said There are a bunch of goblin people in those cages like gross goblin people, but they had all the same dialogue and situation Uh, I'm the kind of person that would feel a shit ton of sympathy for them Absolutely Gross slimy goblin people go in man ain't it fun that we can name ourselves and we'll get out of here someday That shit just gets to me. It doesn't matter if they look cute I just think it's it's it's well made. It's like it's a well told story Yeah, so uh, yeah, I I think Sounds a little like overcompensating the whole like it's animals there for I remember this It's so crazy to think back to I am legend Where people said they try and use the dog to manipulate you with feelings and say Dude, that dog has a long like time in the film He's very justified as to why you would have a dog how useful the dog is And then what happens to the dog makes a hell of a lot of sense in terms of um Choices that are made and stuff and I'm just like You see people sometimes will just like sort of knee-jerk reaction being like, ah, it's an animal You're trying to manipulate me Or they're trying to convince you of a story that they're trying to tell and it being Worthy of your emotions, you know It's just sort of the the idea that it's not necessarily earnest when it absolutely can be Yeah, I think I'd rather just uh point out remember they did it with the fucking ragnarok They were like dogs manipulative Like the difference between supporting it with writing and having it have consequences That match like how the characters feel and deal with it Versus just I have a dog and then someone stabs it and you go. No, I'm a derg. Well, it's really just that simple Well, there's gotta be a line we can draw Hey gents, what are the chances of an e-fat movies with the original pita pan hook and pita pan and wendy? That is uh, that is definitely a real possibility. I would also want to throw in the 2003 pita pan movie Because it's got what jason isaac's playing hook in it What I don't even know this movie exists. Yeah, I didn't really I've been made aware of it briefly sometimes But now I'm like, oh full pita pans It will do two at a time Uh, yeah, because I would like to see him I've also read a peter pan book I don't know if it's like canonical or what the the disney canon situation is but there's a book I read as a kid called peter and the star catchers And uh, I rather liked it I remember it having many short many small chapters But I liked it. It was like a like a peter pan origin kind of story thing Uh a space shilling credit unit for star lord All right, thank you The dog was my favorite character I like cosmos. Yeah, I like cosmic quite a bit. I like the accent and Uh, you know little telekinesis powers in the suit. It's a it's a fun little yeah, it's a fun little thing Uh, they're retconning the time travel origin of the beast transformers in the new movie. Hooray Also, the dia used his own toys for storyboarding Oh the director Well, all right I mean, um, whatever if there's good news for transformers fans then good I I just I'm very out of the loop on transformers. Yeah, I don't know what the fuck's happening I think the reason why the new one is a little more exciting to people is because it's Like trying to retain the original designs and stuff Uh, which is probably like especially after the make these days The michael bay transformers movies kind of like going with these really weird incredibly complex like designs I can't tell them apart because they all look all like these these machine nightmares and I just don't know who's who Um, it it seemed like that was partially that was of the era right where it's like Well, you can't have them look like they do in the cartoons because that's yeah, we're not children It's here to make money They gotta look more real But I don't know those designs the original designs are cool and they stuck for a reason Are you guys excited for dune part two? Uh, kind of I mean, I'm gonna watch it, but like I'm not like super hyped or anything Yeah, it's like I will look forward to going to see that movie I don't have much passion at all for dune as an ip, but I'll definitely go watch it Uh in regards to movies being funny It's almost like the juxtaposition of a bleak scenario and high stakes made the injection of levity appropriate Uh, do you feel this way about like all of the marvel movies? Juxtaposition of bleak scenario and high stakes makes the injection of levity appropriate I don't think that's the actual position Do we feel the same way about like ant-man and the wasp quantimania when we have big world ending consequences and we do a lot of stupid jokes Yeah, I don't I'm not sure I buy the formula anyway. Like if someone said, uh, for example Uh, gala's humor. It's like that explains it and just be like that's not even that doesn't mean just jokes when harsh things are happening No, I don't think so. I think that's uh, yeah, it's a bit reductive The idea that it becomes appropriate because the stakes are high like I don't even see the connection and the logic there Yeah, like this this is a conversation that comes up again and again and again and again, especially for marvel movies is uh Was it totally appropriate and everyone's gonna have an opinion on it and uh It's really hard to nail it down. It's difficult. Yeah Uh, just watched jp stream I assume Jurassic park curious if you knew that in the first rex attack the car that's flipped over is cg In several shots including the first, uh wheelbite shot. It's done so well. I wondered if you noticed I I think we might have I think I might have said something about the tire maybe being cgi or something But you've got to really look hard To tell but it's interesting that you have to look really hard to tell the effects are really well integrated Yeah, it's incorporated so well Um, is adam warlock the first mcu autistic superpowered person? Hi rags Hi, uh, I don't think he's autistic. I think he's just uh new I think whatever he is is not um Um Like common in any way shape or form he's he's got a lot of things going on that we couldn't possibly know what's going on like he's underdeveloped as an uh Forged like new creature thing like there's so much about him. That's completely and unrelated to human that I don't even know what to say he is um Because she said he was like hatched too early I don't even know how his gestation would function. How does he does he come out an adult normally? Does he still need to learn and be taught things? I don't know But uh as as the high evolutionary said there's there's stuff that's wrong with him Don't know what it is It's no wonder nebula kept losing to her sister. She doesn't know how to dodge Yeah, uh that first attack from um, adam warlock seems so telegraphed. I find it weird when they can't dodge stuff like that Yeah, that kind of shit bothers me