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Yo, he country is hell He with that pimping man He from Jackson, Mississippi This one of my newest favorite rappers in the world, man You know I'm saying like when I when I come out on stage on on the netflit I might have to you when I do that netflit special I think I might have to go ahead and goddamn get Ikeem. I lead to bring me out, bro So without further ado, yo, give it up for one of the heavyweight rappers of the world Ikeem Ali Let's go Let's go I said, what's up boy? That ain't nothing to it, but to do it man. Yo, thank you for coming to the show last minute man Thank you for having you could have been anywhere in the world, bro Are you I mean because I know you don't tool right now doing your thing man always got some famous shit going on Man, you you you you the trap jumping like a motherfucker Right where I'm supposed to be man, bro. It's like that as a matter of fact That is that is man. So, you know Jackson Jackson, Mississippi. Yeah Come on, bro. You know Jackson, Mississippi been on the map for like the last couple of years Man dm came down there. You know setting it off. You know neon dm prime time when you first heard the news What did you say, sir? I was happy. I was excited for it. You know, I'm not really a sports fan But I was just happy for what it was going to bring to the city I'm the same way. Yeah Same way my hand. I coordination ain't really all that I can dig it. Yeah It is what it is Oh Yeah, yeah, so that means you didn't play sports easy. You always knew you was gonna be entertaining, bro I ran track Really? Yeah cross country in high school. Okay. That's what's up, bro Yeah Wow Man, did you want to go pro? Uh, you know, it was just a recreation. No, I knew I wanted to rap since like fifth grade 10 fifth grade You was one of them niggas that was at lunch there got damn beaten on the table and shit drawing barcimps and some stuff Yeah, that yeah, we was beaten on the table, but it was in class and shit though Did did did did so, you know, you in the lunchroom doing your thing, you know, everybody pulling out the dopest freestyle and You know, I can already tell right now. You was above average Yeah, I used to rap other niggas songs when I was there a little when I was like Say the same thing when I was like third or fourth grade. I used to rap other four songs I didn't write my first rap until I was fifth grade Really? Yeah, get out of here. I didn't know how to like Okay, you know I'm saying and I just kind of like mimic what I heard And every time I try to freestyle. I'm like, yeah, this shit don't sound like what they sound like Yeah, but I was fifth grade. I wrote my own song So with that being said that that means you was like when you mimicking that mean you study in You're doing what's comfortable and it's trying to find your voice Because that's like the basis of all basis of all learning like when you a baby You start mimicking behaviors you mimic what people say, you know, I'm saying it's how you learn a language Did I want to learn the language? I had to mimic it first and then you know Getting to my own little groove, but you ain't just rapping though. You you also talented that you're singing And would you would you say you was a singer also? I started practicing when I was younger too like third grade Um, I just kind of taught myself how to do all this shit, man. Really? Yeah, you self-taught. Yeah So what where the sauce come from man? Where where where the pimping come from? You gotta be in you're not on you. I heard what you say I see what you did the mac is in the building. I can't tell you where it came from It's just sprouted out of nowhere. Okay. Okay. Do you remember what your first rap name was? Lil A Yeah, I drew on a t-shirt and everything like I used to draw when I was in elementary Nick thought you were alvin in the chipmunks I had drew on a shirt with a little pen and everything and put a little a on there and I'm like, yeah, fuck with me Wow What grade this is fifth grade fifth grade little a I wrote my first rap then I wrote like two or three other songs after that Do you hold on? I always add people there. What was your first round? I wrote it. I wrote it to chris brown's pop and beat I wrote it because back then you didn't have like instrumentals and they said we had like the cds chris brown had just came out too It's like oh five That was back when he had they got down Maybe but it might have come I think I might have dropped no five, but I know for a fact You know what it was it was Um, he came out with run it first, you know five. Okay, but by the time poppy came out Man, that should have me in a chokehold. I'm to my son Girl, what your name is Yeah, that picture Yeah, that picture girl You knew you wanted her. Oh, yeah for sure So you was you were rapping you were you rapping for ladies or you were just rapping for you You know I'm saying like man listen. No, I was Uh jacked up off that wane and boosty especially boosty boosty was like shout out to boosty. Shout out the way like my I probably used to wish boosty was my fucking stepdad is some shit like really We love boosty. We love boosty Wow, I mean nothing like it man, if it wasn't Wayne, it was boosty most of the time like Shot out the boosty boosty You boosty used to come through Mississippi goddamn terrorizing, right? Yeah boosty was like in Mississippi all the fucking time like It was as big as market. You'll see him like you saw him in like bad rules or some shit And like he was just down there. He was had a lot of ties down there and stuff like Mississippi I can't speak for no other state, but I know Mississippi adopted boosty like you know what I'm saying like he was from there 100% 100% hold on but I skipped over though, man. What was it? Give me give me about two bars off your first I get a whole thing now We got a real nigga in here a real nigga's in the building. Hey rex a real nigga's in the building I remember it verbatim like I was in the verbato. I wrote this in the field grade. I said Uh, a nigga surprised when I opened my trunk because I'm killing the game with my pistol grip pump I hate the creep with a tech on my side and a bulletproof vest when I ride I gotta prove to these niggas that I ain't planning everything be true that I'm saying if you come up me wrong Homie, you better repent. You think I'm a back down. Shit. You got me bent I was raised in a ghetto by crooks and killers when niggas be teaching me how to be a drug dealer See why I'm out here trying to get rich before dying a lot of little niggas out He ain't trying and all I rock is diggers in your bowl still tipping on folks throwing bowls Yeah, you niggas out here. He ain't appreciating my dedication and communication with anticipation now you hate And that was That was literally the first rap I ever fucking wrote Yeah, and I didn't have and I didn't have a tech nine or I didn't have no diggers or your bowls We were pausing we were pausing motherfucker, but when I saw boosted rock done to bowl boy You can tell me I went like, you know If you find a fifth in here, I'm pussy When he said that I had a five dollars, you find a quarter in this motherfucker. I'm pussy Throwing five dollars on the ground picking it back up and throwing them bitches to back down there. Oh Shit, man. God damn man. That shit was violent in the motherfucker. It was but that was like what I was listening to That's all they talked about. So I was like, what did your mama say when she heard you say that? 18 of my mama and raised my butt shit Didn't nobody know about it, but like my partner in them I used to wrap that shit to them. So they thought I was like, you know Hard as a motherfucker. Yeah, fuck with me. You let me know My shit was super garbage when I was in fifth grade But you know what's crazy though, like that's harder than some shit I wrote when I actually decided to start writing and rapping like really That's he's showing off. I was like 11 years old when I wrote that shit It was it was a good look now that I think back on it like to be 11 and the right something like that. I'm like, damn. I actually knew some words I was misplacing some of the motherfuckers, but I knew some words. I never had a chance Man, this is what I was doing. This is what I was doing, bro Tell me tell me what level I was on right here. Let me hear hit the bitch in the job Ted hold don't break the law. Ted hold this shit real then ask the whole just how she feel about shit Who she think she fucking with I told the bitch. I ain't the one now ask is she having fun? It was um now now he was listening to trick daddy And uh, 36 I was tricking myself. Yeah That's what you were doing. Yeah, damn. You need to get kicked right up out the side. No, but you I hope you wasn't you wrote that I would probably like like eight nine. That's good. Oh, okay. That's good. I'm gonna be honest. I'm gonna be honest But you know, you a lot of a lot of people from back then and this ain't like no shade From a technical standpoint. They really couldn't like Rap rap. They just rhyme words together so fucking good and the beats were so hard. We just went for it I think you just did that you just we went for it. You shitted on it. You definitely didn't reflect on that I ain't gonna, no it's No, it's that some people are hard, but I'm like some of that should I be listening to it now like And people do this all the time and this ain't no shade but like people get a sip the shock of hell Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on Niggas get a sip the shock of hell dawg like Hey bruh, sip the shock of I think once again, they do give him a hand. I'm gonna say if you're gonna say something other than what I'm saying That's why you wrote what you wrote What you saying No, I'm saying like You listen to that shit them niggas used to be rapping like two verses at the same time like on a beat I'm like, damn All right, can you pick what you want me to hear? Hey silk. This is what he said Hey, you hear you hear this nigga, man. Don't hey silk Is all of them respect, please don't jump on my head. Will you do a song with silk though, right? Yeah, I'll do a song with just about anybody Fuck He learned to stay on beat his cave was a little erratic But this ain't nothing that he didn't probably already know or that he ain't heard nobody said he said he did it on purpose though And you know what if he