 Hey everyone, I am Nathaniel from the center prime and prime comments is back. I know we didn't have one last week I apologize about that holiday weekend and all of that jazz. I decided I needed to take a little bit of a break I kind of also took a break this weekend because if you remember we didn't have a video at all yesterday Besides our 5j live streams So I do want to apologize again for a little slowdown in videos lately and not having prime comments last week but we're back this week and This is being kind of dubbed the Response to haters episode Although I do want to note that I don't actually think any of the people I bring up by user name here Actually hate me or hate my channel. In fact, one of them goes on to say that they love our love our content So I just want to preface this by saying that despite the fact that we have a thing in back. This is hi hater. I Don't actually hate any of you guys and I don't think any of you guys necessarily hate me I'm sure there are people out there, but I have a feeling that when I respond here It's gonna feel like I am being very very passionate in terms of responding to haters misconceptions about me or my opinions But whatever, let's get right into it. The first thing I want to address isn't actually a comment It's several comments, which is why I'm not gonna actually read all the comments. I'm just gonna mention the video This all comes from the switch pro controller has a serious design fault Causing grinding that impacts gameplay And this is what I talked about. I don't even know if it's gonna show up because I don't have the good lighting right now But this talks about this problem here where there's grinding on the inside specifically that is causing Some catching of the controller here that's impacting gameplay now Many of you noted that obviously this hasn't happened to you Some said that this because it's not happening to you It must mean that I'm extremely hard on my sticks and some of you were actually being nice and offering solutions To fix this I heard everything from taking apart the gamepad and putting a clear pet You know a clear piece of tape around the actual stick cutting one to size and putting that around makes it You know gets rid of the issue entirely. I heard people talk about you know taking isopropic alcohol and cleaning it Which I have done before and it didn't work as well as I wanted it to To people just saying hey stop being so hard on your sticks You know pressing harder on your stick doesn't make your character move any faster. Doesn't make you any better That's what you know blah blah blah blah blah and there was a lot of comments along the lines of Essentially, there's not a design fault with the controller. It's 100% user error We hate you and we're gonna go on and watch other youtubers now because you clearly don't know what you're talking about and This comes with a heavy Like-to-dislike ratio that is not favorable to our channel now I Addressed some of this in a live stream earlier, but since our live streams are only live for our patrons after the fact I wanted to talk about it again and just mention a few things here a few misconceptions I might have been my fault because of the titling of the video or maybe I didn't explain it well enough But my issue isn't that grinding happens Grinding happens on this controller. This is my Xbox one controller that I have owned Not since launch because I did have a day one Xbox one, but this is one of the first Camo style controllers they released within the first year and I bought this as my second controller I have eventually sold my original Xbox one re-bought one, but I kept this controller This controller has a lot more hours of use in it than this one. So What I'm talking about is obviously the grinding and this controller has grinded as well I don't know how well it shows up on camera because again This isn't an ideal lighting situation to show this off, but I have grinding on every controller I've ever used in my life that has a joystick Dating all the way back to probably the first joystick. I ever used on the Nintendo 64 PlayStation 2 PlayStation 3. I have not owned a PlayStation 4 so I can't vouch for any grinding on that but there was obviously the GameCube and The Wii with the dongle attachment plus the little pro controller thing you could get You also the Wii U pro controller in the game pad the Wii U game pad and Obviously this controller and even the Joy-Cons on the switch itself which might be in the background up there on the wall I have had grinding on every controller I've ever had. I am not going to lie and say that I'm not hard on my sticks I am hard on my sticks I know I'm hard on my sticks, but I've never worn out a controller I've been gaming for well probably 25 years, but probably with joysticks for about 20 years and the very first controller I ever used that had joysticks was actually on PC back in the mid to late 90s playing Madden with joysticks and I Played with that controller for about 10 years and it never wore out In fact, the only reason I don't have it the show off right now is because I lost it Be it a kid moving around live in a different place throughout my life. I just I lost it And since Xbox controllers work on PC That's pretty much what I use on PC now as Xbox controllers. Actually this Wii U pro controller also works on PC but That's neither here nor there the issue I have is obviously that it's affecting gameplay. It's it's getting caught It's not staying stuck there. Some people reported in the comment section. It's getting stuck there But I'm like I'm not getting it stuck, but I feel resistance and then sometimes an occasional You know two to three millimeter jump and when that happens It's obviously impacting a game specifically if you're in twitchy gameplay Whether maybe it's a fighting game or if you're in like Splatoon where that little twitch movement can actually Effect your aiming and all of that jazz It's obviously a problem I know not everyone's having but I just want to emphasize that I've never had this happen on any controller my entire life So as hard as I had my my sticks and I know I'm hard There are people that