Why are you making it to where these characters are not dodging obvious attacks? They're should be good at this fighting thing Also, I don't like that nebula gets stuck with mantis and drax lost potential Uh Yeah, I wonder what potential is lost what idea you might have instead I almost wanted to I'd want to scrap counter earth and auger scope and whatever adventure we put them on that they're all together and it's a decent chunk of one like um It's not that I don't think there's potential with nebula mantis and drax is that I just want everyone together We just spend like the vast majority of the movie on counter earth, maybe and we get to have all the the people down there Uh, first off they're gonna not die horribly Um, but you know, it'd be fun to kind of see him in their society it's kind of like ours but a little bit different and by the way their society is structured we sort of Learn about how the high evolutionary wants a society to be which I think that could be interesting Music recommendation for you fine folks. Johnny man child and the poor bastards A jazz rock mix that I think freaky and rags in particular might really enjoy also. Hi morna. Hello. Hi Um, so I'll just pop it in the chair in case you guys want to know what it is um Uh How about creating art creating compelling art with being silly or joking and talking to people out of the moment entirely This seems like a second half of something. I'm not sure it's from Yeah, because I don't know what to do with that Seems like an incomplete Yeah, if it's just on the topic of the tone, like I said, it's just it's just really complicated sometimes to figure out Whether something is or isn't appropriate I think there was a time when people saw tfa in that opening with kylo and thingy the the people were having fun with it Right like he was Did why talk first and it's like Then like I mean that's that's you know, like that's the humor right to balance out like a diode stakes or whatever that other comments said That's that's this is why this is tough because it feels like Any argument one could make to defend adam warlock could be used to defend any of the tone mismatching sort of stuff Yeah, but I wouldn't want to sell it too short I could be like well your criticism sound like it could apply to most of the tonal mismatchy things in A lot of the even the best wow, I mean people go for ragnarok, right? That'll be the one well that uh infinity war and even avengers 2012 We're gonna have moments if people were to rewatch it and Keep an eye on which ones and it like I said, I just don't think there is an easy way This isn't like does something make sense or not? It's like a binary Most of the time anyway, I'm talking about like this the strict stuff like I always go with like a gun and it's amount of shots that it has left or something Um, there's no like oh well, there's just more bullets this time or something It's like don't really entertain that but with tone it can become so close It's like yeah, but that's in character or there's enough room here for that to be the case or oh It's serving another purpose. It does this or there's so many things to talk about That makes it complicated Um We're waiting for you in heaven, but now is not your time was cliche as fuck But it still made me cry Don't know how they did that, but it worked for me somehow five out of ten, but I adore the film Hey cliches aren't always bad sometimes. It's nice to get you know, kind of what you want Yeah I think we have a lot of I think a big issue with you know, a lot of A lot of movies is that they try to be really Ooh, look at me. Aren't I special and complicated and complex? I'm like, uh, yeah, but your shit And your ideas are terrible. So, uh, yeah How many of the tonal issues in the film do you think are caused by editing slash reshoots slash producer mandates versus guns original intention Were there any reshoots at all? I don't think there were as far as I know We saw what gun wanted and by the way people asked him Is there going to be a directors cut for any of these films and he said they are the directors cuts So, yeah make about what you will I think this is what he wanted to make Yeah, I think so, which is yeah That's not not uh, not awesome That's a shame He's like, um, James Gunn is do we feel like we need to put him in taiko iti side by side in terms of Like wild card or like maybe they'll do something good. Are they in the same bucket now? The thing with taiko iti is like he's making a his new movie is about like that It's it's something to do with like, uh, football like um, like a comedy based on a real story about a guy trying to coach like Like americans some old football team and I and I look at them like I figured that'll be good and it'll be funny Um Compared to like if he said four five, it's like uh-oh. Fuck or like, you know, his style was project I just have more optimism for him when it's something that's not like Mainstream like big budget and sort of like IP stuff. I think that's where I'm at with him So with James Gunn, I'm not sure because that's what he does and that's what he's going to be doing like forever probably, you know I don't know. I don't know what to make of a like what to expect for the future of uh, like James Gunn's work Um, I think you can have humor in high tense situations You can kind of have to find you kind of have to find a balance or else as you guys point out It can ruin the tone Um I mean the the common sentiment these days is the marvel doesn't like to hang on any particular emotion for too long Yep And uh, I would say that Guardians 3 is definitely going to be one that could be categorized that way Uh, except for a couple of scenes like when you know, even like rocket, um, almost screaming in agony over the loss of like Lila having um, the high evolutionary marking him soon after it one could argue is like, uh, feels I'm almost gross to look at or something Yeah, if they they did a really good job making us hate his guts Yeah, I was gonna say but that's kind of like one would argue. Surely that is a part of it That's the point of it. That's that's the kind of feeling we're trying to generate Disgusted at someone doing that. Yeah, he's an evil Had guy This might be sort of a way to how how do like in I feel like Tarantino films are like a good example of uh How do how do you balance like dramatic moments with comedy because he often does that? How does he make it work? Um, and I feel like it's almost worth pointing to the scenes where he doesn't do comedy You know for it to be like strictly dramatic intense as like a good contrast I'm trying to think of like which example I would pick off the top of my head But obviously the opening scene from inglorious bastards is like played totally seriously You could go with the uh, there's an interesting balance in the the pub Um scene