did it on purpose kudos He's he accomplished It's some people who know like You hear niggas like walk a flock and say I was not a rapper like I don't know how to fucking rap And it's just like he learned how to rap like walk a flock. I knew he couldn't rap But the beats were so hard and he had so much energy. It's just like shit. Why not and then they're gonna listen to it too So, yeah, don't know a little baby documentary He was like, yeah, he was not a rapper when he first came out and he grew like exponentially And you hear it like you hear niggas getting on beats and just like I'm gonna try this shit out And if they gonna fuck with it, I'm gonna keep pushing that button Hey bruh, you see you know what y'all your your class From little baby to you and y'all y'all had real good support since niggas used to get on us hard. I mean like Niggas had like lower myself esteem about rapping because the way you talking right now You making me feel like I could have did that shit if I would have just kept calling. Yeah, you can I ain't you talking about still to this daddy. Yeah You give it another go I mean shit, that's how you feel And I tell people now is literally I be want to tell people like this trash or this ain't like gonna do it Bruh, you can't do that now. They literally say anything get away with murder now. Yeah. Yeah, like I'm and this ain't no shade She was telling the truth, but my pussy pink my booty whole brown. I'm like A pussy might be pink and her booty hole might be brown But never would I have thought we would be singing some shit I got mad This this was so crazy. I'm singing it like my pussy pink. Yeah I'm like Wait a minute She had you singing this shit. It's just like we don't know what the fuck to like. We just like what we know Yeah, and as long as it's going like we're gonna sing it right everybody on like we're gonna sing it. Yeah Yeah, Stephanie. I call it heffany. I didn't I didn't even know a stephanie at the time I'm just like You know what I'm saying whatever is popular whatever it's going heffany Heffany, I start calling bitches name britney heffany Just because I call it heffany, right Wow Wow, they tricked us bruh They tricked us back. Yo, I gave up to make that that won't go man. Like you could just I'm flinging dingaling and bling bling and they're gonna be like Ha ha ha ha ha Flinging you Bro, don't get down on it and tell you come on now. How you gonna do it if you really don't want to dance. Shit. Am I standing on a wall? Hey, man, um, you know Um ladies y'all been listening to know I can't believe y'all I don't know if this y'all first time Uh, yo, christy, this is is your first time my first time today First time to you I love that for y'all. Okay, but board needs your first time Y'all always virgin y'all always a king molly virgin I pop some cherries in here with that being said, you know from from from this way coming all the way back down How did you feel when you was know i'm saying get in here listening to this listening party That we just had I mean, I love it. I love I like the vibe. I really do tell me a joke. Don't tell me a lot I don't know but listen dead ass and you know, I'm a skater. I love roller skating. I can skate to his shit Okay, wow, I can skate to his music. Okay, like his shit his shit. I love it. I love it. It's very different It's not saying booty hole brown and all that shit. I I like have you sung that song though. Have you said that? At work. I hear it a lot I Ain't gonna point no elbows, but somebody be asking me for that shit all the time Oh shit Tear. Yes, that's your song Yeah, I think it my booty hole. Yeah pink Brown booty hole brown booty hole brown the booty hole is brown. Yes And the pussy no, that's what they they say, but when you get it bleached it won't be brown Exactly. Get it bleached. Yeah So that's you can I want to get mine's bleached Why why why don't you get why would you put chlorox bleach on your pussy? No, they don't put actual chlorox bleach What did you put on it in? It's I don't know what it is. It's like a lightning cream. Yeah, but And bacon powder don't listen to him. No, they don't Don't listen to him No, no And so what's the point of this again putting the putting bleach on your It started in a porn industry Why why you need to bleach it if you ain't never backed up? Somebody gonna be back though No, you gotta let them be they probably just like And that's it is say so when it's all the same color though for real When it's all the same color this sparking a new conversation now Some girls did a like a light skin cheek with a dark Oh, yeah Yeah, yeah. Hey, yeah, that that's something. No, no, there ain't nothing that they had control over that But we don't because the light is not you know strong with that motherfucker jet black. Yeah Chrissy you telling on yourself God gave you like a yeah, let it stay dark a matte black I mean, no, I'm not ashamed of it though. I'm not ashamed. Trust me. It's always exposed But you know it's matte black when you don't put lotion on You're breezing up this jet black. It was so I called you black and mild Dang, it ain't not black and spicy Every mile is spicy. Yo, your tear your tears. I can't stand all the lazy spicy Yo, we don't we don't got off track a little bit. We off track. Okay How did you feel about I came music? I liked it. It kind of gave me like andrey 3000 vibes I wouldn't trip it. It was cool. It was groovy and slash california So it was groovy Okay, I can listen to it. Yeah, that's how like something you would say I came groovy. Yeah, I say it all the time You pretty groovy, bro. Wavy Wavy I caught a wave Bourtney, what did you think? Yes, um, I thought that it was I liked it. I really did and I like the influence I like the samples he did like I could see where you get in your flow from for sure Southern influence. I see that Hold on. Bourtney, where you from? I'm from Atlanta. Oh, yeah, I'm from college part. You got an implant? You got an implant? No, born and raised here. That's what's love. Yeah Grady hospital not grady hospital. I was born on Cleveland Ave at South Forza hospital now Atlanta medical. Oh, yeah I didn't do the same thing Same thing. That's what's up. Yeah, I didn't see that one coming Okay. All right. Yo, yo red diamond. How did you feel about the music? Um, I like the music I feel like he got a little something for everything like you can folk to it. You can skate to it You can dance to it. Let me straight myself up and turn around. Okay I went ready easy by nigga Oh My god Finish what you were saying Thank you. I appreciate it damn That was sexy. She ain't lying on this shit Definitely. I could dig it. I could dig it, but so like Would that be insane because we what's the origin though, man? Who you uh was listening to coming up? You know outside of because you you know, I know you say a boost here, but yeah, bro You don't sound like boost First of all, I would like to give an honor to god and thank him for making me so handsome I wasn't ready Sexy chocolate nigga with the dimples on him Now I listen to everything man I was just like it was like a melting pot of a lot of shit and even to this day. I listened to a lot of stuff um I don't sound like any of the rappers that I listened to coming up. No, you don't other than wane When I was young young like boosie wane Twister, I used to listen to twister like a fucking maniac Yes, because it was this nigga that stayed in the hood He hit night with pool bell and that nigga used to know that bone thugs and harmony and twisted shit to a fucking tea And I'm like, but nigga He'd be rapping that shit And I was I just wanted to learn how to do it because he knew that shit so well and knew how to rap fast And I'm like rapping is cool. I'm like, how do you do it like that? But yeah, uh john legend usher the game Shit I wasn't ready for that. Yeah, but like just michael jackson Yes, I mean I got in trouble Come on, man I got caught stealing the michael jackson cd one time from walmart. No, you didn't No for sure if you're gonna get caught you might as well get caught stealing michael jackson Niggas gotta understand that I was in the seventh grade and like I had stored transitioning into like, uh Wanted to dance and shit Um I wanted to dance when I first saw you got served It's like as a kid you do a lot of shit and you don't know what you I was a grown man when that she came out And I wanted to dance. Yeah, no, but yo like I was in the third grade like I used to draw. I used to like, um Try to sing I was trying to rap like I was trying to like fucking dance and shit When I saw you got served like I started dancing and I didn't stop that shit until I got old enough to stop it And I don't know what age but I just got old enough to be like fuck this. I'm gonna stick to rapping Yeah, yeah, but uh, yeah, I got caught stealing the michael jackson cd It was one of them walmart. What'd they be calling them on the come on fucking walmart Like the undercover shop secret shop or whatever Man, I had some member in a thriller cd Man, that nigga called me walking out the door. Come on. If you're gonna get caught stealing the cd It better be a thriller. I wouldn't help that they had the fucking uh, beepers on the side inside of the cd. Oh, it's on the inside? Yeah, I didn't know that Wow That's one of the best stories I've ever heard of my life, man Yeah, nigga stopped me. He was like, hey, come here boy. Come here And so I kept walking left out the store. He was like a dark skin bald-headed motherfucker like Well, he embarrassed you. Yeah, and he took you to jail. Could have been your cousin on some shit, but Yes, sir. Yes, sir. But uh, he ain't taking me to jail, but he was like the undercover cop for real. He was in a uh, like a light blue 40s floor And I walked out the stone was like fucking he ain't gonna catch you me and my homeboy them And he got in the car and I noticed he was trying to like get in the car to hurry up and kiss me I start running he And pulled up on side me. I was like fuck but before he pulled up I had stashed the cd And uh, no the candy and a bag in the garbage can Stashed in the garbage can but I had the cd in my back pocket So he was like, what the hell was you going? What you what you stole? And I was like nothing So I he talked him out of sleep to see out my back pocket And dropped it. I could start talking like loud so he could hear me drop it And I like I ain't