 Certainly because I think everybody should get there on their merits, not because of their gender. We have a policy in the body of trying to get up at least 50% of women, and I think that's the right way to go. We've set targets in and around that, but not this mechanism. I'd hate to see a situation where somebody got into Parliament because they were a woman and not because they were the best, and so many women after this has come out have got in contact with me to say they don't like this at all, that they feel insulted by it, their words. So I think the goal is laudable, the mechanism just simply doesn't stack up. Does Labor support the idea of affirmative action in other cases though? Look, I can see on exceptional cases in some areas perhaps, but certainly not on this. What we have to, what we want to make sure is that when somebody stands up in Parliament and speaks, people say, well that was the best person I could possibly have got that job, and I don't, we're at 42% women at our caucus, and we're not very far off the 50%, and I don't think we need in any way to get, to use this sort of a mechanism to get there. I mean, somebody said to me the other day, I mean, Megan Woods is a great up-and-coming MP for Whigrim in South Ireland. So I voted for Megan because she actually happened to be the best person for the job, not because she would have to be a woman, and that's really the guts of it, that's making sure we have the best possible person, and making sure we, as much as we can, we get as close to the can of 50% women in our caucus as well. It was interesting to me to see the Equal Employment Opportunities Commissioner and former National MP, Jackie Blue, saying that the Labour Party should actually be applauded for this idea. Are you simply playing safe on this issue for the sake of politics? No. Look, I think it's, you couldn't, you can't believe the number of women who have been in contact with me on this. I mean, none of my oldest and dearest sort of people who I, I keep touch with, 97 years old, who, a woman who, who supported me in my political career, and she said to me the other night, look David, I've occupied every single position in the Labour Party you care to mention, except being an MP, I never wanted to be an MP, and I got there because of my own merit, not because I was a woman, I just want to make sure that anything we do reflects that, and I think that speaks for, she speaks for many, many people, many women who have been in contact with me, the overwhelming number of letters I've got have actually been from women, not from men.