because it's strictly tense for us, but there is there are jokes being told between them Well, I'm sure everybody like there will be moments in that scene where people laughed Uh, but at the same time it doesn't seem to like undermine, uh, the drama That's in that scene, you know, yeah, like I said, there's there'll be books to be written about strictly this topic It's uh, an incredibly difficult thing to nail. It's really complicated. It's super complicated Well, we're um, this seems we're I I forget off the top of my head. What were louise's last words in uh, resident evil four remake Because he feels like the kind of character who would go out with like a joke on a smile or something like that He did he did he did I think he said he was talking about like whether he he did okay Like whether he you know like not so bad. Oh, yeah. Do you think a man can change sort of stuff? Yeah Because then uh, because then leon like calls him don kiyoti. So yeah, there was something like that I can't remember exactly what the line was That was a good character. I really liked that guy. Yeah, he was yes. He was a real one much improved The arrow joke was lame because it basically the same as iron man two with war machine's missile Um, I mean that's I mean I feel like that one is better. It's the same joke But like I wouldn't say that's why a thing would be bad or good I don't think that the one was bad. Uh, I think because that one was about like the fact that um, The justin hammer shit was just not as good as tony's stuff It was like over hyped and and I think that scene doesn't work for me because of how fucking stupid It would be to fire that at him when he's two meters away from you Uh, oh, I mean there's other aspects of it. Yeah that don't really because like he doesn't he he doesn't lower his um Like uh face like yeah, they both got all people there have their face things Down yeah, but then when tony shoots him a little bit later like one second later Then he he actually like gets ready for battle. It's like he knew that it wasn't gonna work You know when he kind of didn't have any reason to think it wouldn't work unless He sabotaged it himself, which still I just but but I they called it like hammer It was they it seemed like the joke was ah, yeah, because justin hammer makes shit Like that's that's what I thought not. Oh, he sabotaged it Yeah, no, the same same. That's what you see. You see that's the point. It's complicated, isn't it? You know He's sort of just talking about it. Yeah It's not just what I thought it was funny. I thought it sucked That's not much of a conversation is it? Yeah, we'd say that Speaking of new blood, I'd love to get on local Who's writing philosophy is interesting and with discussing and schnee whose analysis is consistently good except the time you covered him I don't believe you because I've seen some other thumbnails, but um Yeah, I'd love to have them both on We got to pick we got I'd be happy to yeah, maybe pick some brains and stuff I know we still got there's a lot of great people out there. You know our problem is We got a lot of people we know We know we have a lot of good. Uh, we have a lot of good folks a lot of good friends of the channel There are so many perpetual motion machines in the mcu I have any motion machines Yeah, like they can keep themselves going sort of thing What are we talking about here like as an example because I'm aware of the concept But like what well, so that's the thing they haven't given an example And I'm trying to think like in all of the it probably is but I've never thought about it just like Machines that are operating on Energy that they could probably create themselves or whatever. I don't know. I Considering all of the insane sci-fi tackle when so all right well remember that um Wasn't uh stock towel was self-sustaining Yeah But it was pulling energy from like the sun or geothermal energy. So it wasn't like a No, it wasn't wasn't a stock towel was uh, that was his um, the tech that he used for the arc reactor Yeah, which is like a self-sustaining fusion like energy sources, isn't it Mostly self-sustaining like it doesn't run for absolutely forever, but Yeah, but like close enough to it to what you might as well say well, it's basically fusion energy, right? It's totally clean. Yeah, it's like we ain't gonna run out of atoms and shit, you know It's virtually free energy. We gotta run out of atoms in the universe. Yeah, we ain't gonna run out of atoms Yeah, it's virtually infinite. Yeah Yeah, because that's part of the plotline that um Stock tower is about to become a beacon of self-sustaining clean energy It's why Loki chooses to open the portal above it, right? he's um This is how he wanted to open the portal above stock tower Because about ego shit, right? Yeah, uh, they the talks about the couple of characters talk about it in the midway through the film And then they realize that Loki like references it when he's talking to nick fury What's been said about that? They uh, they've got that equipment right on stock tower. That was that was uh, that was like a no, but that was tesseract related, wasn't it? Or am I Yeah, the the line is uh It burns you become so close to have the tesseract to have that power unlimited power and for what a warm light for all mankind to share Which is uh referring to stock tower Yeah, of course Um Or the cube like yeah, but it's just a cube It's not there's a it wasn't just thrown in for lulls like as well I guess I'm getting that even though I'm fine with the i-man's tech developing That was one of the things with i-man 3 I thought was a really cool development at first was the um the pieces of tech being remote controlled Because I was always waiting for When he fully upgrades it's the point where it's in his blood. I was I was waiting for that the It's it's a really cool fucking direction to take iron man Blood Well, yeah, the all the bots are stored in the blood and that they come out and the but eventually it's it becomes like an addiction, right? Iron man He needs it. Yeah, it's like it's yeah, it's it's luciferium. It's you take it But then You made a deal with the devil here Yeah, and I thought that they were kind of getting in that direction because he has to inject Pieces into him to get the remote controls working I was like, oh, this would be a good step toward it and then infinity was like we got nano tech and I was like, all right and then Man those suits they just started to suck, huh? They did they really did Like they started to look a lot worse to just that lack of tangibility I don't know what it was those those suits just look way worse than the original They don't look real like I know that a lot of the originals are CGI and stuff But with this new ones, it's like that just don't I just don't They don't see it like tangibility of the original