are harder on their sticks than me very clearly by some of the comments made in the video about how They have had issues with this and this controller itself This particular one is only two weeks old and this is my second pro controller. It's happened to And if you actually actually take apart the pro controller What you'll notice and I have said I haven't taken apart for you now You can kind of feel it without taking it apart but this plastic you feel like on top it has it has a The soft feel in the middle and then this kind of rubberized outside that soft feel in the middle is basically Close to what the rest of the plastic on the stick feels like so what they did is they used a softer plastic on the stick And then they still have this really rough hard sharp plastic on the outside So what happens when you rub something hard and sharp against something? soft Obviously the soft thing grinds and gets kind of cut into and that's what's been happening and based on the comments for all The people that are saying that oh, I'm wrong and I'm an idiot go read the other comments There are dozens upon dozens of people just in my video in my small fan base Thursday Hey, look, this is happening to me. Hey, mine's getting stuck. Hey, mine's not getting stuck yet But the grind on it after a week is really really concerning It's it's interesting to see the dynamic between the several examples of people saying hell Yeah, this actually happens to the people say hey because it has the hasn't happened to me. It's not a problem It's your problem again I've used dozens upon dozens of stick controllers in my life And I've never worn them out and I've never had them grind to the point of affecting gameplay So that's why I say this is the design fault on Nintendo The Wii U pro controller in the game pad itself not even the joy cons grind like this so This is obviously an issue specific to this controller and specific to the choice of plastics on the sticks I don't know if these plastics are more expensive or cheaper. I have no idea But I assume cheaper since they're soft. I don't know obviously. I'm not I'm not a Plastician, I don't know the thing but I don't make plastics But yeah, it's obviously an issue of soft plastic rubbing It's hard plastic and if you're someone like me that's you know hard on their sticks, you know, some people might call this being hard on my stick That you're gonna experience that and I'm sure a lot of you guys are experiencing way more grinding on this controller Than you ever have before even if it's not getting stuck. That was kind of my point It's worse on this controller than it needs to be and it's worse than it's ever been for a Nintendo controller Save maybe the n64 n64 didn't necessarily have the stick grind But it had the the cheap the cheap plastic mechanism underneath the stick that used to break and that would cause you to have like that Wobbly stick thing and yeah, I didn't have that issue of mine Despite my heavy stick usage, but I know friends of mine that had happened to kind of a pain using those controllers And it was let's move on to the next video in comment This next video we're gonna talk about is about the switch running into a quality control problem and Nintendo should fix it dealt with a mobile game that was free to play coming out on switch that cost like ten bucks and still has all the micro transactions and all the stuff that made it a profitable venture is a free-to-play game and Gazenja Fox had this to say oh bad pricing on a mobile port This is a problem and is a sign more curation is needed from Nintendo at least on pricing But it's a long way from the asset flips or trophy such achievement farms that the other non-mobile systems have I think would GOG be in the only exception. I can think of Bering real releases though nothing about this screams that I need to have played it 10 million I don't even know what they're talking about with that, but what I can say is There are other people on here that said oh, why are you why why are you criticizing this because all other platforms do it? It's wrong for those platforms to do it to PlayStation Xbox Steam and every other platform holder out there or every other content providing platform Should not allow mobile games that are free to play on phones to come as is exactly the same product on their systems and charge a Significant chunk of change for it. Imagine that you're playing this free-to-play micro transaction mobile game That's also the same price of Super Mario Run That's what's happening It's a free-to-play game on one platform, but it's that same game plus the price of Super Mario Run on switch That's a problem to me and I it's not Nintendo's fault. Nintendo didn't choose the price Nintendo didn't tell them to charge $10 I never blamed Nintendo for choosing the price or even Nintendo allowing this game to be on the platform I have nothing wrong with mobile games coming to consoles That is not what that video was about my issue is that I feel like Someone needs to step up and say look you can't treat our customers like crap And you need to treat them fairly with the other consumers and I want Nintendo to do that I'm not going to apologize for wanting Nintendo to do that And I want to thank a gesundra fox for for kind of understanding that this is actually a problem Even though it's a problem that probably isn't going to get fixed like I want it to it's still something I felt like addressing because Things like this often don't get the attention they deserve just like there's all actually a lot of people that think About talking about the grind on the controller because no one else was talking about it And so the when no one else talks about the thing. Oh, it's just me when really it's a more common problem than you realize Even more common for some people than maybe even the issue the one won't issue with the d-pad Anyways, we'll be down The next video we're gonna talk about our next comment Comes from the two cases digital is the future of the gaming industry So let's talk about it a lot of people didn't like my opinions on that and this comes from Casual game plays they said for as long as I'm around I will always