still nothing in and kicked it under the truck And um It was like what you get what you still he was like, you better tell him. I'm gonna take you to jail I'm like, I can't go to jail Not the jail So I go to the garbage can and undo the bag and I was like, oh, let's throw some candy And I was like fuck I can eat the candy need to be gone But if I say this cd, I can listen to this bitch from now until I don't know how long And at the time it was like I will say That was a good risk and a good investment because that cd taught me a lot So you got away with it like I got away with the cd And I'm glad I kicked it far enough because he rolled over it and didn't run over And I waited till he like drove off and he was like, I ain't gonna take your ass to jail I was like, oh, thank god. Thank god, man. And I got the cd Lily picked the cd up And took that motherfucker home And yeah, I listened to that cd and that's like literally my number one favorite album to this day. Hey, yes You ain't gonna believe this but Me too. Me three. Come on. Yes. Probably the best album. I literally don't have to skip a song or throw it No, you can't see you can't see the girl is mine, but I mean The girl is mine is broke It should have been the bitch is mine I I'm fucking with you. No, but no, that's that's a fucking man. You don't have to skip none on that album Like I study that shit like day in and day out when I'm writing music when I'm listening to study Like I listen to the instrumentation like I don't literally went to the studio and said listen What I'm making today needs to sound like this like for music In general that shit is almost like the fucking pill Countless You literally it's not a person on this earth That don't know who Michael like your grandmother know Michael Jackson You know Michael Jackson your kids know who Michael Jackson are your kids kids would know who Michael Jackson is because you are going to instead of like my partner got Uh, two and three year old five year old kids. They know who Michael Jackson is That's right. Everybody knows who Michael Jackson and he gone nine years. Wait 13 years now No 14. Shit. Well, he died 2008 Yeah, I was in ninth grade crazy Yeah, but no, like like back in the day when we used to take like I used to have 412 or 215 In the trunk for real And you beat two songs you beat two songs. You're gonna be how deep is your love by keysway do it again and you gonna be Michael Jackson, Liberian girl sonically That she beats so Bruh Bruh off the band out. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yes. Yeah right there sonically you can win Dudes used to win beat battles with Liberian girl. Yeah, yeah Michael Jackson didn't miss man. Yeah, he didn't miss in his vocal range Was just fucking That shit was just crazy. I studied that nigga like a I ain't gonna lie And you know what I was taught like it was this rapper where I'm from uh named the joker called the joker Uh, I don't know if y'all never heard of him, but he called as a mother for him I didn't call him polar bear pussy And I was at the bar the shot one day I was at the bar the shot one day And he walked in because I used to listen to him if y'all don't have like a favorite local rapper Like it's something to you before somebody. Yeah before somebody blow it something to you and I was in what 19th grade 9th grade and he walked in I'm like, oh man Joker man, I listen to your stuff all the time and like you so hard and my barber put me to the side. He was like What the fuck wrong with you and I was like What you mean? He was like, you don't never get that sighted to see no other nigga And I was like at the time like he tripping like this nigga be rapping like he didn't know who the nigga was But I was just like man, it's nigga hard and since then I have never been that excited to see nobody else ever in my life And I don't know why I thought he was tripping that day, but I've never been that excited If I met Michael Jackson, bro, I would feel like a 12-year-old girl Like that shit would be like you ain't wrong for that and it ain't like no Being on his it's just like the niggas. No be on that niggas, bro. The nigga is a legend, bro Yeah, why and it's only like Two or three more people that I would just be like I got it like who it says you'll be on my I don't know how you can use that shit that's so bad Hey, you fucking with the right one I wouldn't be on nobody nuts I was only uh I don't I was fan out over Michael Jackson only because like the influence that nigga has had on me show nobody else It would be like I'ma give you your flowers, but it ain't like I'm on your nuts because you my competition Hold on To say that No, no, you know, you say you fuck with booze now. I'm pretty sure you met booze Yeah, I done seen booze me and booze ain't never like just like formally met We didn't always just seen each other and passed by each other, but they ain't never been like no The idea I walked up to him one time told I was from this shit, but didn't mean shit to him. I mean It's just like niggas be like, yo, bro. I'm from uh Shit, uh east west Kaka like I'm like, okay, what did that do for me? But it was like on some introducing myself type shit, but you know He didn't seem like my videos and shit Like that before like and I done been around him and other people in the same vicinity, but it's just like Yeah, I grew up listening to him, but it's like if I tell him I'm a keem and I'm from such such. What does that do for him? People appreciate that, you know saying like is he probably related been there before and especially with a talent like yours, bro We get it so much that it don't it start like It depreciates So let me ask you this when people come up to you and say that you saying they don't mean nothing to you I'm humble because I'm still growing like boost it boost. He is a legend. But you're a legend I'm humble. You are you are a young legend By himself He is he is because he from like I will say he is one nigga who gets it like he knows and he ain't trying to like put on too much Like, you know, he got money, but he like I'm still like regular And that's how I be looking at myself like I'm regular. I drive a regular car. I love a regular like I'm just I'm a regular nigga with rapper talents. Yeah. Yeah, I am like Carl is a motherfucker. You feel me? But 100% man, so you you say you ain't never bumped into nobody that kind that like made you like Oh, shit. I don't know. Really? No I can see now you're making me feel like you ain't bumping into nobody I have it just be like shit Who the bigger motherfucker you didn't bump into snoop other than I'm gonna tell you something and I say this all the time other than Michael Jackson And I'm gonna put snoop second and then I can say like be unsealed right other than Michael Jackson snoop is Easily the most famous or recognizable person ever. That's right one of them. Hey, you know what? You know what I just thought about well now that you just said that I think the reason why you feel the way you do and go to back me up on this Rex back me up on this because we come from the same era It ain't niggas ain't really stars no more Niggas not stars no more we this we know we in a um We in a in a phase right now in the game where everybody famous even your mama could be famous tomorrow I feel like that's I feel like it's some truth to that but at the same time it's like, um We failed to realize and I didn't know until I got in it How regular we actually are and we just feigned to be regular Uh, somebody was telling me uh teasy. Um, my partner from back home teasy Thomas He was telling me like he was with draken in one day and he was like I'm gonna go down the street and get some ice cream and they was mad at him because I like damn You're so fucking lucky you get to go down the street and get ice cream if I wanted to go get ice cream I would have to get security get four five six niggas to walk with me Because I'm scared that mama's gonna pop out on me like and you paranoid all the time Like I didn't been in the stove and somebody was looking at me Have you ever seen somebody that looks unapproachable? Yes, and the motherfucker that been looking at me. Oh, when you look at somebody make eye contact What's the first thing you do? Your mind gonna be like look again to see if they looking and I look and they looking again and I'm like Yeah, he won't fight He won't fight like You know I'm saying and I don't walk around the grocery store with one fist like you know I'm saying I hope it'll make this one motherfucker count like when I swing If I don't kill him, I'm gonna hurt myself doing it Like but nothing didn't he walk up you were keen my lead Nigga you should have just said that I'm like damn why you didn't leave with them And he's like I thought it was you. I'm like shit. I thought I was gonna have to beat your ass. I mean It's like we be wanting to be normal and we don't realize the pit of school that people put us on because From their point of view, it's just like bro. You got a substantial amount of followers You got like bitches who want you like it's they put a they make up all of this shit and they hate about us Bro, I'm just a regular nigga. I want to go to the store and shop like you want to shop I want to be seen out in regular like don't give a fuck clothes joggers and a t-shirt, you know, I'm saying But it's just not that you don't feel the pressure to like have the impression about it. I do here today. I do You do. Yeah, I would have came up here in joggers in a t-shirt with some shoes on And then it would have been somebody in the comment section talking about that's a king I thought he was a pimp. Yeah, like yeah, like I gotta be pretty every day To no fault of my own like I don't have no control over being this fucking handsome But other than that, I gotta dress the part like I gotta look the part, you know, I'm saying if y'all hear me rapping All this shit and talking like this and that It's like, yeah, I'm handsome. But like what else like I come in here dress like I'm dressing You like you believe it for me if I talk about being a pimp. He like oh you like oh He do look like he just be doing something Some wicked shit on low. He's okay. Okay. Oh, yeah Hey, oh, okay They're talking to me about this pimping saying now. What is pimping come from? Um, I'm not a pimp and this is what For sure. I'm not a pimp. I do have my ways about me. Like