the original suits feel like um, you know Like a bunch of metal like plated together welded together to like, you know, create this Complete package the new ones feel like So divorced from reality that it's kind of hard to like feel yeah, I can't believe this Yeah, a little bit it whereas I can kind of believe the Iron Man suit even though obviously if you know Yeah, real tech Europe Sometimes when something look you try to make something look too cool. I know it's fake There's a kind of And honestly, there's a little bit of a beauty in just pure utility. It's that old like soviet firearm or like a post apocalyptic machine Where it's like it's clearly not trying to look cool But it almost does because of that. It's so utility Well, yeah, it's like in real There's uh the old ratchet and clank games had like a sort of retro futuristic aesthetic where a lot of it was like You know emphasizing that it's like, you know metallic nature of a lot of these things the clunky kind of uh Piece together like it's it's like you can see the seams right of the of the creation And that's kind of like that's cool in its own way scp of the day is scp 401 a palm tree also high wags Hi, this is a lower one. So I've read through it scp 401 Let's see Um, it's rated highly Let's see Keep uh keep going. I'll give this a little read through and just uh All right. Oh, it says uh, it resembles an ordinary tree in form and function However, human physiology is substituted for plant biology in the fulfillment of necessary processes The trunk is supported by uh multiple vertebral columns woven together by tendons and muscle encoded by a layer of rough bone tissue Also held together by flexible tendons. So it's like a flesh tree That's what it is. Um, let's see branches are suggested as human arms And then there's a bunch of logs for experiments. There's probably some weird fucking experiments that they do Yeah, I'll keep this open as a tab a lot of the scp stuff is like Really cool and interesting Um, it's you know, of course, it's a well known internet sort of you know meme and everything But a lot of those You know critters and ideas and phenomenon are legitimately quite interesting and they would make excellent short stories and movies So logbong of Mubschlington a buy do a minions e-fap movies make a chat poll you coward also high rags Critters for the good boy Hello We will not be doing a minions e-fap I will happily watch all the peter pan stuff But we are not gonna be uh, no we're not gonna be doing minions. Yeah Really get rags just outright say no to a minion like to anything really I mean I will say I'm not very interested in that Yeah, I'm getting ahead of this one Uh, I'm I'm you know freeing now. You're in agreement. I figured we might be Uh, but uh, we just don't interest me really at all I don't I don't know what I've got. I've got no passion for minions myself Uh, I love my ass off when the animals from the cages were killed. Am I a bad person? Yes Oh, you lost it bad I mean That's uh, what was funny about it? Don't I don't understand that at all like I don't I don't know why in the world You'd be laughing at that This will likely be too late But the tonal contrast you were looking for from mom was when strange was talking to the doctor from the first film at the beginning Oh, yeah, that was like a real back and forth. Yeah I but hey, I mean it was talking about a pretty dire thing, right? So I'll leave you alone. So It's a fair point There is no time where you can't apply that logic and so it feels like there's just no way to No way to really be definitive about any instance of tonal inconsistency other than pointing out Felt like it was booting me back and forth too fast. That's all um high ranks Hello If that movie's pixar versus dreamworks arc Dude that sounds really long It's we have to pick like I don't know what that means as well like pixar versus dreamworks Like it's a competition like I'm not the only thing I could think of Yeah, I don't know how we'd structure that or how we'd like make it Well, I mean we're talking like I think 30 films each at this point Like I I feel like that's about as many films as they've made Like that's that's like 60 movies. We have to watch Um, and I'm not really sure what the overarching objective would be there like what the goal is Yeah I don't I don't feel like for a lot of those films It's just gonna be a lot of it will probably just be silent investment of where so I could like the older pixar You know output um and some of the dream work stuff as well You know like if we're watching walley a lot of it would probably just be us silently appreciating it Yeah, I'm not sure about that one If happy's on my birthday happy me is happy also a general thanks for your huge contents over the years No problem. How'd you like? Hope you'll find it fun Is the six hour video the be a bad unbridled praise? No But it'll be fun to show rags be a bad someday You remember that one don't you free Which one sorry? Remember be a bad I don't It's the I think the only episode of Buffy that was made with a deal Yeah, I think I do remember that now Um, it's it's where the the episode was meant to promote the idea that beer is bad and I'm pretty sure they did not get the money after all because the episode did not achieve that goal as far as they were concerned I didn't get the money I'd have to check on the facts of that But I should never find it funny because be a bad is notoriously noticed like one of the worst Buffy episodes Well, I mean, yeah, I mean it is up there with the fish one Fish ones way worse as far as I can say Holy shit that one sucked Uh, hey mola still waiting for hellboy review. Hi rags mola rags, huh? Oh, that's the but yeah, um We have three hellboy movies, right the original golden army and then the recent one that they made That's right. I'm I'd be happy to do ifa movies for them, but I wasn't planning on like that at all videos for him or anything Yeah Hey mola and freeing daddy g been watching past e-faps with women also high rags Hey, um good for you Uh, when talking about the last of us mola said that rags plus alcohol equals med kit This is true irl if you give rags alcohol. He sometimes becomes very wholesome Um, I remember all of my search and rescue eagle scout training and I can fix anything And if I don't have anything to fix then That's all right, too Um The prime directive is shit in execution and morally um It's something to talk about that's for sure an execution. I'd have to be more familiar with the um with the episodes and everything morally is morally is interesting I don't know. Yeah, I mean we'd have to have a big fucking discussion about that We have to start from the baseline, right? Like all the different ways this could ever be implemented and how it creates good things versus bad things and then weigh those up I