advocate for physical copies Oh, but digital is cheaper than why are they always more expensive than physical copies? Digital games never have price drops. You don't own anything besides a digital license. It's all BS You're wrong for starters Oftentimes digital games are cheaper than physical games In fact, digital games will have sales well in the physical games aren't having sales Just like physical games will have sales when the digital games don't now There is obviously issues were certain physical copies like three months out will drop to 20 bucks But it's still $60 on the on the shop That's obviously a pricing discrepancy issue that needs to be resolved, but you're wrong In fact, a big reason that PC gaming has blown up is there are many many many people out there that will argue I'm not gonna be one of them, but I've heard this argument many times that PC gaming despite how expensive it can be to say Say you invest $1,000 and you build a medium to high-end gaming rig They'll say that's really really expensive compared to buying a $300 Nintendo switch But you could go get a steam sale spend 10 bucks and get 30 games And that seems like a greater value than those same 30 games on the console side cost a new hundreds of dollars And they're not wrong I mean steam sales themselves have kind of not been as good as they used to be and now sales at places like good old games And other outlets on the internet even origin believe it or not from EA is starting to have some really good sales It's become one of those things where digital copies do sell cheaper than physical it's even happening on switch Sometimes will be that switch tax on the physical copy, but the digital copy will be the same price as other systems So it's not even true what you're saying Now you could now you it is right that you know, you're buying a digital license. It's actually funny That same digital license if you actually read the fine print It's basically the exact same license of the physical copy. The difference is that in countries that allow You know resale of things you own That license doesn't supersede your ability to sell that license to somebody else Whereas online there's no Common way to sell a license you own there are some outlets that allow you to resell a gaming a game license that you have Some places online that lets you Move a license from one account to another account again It's not very common But it does exist and as soon as that becomes a more widespread thing that point I'm being able to get some value back on your game purchase is gone And obviously there's the whole point that a lot there's still a large part of the market They just don't sell their games and I'm someone that's been selling games forever Because I've been living on a budget and I just when I need cash the easiest quickest thing to sell is my video game collection and that sucks I've even had to sell consoles because of that as well Not fun, especially since you end up spending more money because you're gonna buy re-buy that console later And ends up not being worth it But it felt worth it at the time because you have more money later than you had now Basically bad at budgeting bad Nate bad at budgeting. Don't be me But yeah My general stance is obviously that the facts point out that digital is going to be the future 76% of game sales in the United States are through digital already now that includes mobile games That was as of 2016. It's probably even higher this year, but I It's kind of a future. It's coming sometime in the next 20 to 40 years Gaming is going to be like primarily digital With some niche physical games still existing kind of like vinyl someone brought up the example of oh Yeah, that's why vinyl went away right vinyl did go away and now it's back as a niche overpriced product That's way more expensive than buying that music digitally so Yeah, I mean that's what physical games might become someday, but all digital futures coming to not here Yeah, I mean even in Japan. I think like in the month of October Odyssey sold like 560 something thousand copies only 60,000 copies of that was digital So obviously we're not there yet. There's still more physical games being sold in digital But the digital rate is growing every year that and I think that's something we have to look at closely When talking about the future of video games is that physical game sales are shrinking while digital is growing It's just when are we gonna get to the equilibrium where they're at 50-50 and then suddenly bam digital just overtakes physical It's going to happen the writings on the wall for several different reasons There's a lot of things for preventing it from being a big deal yet You could argue the size of the hard drives in the systems internet speeds The playstation xbox and nintendo e-shop all limiting your connection when you're downloading All that stuff that needs to be addressed But again, this generation is not the generation It's going to do it next generation is probably not the generation that can do it But a few generations from now we could be talking about hey look most of the games in this platform are delivered digitally I mean you could argue that now because of uh Because of indie games, but I mean through the AAA that might eventually start being triple gay games that only come out digitally. So It's happening Don't know when I love physical copies, but It is what it is And our last thing we're going to address today Uh comes from the switch could have final fantasy 14 if sony would allow cross play now before I get into this I want to note that this comment is cherry picked out of a long comment chain um That dealt with the switches first off the switches ability to run final fantasy 14 the switches ability to um Have cross play because the developers my final fantasy 14 said they want to bring the game to switch And they want to bring it to xbox one and the reason it's not happening Is because they want to have cross play between all versions of the game. So the entire player base is connected um and that uh first party studios are um Have policies in place that are preventing this from happening Which to me felt like an