 what's up what's up sorry that I'm a little late things happen life happens super excited for today's class I got a special guest with me I'm gonna be cutting some hair she's gonna be guiding me along a little bit so super excited for today if you guys are as excited as I am make sure you hit the share button share it on whatever social platform that you are on I would really appreciate that also say hey say hi say say hello in the chat I see all of you guys in here what's up Ashley Sharon good to see you guys Glenis good to see you Lynn what's up Kristen what's up Nim good to see you alright guys also if you're new to this show if you've never watched a show before in your life then type new in the chat so everybody can say hello to you we're building a pretty awesome community we're 31 episodes in I'm doing this thing every single day at 12 o'clock so welcome if it's your first time and welcome back if it's not all right so I want to bring in somebody that's very special to our salon she works in our salon Danielle what's up Danielle let me put this off here hi how are you I'm good how are you good it's been like a month of Sunday since I've seen your face it's crazy right I just lost my face as as you said that my face went away it's coming back here we go so Danielle's joining us today because first off I'm gonna cut some curly hair today but I don't have a giant curly hair clientele but I do love curly hair it's one of my favorite things so Danielle's I'm bringing Danielle in for the brain and and I'm gonna try to use my hands to make make some magic today as well so any questions you guys have about curly hair we're gonna make that happen today we're gonna talk about it I've also got this lovely lady here let me see if I can hit this look at that she's right here beautiful curly hair that we're gonna be cutting today and we're gonna have some fun so Danielle Danielle does work at our salon we haven't been in the salon for almost three months pretty crazy I actually have it we've had like a meeting right yeah where we were face to face on yeah on the phone otherwise we're just texting so it's been pretty crazy what have you been doing with your your time during this whole thing lots of cooking lots of cleaning I've actually been going out and do a little nature hikes and stuff with my mom and yeah I forgot how great Cheesequake Park is okay I mean just pretty much just staying in sheltering in place doing lots of puzzles reading yeah Netflix all the usual stuff yeah for sure so so what we're gonna get into today obviously I'm gonna shape up this cut I want to create obviously there's no cut on this thing so when we look at it the the model that we have here today just kind of has some crazy curl I did shampoo it you actually had extensions in this mannequin so it was you know it was a lot of fun so it was actually a little bit of a process getting that out Danielle I'm not gonna lie so I was practicing my feet in braids yeah I love it I love it so so what I want to kind of go over today and what we're gonna do in this class is I want to shape all this up I'm gonna do it section by section I'm gonna do it dry what's happened in the past and what I kind of want to talk to you about as well is I've done curly haircuts on this mannequin this specific mannequin but every time I've done it I've done it on wet hair and a lot of people I get a lot of comments saying I would never cut that hair wet so that's something I want to talk to you about a little bit as I get into it so I'm not gonna cut it wet today and I've you know I'm gonna do a technique where we kind of cut each curl individually and then we're gonna go in and we're gonna shampoo it and then restyle it when we get done so so that's gonna be the goal today what do you have what is your thought process on cutting this type of curl if your client came in this was the hair that they had and they wanted it shaped up what would be your process for that for me it really depends on like what length they're going for so if it's say something that's like a little tighter more of a wedge cut then with that I usually do go in with it wet because I need a little bit more structure I need that base for it to sit on top of pretty much just like your regular graduation okay but when it comes to longer lengths then yeah I do do like the curl by pearl like what you're gonna do okay all right cool so um so if they were gonna wear it in more of a bob or wedge type style you're saying you would cut this wet yeah well that's usually worried like taking that horseshoe section like you do with a lot of your haircuts right and making that more structured underneath and then more free form on the top okay very cool so so what we're gonna do is I'm gonna section it off I'm actually gonna kind of section off that you shape a little bit start working from the occipital bone down so one thing I want you guys to let me see if I can pull this up here so one thing I want you guys to do is if you have a question type Q and then put your question in the chat so type Q and then your question that way we can see it in the chat and I can pull it up so that either I or Danielle can answer it as we go and that's all that we really ask so just let us know that way if you guys have any questions let's see so far um here's a question see Jess Mack my 14 year old daughter has what is that name kiwi style curly hair can you read that to you know what are your best products for curly hair she's stubborn and doesn't hey so I'm not sure where we're at with that question but Jess thank you for the question do you know what person she's talking about you know Mallory sorry who are you swatting away nobody nobody okay all right cool so um anyway all right so we'll go back to that I'm not sure the person that they're referencing so we'll have to go back to that do you know Danielle no I'm not familiar with that one okay cool so uh why is Danielle so awesome well that's very nice of you Katie I need to cut my own curly hair should I do it myself you know it's funny about looking up curly haircuts is that so much of it is done on themselves right so like most like that's kind of another reason why I wanted to do this is because when you watch any tutorial on YouTube it's basically somebody doing it on themselves literally pulling out each