I'm gonna call nigger. I ain't gonna lie about it Um, do you study pimps? Not at all. You you what are you a fan of pimp movies? Not at all Not at all. I've never been never been you know, what's crazy what you identify as a pimp, you know, what's crazy What do you think the first pimp ever did? He didn't have okay. Let's just let's just go all the way back to like 1950s 1960s The movie the Mac wasn't out Superfly wasn't out. No, that's true. What am I gonna do? I'm just gonna tell these motherfuckers what I would say if I was a pimp, you know, I'm saying So I never took like oh that movie's so fly. This is that I literally Something sparked on my fucking brain one day and I was just like I'm gonna tell you what it was This is the name legendary baller LB and I had to give him his credit all the time I gotta give him a beans. I gotta give him a credit. He's coming here. Lama bean is coming I gotta give him a credit We gotta prove Yeah, I gotta give him his credit all the time I saw his video on instagram one day and I'm like this old nigga is spitting Yeah, and I was like I'm a um I was like, uh I'm gonna rap like that and I'm gonna just like make my own little rendition And I literally did it and did not mean for this shit to get where it said I was just like he's spitting and I'm like it inspired me. You know what I'm saying? I had to give him his flowers He inspired me because people be sending me his stuff saying like he stole he stole your style He doing what you do. No, I was inspired by this nigga. You know what I'm saying? And I don't have a problem saying it I ain't stealing under his bars or I didn't rap like he rapping like we got two totally different styles You know what I'm saying? Yeah, but it's like that nigga inspired me and I'd have heard like pimp rapping Him and crit Crit Before him, crit laid that shit on thick and I was doing it in my regular music Like when I came out with my least shit I didn't come up with keming cast no until I heard this shit And I was like this nigga spits so hard. I got in a car got inspired and I was like I'm gonna write something And I wrote that shit and like man At first I was like, how did he do that? But I was like thinking to myself like why the fuck you worry about how he do it What would you say if you was a pimp? Like this is your world like just say the what the fuck you want to say like You pretty say you pretty like you handsome like and I took what I do in my regular life Sometimes and I was just like I mean I got playaways. I ain't no play. I just got playaways. You know, I like you just a smooth nigga Like and it's not that I'm trying to be play. He's just like Jen is like why I was just blessed with it like it is what it is ladies are y'all convinced are y'all convinced? Yeah, I just I just I just talk what I have done before or like what I would do I'm like if I was a pimp, I would say this like bitch don't bother me. I'm following my fingernails are like You know, I'm saying like throw your pussy at me because I'm pretty like You know, I'm saying I just said what I would want to say and then when I did that song literally I had no intention I'm doing none of that shit, bro. Like I did that song Kimmy Castanova And motherfuckers like this. So I put it out as a content piece and mom was like, where's this song? Where's this song? No lie since 2020 that song has literally been paying my bills. Wow. It's like that is fucking crazy Are you seeing out that? That song has literally I was like I was quote-unquote a struggling artist until the end like, you know, I'm saying going to the studio spending money to make money That song has literally been paying my bills since 2020 and um, when I found out that people wanted to hear that song I um, I put it out and I was like, fuck it. I'm gonna write a project Surrounding this and I wrote the project in like a week for mac and the day And man, when I tell you like that shit has Tremendously changed my life. That's how I was able to meet snoop I'm like all these people fucking with me just off the strength of like one song These niggas don't know what else I got to offer. They don't know who I am as a person It's like niggas in my dms hitting me like till and I'm like, I'll be rapping these niggas songs Word for fucking word and it's like I'll make I didn't make all of this shit By the way and like wrote like some crazy shit and I make one song about like In your kitchen making grits and putting dick in your wife and niggas was like he hard And I was just like, fuck it In your kitchen making grits and putting dick in your wife But Yeah, and it was like man never watch niggas asked me to I still have not watched the mac. I still have not watched superfly Yeah Yeah When you watch it, it's when I when you watch it it's like It's on you This shit just came from within Like I just put it out, you know, I'm saying I heard that nigga rapping that shit and like listening to crick and like You know what I'm saying? I'm just like Crick is like top 10 for me one of my biggest influences. So I had to give him his flowers every time I get the chance to but You never chance to tell him that? Yeah, yeah, did you have you met lima bean and told him that? You know, it's crazy. So the song I got called play the player He was on the original version and um, I needed the verses redone because some shit had happened With some samples and I needed him to redo the verse And he wasn't able to do it in time to make the actual project But like we talked and chopped it up and everything and like Yeah, he'll call niggas He'll call niggas Yeah Me I'll meet him in a four eyes. You for me before I I've never heard that name before Yeah, he was on a ludicrous first two albums and went out doing a freestyle Okay, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We got a we got a rap group in what now called reckless eyeballing When he come up here again when he come up again I want to bring I want to bring you on on the show back on the show with a lima bean I remember his shit too. Like the freestyle that Like yeah 16 a better it kind of popped him off um in a sense and then like when that's like, I didn't even know he was like Popular function. I seen it one day. I'm like this nigga just going fucking crazy And my thing is I'm like create whatever you're gonna create like at that point I was so desperate to like Make sure you happen for myself because I spent so much fucking money on the road like of course, you know I'm saying and I'm just like I just do this shit just to have content just so people can see that's right And I was just like I heard that shit And man, I'm just an old player from off the block. I get a black girl's dick in the white girl's cup I brought my chinese girl a brand new walk I like maria because she made my tamales real hot on the microphone I'm the best your hoate because I'm so supplied with the voids and voids. That's how you said it And I'm like this whole nigga is spend some shit I was like fascinated And the little that I know like when I wrote my own People would be so fucking fascinated with and this shit and took me into like a whole different like lane and put me in a Whole different world and it's like now I can do that shit so fluently like when I walked in he was like, he's bad. It's my shit Like and it started from right net kimi cast no song and I was like, how the fuck do I keep rapping about being a pimp if I'm not a pimp? And I'm telling you like I'm like three four projects in and I'm like, I don't know how I'm doing it That's why I know like it gotta be in you. It can't be shit. You just like You feel me? I just found out that wasn't in me Just talking to you now it can be in you You just don't know it like everybody in the head like moments where they didn't like this shit with females even like She said you gotta believe Oh Yeah Ten years of pimp pork needs a pimp red diamond is a goddamn man. I don't wrote about shit that if you was a girl I don't wrote this for a girl like Um, you invited nigga over and you let the niggas suck on your titties and then telling you came for because your cycle On like bitch. Why are you letting me suck these titties and getting my dick hard as a brick? What is that about? My dick my dick hard as a oh nine little Wayne first. You mean it? Ah But that's been a pimp like I don't trick this nigga out of this this that a net Right such such and it's like shit that you just your experiences. Exactly. It's necessary. It doesn't have to be about money I'll rap from experience exactly Uh shit that I would do if I was a pimp. I'm like shit Mm-hmm You can't talk that shit if it ain't somewhere in your DNA though I feel like that though because if niggas if niggas could do it everybody would do it But it's like I'm not a pimp in the sense of like having motherfuckers go out and make money for me, but man Listen, it's it's more than it's more than that than it's more than that I feel better because I did that I did it like that but if I was like, you know what you you the one with fucking for this Let me get your money back. You deserve it If you had a lot of females though, if you had a lot of females you'd have had to maneuver some shit and like for they go a few things like so Yeah, 100 they had my hose in the world got people and Talk about it. Oh That was dope. I appreciate that. That was dope. I appreciate it ladies. Do y'all have any questions for my man? Okay, my lead Let's go ahead start there back start down back. I start down. That's what she said Introduce yourself young lady Hi, I'm red diamond. Oh red diamond Oh, let me see what I want to ask you. Okay What's your favorite part of a woman's body to kiss? The kiss A kuchi Okay, okay. A kuchi. I like I like kissing though, but I mean like, you know, once you once you in a groove and you instrument like Just pull your pants down. Baby. Let's do this Say it again Pull your pants down baby. Let's do this Wow You just go skipping right all the four play the top like when we end up like when we already like then got passed like Getting to know each other like what we um Like what are we doing all this small talk for like we ain't getting no young we might as well do this Yeah, I'm coming in the house Hey, yo, yo red diamond you satisfied with that answer. Yes No, but that's only after you didn't got to know somebody and like, you know, how long do I take to get to know