I already know what the argument against it would be of course It's pretty easy to come up with some reasons why you would want to do it And I think sometimes like essentially, um, I think one episode involved A species on a planet that was going to like die of this mega plague And they had the ability to introduce a cure That would either without letting the you know them know that starfleet existed or with very minimal You know, it's very very hush hush thing They would be able to deliver like a vaccine or a cure to save the civilization. And so that was a thing. Um Because the whole point of the prime directive is that you don't want to interfere in the development of civilizations um Which is you know, and then you weigh that up Against You know the good that you do with you know your medicine and technology and things of that nature. Yeah I think it was Gosh, like it was I think in mass effect the reason it krogans When they got nuclear weapons, they ended up destroying their own planet Uh, well, I think the krogans thing was also the uh, because there was the genophage that was created by the solarians Like yeah, I think this was before Um, uh, it might have been yeah, it might have been like when they got that level of technology They weren't like they're not a very progressive people Uh, they and so they ended up like destroying their planet or a lot of it. Um, kind of bringing it to ruin Adam warlock reminds me of homelander I mean, I guess a little bit. He has that kind of face To him. He has that you know a similar sort of facial structure Big powerful dude who's recklessly using it blah blah blah. I guess this stuff there these connections Yeah, yeah, I see what you mean. Yeah Um Drax jones destroy the child spike the ball I saw some other people talking about how uh, they love the movie But the him throwing that ball at the kid just felt so wrong considering his love for children Um, and I think that what you just it's it's less so him throwing it It's more so him not doing much about it once it happens Yeah, like because look at him. He doesn't understand what's happened when he absolutely would yeah Hi rags Hello, you play sea of thieves, right? Do you always do a proper ship send off at the end of each session? Yeah, we blow it up We blow it up and we watch it sink into the water while on fire and we play our little jaunty tune before Are you meant to do that? Um, are you meant to I guess you're not meant to Is that what people do they blow up their ships? Um before you log off. Yeah, so when you log in Every player you essentially get it's not like the ship itself. That's of value So when you log in You get a ship and you can choose between a sloop for one to two players a What there's a middle one And then there's a galleon and it essentially depending on how many players you have in your group up to four I think you can choose a certain size of ship and they'll have their advantages and disadvantages Um, so at the end the the the progression essentially comes from using the ship to get a bunch of treasure Bring it back fight other players and that sort of thing So you bring you go out you deal with all your adventures You get your you hopefully you get all your treasure and everything you put it on the ship Then you bring it back to a harbor and then you take all that stuff and you sell your your booty to get a bunch of money Um, but the ship itself is you know, it doesn't really like cost you stuff You you always you need a ship to play the game essentially so the game will give you a ship Uh, so at the end before everyone logs off for the night or whatever They take the ship and they put explosive barrels and they light it on fire and they blow it up And then it sinks into the water and and you you sit on the you know The little dock and you watch it go down and you may play some music Uh, and it's and it's a thing, you know, it's okay, right Uh, some of the characters in the guidance of galaxy movies have more development than others But they all have their own stories. It's not his story. It's their story I'd be much more fine with with that kind of point being made. Um That's why we were talking about it. It just felt weird saying it's his story Yeah, that is strange Especially when in terms of you know, if you had to pick a main character in the first two films, it's peter I think it would be even weirder if it was actually her saying it rather than his like Consciousness mixed with his memories or something But then it's like what is that it's like rocket telling himself to That it's his story. I don't I don't really understand it Lord long bong of mulesrington epi Is there any good chance for kong fap of peter jackson's long kong when there's less going on? It'd be movie fap for the ages Kies hello wags these scritches for the good boy Hi, uh, yeah, that'd be an interesting one to do. I wouldn't mind watching that again Along the kong it would be Very uh cool to check out how it stacks up Udumbo's autoplay ddlc too Perhaps someday maybe y'all ever seen generation kill No, I've not Neither have I so yep. No, I haven't seen it. Nope Love when star lord says come on. Gamora, baby. Come back. You're the crispy to my critters Apparently that was their favorite part Oh It is pretty good That's pretty good. Yeah Hello evap crew and guests curious to hear your thoughts on the hunt for red october highly recommended if you haven't seen it Also, hi rags Hi, I have not seen that movie. I have I thought it was neat Um, I don't think I like it as much as its reputation, but it's still pretty good or at least I thought it was pretty good Um, but it's been a while so don't really have anything else to say. I'm sorry Yeah I'm sad. None of y'all have seen deadwood incredible character writing in depth with the most unique engaging dialogue There's really nothing like it. I'll do one better. I've been to deadwood But you haven't seen it to that place. I have seen deadwood the town I saw the graves of calamity jane and wild bill uh, hickock and Uh, the the place where he was shot. It's all there. It's a really cool like old west kind of town Super uh, super super awesome. I highly recommend it I sometimes lament the fact that the national socialists gave perfect clumps of biological matter a bad name From bob dolfe chippler's book my struggle with super mario 3 bob Uh, you you guys have been a huge help with my writing for my ttrpg. Thanks for all you do and god bless Hopefully one day you'll be able to play it Hey, maybe I need to get me into some uh games here. It's been a while since I've played but Really happy to know that uh that it's helped I know if I ever because it's like a long-term goal for me to start sort of deeming those kinds of games And I already know that setting up a bunch of stuff A lot of that will be helped by you know e-fap and watching