 So we had the SID display week here at Radiant, and who are you? I'm James Wheeler. So what are you showing here? Sure, this is our two-camera system for essentially measuring OLED devices. So we have two cameras because the resolution of these devices is just so high that we're going to need two of our highest resolution photometers to measure this. But essentially we measure one half of the display with each camera and we stitch those two images together. Is it very high megapixel or? That's right, these both are 29 megapixel each. And then what's special about those machines right here that you have? So essentially they're just super high accuracy imaging photometers. So very low noise, so you got a great signal noise ratio, high dynamic range. What's a photometer compared to like a camera or something? So essentially a photometer means you can only get brightness information out of it. You can't essentially see what type of color it is. For color you'd want to use an I-series, but for the specific application it has to be the Y-series. Are you checking if the AMOLED display is in uniform intensity of brightness? Exactly, so typically for monochromatic LEDs that's used in the sub-pixels due to the manufacturing process it's very hard to achieve consistent brightness output for each individual sub-pixel. So what we can do is we can step through with our software, we can measure each half of the display, and we can have a sequence built up here where we can measure the brightness at each varying gray level for each color. And then from that information with our algorithms we're able to create correction factors that we could push to a manufacturer's display and then they could essentially level out the display so it looks very uniform to the eye. So how do they level out? This is OLED, right? That's right. The AMOLED smartphone market. So how do you improve their displays? Is that what you do? Exactly, so using this kind of system what we would do is calculate those correction factors and then we would push that to their display. So however way they have it set up to where they could handle the data that we would give them, they could use those correction factors to then scale each individual sub-pixel by the appropriate amount such that to the eye it looks very uniform. Would they have a machine like this in the factory or you have this in your headquarters and you just remotely help them? No, so it'd be in their factory. That'd be a total complete turnkey solution we provide to the customer. Do they have to check every single phone or no? Like what for every batch of displays? Sure, I mean it all depends on the customer's needs but typically that would be something they'd want to do ideally is to check everyone along that process. Nice, and let's walk over here. There's a cool machine around here. Let's go through this machine right here. So this is part of our new advanced vision technology that we've got going on right now. So essentially this is just simulating a product assembly line and so what we're able to do is as it's continuously moving we're still able to capture images really quickly. Over the PCB and everything inside? That's right. So this is kind of the stage where it's being assembled still. Is this real production product like it's out there? That's right. So as you can see from these images as they go through we take an image and then you're able to detect the presence or you know non-presence I guess of certain components like if they're missing or if they're not in the right position that kind of thing so we can automatically detect all these things like different tables. Is this an AI algorithm? That's right, we have advanced algorithms used to kind of detect each of these components and with this new platform you're able to kind of drop in different types of you know find certain shapes or find a barcode that kind of thing. So that's your slogan, see the difference. Is it a lot about vision, measuring stuff? It's all kinds of applications including take the strut off that's just for the harsh lighting. So yeah, so we're really trying to branch out to all kinds of different markets. Historically we've been more into the typical flat panel display inspection measuring the brightness and color of those but you know recently with all this new emerging technology for things like augmented reality and virtual reality we're really trying to create new optics for instance so this is our own in-house design for a lens that actually simulates the human eye so we have an entrance people of the lens that's right at the end of the lens rather than typically in the back as is normal for regular lenses but this allows you to get it right in the goggles so it simulates just like an eye would see so you can actually see a field of view out to and then you can analyze the performance of these VR headsets. That's right so we can actually analyze the performance in a fully assembled complete product rather than you know analyzing that at just you know at the lens level you know kind of disassembled. What is this one? So this one is kind of similar to the OLED dimer solution the two camera solution we just talked about specifically that we're showcasing you know this new emerging technology which is the micro LED very similar to OLED devices except you know they can essentially very tiny LEDs and on a very flexible thin film that are used for back lighting for all kinds of different devices. So you are ready for the micro LED? That's right. And if you walk around a little bit more over here so this one is testing tablets? Yeah so unfortunately right now we're having an issue with the motor to control this turntable but the whole point of this demo essentially is just to showcase that we're leaders in kind of you know the whole production process so we can integrate with a customer's fixtures for like the production line so we can communicate with the fixture to control things such as automatic loading of the DUTs, the displays under test and then you know based on that we can automatically trigger image acquisition and then running the special analyses that they want to run for qualifying these types of devices. For tablet kind of devices? Yeah exactly, it could be really anything and this is just kind of highlighting the fact that we're well versed in integrating with these special fixtures. So how much does it cost one of those cameras? Or they're not cameras right? Yeah they're cameras. CCG based. Is there a secret? There'll probably be a question for a sales guy but yeah. It's something that factories buy. That's right, yeah. It's not for like reviewers of consumer electronics. Could they be using that to kind of like have numbers on their reviews that says this is a better phone than that one because it has a better display? Yeah no this is definitely, this is like a scientific great camera so it'd be kind of too expensive for the normal people. Yeah that's right. Let's go over here. This is for the HUD. So for this one we're measuring an aftermarket heads up display that you can fix right on top of your dashboard and then so it has a projected image out a few feet that we're able to actually capture that image and then run some special analyses on that as well. So for instance you can kind of see too we have an image right now of this pedometer that it projects out we're able to capture that and we can we can automatically detect each part of that image and run specific analyses on that. Sparkle. So this is another automotive related kind of setup here where based on these anti-glare and anti-reflective coatings that get placed over automotive displays that really helps to cut out the glare and things but it causes this, it might be kind of hard to see but it causes a kind of modeled recall like a sparkly effect on the front of the panel so we're able to capture images of these and then run our tests to essentially characterize the amount of sparkle that's apparent to the human eye and then rank these so we can really essentially matching up to a human visual inspector to characterize which DUT is better. Where are you based? The headquarters. So we're based in Redmond, Washington. And does the whole display industry everybody uses Radiant? Pretty much for the world leaders in display inspection. World leader. There's another one here. That's right. This is a big one. This is another one of our brand new optics here so we have a flat panel display conoscope lens so it's essentially able to in one measurement capture the light emission at all angles up to plus or minus 70 degrees so rather than traditionally requiring the device to be mounted to a goniometer where we could rotate the display up to 360 degrees and then capture the output at all those angles that can be very time consuming so this is able to do it in one shot at least up to plus or minus 70 degrees. It's a special new lens design just for this application. That's right. And what's next? What's the biggest challenge right now? This is kind of it. It's trying to meet the demand of our customers. There's so much new emerging technology like augmented reality. Markology. Exactly. Automotive is really kind of exploding with new stuff like the instrument clusters, heads up displays. Flexible displays. That's right. Flexible ones. Are you going to be measuring those? That I guess remains to be seen so we're still kind of exploring all of our options. There's so many things like the crease, the flex, the performance of those plastic-based displays that kind of hang out. There's so much you could be doing I guess with the factory automation stuff. That's right. And that is kind of the biggest challenge I guess is trying to respond to the market changes and being there first with the leading technology that we can offer. So you have an R&D? Yeah, that's right. R&D, what do you do? So I'm typically more responsible for the software so for kind of that turntable thing I'd be more responsible for helping create essentially a custom solution for a customer where they have very specific needs on the fixed stream. They need something specific to happen when, you know, how they want to control the camera, especially as adults they might want to get out of that. So I'm kind of involved in that process. And your company is involved in Asia and everywhere? That's right. All over the world. A lot of market share in Asia.