 Hi, this is Debbie Daschinger. Welcome to the Dare to Dream podcast. It's great to have you here and excited as always to be on this journey with you. A little bit later, I'm going to be having my guest here, Rachel Fiori, because she offers people a direct no-nonsense plan to liberating transformation. The Dare to Dream podcast has been nominated for two People's Choice podcast Awards for a Webby Award and is right now a finalist for a Coalition of Visionary Resources Award. And we were featured in Welp Magazine for one of the top 20 best podcasts to listen to this year. So grateful for all of that recognition and for all of you who follow and who write your comments and are on this journey as well. This show is sponsored by Dr. Dane here and Access Consciousness. They do energy work out into the world. So if you'd like to experience it, do a program or become a facilitator, you can go to drdanehere.com or accessconsciousness.com. I'm Debbie Daschinger and I teach entrepreneurs, coaches, and speakers and healers how to write a highly engaging book. And I also take authors books to a guaranteed international bestselling status. And the third leg of the hubability, that's like a new branding for me. I love that out of the mouth of a mistake come something perfect. It's actually a visibility hub, but hubability is pretty good too. But the third leg of my visibility hub is showing entrepreneurs how to be interviewed on radio and podcasts and get massive results. And all of these I've got online programs and of course, there are live ways to work with me privately and in groups. And also have a gift for you. So for those who are ready to get out there and have their voice, their message and their being seen and heard, go to Debbie Daschinger.com slash gift. And it's d e b b i d is in David a c h i n g e r dot com slash gift. So as promised, the question is how can we cut through the spiritual bullshit? Well, Rachel Fiori MSOT CEO of masters of self university is here. And she's a mystical therapist, a spiritual leader, psychic healer and divine mystic. She is the lead professor teaching the mystical life coach certification program with a master of science in occupational therapy, a BA in business corporate communications, a psychic intuitive impact and as a highly sensitive person. Rachel has spent over 23 years empowering individuals, coaches and people around the world to heal their lives and relationships at the sole level. And if you'd like to learn more, go to masters of self university.com. I welcome Rachel Fiori to dare to dream. Great to have you here. Hi, Debbie. Thank you so much. It's such a pleasure to be here with you. Thank you for the invitation. Pleasure. I am so curious, a highly sensitive person, I totally relate to some of those descriptives in your bio. But it can be a lot of work going through the world pretty raw, right, knowing but raw. So how was that journey for you? And how did you get where you are where you can call bullshit sometimes? I think the key that I have found is to you always focus on self healing first. That's it. You focus on self healing. You focus on elevating yourself and getting rid of your own bullshit that you realize you've been conditioned to be to show up as in this world that we're conditioned to show up in a lot of ways as complete bullshit that I have to prove myself. I need the followers. You know, I have to get the recognition or the validation. Those are all egoic programs that we are conditioned to be and live in our false selves. I think when we focus on number one priority is my own self healing to unlock spiritual truths, wisdom from the universe so that I can allow that to flow through me. That's when you can see the bullshit that is really out there and say I don't want to be a part of that anymore. I'd rather be a part of divine truth than nothing less than divine truth. Absolutely. I believe that most seekers that's really what they want and I also know from being a human it can be very hard when you're sitting on top of your own stuff like where do you start to unpack that and know oh this has to be healed or oh this is an identity I'm acting out of. Where did he begin? I'll begin with very simply what am I triggered by throughout my day? Oh wow, that's a good one. What am I triggered by throughout my day? Life will show you every single day in your relationships at work when you're in traffic. Life will show you every single day what needs to be healed and if you are triggered by something you have a little anxiety. That means something is activated inside of you that needs to be seen, validated, understood, and healed so it is no longer a part of how you show up in this world. But life shows you, your relationships show you every single day what needs to be healed. Are you listening? Are you paying attention? Are you avoiding it? What are you doing? Are you taking that divine responsibility to say oh I was a little triggered by this, a little triggered by that, very triggered by that over there. Wow. And if that's the case what are you doing to heal yourself? Because the biggest mistake we make is oh that over there pisses me off that's an injustice. This is not okay. I'm going to focus on everything externally. Oh now you fell into the trap. Now you fell into the trap that you're going to try to change everything outside of yourself instead of first going inside and changing you so you can become a divinely powerful being only from the space inside of your divine power can you then make a ripple effect and change what you see outside in the world. Wow okay so what is your approach then somebody comes to you and says okay Rachel I heard you being interviewed on Debbie Dashinger show and you were talking about triggers and oh boy I have had this pattern over the last couple years and it's not going away. So what is your nobeloni approach so to speak to helping somebody through that to the other side? Yeah I've when I was guided many years ago to create the programs the coaching programs that I've created all of that came from Source from Universe. Here's what you need to do to heal and elevate here's why here's how and it's step by step so the best part is the things that that I offer that my coach my certified coaches offer it's a step by step coaching program for you to see exactly what programs are running but most importantly not just hey I see this pattern over and over say in my relationship for example and we've been to therapy we've gone to therapy for years and we can't we're just stuck in the same place I teach everybody step by step what programs are actually running mental programs emotional programs behavioral programs and your inner child wounds those are the four categories that make up our shadow selves what programs are you running what gets activated inside of you and then we teach you step by step to see