movies Wild raccoons live up to three years a domesticated one can live up to 20 rock It is genetically and cybernetically augmented. Who knows how long you'll live Seriously, if it was up to james gunn to the point where if james gunn said he can live to 200 or something Be like all right. Yeah, you've got a you've got a pretty much a blank check on uh on that They didn't have their technology. He was down I don't know what that means. I don't know what that means. No ODST is the best halo game. I will never super chat again All right. Well, you know what that's a fine. Yeah one and only super chat Because ODST is really neat. Yeah. Yeah, really like it Mahler thinks that ODST is really neat because it's the only one he's played right No, I thought it was the only one you played I played reach with you We never played No, no not reach the infinity, which we have a fucking what I don't know the names of the halo games Well, I doesn't know what he's done I've told you countless times that I used to play halo three alongside gears two and mom Yes, okay. All right. I got you As an american I'd like to say congrats on the new monarch. I watched a bit of the ceremony and it's very silly lull All right Are you are you like really invested in them? It could give less of a fuck. I know about it as much as probably the next american I just I just don't care about the monarchy at all Yeah, we threw a lot of tea in the ocean so we didn't have to give a shit about the coronation well At least the the sea creatures are happy That's right. You know what I'm glad I'm glad the old man's you know getting a special moment Or he gets to be up there with his scepter In his or You know good good for him Thing is people in australia care about that for some reason Uh, yeah, you'll you know talk to the right people here and they're like they live for it That's like the all the meaning of their life and it's like, all right. I I yeah, I just I don't care Uh, hi efab I found you through your arcane videos back when I was looking for more Content on what had become my favorite show. Thanks for the content Oh, you bet. I'm really glad that you found us that way. It was uh, that was a hell of a good show Yeah, those and that was three efabs for three episodes each right? I think that's how we did it Was it three four two or three three three? It was I can't remember exactly the order, but it was three. Yeah, three was a lot It might have been two three two four. I'm fine. Well, uh, might have been It was a lot of things to talk about and hopefully season two will give us the same passion to talk about it. I uh I can't imagine they won't I I would have thought they'd think like oh We need to do the same process to get you know good results Oh, no russian that sort of thing Oh, that'll be nice and stressful too Are you guys going to cover across the spider bush? Maybe depends on how it is it comes out and yeah It'll have to be we'll probably see it and then be able to figure it out from there Yeah So we'll put a maybe on that one Back when I was still watching nostalgia critic, I saw his la lion king review and found his conclusion curious Basically, but while the film was bad, it made a lot of money which favo could use to make more mandalorian Oh my god Geez, sorry. Wait, what? So you said So the nostalgia critics argument for why the live action lion king is good is because it made a lot of money Which favo can use to make mandalorian Jeez What do you even begin with an argument like that? I mean first off we got to begin by saying the mandalorian sucks balls The lion king made a lot of money so therefore the mandalorian will get more money No clue on that one. That's uh, no, it'll mean that all of the other disney live action sequels or live action remakes Yeah, if anything it would yeah, exactly boost them. It just deals their existence Um pretending of course that you guys think that mando is good What do you think of the spirit of dug's conclusion retarded? I don't even understand the through line there Yeah Uh, I would love to listen to a weekly show from fringy consisting entirely of him referencing simpson's moments and laughing Uh, I mean it would be a difficult well to exhaust because it would uh There's a lot of episodes and there's like a cool down on any one joke of about maybe two weeks And then it can be referenced again. Yeah, no, that's funny again Fast x should be fast 10 your seatbelts That's a good meme Uh, uh, it's there's two more, right? So this new one's coming out soon I'm hoping we can organize it so that we can Do a fast and furious arc that by the time it reaches the tenth one The 11th will come out and we can cover that maybe in like an e-fab episode or something because What what an insane franchise and uh, just even the trailer because I saw um In the cinema when I was watching I also I saw Dungeons and Dragons in theater, by the way through complete strange chance But the trailer for fast 10 was there and uh me and uh, my sister was just fucking laughing Like and I don't know that that's the goal, but that's that's almost better, you know I can't there's so many lines in there. You know, it's just like when your family is family And then jason mamo is like well if everyone's your family who you're gonna save or something What So yeah, I think that'll be fun to do Uh wings quote of the day shout out to my fellow finger sniffers and that boy wings redemption's chair for holding it down Finger sniffers. Hey man Have some respect. He's got to be boxing soon Uh gun says rocket is the character he sees himself in so I have a theory that rocket leading a new team of guardians Is intended to almost be a meta parallel to james gun now going from leading guardians to leading the dcu Um, yeah, cool. Maybe Oh unfair. Yeah There's a connection there Um, I have to admit though It was a plot hole he didn't use his rocket boots the scene for scene shot of starlo dying in space Like lao was pretty funny in a meta sense I don't even I can't even say like was it supposed to be funny. It's like I think it might have been Like when his face does the flumpiness and then adam say Do you remember how their face is looking the first one when they're dying? Yeah, I like rusted It's much more. You can tell it's taken much more seriously Yep Uh Osmo is a good dog, but rags is the best dog. Oh, thank you Disney uses a process called plusing with all the scripts This boils down to noting every film to death and with make x funnier slash more of it for max appeal well Yeah, that sucks and uh the challenge for any writer Dr. Strange writer Robert Cargill implied this is why edgar right walked in a double toasted interview I think the movie was an fu Oh, um Well, yeah, that's like a commonly understood story edgar right could have been a big part of the mcu, but you wanted to have more