individual curl and cutting it so you know just to have a little bit more organization I can't even imagine trying to cut and shape curly hair in the back especially or any hair in general on myself but let's see all right Jessica those you guys that are just joining we are gonna shape up this curly head we're going to focus on I got so many cameras today I want to keep Danielle on the picture too all right so we're gonna shape up this curly head what I want to do is kind of tighten in take the shape in a little bit and especially in the back here she's got almost like these long kind of straggly pieces so I want to shape that up I'd like to bring this shape almost in a little bit and then out and create tons of volume on the top and then in the very front we're gonna create a fringe to just give it almost like a shag effect which I really like I like that big curl and then sleeker shape at the bottom that's the goal that's what we're we're going for today all right and Danielle if you see me do anything silly just call me out all right you're here for I mean I have your permission and everything but that's kind of nerve-wracking to call out boss trust me nothing nothing I need it I need it all right so we're gonna go in I'm gonna I got a couple clips here but most of what I'm gonna do is with my hand so what I want to do is I want to separate some of this curl I'm going right at the occipital bone across because that's really I still want to work with head shape and when I talk about other haircuts that I do I go through and I cut it from the occipital bone because that's where the head starts to curve back away so I want to do the same thing when I section this hair away as well so we'll clip it up in a way we've got our first little section makes things for me a little less daunting as I'm going through this curly hair is just this section it separated section by section we'll clip it up in a way all right so now we talk about cutting individual curls what I want to do is I've got all these kind of individual curls throughout it right so I'm gonna go in with my scissor and I'm just gonna start cutting so I want to shape up the bottom so we'll hold these little curls in our hand I'll pull them down one by one and I want to decide my length so I get my length here and then what I want to do is I kind of want to work this shape up or in first and then out if that makes sense so now what I'm gonna do let's see zoom in a little bit here I get some good vibe tunes going can't cut hair in the quiet so now what I'm doing is I'm stretching out the curl but I'm aware of where it's gonna spring back to so I stretch it out and I cut it and it pops in do the same thing here shaping it so I pretty much do the same thing as you were like every time that I would make that cut I would give it a little bit of fluff just to see exactly where it's gonna shrink back up to I like that and then just making sure that it's like not too much tension because if you're straightening it out completely right then you might cut off more than you intended might bite off more than you can chew kind of thing yep so instead of shrinkage is real pulling it right instead of pulling it nice and hard and cutting it just slightly kind of bring it out and cut into it exactly what you been doing all right so far so good one of my favorite things about curly hair is the fact that I don't experience it as much so it's it's new to me it's exciting for me like I don't really get I've never gotten nervous about cutting hair for some reason I don't know what it is I've jacked up some hair so I'm not saying that like I have reason to be nervous but at the same time honest we've all done it right we've all jacked it up but what I like about a curly hair is that it's what you see is what you get really as you're cutting through it so being able to create a shape on it and actually see it form before your eyes it's kind of a false shape when you cut a bob right when I cut a bob it's like okay cool now I have to blow it dry to expand it if that makes sense no totally I love the fact that with curly hair you literally can make just about any geometric shape yeah that you want so I would say that it's easier for people to see brown square and triangle when it comes to you know like Afro texture or however you want to put it yeah sectioning off the top here I'm just peeling it away with my fingers I'm not trying to be too precise correct me if I'm wrong Danielle but not trying to be too precise with my section just in the general area of where that section is gonna live nope I agree with that cool some of you OGs of the show will notice that there's some new tunes today had to change it up I was getting a little bored with the other music all right so look at the shape here so what we're starting to I still want to cut into this and this is obviously the new section here that's coming over but I want to shape that up but I still want to start collapsing a little bit and then the volume I want to start about halfway into this section so that's what I'm gonna be working on now and what's crazy Danielle is like I would have went tease cutting originally like before doing a little bit of research and stuff I would have been tease cutting this but I love the fact of a blunt cut because it kind of it just gives it more of a precise look and less shattered edges exactly I mean the hair is gonna be under a lot of stress anyway depending on like somebody's moisture level there might be a lot of split ends breakage ponytails and things like that can cause it yeah so I don't mind a blunt edge some people that want a little bit more of like a finer point or a little serrated edge if you were to actually twist that section a little bit and then slide cut down okay then you can create a little bit more of a tapered end rather than a blunt edge okay I like that so if I grabbed like some of this and I worked into it a little bit more though you're saying exactly okay and you know just the same way that we would do a twist cut yeah so like you would twist the hair like that and then cut into it though you're saying exactly okay like it so it's nice because you can attack it from a couple of different angles and just for me I always like to keep everybody in the mirror so that way I can see the shape as it's starting to