somebody? Unless they want you to know You know, but I know you just don't go out here like if I'm fucking with you I wouldn't been like kicking it for a while like that's when it's appropriate But don't please don't go around putting your mouth on everybody cat like, you know, you don't want your shit Looking like a star crunch And be cool Like emotionally and mentally and like y'all intertwined and like tone in with each other like it's okay to do that but When y'all start off just you know, I don't even like I don't even want to try to kiss no motherfucker start though Really not at all. I love to kiss it. No, I You know what's crazy I literally make no moves. I don't make no moves Like motherfuckers and told me I thought you didn't like me Like I thought someone told you I thought you was gay because I just be like I chill and I'm like, I'm not pressed on fucking you Like once I get that pepper once I hit once I hit you literally have given me everything that I was gonna work for That's why I got to get to know you like if this gonna be something like let's just chill Let's just vibe. I gotta have females over and like we be laying in the bed naked and I'm just laying there like shit I'm chilling like because once we fuck like my mind goes somewhere else This is like Any many times where I don't been like What's up? What we doing? But when I know I want something with you or like when I like you I'm just gonna chill It's so rude and then that's when that niggas don't know and Y'all tell me if I'm lying When you are not pressed to get the pussy when you are not pressed to get the pussy they want to give it to you more That is literally a cheat code, bro. Do not talk about pussy. Do not mention pussy. Don't say nothing about pussy You will get more pussy not entertaining. That is true. It's not a secret. It's literally just like facts like I Invite them all over. That's true. You want something to drink? I don't I don't see niggas. You got to take a shot to come in. Oh, you want something to drink? I got sprite coke water wine if you want some if you drink look at that's cool. Like what you need All right, we laying in the bed. I'm just like shit. I don't know if you Uncomfortable or whatnot, but here go a t-shirt and some boxes or if you got your own clothes Make uncomfortable And it's not a facade. Would you like to put more clothes on male? Yeah, it's not a facade. It's like baby I really don't want to fuck you because if I do I'm gonna be here You're gonna be sick of me. You're gonna be tired. You're gonna be cussing me out because now I don't want nothing to do with you Right, like once I done popped. I'm like shit. You go find something else It's real. It's just simple If it wasn't true, they wouldn't tell you It's true. It's true. That's that's that's 100. Yeah, every n***a who is presto, presto who is a creep Yeah, I take them on fuck out and I let her know like baby don't get too drunk don't drink too much around me I don't want you making no decisions. You're gonna regret tomorrow. I'm telling you if we fuck tonight You bar these wedges go ahead and hang it up I ain't got nothing unless you be honest or somebody. I've been one but Dang Okay Chris you got a question for him um You like your women submissive or dominant I like them however they come I like a challenge so it's like I adjust because adjusting affords you a wisdom that you can't pay for and I say that because like um We tend we don't realize we're gonna deal with every type of woman in our lifetime Yeah, and so when we run across a girl who bossed up and she's dominant We tend to be intimidated by as a man because we always want to take the lead I tell women all the time Be the head sometimes and I'll be the neck as long as you know, you can't move without me. I'm straight And vice versa. Sometimes I'm gonna be the head and you got to be the neck, but I can't move without you Right, so like I'm not tripping be dominant because it's like we um, we trick ourselves out of blessings Um being intimidated and being scared as men and trying to be all macho And the head of everything like I didn't have people boss me up And it's like I didn't know certain things like I'm young and it's like I didn't date the older women And they didn't boss me up and told me stuff and it's like now that I'm away from it I'm like damn. I'm glad she showed and told me that and I teach somebody else and they're like Oh, you so wise, but I'm like if I was you know, I'm saying big-headed and didn't want to learn Or wasn't willing to like have somebody who's gonna show me this shit I wouldn't know it so I'm just like awful like be what you want to be because at the end of the day I'm gonna learn from it. So if you submissive, I'm like, okay Some of your traits I would like to see in another woman if you dominate I'm like, okay some of your traits I would like to see in another woman And you know how you try to make like your perfect nigga for you It's like you probably talking to like two three niggas He's like if this nigga had a job like him or if he acted like him, I would have the perfect nigga So it's like, you know, that's the way I look at it be what you want to be and I'm going just accordingly If it's too much for me, I'll let you know, but if it's not I'm like, let's go baby. Okay I like that. I'm happy. I'm not mad at that Boyknee Yes, man, you you got something you want to say to camea Lee I want to say, um, that was an amazing answer to that question. I love the outlook that you have online. I really do I'm handsome. That's how I do it. Mm-hmm real pee. I like that. I love a player So, um, I want to know what's the most spontaneous thing you've ever did for a woman Hmm Is that really spontaneous did two or did four did four Because I wasn't really going with the two. I'm pretty sure I could think of a lot of things Shit Probably should have been the easiest question, but this motherfucker seen all this here I don't know. I've gone through this Been vulnerable Been vulnerable. It's normally like a wall up, you know, I'm saying and you don't want to like give too much too soon But sometimes you get comfortable. You meet a motherfucker and they press on all the right buttons You know I'm saying and so you just kind of like Fall into the groove of shit, you know, and it ain't that you intended to then you had to catch yourself to my son Do I really like this motherfucker? Like, you know, and you might you might have met him and be like I ain't stunned them and when they get on the phone and get the conversation you like You calling your homegirls your homeboy's like, yeah, I love this motherfucker Oh, yeah, just being vulnerable and just being open right off the rip. I appreciate that man. You always know what to say D D man, um Finesse stories man, we all got this little segment called Finesse stories. Um, Jesus christ. Yes. Yeah Do you ever remember a time, you know, I came that you've been, uh Finesse all you finesse someone else. Oh plenty plenty plenty. Would you share with us? Yeah, I was uh, I was getting finessed a lot when I first moved out here I ain't know how this shit how first off how old were you when you moved to Atlanta? I was what 22 Oh, wow. Yeah Got you. So you can't and what where you was this? 2016 2016. Yeah, you came in finessin time. This is the finesse captain. This is the foot. Yeah, they're gonna do it to y'all here Hey, it used to be like this Yeah, it used to be impeccable before I moved from to new york and that was in like oh nine, you know, and lana was a a pretty, uh A1 city and whatnot and you know, I ain't gonna take nothing from it. No, no It still is but you you have this to learn to lay a land and everything and you can move around Pretty good and stuff because you you you have to just get used to the the implants that I hear Yeah, you know, and uh, you know, everybody coming from different cities where they own little uh The scams is the we're in the time of the scam. Yeah. Yeah. This is the scammer age Yeah, I would say from 2010 to to now is the uh, the the age of the scammer. Yeah, man Tell us about it man. When did you give finesse? What happened? um, I just remember like being out here and like Taking females on dates and shit and never hearing back from him. He was the fool The fool nigga Everybody plays the fool sometimes But I ain't know just being from mississippi and we like genuinely good people we If we got intentions, they are always good And I'm like I had my little ways about me, but if I'm gonna like offer to take you out or do something Um, it's gonna be Genuine, you know, I'm tonight. So yeah, yeah took one girl out and I literally haven't fucking heard from her since Because you have the fool to this day It wasn't that I was a fool nigga. We had just met this the thing was like this was our first time going somewhere like We never like done anything. It went like I was a fool nigga. Like she was getting something from me previously It was like the first time I get what you're saying It was like If you got a nigga that's going a nigga get you food one time. He's not the food nigga, right? You know me like, oh, if you okay, this was our first time But I was like we was just talking on the phone and communicating and I was like I guess she just didn't like me, but I'm like shame on her. I'm like There we go. No mice cantina Yeah, I was working around the corner Yeah, I ain't had no bread like time I'm just like Wanted to go out and conversate with her it was on some like and I'd probably see why though because I was like at the time I ain't had the money like I Allow to me fast when I got out this all I ain't gonna stunt I moved out here. I stayed all my money to move out here and I got out here Trying to live like these niggas would I didn't know everybody was scamming and shaming Atlanta did a lot for me it ruined so much shit for me like Man, but now I be like I had to tell my partner now when they put you on the move I'm like don't come out here trying to keep up with nobody that don't got no job You're gonna see a lot of people who got money and don't got no place of employment. You just let them be Them they own community of people Let them folk do the fuck they doing go to work. Yeah, be who you're gonna be for yourself Thank you thriving survived my brother. Like, yeah, she ain't talking to me no more after that. Shame on her. Could have me, baby Could have lost Yep, could