 Hey guys, welcome to Rotorite. Here we usually fly five inch freestyle drones, which as you might know are pretty big, but recently we released the Vision 40, which is a really small tiny loop style drone. So Vision 40, 40 refers to the prop diameter. So these are 40 millimeter props, super small. These things are awesome. It has a 2S battery and it carries the Avatar HD system. Yeah, so we came out with this drone. It has the 2S battery, Avatar HD in a teeny package. It's been pretty awesome. It's really awesome for like flying in a place like this. Recently, we released the Vision 40 1S. Okay, so same drones. Same exact drone. Couple tweaks, right? I mean, it's the same size, right? It's literally the same thing except for the 1S. So it'll have 1S motors. So that means it's gonna be less powerful? Well, I mean, so what the motor is up in KV, right? The motors went up in KV. So the 1S version has a 22,000 KV motor and the 2S has a 14,000 KV motor. Today we're gonna test both 1S versus 2S. We're gonna see kind of which one we like better. Yeah, I mean, we've been having a ton of fun with the 2S. It's been up for a while now. And I don't know, I think we'll see how the one I haven't flown. I haven't flown either one, to be honest. So I'm really excited. I hate micros. You do, I genuinely hate micros. You famously hate micros. Yes. You're like, give me five inch or give me death. That's true. So we'll see maybe all. Maybe we'll change our mind. Have you flown the 2S yet? I haven't flown. All right, let's start out with that. Because this thing rips. Is this 60 frames or isn't this like with the 1S VTX? Don't you get like lower frames? No, you gotta help the beautiful frames. I thought there was something about where like you didn't get the full frame or something. Well, you get the full frame rate. And we've got these updated on these firmware. So we've got audience mode working. I'm going to be able to ride along with you. Hey. Did you do the stair dive? Oh yeah, I was going to do the stair dive. Let me warm up with a little hat. I like this good throttle. And out. Oh. Oh, nice. Let's go. Oh my God. Oh my God, this is shredding. This is the most part I've had in a long time flying. It's so good. Yeah. It's fine. Yeah. You good? Is it dead? Is this genuine? All right. I like micros if it's like this. Yeah. Genuinely. 2S. I really like that. I'm going to have Bernard build me one. Yeah, that is like, I'm excited to fly the 1S. But so again, I hate about micros. It's normally, they're very underpowered and you don't have HDs because it's just such a small size. So you have that power back. And I was expecting like with respect to your dribblet, which I really liked the way it flew. It just, it felt like after 20 seconds, the power was just not there because you're on a small battery. Or with this, I don't know. It felt like the power you were holding after a drive. It's got a lot less weight. You know what I mean? It's so much lighter. There's a lighter weight. I mean, it's fast. So if you ran, if you ran into Bubby's face, it wouldn't be a good day. I wouldn't want to get hit by that. But it's not like, it's not like open prop. Like it's not really like, don't do it. Yeah, don't intentionally do it. But if it does happen. Oh my God. Let me get a pack in there. He got it. He got it. Yeah. Of course. Nice. All right. I'm out of for this. You got this. Oh yeah. Like that just looks like super cool. Oh yeah. Yeah. And then you can come right in here. And you know about the secret gap, right? Up over this. Oh. We always get stuck. We have some history with that gap. Woo. Okay. Oh, I need to try out the 1S. Oh yeah. It looks good though. I know you said it's got almost too much power, but when you're controlling it, it's almost like you, it's in a sweet spot. Sorry. You know what I mean? Yeah, I know. I just think like. Yeah. Yep. Yep, power loop. That actually was a sick line though, power looping. Yeah. I mean, it wasn't like super clean, but I did it. You did it. I could say it for hours and one of these things. Oh, lines to try out. Oh, that was fun. I like playing with these things. These little micros are fun when you're with a group of people. It's nice to have a good space to have obstacles, because it's kind of boring if you're just like in a. This is definitely the ideal situation. We've got like the dream place to fly. And you've got buddies that are pushing you on to do things. That's the best part of flying is when you got people with you. Right. So you got to try this. Yeah. So not only do you have to get one for yourself, but you got to get one for all your buddies too. That's true. That's fun. That's funny. That was a good run. See, like this thing, it has speed, but it just still feels a little heavy. That's the biggest thing for me. And it is fast. The 2S is really fast. Oh, yeah. If you want speed. Oh my. So fast. Like that would hurt though if I hit you. Oh, yeah. Ask Gordon. Shit. Dang. Oh, how did I miss that? Bobby's also a good one to talk to because he has the Bobito. So he flies micros all the time. I will say just the 40 millimeter prop versus 35 millimeter prop. The Bobito is 35 millimeter. This has like so much power. And like I think it's good for like the whole size of a house. The Bobito is really good for like a room, which is actually what I usually fly on in. Like literally just one room. We'll take that up to one room. Okay. So I posted a video from here on my YouTube channel, just literally just this one room. And I'm going to be honest, I cannot do any of that stuff with this drone inside the small. I mean. TV dive, TV dive, TV dive. I mean with the Bobito I literally dive this in power. So the sterile dive. Boom. Oh, what did I, what did I, what happened? What happened? You had to sense the power. Yeah, a lot of power. I want to fly the 1S and see how I like that comparatively. All right. 