the root cause of it because here's the truth we are nothing but energy we are energy our thoughts are energy they're just energetic programs that are running inside of you that's it they got activated there they go doing what they do running their crazy patterns causing you emotional pain emotional programs are just energetic programs that are running so what we teach is step by step first how to identify them but then how to go inside of the energy itself and completely transform that energy meaning that vibrational frequency it's a very simple process when you learn it step by step and you're willing to learn you go inside of the energy of that program the fear of abandonment for example fear of abandonment you learn to identify look at that when my partner says this or my partner does that I get triggered in fear of abandonment makes me act out in anger makes me act out I get sarcastic so you see sarcasm anger is there but what's deeper will the fear of abandonment you then go inside of the fear of abandonment that's trapped in your body and you learn how to alchemize it you learn how to turn transform the piece of coal into the diamond once it's a diamond you transform that energy into something completely different it's permanent it never goes back but it is an energetic process that you have to learn step by step how to do once you do you're free you never run that program ever again it's completely gone well whatever that is I don't even know what that is but I'm just saying as you described it energetically over here I'm getting puddles I'm just like my atoms are yeah they're just in a puddle and I know when that happens the person's legit so whatever it is you are talking about that's incredible I think what's most intriguing to me of course is the fact you don't just go in access it and work with it it becomes a tool for your healing but you're saying it's eradicated it is complete yes to take on a program that's been running you mostly subconsciously and as a reaction to something yes not even present exactly a very big deal very big deal and freeing completely freeing and the best part about it so as as a psycho healer as I'm a psycho energetic healer I see and deal with the energies and people meaning their programs are just energy programs are just frequencies so my gift one of my gifts I can see exactly what is in there what's in your blind spot what's been stuck I can go in and alchemize the energy and it is gone so that's great good for me I can do it anybody who wants it you can find me on my website you can get those healings and that's fabulous but the best part this is better the best part is in our what's so important to me and I'm very passionate about is teaching people how to do this for themselves yeah because that's more important because then you're not reliant on someone else always for your healing you say I can learn how to do this and see my programs and actually transform the energies from the inside out and anybody can learn how to do it as long as you're willing and you're devoted to learning the process you're not going to learn it in five minutes you know we require three months for you to learn how to do all of this in our programs but that's why we require three months in our coaching programs so that you can actually learn how to do this for yourself yeah and I love that you bring up shadow work so I don't want to make an assumption that people know what that means I will just say as a pre caveat that if the world's people would all do shadow work we would not be in most of the positions we are that are causing people so much anxiety and angst because people would become so responsible for cleaning up and knowing my so I'll I'll say my experience of doing it and understanding shadow work I mean there's a a 12 step saying which is every time I point a finger at you I've got three pointing back at myself and so that's to say that where there's judgment where there's criticism where there's something that repeatedly bothers us about someone or people right it's usually the same thing it is actually very much alive in us and we're perpetuating it out into the world but completely unconscious about it so the genius creatures we are we look at other people that's a terrible thing they do they're a gossip or they're a cheat or they're yes whatever fill in the blank and so when you do the work to clean that up oh my gosh the tentacles that go out into the world that get changed it's massive I would love to hear your experience and I'd also love to hear a story about shadow work so if you could address both that would be great sure yeah and I this is my favorite topic because this is everything that we do this is the most important work it's the only work that counts you know I'll say this first that a lot of people out there will say you know just you know positive vibes only just be the light that's not that's not a light worker that's an avoider that's somebody who wants to stay in powerlessness a light worker somebody who goes inside of darkness and transforms darkness into light you can't do that if you don't go into the shadow that's an alchemist yes that's an alchemist exactly and that's what that's understanding that that's what I'm here to do and that's what I'm here to empower other people to do is to become true alchemist because you can you can learn that but you can't do it if you're not willing to see the darkness that you carry inside of yourself and we all carry it until we heal enough where we no longer carry it that says that simple and it is okay that we carry that darkness it is not okay that we do nothing about it it's not okay that we pretend like we don't because the more we turn our heads and look the other way and say oh you know positivity only out there the more we turn our backs on the fact that evil exists and that's we're the ones letting evil and darkness onto the planet and we look out there and point the finger and blame right so going back to our programs and some of the beautiful things that you shared debbie is when we point the finger at everybody else so here's what I teach people so that person over there might be a asshole they might be showing up in a really crappy way they might they really might so we won't deny that because a lot of that exists right very hateful way over there very sexist way very racist way there they are and yet what am I carrying inside because we claim to want to change the world for the better and yet we refuse to let go of our judgment of that person over there I'm no better than that person over there when I am in judgment of that person and where they're at so my job is to see oh look at this I'm angry at that person I'm in judgment I'm actually running a program of superiority I think I'm superior and they're inferior because I think I'm better than them because I don't do what they do