 Welcome to Toffey TV, I am delighted to say I am sat next to an Everton legend on that one. Title League, Titles, FA Cup, Charity Shields, European Cup when there's Cup, scored goals for fun, created goals for fun. If only, it did happen. For you younger viewers it did happen, it did happen. I'm joined by Trevor Steven and the Seedle planks for taking the time. I'm delighted to be with you. I just want to ask you about obviously the on-going stuff right now with that Everton of facing. There's obviously a lot of uncertainty over the ownership and we're waiting. Who knows when we'll find out whether that happens. But the ten-point thing has really put us all in a very nervous state. You were at Godderson the other day towards the Palace game and you can't feel that edginess. I thought it was quite flat the other night at Godderson. I think people are beating down. But how do you think you, the coach, there's a player with that ten-point shaking off and dropping into a candle at relegation zone? I don't know. To be quite honest with you, it's kind of affecting us now. It didn't affect us immediately when it was fresh. We had some momentum at that point and we clawed those points back, didn't we? But it's a long old season and form comes and goes and we just had that tricky period where confidence levels have gone down. And we just need one win to, I think, if we get a win it'll stabilise everything. But you can't wish for it, you've got to earn it. And we didn't earn it on Monday night. We struggled literally from the first whistle, which was disappointing, but I could see what it was. I mean, it's just a lack of confidence in the group. And it didn't go out. Sean Daish would have sent the players out thinking that they've got it. But you can never quite tell until you get out there and the referee blows the whistle. And it wasn't a great watch, was it? It was very poor and very frustrating, I think. It did have enough chances to win it, but it just wasn't that intense. When you first come into our side, we were struggling a little bit, weren't we? Isn't it difficult place to play at times as a player? It can be absolutely the best or it can be pretty well down the bottom as well. And the expectation levels of Evertonians is always high and rightly so. You've got to reach for the stars, haven't you? That's why we play the game as well. But it was an uncomfortable ride when I first joined back in 1983, summer of 1983. And we couldn't find form and we struggled and I came out of the team for a considerable period and then got back in. But you've just got to grind it out. And this is why Sean Daish is the right man and the right job at the right time. But he really is. We have to stick to what we do well. Sometimes we're going to let ourselves down. We did that on Monday night, I think. And just go and try and shut out all the noise. And I think that's again, that's been a bit of a problem. How long has it been in the news that we're going to hear tomorrow or the next couple of days? It should be by this week or it's going into the next week about this 10 points thing. That is having an effect although I'm sure Sean has seen just blocking out the difficulties players. But we just need to get that level of performance back. That's solidity and I'm sure we'll be fine. It's not a racking, I'll be honest with you. I went down to have a look at the showroom on the new stadium yesterday. And even that in itself is a pressure on these current players. Because you don't want to be the ones who are not going to deliver this club into that stadium when we have to move from Goodison. All sorts of things in the players' minds at the moment I would think. Do you find it crazy that there doesn't seem to be a set date though to hear for this? Obviously. And all processes take time. Like you just said it, we keep it. I'm guessing like anybody else. But it's always in your thoughts isn't it? I keep checking on my phone or whatever. Because they said it's going to be tomorrow or the next day. And you just check and you wait for it to bounce up on your phone. Or get a call from someone. What's your thoughts on this? Don't be waiting and waiting and waiting. It's uncomfortable. It's not fair. It's not fair. It does have a knock-on effect. But what will be will be. And I can't second guess. I really can't. I almost can. You were just talking there about obviously Goodison can be difficult and it can be amazing as well. And I just think that we've won three home games all season. That's next time you take the pity to March. Which isn't snuckled for Everton football club. Home form, you look at the games we've got. We've got six home games left. One's the derby so that one can take care of it. But the other five are winnable for Everton. We're going to have to utilise Goodison in a way that we didn't. Because otherwise that normally keeps teams away from any danger. Doesn't it? The home form. Three wins in 13 this season. It's not good enough. It's not what you want. But I'm going to be really boring here. You can only deal with the next game. A home or away. Doesn't matter. They've got three points there to win. And don't look beyond that. Honestly it's not worth it. I know the fans have to. And they're plotting down how many points we might actually get. And how many points we'll get back from the deduction. Just we need to take care of ourselves. Take care of the next game. Take care of business. And the fans have got to stick with the club. And not look too far down the line. Just deal with the next game. That's when we're going to get as much energy behind the team as we can. Because we need that. Sometimes we were running around for no purpose. Sometimes I thought in the game on Monday night. It means the heads have gone a bit. We need to get back to being collective. And that means with the crowd as well. I'm still confident we're going