have got got but um, I didn't do a lot of finesse into Tell us a finesse story. Share with your dog. I don't lie to them. Try it Hey man, but when you know how to execute you can flex the cute and that's all I never did when you did You can flex the pretty I don't lie to get something before I didn't finagle my way into song, you know, I was This one time this girl was just like, oh if I um if we have six, I'm not gonna ever hear from you again And you know what? I didn't lie to her But I was like, you know what if I'm gonna talk to you I'm gonna talk to you anyway I was like now I ain't gonna tell you that we won't talk again, but I was like shit In my head, I'm like, you give me none. We definitely not if you don't give me none We definitely not talking but I'm like if you do give me some it's a possibility. I may talk to you I ain't saying we're gonna talk every day and I did mean it but when I got home. I was like But yeah, I just kind of said what I had to say and we always do that shit like It's one of those things because I knew she wanted it bad. So I'm just like You know, I was like a fucking car salesman. I can put you on a brand new 2016 Toyota camera like whatever you need Yeah but I'll dress it up and she went for it and Hey, I appreciate it. Oh Word man. Yeah. I first off make your own t-race man Give it up for him one more time just for being a real nigga man I Appreciate you just being vulnerable on the show And they would able to like, you know, this really opened up to us man. We did not that's the first time meeting them Yeah, we did not done it y'all didn't like Oh, no, I had one. I ain't no no. Let me tell you about another little shit Look, this one chick finessed the shit out of me But what happened is I ended up finessing her on the back end. Okay. Okay lie Like I was supposed to like I'm trying to I'm trying to slide in and she was like no No, no my cycle on and da da da. We ended up drinking, you know, I'm saying And turned out her cycle wasn't on and she had just ended up having six like the day before like Some other time like earlier that morning or summer like the day before and I ended up sliding up and I'm to my I got in that motherfucking got to knocking shit loose. I ain't gonna stop I was in there. I just got the I got the movement I got the moving furniture around I was trying to Yeah, but She finessed me and I was like, I ain't gonna make her do nothing. I don't want to do I don't believe in like No, of course not when it gets to a point where for like, I'm trying to beg you I'm gonna ask you I'm gonna state my business like I'm gonna let you know what it is and what I want And I'm gonna make sure of what you want. Yeah, but when it gets to a point where I got to come on Like no, no, I'm not gonna convince you to fuck with me. Keep it back No, keep it. It's that's yours. Yep. Yeah. Give it to someone else. I'm like beat it sweetie My homeboy king made it up beat it. But uh, yeah, and I ended up getting what I need to get out of it And she was honest about it. She was like, yeah, I didn't want to do it because I was gonna feel like this or that And I was like, oh no, baby, you know, it's all good and it wasn't but I appreciated her for being honest afterwards You could have just said you didn't want to like you didn't have to lie like a cycle zone. I can be Damn It was all good though. I'm not gonna say why women still lie and say they own a cycle Just say you don't want I mean I did that back in high school. Oh, what's all they may be still in that same mentality You gotta let people go. That's it right there. That's it. Right. No, I'm good. Nobody understanding when you was doing it I'm like, why would you lie? And it's just like at the time you just like look us But see chris, you straight up though. You you straight up everybody Everybody like that you don't do nothing. You don't want to do facts. I don't everybody's not comfortable being themselves because She might that that lady or that guy might be afraid. They might lose something And whatnot and uh, you know, it's it's it's all about this where you are in life, you know You know, like like I said, I'm not once again Convincing someone to kick it with you or to like you And everything you you got you gotta be cool with motherfuckers walking out Because you know, it's a whole world of motherfuckers out here, man to get out here meet Ski be It's a lot to it though. It's a lot to go into all of this shit, man. Yeah 100% Don't waste your time. No, don't look any further. No, but you know what you I tell people all the time and while they say this in the song you meet your intentions before you meet the person That's right. Just straight up when you walk into a room male or female. You literally say to yourself He is handsome. I would fuck him Right, that's just straight up now. You don't always act on it. You don't always say nothing When I walk into a room, I say damn she got a fat ass. I fuck shit out of her But am I gonna tell you that? No, I'm just gonna. Hey, how you doing? And mind my fucking business But I done already made my mind up whether I want to fuck you or not So if a female got you in a room alone or y'all she might not want to fuck you then But she knows she wants to fuck you. That's right She's gonna say you're not there if she ain't made up in her mind Like I want to fuck him at some point. He's just gotta not do nothing to fuck this up He comes in so Like every time you walk into a room, it's literally the same thing when somebody walking you like damn They look good like and you start thinking with your private part You did say yeah, she do look good, man. Jack you ever talk to yourself out of pussy. Oh all the time Okay, so 100% yes and keep your mouth closed for a time I tell my partner that all the time but sometimes but this is what I look at it like too I I even though I talk myself out of I've talked myself out of pussy and what it was for the best I like I like I like being myself and getting it being myself sometimes If you understand that you you feel what I'm going with this I understand that because you if you get if you up here saying everything somebody want to hear and whatnot and You know not being yourself and everything. Do you really enjoying yourself? Uh, sometimes you drunk and you not being yourself like you just uh, you didn't tap into a whole not a little Shit, but I done been drunk before and talking myself out some pussy and I'm like Ah And I'm like, I They say you are you are you say what you really want to say when you like the influence. I feel like it's half and half I feel like it's half Like that's why they tell you like your judgment is impaired You're not thinking straight. That's true. That's true. Like I believe when you get mad You say what's on your mind the 100% yeah, I believe like when mother could tell me something ain't mad. I believe them Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna kill you. I was just playing now Let's talk about this But yeah, but I'm I'm old now though. Like I'm like I said, I'm 41. So I'm not afraid of missing out I'm cool on that shit You know what I'm saying? Because you you just don't know Or when like later on when you see somebody and whatnot like damn I'm glad I didn't fuck with them Especially if you see them with someone else and they going through it and they're like damn That could have been me right there You know, I'll say I should have got that pussy while she was still in a good predicament I'm like, this nigga crazy. I'm sad that she's not I'm like, I'm sad that she isn't as fine as she was but if I had to hit that pussy when she was in her prime Boy you so mad boy you hell Y'all done said that before like damn that nigga ain't shit now, but back in the day. I wouldn't love that nigga to Break my back I can dig it I can dig it Yo, T, um, let me just direct the question to you man. Oh, let's we're talking about finessing right now Finesse story, okay um Everything every woman that has ever finessed me double back and I got my get back. I got my link back Never had an issue Where I mean this nigga line Ah Everything that has ever finessed me came back to me in some way form of fashion boy. You slick it in words for No, it always worked out to my advantage like I remained a nice guy throughout Yeah, I was upset and I done been emotional. I worked through my emotions. Everybody's gonna work through their emotions That's right real tough. So As I got better, I mean the more you get finessed the more you know how to handle this shit. Yeah, that's right I've been in clubs for decades and yeah, that's right our little stories heard them all and I don't know. I guess it's that southern gentleman in me. I'm always Keep it player like whatever and some of them steal finesse and then come right back in the club the very next day The very next week the very next month because for some reason I'm always taking care of The reason I got finessed I was going The reason they came back from the time that they came to me to the time they left they were down on their luck I was lucky enough to be able to bless them whatever they finessed me out of and then they came back And either apologize needed some more or I got my link back Hey, give it up for yourself. Yeah Give it up for yourself You know, let's lie to no one over Bortney, let's go I've never been finessed For one you're a legend. I've never been finessed. You're a legend in these shoes, though I could I could smell that from a mile away Congratulations finesse. I could smell from a mile away. I'm from Atlanta. So okay every day. I'm finessing every day I live off finesse and probably gotta watch you I mean I turn my back on you Why you gotta watch me? Let's see. I finessed my way into Having two boyfriends, right? And they knew about each other, right And I finessed one of them To buy Rolex for the other way Damn, that's that's that's that's about the best finesse story I got for y'all. Damn. Oh, shit. Damn He might when I even go to the meeting because she didn't I don't know how you did it. They said it couldn't be done But it could be done She got a golden ticket She ricks though Why why this don't match the middle wrist? You had two mentally ill niggas I love it. I love it. I love it I don't let you get away with something now. You can't get away with something Damn That's a whoo. That was heavy. Yeah Okay, yo, Ray Diamond. What's