and here's what's interesting here's now where we cut through the spiritual bullshit when I'm willing to see myself in that way I actually think I'm better than that person I'm creating the energy of inequality in the world why I'm running the program of inequality because I think I'm superior in this moment and that's where we have to wake up and see so we are mad about inequality in the world and yet I hate the people who are who believe in inequality oh wait a minute if you hate you're contributing to inequality if you're judging them you think you're superior in that moment because you're in judgment judgment always makes the person you're judging inferior to you look at the programs you're running now this right here is true awakening so when I'm willing to see that of myself holy crap I didn't realize I was running inequality programs I'm out here protesting and yet I'm hating the people I'm protesting against that makes me the same as them through awakening is seeing that realizing that and saying I'm not willing to put that out into the world anymore we've had enough of this for thousands of years I'm going to heal myself I am gonna then it doesn't mean don't protest or don't you know stand up against injustice it means do it from the place of divinity not from your hate not from your superiority programs not from the inequality programs that you didn't even know you ran before now that's the work that's the real work and tell us a story of a time when somebody went through this part of your program and something that had been running their life that was actually shadow work was then revealed to them how was it healed what happened after yeah so gosh there's so many to choose from which one should I choose you see one please I actually you know what I'll just share one that just happened today in my I certified coaches my mystical life coach certification program so I was in class teaching with these amazing beautiful souls who are becoming certified in this work and one of my students today showed up and just you know broke down and crying with I'm manipulative I have narcissistic you know tendencies I'm treating my husband horribly and she's just waking up to the programs the behavioral programs that she's running whereas before she couldn't see what she was doing and she's been doing this work because in my in the certification program you have to go through it first and heal first you don't you don't work with other people and call yourself coach if you haven't first healed this stuff and done the shadow work yourself and that's part of the program and so going through this because of that she's really awakening to a lot of the very scary and ugly programs that she doesn't want to have and in her beautiful vulnerability she was able to just call out all of the programs that she's running that a lot of people wouldn't want another soul on the planet to know that was a part of who they are we all like to wear masks and put and let everybody think that we're just magical and mystical and wonderful all the time right so we wear our masks she took all the masks off and she just showed them to everybody and it was a beautiful very vulnerable moment and there was her biggest shift in in healing what was really there because she was willing to see it she was willing to own it and the beautiful part about that is we were able to go much deeper in the healing where she could see that there was just this wounded little girl that had a massive mother wound mom used to be very horrible to her and abusive and when that then opened up she was able to go inside and heal that little girl and start to free and empower that little girl to no longer be a broken powerless little girl who has to show up mean and nasty to keep herself safe she doesn't need to be that anymore so there's your shift into true authentic transformation and emotional freedom wow and so in your groups you'll track her going forward and see how she's doing yeah absolutely and maybe absolutely thank you letter from her husband I wouldn't be surprised yeah that's beautiful that's like especially in relationships you know it's very very interesting and I'm hard for many people to stay together you you yourself Rachel grew up in very interesting circumstances and yet what's I find fascinating about you is you took a stance and you said well I have options but I am damn not going to become a victim which is pretty amazing so talk about what happened to you growing up and how did you make these really definitive choices that became who you turned into today yeah so it's you know I grew up with a very very abusive bipolar out of control step father and you know just the typical what you think of abuse a tremendous amount of psychological mental emotional verbal abuse sometimes physical you know witnessed it against my mom and my sister the whole nine and nothing you ever did was good enough and I just had that you know my first shift into true awakening was at 13 when I learned very early on oh I just have to be better so as a people please I just have to be better I have to be you know little misperfectionist I have to get better grades I have to do better in my sports and then he'll tell me I did a good job so I was trying to get that you know validation from this abusive terrible man very broken man and at 13 I realized when I had worked really hard I got a B on my report cards of course I'm grounded for that and I'm stupid and all that verbal abuse that came with it and I worked really hard to pull that grade up to get an A and when he came home and I was like there I'm gonna hand on my report card and I was in my living and walking up at his face waiting to see this is how sad waiting to see the expression of approval on his face like you did it you did a good job and instead I saw the face change which I knew the abuse was coming so that instant it was that fight flight or freeze I knew I was gonna get it and you know very confusing because I got an A and it was this is an A minus it doesn't even count as an A and there comes the curse words and the yelling and I literally had an out-of-body experience it was like my soul just left my body and for a minute I was like kind of behind and above us slightly just watching and I had the biggest epiphany oh my god this has nothing to do with me this is not about me at all none of this is about Rachel this is about him his programs this is his brokenness you know he's he's projecting all of that onto me but this is not personal and it was like a thousand pounds of weight just lifted off of my shoulders and I I've never been the same since that moment because it was never again I need to get validation from another human being never it was just I don't have to do anything I do all of my successes how hard I work if I got another B or if I got a hundred percent it doesn't that's for