to stay up. I really am confident. No matter what happens, points wise. And that's how you need to think about it. Forget about points, back points away. Just go and win the next games. Sounds easy. I'm just saying it. It's an almighty effort, but we're capable of that. You've been there, don't you? You're just mentioning Gwdysgwm Park. How much are you going to miss it when we go? Because obviously you had some great days and night days. And you're buying me an itch. Probably the best game I've ever been to in my life. For memories and noise and everything. It's going to be difficult for me, isn't it? Honestly, there are people in those stands that have been watching there for 40 years. I was there ever since for six years. I had the thrill of playing inside the white lines, which was amazing. But we have to move on. It has stood the test of time because if you ask any professional players, one of, if not the favourite ground to play away at is Gwdysgwm Park because it is special. It's just got something that you can't bottle. And that is what I will remember. I'll obviously remember. The Gladys Street to me has always been the thing. I've scored the biome unit goal in front of the Gladys Street. And the power that that place has. Hopefully that can be recreated in the new stadium. It might take a little bit of a while to do so. But just a fantastic experience to play in that ground. And I'm glad I had the privilege to do so. And then just leading on to that. You've obviously been and had a look at the new stadium. I mean, what does that look like to you? I mean, it looks like it's going to be incredible, doesn't it? I'm so delighted. We didn't build in other parts of the city. We're looking back at it now. And we've ended up with this amazing building. It's iconic before it even is opened. It's going to bring a live that part of Liverpool as well. It'll be fantastic. It'll be great. And I think we'll settle into it pretty quick. But the pressure's on to stay in the Premier League. I said earlier that that is a pressure in itself on the players. But we are going to have a stadium that is like the weather for sure. The setting of it is... You can have a really creative mind about what you can do with that. As a venue as well. I'm looking forward. But for the moment, let's enjoy going to some park whilst we've got it. Yeah, definitely. And just tell us quickly about what you're doing now. Yeah. I'm never good at being quick on this subject. No, no. You don't have to be quick. I don't want to keep you any longer. I'll tell you what it is. A friend of mine has a very big company called Cosway Technologies. He's a digital technology at the construction. He also helped bring Everton Howard's way to life. The movie. Phil Brown comes from Alfa, a massive Evertonian. I happened to be his favourite player back in the day. And we are exactly the same age as 60. Both of us are 60 this year. And Phil asked me if I would get involved in a mental health campaign that focuses on the suicide rates and construction. And so I was living over in Dubai at the time when he contacted me and I came back to take up this role. And between us, we are trying to bring construction, mental health and football into a triage of things. I probably had a fourth part to that, which is government. And we're trying to find ways of how we can stop this ridiculous suicide rate in increasing. It's sitting at 600 roughly last year, which is a huge number of people within that industry of taking their own lives. So we're working on a campaign to help that drive to bring those numbers down, make mental health and construction look completely different from where it is at the moment because it is a crisis at this moment time. And the draw towards football is because there are so many construction workers who work in the industry but are football fans in their DNA. You've got their local team, whoever that may be. So that's what we're doing. I'm working on a campaign. Frank McKenna from Downtown and Business has helped me, a well-known face in this part of the world and beyond. So he's getting me into the political areas where we can try and make those changes to procurement frameworks in local council, in local government and also further down the field into government itself where there is a compulsion, an obligation that construction companies have to support people and their mental health on site. So that is my campaign at this moment in time. I don't know if I can just mention at this stage. Everyone's. If anyone watching this who's in the construction industry in any shape or form, please go to causeway.com where we have a pledge of support on that front page. Take the pledge here. Press on that. It'll take you 30 seconds to do it and just submit. And just put your name in. Put your company in potentially. Just show that support by pressing that submit button. I'll use that pledge and Frank will help me to do it to make some kind of power to our elbow to convince and continue to convince the change has to be made and has to be made now. But as I said, if anyone who would like to support me on that, go to causeway.com, press on the pledge and I will gratefully receive that submission. Fantastic. We'll put that in the description as well. I appreciate it for people to go. I'm going to let you go. But thank you very much for your time and hopefully next time you speak. Things look a lot healthier. You're going to come on inside the game. Yeah, I'd love to come down and let's get all the stories and all the tales out. That's for another day. Absolutely. Good luck with the campaign as well. Thanks very much for your time. Trevor, make sure you click on the link. Like Trevor just said, if you're in that, the link will be below in the description. So give that a little click and get pledging to Trevor's campaign. Thanks very much for watching and see you later.