obvious shot at sony since sony's the only first party studio We know of publicly that has stated. They are against cross play Uh, even though uh, and it could affect this game because this game launched on playstation 4 as like a console exclusive So I'm going to get right into this comment. Um, I just want to get some context in case some things don't make a little Sense when i'm reading it and this comes from cheser cheser a hat they say I love how pc gamers say potato every time I've been playing final fantasy 14 since before they fixed the game and completely revamped it years ago But I won't waste my time since these so-called facts you made up against me Seeing as you don't have any proof of a single thing you said I've created games for a living and built a few pc's for others as well But I'm sure you'll just get upvotes simply because it's your nintendo channel Fact is sony isn't mentioned Fact is you're making excuses for nintendo and again can't prove a thing you said about your gaming experience Define what a fact is Sorry nate everything. I've said can and has been proven through the third party games alone Through all of the flamers and sheep will say otherwise if anything negative about nintendo has said I'm staying here Love your content But the nintendo bias and assumptions are just part of your charm, sir Keep believing your facts and I'll just let the actual tech speak for itself as it's done so far And said person Literally didn't say sony as you literally please use the word correctly next time Said in this video that sony was never clarified or mentioned All right So first off I am going to apologize. I have a bad habit of using the word literally when it's not actually being used correctly It's just when it's something that's an obvious connection. It's clearly what they are saying without saying it So it's not literally It's I I got to find a better word I got to find the word for whatever that is and start banging that into my vocabulary So I do apologize for using the wrong terminology but you know This is dealing with uh this is first off This entire debate that we had back and forth in the comment section dealt with Uh, whether or not this game could run on switch whether or not it could support cross play with switch Uh, and whether or not, uh, it would be a fun playable experience And like when you call out my gaming, you know my gaming experience and define what a fact is Um You were calling in the question when I talked about how I used to raid in world of warcraft 40 man raids playing One fps if you want me to back that up I can go ahead and get people to come on here that I used to raid with I can go ahead and get I think I might even Have some old now. This was when I had a slightly better computer, but it was still raiding at like sub 20 fps Uh, there's some old shaded by oblivion videos out there Um that show me uh, because I recorded them I could probably look them up on youtube somewhere because I used to I used to run the shaded by oblivion Our guild's website and youtube channel. There are some videos out there. I had better a little bit better specs And that was back when uh That was after vanilla that might have been the burning crusade or uh Oh man I can't I can't believe I'm even drawing a blink of what the second expansion pack was um But the point is is that obviously I can't go back and literally prove Everything that I said and I hope I'm using the word correctly there because I said I can't prove Everything about my gaming experience back then because I was young and wasn't obviously recording my my gameplay While I was playing when I could only one fps in the game um But when when you like here's what you say, um, they're just going over that part uh But I won't waste my time since the so-called Facts that I made up which are really weird because I didn't make up anything Are against me as you don't have any proof of a single thing you said Um, and then you claim you've created games for a living provided no proof that you've created games for a living Um that you've built a few pcs for others as well didn't provide any proof that you built pcs for other people I can provide proof that I built the pc myself this rig right over here that might be slightly off camera There's a live stream of it up on this channel of me building that computer so I I I can prove I built computers I can prove I've built a computer Uh, I can prove that I still build computers for other people Uh, but I have proof that's all I have on the internet for that. You're just saying you do So here's the thing You say these so-called facts that I'm making up. I can't prove Because I'm just saying they happen. You're just saying this stuff happens. I'm not doubting that you've made games I'm not doubting that you've built pcs. Lots of people built pcs. Lots of people programming and create games Um, I'm not even calling you a liar here. I'm just saying that you're providing the same amount of evidence for Uh, what you do as I provided for what I did as an unit provide any evidence. You're just saying you did it Can't you see how that's the same argument if you're going to call out my facts and say I have no proof for evidence You can't just then say you have done x and provide no proof for evidence It's just a bad way of arguing if you're going to try to say what I'm saying is not true because I didn't provide proof for evidence But then what you're saying is true without providing proof for evidence You see what I mean starts to become the straw man argument that, uh Is it's just silly if you're going to try to debunk me and say things like this Provide the evidence that you're saying I don't provide um, but anyways Moving me on that, uh, it says I'll still get up votes because uh, it's your nintendo channel, which I mean I think that's generally true people who really really love my channel. I'm just gonna like every comment I make It's just the way it is. Um So I'm not even gonna argue about that point. You see this on other channels as well Uh, but it says the fact is sony isn't mentioned, which is true. Sony's not mentioned Uh fact is I'm making excuses for nintendo. Here's the