 So I said to him years ago, well, you invested cases for the British government, like what are your top cases? And he said Reynolds from Forrest, 1980, December, was the landing of an object that the officers came up and touched, crazy case, and Calvin, which happened in 1990. And he said, I said, tell me about this Calvin, he said, well, there were two hikers and they, it was August 1990. And they were hiking up on the hills in a little town called Calvin, C-A-L-V-I-N-E. And apparently they were illegally poaching, but that's another story altogether. They came upon a sort of disc or diamond shaped object that was hovering about 200 feet, which would be what, 70 meters, something like that, off the ground, totally silent, large, and they didn't know what they were looking at. I mean, they got some cover under a tree, they were kind of hiding out, freaked, what is this thing? They really didn't make any sound, didn't have any air disturbance. And then one or two Harrier jets came in and flew around it, at which point the guy, one of the witnesses had a camera and he took a film camera and he took six shots of this object as the Harrier jet went around it. Moments later the object, according to the two witnesses, accelerated from here and went straight up into the sky at an unearthly speed and it never made any noise or caused any air disturbance and the jets were gone. So they arranged to have the photographs taken to the local newspaper. The local newspaper was going to run the story with the six photographs. They reached out to the MOD and the RAF for comment, hey, we're going to run this story on these guys that claim to see this thing. And could you give us a comment? And this guy was the Royal Air Force press officer by the name of Craig Lindsay. And the reason why we know this is because this guy, David Clark, is an extensive research on this case. Thank you, David. David Lindsay says, well, how can I make a comment? I haven't seen the photograph. I haven't seen them. And the local paper says, well, we'll send you one of the prints. So they did send him this print and it was August 1990, sends the print off to this guy, Craig Lindsay. And he says, wow, okay, this is interesting. This is not your typical UFO report. Every time you hear a UFO report, you're always expecting like a little blobby, a little, little white blob off of the, you know, this is a structured craft, broad daylight, points of reference, a military jet flying around it. I mean, this is exceptional. So he somehow the MO, so the RAF, he starts to look into it. He contacts the Ministry of Defense, the Ministry of Defense steps in, tells Craig Lindsay at the RAF, hey, we got this, you can step down. And so at which point Craig Lindsay had already met with at least one of the witnesses and possibly both of the witnesses and interviewed them. Okay. So he got their account. He's got a photograph. So Craig Lindsay is now out. Okay. Now the MOD steps in and they get all the photographs, the story never goes to print and the witnesses vanish. So I'd heard about that. To me, it seemed like a clear cut story that it was covered up. And I said to Nick Pope, where are the photographs? He says, well, we had one of them blown up in this huge poster on the inside of the MOD office where we investigated UFO reports. I said, well, what happened to that? Kind of like shrugged his shoulders. I don't know, you know, and I harassed Nick for quite some time, probably the better part of two decades. And then again, thank you, David Clark. The research of David Clark finds the RAF officer Craig Lindsay. Just last year, Craig Lindsay happened to have kept that print for 33 years and out it came in a roundabout way. So now we have one of the six copies of the film footage, but we're looking for the witnesses to come forward again today, which is it was August 1990. And what do we know? August. Two years ago. Yeah. August 2023. Right. So, so I have something by chance, any of these people are watching or they've told maybe their sons by chance, they know this story. How can they contact you? How do you go about that? There's a very specific thing I'd like to read if I may because it's really important that I get this right. And this came in from, well, you know, I might have to keep them anonymous. So let me let me read this. OK, here's what we know. And this is we don't know this to be factual or anything I'm going to say here, but it's just we think Kevin Russell. It says care of Kevin Russell on the back of the photograph. I sent you one of the videos. You can play it on the back of the photograph. We don't think it was the original of the two witnesses. He was most likely a friend who acted as a middleman and took the images to the Scottish Daily Record. The two witnesses were illegally poaching and had taken pictures of their kill immediately before seeing the object. Source stated that the film reel showed their kill before the six images. Defense intelligence visited the two witnesses and colleagues stated that they were visibly shooken. One left the area to live with his mother on the west coast of Scotland. There were two Harrier jets caught in the six photographs. We're led to believe that one was RAF and the other was US Marines. Again, we don't know for sure. No trace of these jets has been successful, certainly in the public eye. I brought this up with Nick Pope at the Ministry of Defense. He's still restricting on what he can say, but this is just a couple of days ago. And Nick said to me, perhaps there's data missing in the official Ministry of Defense files that even himself was unable to get access to. In other words, they could have found those pilots. They could have given their testimony and that could have been all classified. We don't know source until it's found a very clever way to cover up the entire case of the M.O.D. covered up the entire case. Some people say that it could be some super secret or radar reflector. Craig, Lindsay, Nick Pope, don't believe that explanation, but we don't know for sure. So if anyone is out there, please, pretty please with sugar on top. Even if you want to do it somewhat anonymously, you can find me on Twitter at at James C. As in Charlie Fox at James C. Fox, my feed is open. I'm tempted to give my email address out as well, because if they don't want to go on to Twitter, but I'd have to say. They can message me on Instagram. They can. Well, James English, too. They can message me on Twitter, Facebook and I've got an email there where the team watches, where people can just click the email. OK, just thinking for other options for yourself, I would turn myself into a pretzel to be able to meet those witnesses. So please, if you're listening to this, please come forward. If anyone has any information on this case, please, pretty please with sugar on top, come forward.