me that's for me I never again did it I didn't give a shit what he thought after that I didn't need the approval and that was the first real big kickstart to what led me to what I do today understanding it's other people's programs they need to heal why do we take it so personally when someone else is broken and you were gifted from the time you were very young yeah always was that that's usually hard for kids because you don't have a place to go talk about it or be that out in public friends it was really hard it was really hard it was very lonely it was very confusing I couldn't understand why people couldn't see what I could see or know what I knew but you know it's right there why can't you just see that I never understood and then you just feel weird and alone and you know I was very popular I had a lot of friends but boy did I feel on the outside it looks great but I was very desperately lonely on the inside because I could not understand why other people didn't understand but if you do that this is going to happen it was a premonition I didn't know the word premonition I would warn people don't do that because you're really going to get hurt I mean I've even predicted oh I'm starting dating this new guy I really can't wait to see what you think and I meet him and I'm like get away he's going to hurt you he is really going to hurt you need to get away right now I think you might be safe if you just leave him now of course they ignore and don't listen they find out he's a little bit of a psycho and then when she broke up with him finally he showed back up and barged through her door and raped her and I had told you know it's that kind of stuff that I didn't understand you don't understand I see him really physically harming you like you have to get away now you're in danger and I could never understand at the time why people just didn't listen like it sounds so silly but I didn't why aren't you just listening to what I'm telling you to do or not do and I could never understand that they couldn't see that too because it was so innately a part of who I was so yeah it was it was a hard road it was very lonely and nobody can relate to you so it was a long it's been a lonely journey and now this is what you do and all the people come to you for yeah very gift isn't that life is so wild in that way it's interesting to go through the wound to access that it's your gift exactly and now you're in a relationship you're married and I know because I've seen you say very nice things about him and I think it's also interesting to come from such a dysfunctional place and yet be able to create a relationship that works for you and supports you and is functional was that a journey or yes yes it was an incredible journey very rough one and it's you know in learning what it really means when you're awakening learning when someone else they're just running their programs too and they're in their brokenness and their woundedness and understanding to see people now to not meet my own my needs it's part of what I teach you know in our relationship coaching it's like you have to stop believing all the crap out there that says your partner should meet your need no they shouldn't you're not a child you learn to meet your own needs and then you can authentically and with unconditional love see and meet your partner for where they are but it was it was rough for me because I'm so incredibly sensitive to do the psychic healings and the things that I do for people it is a tremendous amount on the on the physical body a lot of people don't understand that it it takes a lot and you have to really love yourself in order to care for yourself and do what you need to do to recover and nurture and have balance and all of that I'm very blessed with my life partner now because the more I do this work for people and the more demanding it can be at times he just picks up the other the other areas he just takes over the cooking and the grocery shopping and this and that because he's like you need to recover you have a lot of clients or you have it's a beautiful it's a beautiful balance but boy did I go through some horrific men running horrific programs to learn how to stand into my power to say no this is what I need to function for my sole mission and it is okay if you don't want to meet me there but we can't be together then so I had to learn the hard way like a lot of people how to stand in my power set the boundaries say no but do it with love not with judgment and that's the trick and is that what you mean I know one of the things you talk about is rescuing relationships from their own demise do you have any sage advice about that yeah a lot of times we think when things are rough in a relationship or you're triggering each other you're not getting along oh that I was wrong you know she's really not the one he's really not the one we should get divorced so we should we should break up and a lot of times that is just not the case it it's not it's surprising if you just are willing to do the deep work how much love and compassion you can create in that relationship and power just divine power and and the beauty of it too is if you're willing to do the real work there are some relationships that they really are meant to then go separate ways but the difference is you heal first and you actually separate with love you separate with more love than you ever had and you separate with support and you wish nothing but the best for that person from a really loving loving place and you separate on such beautiful terms so a lot of times people will come like hey we need some help we're going to get a divorce you know but we don't want to hate each other can we have help going through it and I help people actually separate in some of my programs and the funny thing is they come in with the intention of getting a divorce and they end up staying together and being more madly in love than ever before but it's part of that because Rachel you can see I don't know what else to call it but a matrix of sorts that you can literally see two people and that karma and their connections no no you guys are not done yeah this is this relationship is truly meant to be or you can see no this was what it was for the time and you're ready to move on you can see all that I can see all that yeah I can see all that I can see the possibilities and the other things and I've seen another just to to add to that a little bit I've also seen in certain people you better heal this right now because I see the next one coming it's going to be uglier than this one because you're not learning your lessons and I've seen it play out exactly like that exactly like that like three four years from now you are so going to regret if you go down this path do the work heal it now and then you know there's never judgment never ever ever am I in judgment with people that