weird thing. This isn't even about nintendo That's the weird thing. None of this is about nintendo This is about some folks at square enix who said they want to bring this game to switch They want to bring this game to xbox one. They want to do it and they can't because of first party policies And that first party policy being that there's certain companies that won't allow cross play and there's only one company right now One first party company that doesn't allow cross play. You connect the dots there and tell me it's not sony Um, so yes, they don't literally mention sony because they are on that platform and I said in that video They're not going to throw sony under the bus But that is what they're saying. They are saying that a first party studio or they they say studio is Uh policies need to change to allow cross play and there's only one company not allowing cross play So I'm not gonna that's a fact. The fact is one first party company isn't allowing cross play They said it's because of first party policies on cross play It's sony. That's why I titled it sony. They are saying sony without saying sony Because obviously they're they're trying not to throw them under the bus But they basically are throwing them under the bus if you don't don't be stupid connect the dots use your brain here This isn't even about nintendo. That's what's so weird. None of this is about nintendo Um, this is them saying they can bring it to switch them saying they can bring it to xbox one. They are saying that I'm just saying that sony is one of the basically the primary reason it's not happening because of their cross play Stuff that they also said did they say sony by name? No, but they are the only studio or the only first party company Factually as you like to say factually blocking cross play Well, where am I wrong? Those are facts as well anyways, um So anyway, you go on to say everything that you said can be proven through third party games and a lot of to be fair To what you said you said a lot of games Don't work with cross play between pc and consoles because x y and z Ignoring the examples I gave where cross play does exist between pc and consoles Because cross play does exist between pc I mean cross play exists between certain ps4 games and pc's in fact final fantasy 14 has cross play between PlayStation 4 even the og playstation 4 and pc still to this day I know you made a point about the game running on playstation 3 and why it kind of forced people over to playstation 4 And I understand that you yourself Cannot see a possible way final fantasy 14 can run on switch at an acceptable level for cross play And I understand that I'm not doubting your experience with the game Even though you can't prove your experience with the game just like you're asking me to prove my experience of world of warcraft You're you you literally Can't prove your experience here. Well final fantasy 14 either When you say you played it here you played it there you think it's unplayable here unplayable there And I think it's like frame rate wise. There's lots of different variables in in playability Some people find 20 fps playable. Some people won't don't find anything under 100 fps playable Anyways, um, the point I was making here is that it's isn't your your passionate responses are because you personally don't see A final fantasy 14 can run on switch at an acceptable level the to have cross play My point was that the developers said they want they want to put it on switch and xbox one with cross play So you might not see a way that can be done But the people behind the game are saying they see a way it can be done So you are just doubting them not me. That's why I don't get why you're hating on me about it. Um, as for, uh You same, uh, but nintendo bias and assumptions are just part of my charm. I'm not going to say I don't have any bias I obviously do. I'm nintendo prime. There's going to be bias towards the company But I gotta say that I hate on nintendo a lot And I not hate I attack nintendo, uh, for things they do really really stupid I have chastised them over things like their voice chat app. I have killed them for what they did with Wii U Um, I was not happy with certain things. I did with 3ds Um, I wasn't happy with certain things to do with we I went after certain design choices in decisions in different games they have made Uh, more recently, I was just getting killed for going after them about the day in pro controller Um, I I criticized the hell out of nintendo because I want them to be the best version of themselves And while that doesn't make me unbiased it. I think it opens my mind because I am not It's almost my fault if I didn't if I didn't name if I didn't name this channel gaming prime instead of nintendo prime One I went to paint it myself into a corner and two, uh, maybe you won't think I'm so as biased as I am You are looking at the name nintendo prime and saying hey that that look at the name of your channel You clearly are super biased. I'm primarily a pc gamer I'm a pc gamer first and foremost I play uh when my xbox one is here, which it's not it's in the repair shop when my xbox one is here I play more on my xbox one than I do on a nintendo system Uh, before I launched this channel. I barely played nintendo games that they weren't zelda um, it's It nintendo has been kind of my least played system over the years is basically what i'm saying So it's really weird when people will call me biased because I have this passion for This company that I want to be as good as other companies stuff that I enjoy Um, but yeah in this case I I'm not I'm really going to apologize for much that I said unless I I don't think I did any personal insults to you. I hope not But yeah, I don't know I warned you guys I warned everyone. Hi hater again. 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Hopefully it's a game that comes out in january I haven't decided if I'm gonna make it the game has to come out that month or if it could be a game any game Um, at least on switch because that's the only nintendo system I own right now, but all right folks I think I've extended this video long enough Oh, I'll catch you in the next one