up? Actually, she actively finessing one for that But no, it's not like finessing like Like that, but it's just like they know they getting finessed because you know, not about to go on with you But exactly just for me to sell you that fantasy then. Okay You know what I'm saying, but they know I'm not going home with them or they know they're not doing these But it's just a point that they think like let them feel how they want to feel. Yeah, what's y'all? I'm picking up what you're putting down. I get it dig. I'm gonna put it back down, but I'm I'm digging it. I can dig it. I can dig it. Definitely dig it. Chrissy for that story I used to dance in my past in my younger days. So of course I finessed guys like how she said it Um, I bartend at a strip club now So yes, it's been plenty of customers that try to finesse me out of paying their tap But guess what Chrissy do? Chrissy gets her little ass around that bar and go run up them steps Right behind their ass. Hold on. They actually will walk out That's a thing for God. Yeah, they run off. Yeah, but I'm right there. I'm on top of you Damn I may be sitting here chatting with this guy finessing him or whatever But guess what my eyes are still On who got the tabs with me. Okay. Yeah, hold that thought baby. I gotta go run somewhere real quick So somebody will leave a card and actually Leave I'll leave out with that card and everything, but I will be I'll be honest They'll be they'll be gone I'll ring they shit up. Yeah, you still you still gonna ring your shit up. Put your tip on there That's it for this I plead the best Okay, yeah, yeah, stop stop right there. Stop right there. I don't do that But I do pay their tab and then I'll just you know Put their their information up in the office at the end of the night Okay, because they'll eventually call or sometimes they'll just get a whole new one. It's been plenty of guys that leave a max is And Well, we just I make too much money to even try to deal with that type of shit. First of all, I just gone and just Close they tab with their card and I just put it up with the manager I make too much money at my job to even try to do no damn shit I can dig it. You from Miami Yeah That's how you know, she's the day day day. I don't know about my Something yo, man. Yo, I came like what you want out the game, bro. What's the what's the ultimate goal for you? Oh, I'm gonna be the greatest all around Rapper pop star celebrity I um came to a realization that like Some people do some things Maybe better than I do but they don't do other things and I do everything. That's the only thing so like you got I'll say the only two people that I could say actively do everything I'm gonna say accurately, but so like drake drake can rap drake can sing um I'm not being biased when I say this drake ain't a better rapper than me. He's just popular He's just more famous. Got more hits than me. You're not getting to that It's not a better singer that nigga tour lanes can't sing but he's not a better rapper than me. You feel what I'm saying? Um, and I'm not trying to dress this shit up. No, I know you Follow you. I know you mean every goddamn thing you saying right now. I'm not being biased I'm telling like the only two rappers that I've heard I'm gonna say three the only three rappers that I've heard that I've like No, I'm gonna give it to five the only five rappers that I've ever heard that I've said like damn These niggas are like so cold as a rapper. I would have a problem Eminem Wayne Kendrick Franchise and Deontay Hitchcock Wow literally And like so everybody can't like rap and sing like drake sings But he kind of like taught himself how to sing and it was just kind of like he don't sing sing You know saying or a Tory Lane's like he sings really good But he not gonna out wrap me and these are the two most famous popular niggas who can do like both And like uh, you know what I'm saying? Expert level, but yeah, it's just ain't nothing that I ain't got and I'm pretty like To no fault of my own God made me this handsome and it's the thing like you didn't have no design on I mean you don't have no Control over how good you was gonna look. No, it was by God's way by his design that you came out looking the way you're looking, right? Beautiful and if a mother won't argue with it, you tell him I was made in God's image Right that is God is the epitome of perfect if I was made in his image. What am I? Perfect, but I'm I am the best. I ain't gonna say I'm gonna be the best. I am the best It just takes time for the world to see it. That's all it is The word word, man. Yo, I can't man Let's let's talk about the name real quick. Yeah, is that your Your real name right there. Akeem is my name. Okay, Akeem Thomas. Um, you adopted Ali I adopted Ali because, um I like shit talking. I try to stay as humble as I can but I like shit talking like some of the greatest shit talkers of our time uh rick flair The rock Muhammad Ali, that's right And like man, I was at home one day and I had a fucking epiphany and I was watching Ali And I'm like this nigga talk so much shit. He did lose some fights But granted like that nigga was able to back that shit up. That's right And I looked up what the name meant like my name Akeem means wise And so Ali means exalted or noble one champion and I was like I liked it and I'm gonna make that my name Uh, and I'm gonna say this on record. It's somebody else who got my name and I it might be a real name, but like Stop fucking making music under my name Shit That's the thing. No, I'm gonna I'm just gonna say it and this ain't me trying to be cocky and nothing You're not a better rapper than me like niggas really want to smoke Like I ain't like a confrontational type person like it's gonna be like what it's gonna be It's black and white if I can avoid it, I will but once it's there, it's just like we in it now But stop making music under my name like it's trash and I'm sorry, but I don't like it and people don't like it before you Hey, you know, but we'll see you this I'll tell you this man You know and I know at the same time Whoever that is and I hadn't even heard them yet But they can't compete with you and nobody even cares about them. I'm gonna call me the man God gave me all of this for like a reason like I'm allowed to talk like this because god designed it that way. He gave us free will like I'm designed to feel how I feel about it. Yeah, but yo, okay Yo, okay, you you in a class all by yourself, bro and you know, uh You you're going all the way to the top and I'm I'm really proud of you and I'm Once again, I'm so happy to have you on the show today. Yeah, I appreciate that This was a real treat for me because I've been following you man ever since I seen you on um 85 vibes Yeah, and I was like god damn Yeah I didn't know who you was like I'd be watching like I'm heavy like URL and I'd be watching you on stage at the like smackbatter than she I've been like he he on stage fucking clowning, bro. He's like did you hear what he said? And I was like this ain't gonna sound like your buddy. You're like, did you hear what he said? I just oh yeah, I heard him. Hey, bro, bro, let me tell you something You talking about some like 2010 11 shit. I remember Joe bud came up to me He's like, bro, why you always be gasping at the battles, nigga. You do be doing it Yeah, so you say you see me do that shit. We've been like instagame. It's like I don't want to Oh, you already said you ought to hit him I wouldn't take that level of disrespect But the time of this shit do be hard, but you be up there like oh I would like but I Oh Damn, man I'm just getting the new york then and whatnot and I had never been to a battle in my life And when I started going to smack shit, I was like, damn Dope and I thought it was that's why I'm really heavy in the bars now, man And I can really appreciate you. Yeah, I studied battle rap. Yeah, like every aspect. Would you do it? I do it on a small level. Like I have this, um, so I have personas All right, Kimi Casanova is a persona. That's dope. Um Kim Ali is my actual just like regular rapper name, you know what I'm saying? I got this other character called hoodie king But what I try to explain to people like I want to be like the martin of rap Like when you watch the show martin, he has the room He has shanae nay rise gold dragon fly jones and he has martin like himself All of these people are funny, but none of them are possible without martin. That's right. Kimi Casanova is not possible without kim Ali Or um hoodie king is impossible. So it's just like seeing somebody bring that from Like film and tv and like, you know, I'm saying Hollywood into like the music industry It's gonna be really really nice It's like I can rap on a regular level like I got battle rap boys and like Not a pimp, but I can rap about being a fucking pimp That's what's up, bro. Yeah, man. Yo, so, you know, like I know you got some more famous shit to do and not like I said before I want to bring you back. You know Yeah, I definitely want to bring you back when I bring limo beans up here for show Yeah, I know that's gonna be an explosive episode. I don't want to think I want to know what's on these cards I want you to know what's on the cards I want you to know what's on Ladies, can y'all ask him something off the cards? I want to know what's on them. Me too. Am I single? I'm a mac with accolades to prove it Okay You were mac with accolades to prove it. No, I'm spoken for. I'm spoken for I wasn't ready. I didn't know that. Okay. What's your uh, best three qualities my best three qualities My personality my smile Um My conversation my conversation. Yeah, the best mouthpiece out the southeast Yeah, okay. All right Who's next What are your some some of your non-negotiable requirements when dating somebody? I like this. I don't have any Yeah, because you're kind of already answered that. You pretty much like do who you're going to be. I just according Yeah, okay Another car How do you think the bills should be split in the household? I like this um If I'm the primary breadwinner, I want to pay all of it, but I'm gonna say to be fair I pay the rent And like the big bills you pay the utilities I don't like this is just me I do want to cater to my woman like I want her to have everything that she wants Like if I got an excess of money like don't spend your money But it's like I don't ever want you to get to a place