this is your life experience you do whatever you need or want to learn from it there's up to you but I've also seen that where no they just continued down the same path they didn't want to listen to the guidance and that's okay that's absolutely fine but then three four years later they're they're in a mess because they're like I shouldn't have gotten remarried I shouldn't have gone I shouldn't have done any of the things that I did I see it now but that's also what that soul needed to get to that place they weren't ready to listen they needed they weren't ready to take the easy way of awakening they needed to take the hard way and that's okay too that's okay too I don't wish that on anybody but I mean we do have favorable choice yes yeah yeah who is the gal who does these tiktok videos of you do you know what I'm talking about that I'm researching you and this I'm not even I don't know her name she's an Asian gal and she does it's hilarious and you're there disseminating all this wisdom in her little being pops in like you know it does something and pops back out do you know her oh yes absolutely she's amazing so Ellie Lee hello I'm going to give a shout out to her Ellie Lee is my social media liaison at Masters of Self University okay and she also is currently getting certified as a mystical life coach at Masters of Self University and she is one of the most incredible amazing beings on the planet so of course I think everybody should go on Instagram and tiktok and follow Ellie Lee because she's amazing yeah okay good I'm glad you know her because otherwise well it's amazing promotion the way she does it it's very entertaining I have to I have to admit I watched a couple of them and so we're talking about you know pain sucks basically hard times suck nobody really wants that in their life although hello we are all going to go through it yeah and even when we have it all together and we've done all the work it's still going to come that's still amazing this day yes it's like a country I've done it why do I have to do it again this week it don't follow so when someone is given the path here is the fire of a difficult time and they say I choose to heal I'm a seeker I'm not going to sit on this and I know that the soul's positive evolution actually comes when I walk through the fire yes not around it so suffering pain do all of these things have the same components to them or are they actually independent pieces they do not have the same components pain and suffering are two completely different things pain often leads to suffering but suffering is just chronic unhealed pain so that again suffering is just chronic unhealed pain okay that's it so pain is always going to be a part of our lives the human experience your soul having this human experience you will have pain in your life that's part of the human experience and my my go-to for that example is the person you love the most I don't care if it's a child if it's a partner who do you love the most they died tomorrow you're not going to then be shouting out positive vibes only then are you no you're going to be in your pain because that's painful right so that is an example of having pain you go through something very painful loss of a loved one however suffering is the grief lasts for 10 12 20 30 years and you're still going to counseling why because you're not actually healing the pain now you're in suffering so pain doesn't have to turn into suffering how does it not turn into suffering we learn to love ourselves through our pain how much nurturing and love do we give to our pain when we have it versus coping avoiding you know using coping strategies pretending like oh but somebody has it so much worse than me we don't know how to honor our pain going into our pain and honoring our pain when it's there is loving it while it's there and then it never sticks around it's only ever temporary pain is only temporary here's an interesting question I was recently told it's not quite pain but I was recently told somebody was channeling for me and I trust the source very much and they were basically saying you know you expend a lot of energy we see how much you work and I've been told this before and I know it it's not a huge surprise but they I'm going through a particular hopefully the upswing side of healing right now on a couple of levels and they were saying we want you to be still nature quiet and I hear these words and of course I comprehend these words but I actually have no idea on some level what does that mean to be still and I don't know if you know but too what does that mean that I just sit there and I look out a window do I go out in the backyard in the patio and just breathe do I like it's actually such a strange anomaly this idea of stillness I mean I could take something and get there I could just I've been I could you know facilitate but to just be me and have that stillness that I can feel what they're talking about it feels quite outside of me right right right yes beautiful so where here's where I start it's learning when I try to be quote unquote still would I really know what that means or not noticing what programs are running when I'm trying to be still so what does that mean you start with mental programs well your mind is going to start to tell you something right now because the mind is never quiet the mind is like never still right so the first part of it is what is my mind saying about this right now and you just pay attention because our minds are batshit crazy crazy our mental programs are so crazy but if we stop and really pay attention for a little bit at a time and say oh my god my mind is saying this right now that is just that's crazy and you write down what are your mental programs in this moment and then the next part of it is I teach people how to drop in and connect to their heart space and what does it mean to connect I take you through a process you drop into your heart and it's literally your heart chakra not that anybody has to call it that doesn't matter you just go to your heart center center of your chest and you start to breathe in one exercise for some people it helps to imagine this golden white spark that is in the center of their chest and focus on that spark and just start to grow that light throughout your chest and as you do that you feel it you can feel what that feels like so the best of your ability what are you starting to feel in your chest as you grow that light yeah I'm going to tell you I didn't feel it in my mental uh exactly monkey thoughts my mental thoughts are like this is bullshit I am bored what can I should be doing something of so much to do and as soon as you drop me into this golden heart space light this is a trip yeah unbelievable that was so simple total presence there you go ease and there you go nothing else really there you go that's it it's right there and then