1S, here we go. First time. Oh my gosh. Wow. Dude, I feel like this one has more power almost. I mean, it definitely feels more nimble. Probably the light, lightness of it. Yeah, it's so light. I mean, mathematically it just does not have no power. No, it doesn't make sense. But the light weight in it. Whoa. Doesn't have a better power to weight ratio. That's the real thing. The KV rating of a motor refers to how fast that motor will spin for a given voltage. So a higher KV motor will spin faster than a lower KV motor at the same applied voltage. So we're going to a smaller 1S battery versus the 2S battery. So it's got half the voltage. We're looking at 4.2 fully charged. Yes. Single cell battery. And I mean, what's the difference in KV again? You just said it. 14,000 for 2S and 22,000 for 1S. So it's not quite doubled. To make it the same, you would double the KV. But that's not the only element here. There's quite a bit of weight difference, right? Yeah. I mean, there's a big difference. I mean, just because it's 1S doesn't necessarily mean that it's going to be worse, right? Because you also have a lot lighter of a drone on 1S with a smaller battery. Especially on this size too. We're not talking like our 5 inch quads. You know, these things are super duper light. I mean, this has got to be well under 100 grams, right? Oh, it's like 40 or something. Yes, 40 very little. So you save like 5, 10 grams on a quad like that. That's a huge difference. Right. So the idea is you're going to get better performance because it's a lot lighter weight. Potentially better performance. I don't know what's going to be better. I mean, the thing with these micro drones is this balancing act of creating something that has good flight characteristics but feels appropriately sized for an indoor spot. You wouldn't want to rip your 5 inch freestyle drone in your living room. It's way too much, right? Yeah. Way too fast. So you'd want a teeny drone that handles well but sometimes it might be even still too underpowered and too heavy for your living room, right? So what's that sweet spot of having enough power where you can cruise around your coffee table but not so much that you're risking damaging your property, right? Yeah. So I'm going to fly the 1S now. I just flew the 2S. I'm really excited about this because it should be a little bit lighter. So you know how I'm about weight. Yeah. You might like this one better. Could you barrel it? Yeah. Can you imagine it being any better? Like what do you think? Do you think this is going to be better or worse? No, I think it'll be worse because it's going to sag out really fast. Let's see. I think it'll sag out in like 30 seconds. It'll feel good for 30 seconds. It loves the 2S. Yeah, the 2S is good. Yeah, the 2S is good. The 1S doesn't even have a shot. All right. I'm excited. Wow. It's got some power. Dang. It took off like nothing. Wow. Okay. It sounds quiet too. I like how quiet it is. Wow. Yeah. What is this? What all the hot? I don't know. It's just so the power curve is much different. It's the drone feels better. Like it's a lot lighter. It's a little smoother. I like how quiet it is. And the power is good. It's just you don't have that low end power like you did on the 2S. So it's just it right now it's I'm just more feeling it out. But like take it up to the upstairs area like around the furniture. Yeah, I did. And it felt great up there. Yeah. I don't know if it would be better up there. It's so quiet too. It's so quiet. It's not so much quieter it is versus. Like tiny whips are annoying sometimes without it. But this sounds really, really lower pitch I guess. Yeah. It's not as annoying. It's nice. I feel like we've got two indoor areas. We have the tight upstairs which is kind of more like what you find in a house. And then we've got this warehouse drone play place, right? So is one better for the other? I don't know. I feel like the 1S would be better in a tighter area. I feel like the 2S if you have a big, big area is going to feel just a little bit better having that power. Yeah. But it's hard to say. I mean this thing also shreds. It's fast. It's very... Bobby's getting me out. Can you do a... See if you can do a... What do you want me to try? It's so smooth. What can I think? A little more prop wash on the water. See if you can do anything inverted. Anything like a backwards type trick. Okay. Let me do like a vany roll or something. Sure. Try that. That was so smooth. That was ridiculous. What about a vany roll? That was so smooth. I just vany rolled through the hoops. Matty flip it. There you go. Yeah? Yeah, that was... I withdrew it. It's hard. Let me try one more. I get what he's saying. Because you go immediately into prop wash. Especially on the 1S. That was good. That was a good one. That was a good one. Woo! I like that in there. Nice. This is fun. That vany roll through the hoops though was... Yeah, that was smooth. Yeah, that was nice. I'm going to try one more clean stair dive. I want to end one minute. Yeah, do it. All right. Here we go. Almost. So close. I'm good. I'm good. Hold