where you can place it because like what if one day we not a thing You know and like you're used to somebody Paying for everything then you get with another dude and it's like he's not that type of person Like it just teaches you to always be some level of independent. You know, I'm saying so it's like to you It's like, oh, I shouldn't have to pay for nothing, but Baby, you still want to be able to do At any level like don't ever get too dependent on nobody Even though I can't pay the utilities So would that be a non-negotiable? It's not a non-negotiable Um, it's not because she it's like the way I'm gonna present it. She gonna It ain't gonna be a problem. It's like it's not that she gonna do what I say, but it's just like Did you agree with what I said when I said Exactly that's all it is like as long as you agree and I'm not putting it in your face It's like, you know, I'm saying you gotta do this. I'm asking Well, I will pay all this and think about it utilities. You only come down like 200 all the month Yeah, who just said they didn't want to pay the utilities. I don't like that I'll pay for the rent. I'll pay you should do it accordingly the car notes, you know, I'm saying Okay, I'm not but I will Okay Okay I Okay, hey life be like what calms you down when you're upset music Music I gotta move music has a mood or a song for every mood that you can ever be in Okay, everybody knows when you're mad they have mad music to fuel that You're sad they have depressed music to help you fall deeper into depression and when you're happy They have music that you know lifts you up Yeah Music does it all I don't think we could exist without music though. Have y'all ever thought about that? Now I totally agree. I second that emotion. Yeah Word word word to you. Yeah, so if you were given one million dollars right now, how would you spend it? This is me. This is me because I don't know how to be rich. I know how to spend money Any y'all that never had a million dollars raise your hand We know at one time one time One time A million dollars a million dollars, I like these girls I like these girls for one a million dollars over the next five years. I wanted a lot of to me and five, um Increments, I want two hundred thousand dollars at a time because I don't know how to be rich And I will invest Because I know myself I'm going to invest like two hundred thousand dollars for one year. It's a lot of fucking money to live off Let's just be for real about it. You can um Yeah, everybody can but you can get the car you want you can get the house you want and you can pay the note on it Like, you know, like next year if I run out of money this year next year. I'm gonna have the money to pay for this car Later getting that whole million dollars and like I'm gonna buy when you got a million dollars You spend according to what your ceiling is. Okay, the ceiling is a million You start buying shit like you got a million dollars When it's 200,000 you buy shit like you got 200,000 dollars when you got 10 dollars you go to um McDonald's and say let me just get the burger a cup of water I hold off on the fries today, right? Yes, so 200,000 me over the course of five years I'm gonna invest and uh, yeah, I'm gonna give me a hand. Yeah, I'd rather do it like that than having a Like a whole block and somebody told me one time shout out to go out there He told me like I don't know how to be rich. So I had I figure out ways to keep making more money Right and all the time we don't want to learn how to make more money We just lazy and we just want the fucking money just to be honest about it Like we work because we have to or not because we want to So it's just like shit And I know me I want to go to the studio. I want to make music. That's my happy place And yeah, just give me 200,000 dollars at a time and let me Accordingly and then my folks can't be like, oh, you got a million dollars like fuck with me I'm like, I don't have a million like I got 200,000 and half that shit going to texas already so Yeah Y'all would have took the whole million until I said this shit, huh? I mean, I would have took the million. I would have put it up Got it and not paying no bills She don't even want to pay the goddamn I'm used to paying bills She said I pay bills right now Okay, okay That's funny. Okay. No, who got another one? Let me hear it. Um, which is most important to you money power or respect? What's power? People don't realize like with power you can get You want and you can get the respect like people don't always have to like you but they will respect you when you have power Just if you think about this we do a lot of us or some of us Some of us didn't like Donald Trump, but he had power and you just had to respect it Like you don't go around like just disobeying laws. You have to respect that shit But when he said someone when he implements something you just respect it You feel I'm saying and when people got power they're in a position to get more money You know, it's like by force or by however you're gonna do it Like you can't have the money but mother because it's like literally rich niggas who are corn balls You corny as hell like nobody respects you you just got money. You just got money Got respect I can see that that is true That's true. Okay, that is true But you got people who have respect but don't have power Exactly like we just respect you but you're not like a person in power. Yeah, you know what I'm saying Y'all preaching that When you got power people just people don't always like it, but they respect it Yeah, for sure. They always that's just me like it's been I don't know It's just certain parts where okay, so like Uh, I guess I use like nino brown on new jack city y'all single jack city, right? Or scarface like scarface had power Yeah, with that power He gained respect and he got all the money he wanted now the motherfuckers didn't like it And not the most but he got everything he wanted because he had like he started accumulating power and he started doing that I'm like forcing shit like that on new jack city Nino brown had power and it was people that he was able to do certain shit to like He was saying certain shit sit your father. I got power and you don't like me telling you this but you're gonna respect it You know I'm saying you don't like it If you got their respect, I feel like yeah, you can make it further like you got people want to The mic for you because that's what you more when you got to respect like abusing the power some people abuse they power though It doesn't seem like it when we talk. I feel like I feel like you had respect before you got the power like you had to have the respect to get the power Right because nobody if how could you have power if nobody respected you? I got you. I got you Somebody had it respect you. I guess money. We can all agree that money is the least important Yeah, because you know what scarface he didn't have the power yet. Remember he didn't have the power first He had to start small before he got big. He had to get the respect Especially he fought with the people he was surrounding himself by You know Maybe i'm wrong in that aspect, but I do believe once you have the power right respect comes a lot easier I personally think you we don't you tell what police got power Police got power. We don't like a lot of shit police do but we're not just willy-nilly going out here There are people in positions that have power That's true I walked in plenty of club with different managers. That's true. You're out of Georgia east side west side downtown Yeah, that's true. They had the mother fuckers, but they had the power They had the power and you had the respect for me to get my check. I had to respect what they said. That's right. That's true Yeah They didn't have more money than me But they had more power than me because I don't care about being corny as long as they got their money Okay, this is a good discussion y'all, but I got to wrap it up. Yeah, and what now man my man I came a lead. He got us some things to do and everything. Yo, I told you the cards work, man You know shout out to my home girl the situation ship tonion ceo appreciate that man. These great cards And what not all yo man, okay, man Tell us what you got coming up next and everything and what we should look out for bro Uh and tell them how to follow you too I'm gonna continue to enhance them as I can until I elevate to my legs. Never the next level of sexiness Um and when I'm done with that man, I'm just gonna keep giving on to the god You know, it's all possible through him So yeah And if you want to feel like I feel you know ask god to help you with that show now Uh, yeah, but I just dropped my project rose the red, but I'm colorblind go cop that I got more coming this year You can find me at ak Eem underscore underscore Ali. You follow me or swallow me the choice is yours I'm not gonna make you do what you don't want to but I'm just So, yeah, holy shit ak eem Um and then underscore underscore Ali. Oh my god, you know, you know, I instagram show you a whole bunch of Really want to see yeah This is the one time I can bless when it's late instagram show me something and I was happy to see it I was scrolling and just scrolling and then they threw something in now in the algorithm and having to be a king Man, I'm coming from far Before I saw him on the 85 south and then I just followed him and been there ever since Hey, bro, he got one of them pages. This is infectious, bro. Yeah, I appreciate that We're supporting everything you do man. You know on that dog if we weren't already and everything man Like I said before I appreciate you coming to the show this ain't the first in a damn show Ain't gonna be the last time that shout out to 85 south Shout out the channel 85 shout out the jack the ruler dot com Shout out the dj t-rex. Shout out the goddamn dj Uh, uh, where's the dj? Shout out to my home girl Shout out the chrissy. Shout out the tea. Shout out the botany man, shout out to red diamond man, and he still said it last I did it again. I did it again Oh, shout out, you know what she actually was the first person that you could have name right here She could have went Hey, you say you're gonna say the best Everybody want a movie man Oh my god, give me right Holy cow Holy cow, give me right. Hey, man. We're gonna see you next time man. This is Jack Hey, let's take some pictures real quick You