what'll happen is your mind will start to take over those are the mental programs kicking back and when the mind takes over say oh look at you join in the party aren't you cute uninvited that's okay we welcome all guests here and you breathe and you drop back in and you connect to the heart and you just breathe and you literally focus on feeling the physical sensations of that energy because that right there is the key and you'll feel it as people can describe it as warm or gentle or calming and there's a lot of other different words everybody's a little different but whatever that feels like for you it's okay let me breathe and now let me make that more powerful just expand and then you're growing it throughout your entire body and there you're connected to your heart center that's it that's illness that's presence that's how simple it is and then my mind says so what do I do do I stay here for five or 15 minutes like this if it feels good to you you can but the real the next step to this would be oh look I'm triggered by something I'm a little agitated I'm a little irritated one of my programs is running oh let me stop and drop into my heart grow my light grow my heart energy for a moment and then I say oh look at this program of judgment came up I'm totally judging that person now I'm going to connect to my heart and I'm going to bring my heart energy to the judgment and I'm going to embrace the judgment that I feel that I am that I'm pointing my finger at that person I'm going to drop in I'm going to grow the energy of my heart centeredness and I'm going to embrace my own judgment and when you bring heart centeredness to your program of judgment or you know shame or fear whatever program got a little bit triggered anxiety I drop in connect grow I bring my heart centeredness that's your divinity I bring that to the anxiety I bring that to the fear or whatever might have been triggered and it has no choice but to start to dissolve there's alchemy right there happening yeah that's gold that's beautiful yeah thank you you're one of the driving forces I want to do this because I have a feeling a lot of people relate to this and I want to really be able to give the listeners something here so one of the driving forces for me is I guess I I know you teach this so it stuck out to me creating a life I don't know if it's fully force but I know how to roll up my sleeves and you know make something happen right and you talk about creating our life from power yes and I understand your intention like there you mean potency right not power over better potency right so that's what fuels me often and probably too many projects all the time and a lot of creativity so how does one funnel away from a force they may be used to using and instead go into a flow and a potency that must be also universally driven somehow it's it's 100% universally driven that's what that's what it means to be in power versus force force we want to make it happen I want this I don't have it yet I need to have it happen and that's forcing forcing forcing and that forcing is you may achieve it you may not you may get sick while you achieve it you might run yourself so rag it you might you know separate in your relationship because your partner can't handle it whatever that's coming from force when you're coming from power that is the universe working through you you're the vessel for the universe for stores for your higher self to work through you become the vessel for the universe to move through and create through okay that's the shift to get there it's taking it you know in bite-sized pieces step by step learning that well if I'm in wanting I'm in woundedness if I'm in wanting I'm in wounding so what do I want what do I want a lot of people teach like what do you want what do you want it's like oh careful it doesn't mean don't get clear doesn't mean don't get clear on things you want to create you want a successful business or you want to create this or that it doesn't mean don't get clear but when you are in wanting you're coming from I can't have it I don't have it what programs are running if you're in wanting of something I'm going to force it to I gotta make it happen that means you're in a program of powerlessness number one number two you're running a program of lack of trust lack of trust in the universe you're not connected to the universe when we're doing that it's this is beautiful what do you want to create through me is the real question what do you want to create through me and what the universe will do is say oh there you are we've been waiting for you we've been waiting for you to show up and ask what do you want to create through me and then what the universe will do it'll put all these little tests to show you the programs the woundedness the unhealed stuff you have to clear that out of the way well that has to be cleared out of the way before the universe can really use you efficiently as a vessel right so we have all our blocks and our unhealed stuff in the way and like but I want this oh but you're too broken to handle it isn't that funny we don't realize a lot of times we're too unhealed and broken to handle the very thing we want we're not powerful yet enough to handle it which is why we have our midlife crisis and we get divorced and we you know we fall apart and we have chronic fatigue and all that nonsense that we get instead of oh divine timing isn't that part it's called divine for a reason divine timing for a reason right so it's what do you want to create through me and then who do I need to become in order to deliver that thing who do I need to become so if I have to become really powerful in myself and heal myself to a certain level and that means that I can then help the world why would I not do that and as soon as I do that the universe says oh you're ready here we go and everything just floods in it just comes to you it comes to you the universe will tell you what it wants from you are you willing are you willing to be that or you want to still function from the little ego that says I want something different yeah and you know it's really interesting listening to you because it occurs to me that comes full circle in order to create our life from power we need to be still yes we need to have that emptiness and that no thought no thing yes for the universe to show up and even guide us or communicate you've got it magnificent that is exactly it and the funny thing is when you just trust and listen okay here's my guidance telling me to do this or to create that or to let go of that over there and what do we do we go right on our mind but why why I need my checklist I need my pros and cons I need to understand everything I don't have to understand everything I do not understand certain things when my guidance comes through I just say really I might be a little I might be a little pissed off