on. Hold on. Terlman. I guess the 1S meets Alex Vanover. That was... Vanover approval. That was perfect, bro. That was perfect. Heck yeah. One more vany roll through the hoops. It looks so trippy as you're rolling with the hoops. How are you? How are you? How are you? How are you? How are you? No. Matty flipped it through, Matty flipped it. Matty flipped someone? Matty flipped it- Oh my god! We got him. Hold on. Let me do it the other way so I can pump... I appreciate- I appreciate your conservativeness there. You got this. You've got this again? Yeah. Here we go. Ah! This is the most fun I've had on Aquaman a long time. Yeah. This is so much fun. I definitely think I like the 1s more nice. I mean I definitely like going down side of the 1s is I would want a lot of batteries yes the flight time is going to be less but it's reasonable you know yeah I'm gonna land it just before I kill it that is the most fun yeah you did all the things nothing else we can even do with that yeah it's gotten garbage so that was fun that likes 1s or 2s 1s when I would say if you want if you have a really big space I say have an airplane hangar or something like that big big space you probably want the 2s but I like a front yard maybe yeah maybe a front yard if you're gonna plan on flying it outdoors if you're gonna stick strictly to indoor flying and you have like a small to medium or even large-sized space definitely the 1s it's very very smooth both of them were very smooth very well tuned so hats off to Tyler who's obviously the tune master on all things not just tiny whoops but definitely the 1s flew really good a little bit less low in torque a little less low in power but man it just feels really smooth in the mid-range and I'm really blown away I could keep flying for hours the most fun I've had with a micro by far the most fun I've ever had indoors nice I mean for sure I want you guys to fly it though because it it's fast I mean it doesn't feel slower than you know it for sure yeah oh my gosh I it's way more controllable so 1s yes whoa you know whoa this has plenty of power no you know what what no this is plenty of power for what how is this 1s it's so much more controllable in here like I just like split us a TV flying around through the chairs so you're gonna get this power loop band power loop that table in there yeah 1s for me so are we all yeah 1s 1s 1s for me yeah I'd say 1s I mean I think if you're good I mean both of them are fun and if you're gonna fly mainly warehouses and then also try to take it outside you're gonna want the 2s I think this the 1s is probably too lightweight we're going outside I mean let's actually get a weight difference here we have a scale yeah so 1s battery we got 13 grams mm-hmm the 2s battery double literally literally double which makes yeah and the drums about the same way I waited the booby-toe basically and then the 1s drone I think they're gonna be pretty similar yeah 32 and the 2s drone maybe a little bit more and more with the cable 36 yeah you know because it's got the three grams difference yeah just because the cable while you got three more grams out of this drop voltage kept basically the same way but you're you're saving 13 grams about right yeah 16 you're saying about 16 because what yeah so just so we're at 59 on the 2s and 48 so 11 grams 11 grams you say wow that's crazy that 11 grams makes that 11 it's like yeah 50 grams like 11 grams you can you can feel it in your hand too I mean oh yeah yeah I felt it in the air oh yeah yeah I mean I personally don't care about an extra 10 grams or so on a 5-inch no I just don't think it matters but when it comes to these little drums every gram makes a difference I really don't think about one gram out of 40 is a significant percentage yeah of the weight you're gonna really feel it and you do and I think that the 2s might have an edge if you're flying it in a big space and maybe you're gonna try and take it outside but the 1s I mean I just think it's perfect because it handled this big space perfectly yeah and when you're trying to do certain tighter tricks felt like you had more control I think the one is there's I mean you took it upstairs into the smaller area you definitely had more control I think the 1s is gonna be great for anything indoors honestly that's what that's what I felt like because in this big place it still felt like I had tons of power yeah you know anything maybe outdoors definitely go to us but indoors I think 1s is just the way to go I just think it's like your expectation you're thinking 1s you're gonna punch it you're not gonna get anything but in reality you get this thing in here yeah yeah yeah it was very peppy yeah yeah so whichever version you think is better we got them both available at Rotorot.com they are a lot of fun well you guys saw the footage maybe you guys have flown both for yourselves leave a comment down below what do you think which is better 1s or 2s I think we're all pretty you know yeah yeah I'd say one of the rare times yeah one of the rare times that we're all in a game about the lower voltage yeah now we're on agreement about low weight yeah we're not saying we're not saying we're not saying we're necessarily right maybe we're wrong we're not but maybe we are leave a comment down below let us know what let us know what you think tell us how right we are or how wrong you are but thanks for watching I'm let's flair see I'm Alex Vanover I'm Lydredd I'm Bobby FPV and we'll see you next time on Rotoriot