control And they said no And that's probably something they'd regret uh Oh, I I mean I I guess now they probably would but for a long time they probably thought now we're okay I think well, yeah My dad it's like but don't who's to say that edgar right would have made more than one atman film You just like knowing how it's ended up at this point. I'd be like fuck it Let's just give full control to all of these individuals in phase like three Let them branch out and go nuts And let them talk to each other. Oh, yeah, they can figure out what the overarching plan should be I install a t ADT for a living and based on this movie I can start telling my customers that their homes are better protected than orgo corp laugh my ass off I would fucking yeah orgo corp didn't do a great job. It's securing. They're incredibly important Research facility. They could have they could have worked a little harder They were like, oh, we got three shields. We got nathan filian. We'll be fine Hey was watching efap 10 and notice you said you plan to revamp thumbnails and stream visuals for efap once you finish The tfa series is that still the plan can't wait kappa? Well, it all got revamped if it's not quite done yet. You see they they flipped scheduling or something Yeah, that was back when efap had like updates every every other episode almost in terms of just how it looked and things What went on once upon a time the thumbnails were literally just a screenshot of who was in the call The discord that was it Speaking as a teacher 10 year old swear a lot Well, this is why I find it amazing Well, I was Really? Yeah, really when growing up you did not swear. I don't know South park was absolutely like Trey park or mats don't have talked about that the reason why the kids swear in south park is because they remember How they were like when they were, you know, 10 Yeah, we were we were swearing like crazy even in the primary all Especially by that time because that's when you're starting to think oh, yeah, I'm so cool, you know The big thing the crazy part for me was uh, my parents found out through 360 because I was I would get so immersed I forget that I can be heard And so they'd be like gee you swear a lot. I was like, uh Okay I guess it's on the the subject because I think it was something to do with like That you wouldn't take like that you would otherwise take your kids to see guardians 3 Except when you found out that there was one swear word Like I find that strange especially considering how much death there is in that film Like that would be terrifying. Yeah, that's my primary Concern with that. It's like that is not the thing to stop your kids. It just seems like a strange Like that. Oh, yeah, all of this crazy death and violence Cool, but like one swear word that the you know, I don't know But I mean that's why it's PG 13, right parental guidance. That's uh, that's your call to make and then culturally speaking Some parents don't want their kids to see a swear word until they're 18. Some kids parents are like, it'll be fine until they're 18 I'm kind of me me Not to say I feel like it's going to avoiding it by that point What makes it so much better is we rarely see characters react to death in an appropriate way or to a degree in the mcu I'd scream if my friend was shot I'm inclined to agree with that that was it was a really really strong like reaction and it's about time The mcu had something serious happening death seriously and the people's reactions to death are going to be dramatic Yep Rockets reaction to lila's death made me cry. Yeah, it's yeah harrowing I found my mojo. It's a six month long. Oh, it's six months long. I think they're talking about The re membership thing groovy, baby Mola unbanned metal hashtag free the mootel Mel's band Used to me. What did he do? Uh, they flanderized drax in universe with mind fleems Yeah, who knows who knows how much he's been deleting between scenes man. Who knows? Yeah, that's uh, the it's haunting. What do you prefer the last crusade or Raiders of the Lost Ark? Last crusade But it will soon of course be the dial of destiny. Yeah. Well, that will be the best. Oh deal. What when is that coming out? Is that soon? That's uh, I think that's june. I think sometime in june. We're entering that time of year So a trailer for it for this dam. Oh, that's the other trailer that I saw. Yeah, it was framed down in john Well, at least it's an excuse for me to rewatch the trilogy again because I probably will but I'll have to I'm actually gonna Fucking song Remember that song that was in those films that we didn't create It's it's Expected as fuck all the films have it. Of course. They have it I mean, we saw it right once we got to everyone Kenobi of like actually using tool of the face because it's like yep That's where we're at at this point. No. No, I meant the Please allow me to introduce myself song. Oh, they have that in the trailer and then they like re they mixed it into the Indiana Jones What? I I I don't In the Disney trailer that I saw before Guardians 3 Matt I I Don't remember this at all. Actually That's what the sound for me. I'm trying because sympathy for the devil. I remember talking to the devil. That's it As in gary about that song. I can't remember if that was because of dala destiny trailer. Was it? It might have been I I just generally might have been it was a little melty Oh, oh, oh, yeah, right. Okay. Yep. Now it's now it's starting to come back Yeah, now I remember I think I was mixed up with a totally different song Uh Hey, y'all speaking of guardians. You should check out the guardians of the galaxy video game It's a pretty good rat and I enjoyed playing it ps. Hello rags and hi frangie Hi I actually played that for a little bit and I kind of didn't enjoy playing it. Um, like I Super generic or uh, I don't know what it was But like the get the the combat was not like gelling for me at all really So that was kind of a struggle especially since it is a video game Like if I wasn't having that much fun actually playing it, but maybe that's a game. I always hear good things about it Um, yeah But I you know, I only I only put a few hours into it So it might be that I need more time But I feel like I put in like a good like three hours or something at least Um, or at least the opening section I got through and yeah, it just wasn't wasn't yelling for me At last by however harnessing the sheer power of autism that flows through my giblets I have managed to catch up from episode one all the way to now don't bless you dirty ewok words. Wow. That's legitimately Impressive Good god, you're a madman Well, I hope you had fun. That's an adventure. Dear god. I hope you had fun Thoughts on fly from Breaking Bad also high rags Hello It's a controversial episode. It's often picked as the worst one and then it's Responded to by video essays