that you want me to do that right now oh give us an example what what when did you get a download like that you're like you're all right what am I supposed to do with that yeah okay uh my my mystical life coach certification program I was like okay like in around six months sometime in the next year I'm going to start to create that is an incredible amount of work I knew the amount of work that had to go into that so in my mind I had it planned out this is what I was going to do and when I was going to start it I was going to take on three coaches this is incredibly deep work powerful work I was going to train and certify three coaches and once I had three coaches I would then decide okay now we're going to put this out to the world oh no it came crashing through create this right now and I was like what now and I was like and I'm looking at my calendar and they're like no you don't understand stop what you're doing because I'm looking at the weeks to come the months to come stop what you're doing stop creating the program I was recording a digital court stop and it was you do this instead it's time and I was like oh no what I created it and then I had in my mind I was going to certify three just three I got the first three in my first class everything was perfect 29 30 more 27 more came I think it was 27 I think I had 30 I guess and it was they just all flooded in so fast none of it would I had not planned anything that way and I just laughed I'm like oh this is what you want me to do okay I get it that's why you wanted to create this early instead of a year from now got it I just listen if I'm told to stop what I'm doing and start creating that instead I just listen and never is there a oh shit I shouldn't have listened to the universe never never it's thank goodness I know better and I know to listen to the universe thank goodness so I guess it worked out you had 27 more people show up and maybe everything wasn't as perfect or in places you wanted but they got what they needed and the classes still exist oh with amazing and it's and more I mean I'm almost filled up for January 2023 class at this point I mean they're just it was created like I said divine timing doesn't come from us you know I had a whole another year I was going to wait to do it and the universe and then you stop what you're doing do it right now create it now they're coming okay so I will that's amazing I had that happen with my second book I had written a book I mean I I'm sure it was almost 80 percent complete and I literally got this download that's not the book like what do you know what it takes to write a book no here's what we're gonna do and I'm like and I thank god I just rolled with it I mean it became I'm so proud of the second book I actually never published the other one it's somewhere on my hard drive yeah yeah it was what was meant to be birthed I was just I was just the doula hanging out and waiting for the universe to give me my marching orders you know what people needed I guess to read at that time that is beautiful I you know I'll share one more story because that that's I love that I actually channelled a book um my my dog died my soul companion just my my baby he died and the very next morning as I'm crying hysterically after having to put him to sleep and it was go get your laptop and I was like oh f you you are crazy I'm crying there's snot coming out not okay like this is me nurturing and loving my grief and I got such a hard push get your laptop and that's when the universal ways of oneness just channeled through one at a time 20 universal ways of oneness and it's one of the things I'm here to teach the world and it came through the not even 24 hours after my mason died and I was crying all over I'm like I'm gonna have to buy a new laptop this is gonna short circuit I don't know how you expect me to do this and it's just now's the time understand what his life with you and his death really meant and it just all the universal ways of oneness flowed through and that's when I channeled that book oh that's beautiful that's such a great story I got goosebumps listening to that god bless dogs I know one of the things you talk about Rachel and thank you for this story so much and those insights you talk about soul contract and I love stuff like that you know and I've read books where people like channel and they can somehow go to some level and of course it's all right here anyway but I'll call it a level to distinguish it and they actually have a conversation with your over soul and all the people who agreed to be playing these crazy parts in your life and so forth so we have free will and choice we all know that but then there's also this thing called a soul contract so yeah how does that come into play in somebody's life and how do you know how do we know oh no this is me I get to choose or no this is kind of going down because that's why I'm here that's what I yeah that's I'd love this too I love this topic as well I'm happy that you brought it up so our soul contracts are there in order to of course a lot of people know it work out karma but it's it goes even deeper than that it's what is this soul in front of you meant to offer to you and we don't think about that a lot of times when we have a terrible experience or you know abuses there for example so I'll go back to the story I already shared and give you an example and in my own personal life it's you know when my father died when I was very young and the step dad that came in I mean he was terrible he was really abusive he was a horrible person and all of the abuse that I got from him I remember going off to college saying there's no way I'm not eft up from this there's no way like you can't go through this and not be eft and that just made a vow to myself I'm going to heal myself from this see where I'm messed up and I'm going to heal that and in that heal in the healing process of making that vow to myself I just saw that I was so sensitive so psychic all the gifts I have I was a very gentle soul and being with somebody who was so harsh with somebody who's so sensitive yes I had to learn to stand in my power and use my voice even when I was afraid even when threatened even when triggered into you know fear or fight flight or freeze because your survival is threatened like you have to learn how to stand in your power and that is even more important for people who are very very sensitive for us impacts and you know HSPs and we have to learn something from that so even though that experience I wouldn't wish that on on anybody you know but at the same time I knew that it was meant for me it didn't happen to me it happened for me so my divine responsibility with that soul contract with that man coming into my life is you were here for me you know when I'm in my woundedness I might not be able to see why but that's the number one job of going