come about yeah some people call it topiary cutting and they don't like it or reso cut or whatever you want to call it but seeing as how each individual curl can be different like for me the back of my head is a lot tighter so if I were to take you know even a half of the amount of tension that I would in the front then my curls gonna spring up a little bit more it's gonna be closer to my head whereas the front it's gonna be a lot longer so you got a kind of adjusts with each section I actually did notice that about this this doll head even that the texture of the bottom is completely different than the texture on the top the texture on the top is more like coarse feeling yeah this had a much smoother curl on the bottom that could have been my styling of it but it definitely felt more textured on the top what could be that you know she's highlighted so within an inch of her life because I think I might have highlighted that like five times yeah I definitely highlighted that's but you know traditionally everything that's underneath is gonna be protected from like all the free radicals UV light most of your styling damage so that's underneath is just a lot healthier right all right so you can kind of see see if we're where there's definitely a different shape going on here so this is not cut yet and this is where we're starting to shape everything that's really the goal is to just get a nice clean shape on it and create and have fun with it that's what I wanted to do with it and that's yesterday when I saw this mannequin I was like you know what that would be really fun to cut and then I got into it and started taking out all the extensions and everything that Daniel had in there and then I was like all right and then I started to blow it dry and started researching all the different styling techniques to get that really nice curl and then started texting Daniel because it just became you know it's just not this is not the clientele that I get in the salon does not come in with this hair type so like I said before it's very fascinating to me but I like having Daniel on here because obviously she's an expert in this hair texture she has clientele with this hair texture so you know you get the best of both worlds you get me doing my thing and Daniel helping me out what I mean I'm honored that you say that I am a curly hair expert but I would say that I'm more of a curly hair enthusiast because yeah head is so different right and I'm still learning basically I mean expert comparatively okay but yeah but I do agree and on and you work at our salon as well so it's a little bit you know you don't have this texture is not walking in the door every day so well that's the great thing is that you've talked about it so many times where depending on what you've got on your own head that's the kind of clientele that you can attract so I have had quite a few people that might see me out and about and it's like oh hey where do you word do you deal with you know type C type a blah blah blah that is something I want to talk about Danielle is those different hair types but we're gonna save that for when I go to shampoo oh but uh but yes you're totally correct like understanding all of that so not a lot of tension just kind of pulling it down cutting through it and working the shape I gotta be honest with this music in my ears and cutting these curls this is like literally it's like an ASMR kind thing right oh my gosh I don't even know what that is but yes oh my god you've never heard of that no okay what about the beer commercial with Zoe Kravitz where she's like tapping the bottle and she's okay now you didn't see that one never mind I didn't but basically it's an auditory thing oh okay I do like that wait line you like that wait line I think this is actually what I've been thinking about cutting on my own hair and every time that I do my hair and I go to cut it I'm like mmm do I want to don't want to lose that length it seems pretty popular online that's kind of where I was when I was researching this shape with the big fringe to yes was pretty cool so getting it so this is where I like to look in the mirror so you guys are seeing the second camera view here obviously this is built up I haven't cut into this yet this is where we have cut you just got to be aware and this is hair cutting in general of where that wait line is sitting and then I like to bring up the hair right around the edge there and then the other great thing is you can still do undercuts and things like that so that you can push some of the the curl pattern okay so just like what you would do with fine hair and graduating so that you can build up a wait line for the finer hair to sit on top of you can do the same thing with finer curls okay where you can do it a little shorter on the bottoms so that way it has something a base to kind of sit on top of I like that this is what I'm really digging the shape here haven't seems fun so not a lot of tension guys I think that was Danielle call me out a little bit but I most certainly did not know it's a good it's good that's I'm saying it makes some adjustments the I wasn't pulling with a ton of tension I so you were right on that but I was pulling with more than I am now and I like the result that I'm getting and I also feel like I'm getting a better shape by doing that as opposed to when I was pulling with extra tension I felt like it was springing back a little bit yeah because like right now the curl is a little bit looser so as soon as you go to wash it it's gonna shrink up that much more that's a good tip so you know usual cutting tip of less is more and especially with curly hair because what can measure out to be like six inches of hair can shrink up to about three or four inches all right Brian Harris says she's great hey Brian it's nice Brian all right so now I'm gonna take down another section here just go about two inches up this is where I was saying the texture like basically from parietal ridge up was totally different and like you said could be the bleach could be the maybe she didn't come that way but makes it feel more real to me I think all right well guess you're gonna be cutting my hair now Matt because yep I like that shape that's the one that I've been looking at for like three months that's a good the best compliment I can get today