saying it's actually the best episode of all time. It's the most meaningful or something. Um I tend to like bottle episodes if they're handled well Um, that's kind of what that is when you say a bottle episode. That's like a self-contained episode Bottle episode basically means like one location sort of fixed set of Well, so if you imagine, I don't know like if it was like a star trek episode It would be one that's entirely on the enterprise or something like they don't go to a planet They're just they're all on the enterprise and it's like a very focused usually small stakes kind of story Locked in a room trapped in some kind of location. It's just wall-to-wall What was it? What did our bed say wall-to-wall emotional nuance? Like yeah He hates fall episodes, right Which is yeah, I don't know why he would but you know, well to be fit I guess when um, he presents his script to Hickey in season five and it's like awful I actually can't remember that But I it's kind of rings a bell Hickey's reading it and he's like my name is justice police justice and i'm gonna be a detective who's gonna Solve some crimes and Hickey's like yeah, I think I can help you with this Well, I because um our bed uh, you remember when he got shown like uh, that it was like doctor spacetime or something It was like a doctor everything and then it and then like it ends Uh, and it's only six episodes long and it like comes to an end and that caused them to have to break down Because he can't handle the idea of a show coming to an end He's a more extreme vision of all of us Yeah, kind of Uh But yeah, uh, well, what do you think about the fly episode from reagan bed? Uh, damn. I uh I I kind of don't remember that one very well It's when there were in there, you know the cooking no, I I know I know what I know that but like the problem Is it I I actually like don't remember it all that well in terms of what was a lot of other than There's like walls. I think really fucking mad. Well, he gets really mad but then he stays up for a long time I think and he starts getting a bit delirious especially because they're using Something to try and kill the fly that's like this, you know, it's an enclosed space It starts to fuck with them and then he comes close to saying something about uh, jane Uh, the thing is is uh, I mean I like I'm pretty sure that if I rewatched it But I would come away like enjoying it because I remember I remember thinking it's good The main reason people are interested by of course is because it's ryan johnson that made it Uh, uh, well, sure, but like I thought like I don't know hearty man this like that's that's like some top tier He just don't give him don't let him write like that's that's it. Yep. There's a lot of right It felt really weird that quill decided to leave especially after all the effort you put into save rocket He didn't leave. He's just popping over to earth. I don't understand. I'm very confused Why are we treating this like he's fucking gone to a different universe? He's not he's just over there Uh-huh. It's never made sense to me because like you you could be like, yeah, but he's not he's not going to be an active guardian anymore Why he could be a guardian if rocket was to call him right now? And he said fucking galactus is here and he's doing things like quill you help us. He's like, no, I'm sorry rocket I'm not a guardian anymore I'm on the lawn Don't make any second sense at all sense at all Also cap you talked about it on the forge. I agree with you saying drax earned the dad payoff But is it weird that nebula said it? Hmm Is it weird that nebulae was like the one to recognize it? Because she says drax, you're not a destroyer your dad Like shouldn't should nebulae be the one to say it and should it be said at all? I'm not even sure it should be said or Yeah, or like later. He says his name, but he doesn't say destroyer. He says something else I don't why don't just have him with the kids just do it. Yeah, I don't know if we got to say it I was thinking adding those lines if you gotta have a say it I guess I don't Hello all nice to catch you live. Oh, that's it. All right. Well, all right. Hey, what's up? Hello there Ouch, I kind of feel bad for enjoying it. I knew I couldn't hold a candle to one and two But I didn't expect y'all to give it a three out of ten and they got a crying face Oh, don't feel bad for enjoying it because there are like I don't hate it. It's plenty to enjoy. Yeah There's legitimately a lot to enjoy. That's what makes it so painful that it's bad in a way Yeah, and a lot of the stuff that we picked at um, I can say with confidence at least for myself These are things I didn't even notice at first Yeah, a lot of things I did not notice everything happens so fast with the counterplanet like exit stuff that I was unable to Properly think about where everyone was whatever one was thinking. I was like, this is the way here now This is happening. These are these people are here. These people are okay Um, but then when you slow it down, you're like, holy fuck. How did that even happen? I don't get how it happens because he would have wrote it all, you know Would have wrote it as slowly as we would have been reading the the notes to break it down I just I don't I don't get how he made those mistakes, but um Hey man, you know, I don't think we could have highlighted those like 500 mistakes in the film and then been like, hey This is a great 7 out of 10. You know, it wouldn't make any sense at all Uh, I almost wonder if James gum wasn't trying as hard with this one because he was bitter about being fired combined with his excitement for running the new dceu Sometimes I wonder if we should just stop trying to find some grander reason and just be like maybe I just did a bad job Yeah, you just fucked it up. Um, he wrote it. He thought it was solids and he missed some stuff and you know He's just like, oh shit. Yeah, I guess that is that way. Damn there doesn't have to be some Explanation beyond that I'm I'm fine with the idea that not everybody because I even This happens in the reverse when people are like, wait, this person made something good But we've always known to be bad. Do you think someone else made it or somebody running? It's like could be they just they just made something good this time. That could be it and vice versa, um I'm not sure where my position on james gun as a creator comes to now Like if someone said like the new james gun written in director movies out, what do you expect? I'd be like, oh I have no idea what I expect. I don't know. Yeah It's gotten a bit weird in that department In any case, that's the last one Oh, wow. All right, neat Thank you all for sending in your messages appreciate it. Uh I guess we shall see you next time wherever that may end up being Yeah, we'll see everyone later. Thanks for watching my chat toodaloo