in and healing yourself first and foremost always if I heal from this I can learn from this what was meant for me and I was meant to see that as terrible as he was to me as abusive as he was to us he was running programs what are programs mental emotional behavioral inner child wounds what are those that led me to the work that I do and empower people with and free people with and heal people with today that was for me that didn't happen to me that was a gift it was a horrific one but inside of every gift there was a lesson every inside of every human experience there's a lesson to be learned and if you learn that lesson you become the gift yourself to then offer that to other people so almost victim consciousness our soul contracts are there they are there for you even if they're really scary or terrible or unpleasant experiences they're still for you when you have these epiphanies and you're recognizing oh okay this was actually meant to be I had to go through that I made some great choices to heal and because I did the work I come out the other side and I have what it takes now to help people in this regard so thank you wouldn't want to do that again but thanks for the lesson as you're you're out and even today I don't know if your stepfather is still alive when he was and you had come to the other side of this experience what was your relationship then like with him if any I haven't had one since I was a teenager I haven't had one but I can tell you energetically I moved through there's no such thing as unforgiveness or resentment or hate or anything like that so the relationship is a beautiful one in the sense that I don't carry any negativity with inside of myself and that is the only relationship that ever really matters is the one you have with yourself because the relationship you have with yourself is the relationship you offer to everybody else in the world whether you realize it or not who's saying more about that I like that yeah so it's we often when we're in relationships it could be friendships or romantic it doesn't matter it's whatever relationship I have with myself if I love and nurture myself through my grief for example okay I gave an example a few minutes ago my dog types crying I'm in grief if I don't know how to love and nurture myself through that I don't have the ability to love and nurture someone else through their grief I can't be to someone else what I haven't first become for myself there's your true definition of what self love is is that I can offer you maybe selflessness but not be a doormat how can I do that well because I learned what the true power of love is and love is an aspect of oneness which means it doesn't exclude me it doesn't exclude anyone from the equation so if I love myself I can love you if I can love you I can love all because I love myself you see so what I can offer someone else is because I offer that to me so where are you headed what what is next for you I'm sure you've been through some changes over the last couple of years uh caused by the pandemic and all the interesting things going on in the world what are you next year to dream Rachel what are your future dreams and goals so we have so many things on the pipeline coming down the pipeline at masters of self university there's a special being filmed for me in august there is um we're creating our first annual masters of self university expo will happen on october 2023 we've just released our podcast there are so many things I have amazing certified mystical life coaches that are seeing clients for our one-on-one coaching programs I mean it is endless I could go on and on there's may 21st is a live psychic healing session that I have it's a virtual one for now um but there's a live psychic healing session on may 21st if anybody wants to sign up and show up for that I heal everybody that shows up and where is that where did they go they can go to masters of self university dot com and and go under events and and sign up you can get your ticket um there are so many things and they keep being created and handed to me and it's just to help all of you who are ready to be helped so I am the servant here for the universe and it always guides me to to create and be what I meant to be for everybody else do you have a ritual do you have something that you do daily that keeps you grounded and healthy um one of the things that I make sure I do uh I work out very hard five days a week I also what does that mean you can't just it was a workout hard what are you doing um oh my goodness I do a lot of circuit training lift weights and I do a lot of inverted training a lot of upside down handstand kind of crazy stuff that helps keep my body for me in balance um so I do that and I balance the working out and the rest with I work usually seven days a week but it's around when I need to rest when I need to go to the gym when I need to create the balance so I just I do that that is the main goal and I stay very hydrated very hydrated water only no alcohol that kind of thing okay kudos what uh what would you like to tell the listeners here at the end is there anything we didn't cover or places where they can find you and follow you um sure uh you can you can follow me on instagram go to mastersofselfuniversity.com because that's our website and you can check out all of our coaches and me um rachel underscore fiori on instagram you can follow me there and on tiktok i'm kind of everywhere um but I think the the most beautiful thing that we've launched just last week was our masters of self university podcast so you can go to spotify and apple podcast or the website and just check us out and let us help you if you're if you want help and if you just want to browse that's okay too we embrace everybody nice thank you so much for the work you do and for sharing all of that with us and all of what's possible if we do the work thank you so much for having me it's such a pleasure thank you debbie I end today's show with this quote from Alexandria Ocasia Cortez I am experienced enough to do this I am knowledgeable enough to do this I am prepared enough to do this I am mature enough to do this I am brave enough to do this welcome to life subscribe to this number one transformation conversation dare to dream with debbie dashinger thank you for your comments I read all of them and next week on the show I am featuring once again dr steven greer he will be here and dare to dream to talk about all things UFO and what is galactically new if you are listening to us on podcast and you'd like to see myself and my amazing guest I suggest you do the animated version is awesome go to youtube.com debbie dashinger and remember don't just dare to dream dare to turn all your dreams into your reality and you can start by using the presence exercise Rachel gave us and some of the check-in shadow work if you should be triggered