Danielle but the other reason that it's good that you're just separating rather than going in with the comb and trying to evenly section is because the curls they all kind of you know they want to hug their neighbor so if you try to go in there with a regular you know sectioning comb then you're gonna actually disrupt the curl yeah and you might actually cause a little bit more more tangling that's actually that's such a good tip because in my thought process on this whole thing that's why I'm not being too particular with the actual section that I take either like making sure like with when I'm cutting straight fine hair I'm taking very perfect sections for me that this in this I'm I'm going in I don't care that this there's no like visible parting in this I'm just keep trying to keep it as balanced as possible on the head all right so now I've got underneath here is my shape and here is my new curls so what I'm gonna do is not pull it too much because I don't want to pull out the curl or disrupt the curl too much but I do want to separate it and kind of put it where it's gonna be or where I want it to be I guess so I'll work through it that way before I start cutting that's not a song this is what so Christina and Hayden make fun of me a lot a lot and one of the things like I think it was on my birthday they show me this video of this girl and this is what she says she's like eating potato chips and they're like this is dad like this is my dad so yeah well for a second there because Christina is so good with like I don't know kind of sounding like some of the sound bites I wasn't sure if it was her yeah it could have been yeah that little girl so areas it's a funny video but it's not me okay it's not me what you don't want to be famous no I I I would never eat potato chips on camera that's that's the part me okay now I'm with you there yeah another reason that it's not really necessary to you know like take those perfect precise little sections with the curly hair is that it's already got its own built-in volume yeah so it's not like you're trying to over direct to create it that makes sense all right this is so we have a question Mary Ann here let's see my question how does this cut work for someone who made it fully style straighten their hair occasionally so Daniel do you want to answer that I have my thoughts but you answer it now if I have a different thought I'll tell you okay well whatever I used to straighten my hair when I first started going natural that's where obviously you're gonna have some sections that are gonna be maybe a tiny bit longer there might be a little bit of asymmetry but that's usually where I would go in and texturize the ends a little bit so that way they're not too thick if that makes sense okay that way when it straightened it doesn't have like that really thick weight line right at the bottom okay it's a little bit flatter bevels out a little bit more and with what you're doing right now you're pretty much rounding out the top of the head shape so when it falls it's actually gonna be almost the same length as what's underneath because you use a lot more tension on the underside of the hair and you did the top plus you know as we said before the shrinkage is real yes so now I'm just trying to get these ends because the ends are pretty roughed on the top plus I want to build a little bit of extra shift in volume and I don't need to pull the curl up and cut it like that I want to give this a little and this is just my thought process I want to give it a little more realistic kind of just like I would cut fine fine straight hair thick straight hair just give it a little elevation but really focusing on these ends because the ends are pretty rough you got to make this look fresh I mean she's already looking brand new you like it all right get in there can't wait to wash it now sometimes people worry about whether you get like a little bit of flat top but usually after you're diffusing it once it's completely dry that's where you want to go in with say like a pick or even maybe a chopstick just to go in and give it a little lift from underneath okay so sometimes it's a little misleading with the videos that you see because you see people like fluffing and all of that while they're diffusing but you know the more you touch it the more that it's frizzy right so if frizz is okay for you then go for it but if not and you're looking for definition but still looking for for height and volume wait until it's completely dry okay let's see and make sure guys if you have a question put Q and then your question so I can see it because I do see some questions coming through but sometimes it's harder to see them if you don't do that here we got a couple um Rose and he's asking if a client that wears a hair curly and straight would you cut curly or when it's straight I usually cut curly and then I refine it later on straight is yes okay so say that they usually wear their hair curly I usually ask people to come in with it parted however they normally do with as close to their their first wash day kind of curl so that way I can shape it while it's curly then I'll wash it go back in refine the cut a little bit more to make sense out of it for when it's it's straightened out okay like that yeah definitely a key thing is to have them come in with their hair in whatever natural state they're gonna wear it because then you can go through you can do this cut and then if they're not gonna wear it straight then you could just then shampoo it style it but if you they're gonna wear it straight I would do some refining for sure and I'm definitely trying to keep as much volume as I can on top so I love it and then I want to work that fringe and another option is that sometimes people will actually wait until after the hair has been dried to cut the fringe so that way that's cool you could do either or it's just a comfort level thing yeah what I'll probably do is just take the initial length of the fringe and then cut it a little more when we finish it that's what I do yeah great minds think alike actually now I'm thinking about it this looks like my client Tyler's hair yeah yeah the girl that I chopped off all of her relaxed air and we just started from a little pixie okay I know how you're talking about this is what her hair looks like now yeah I mean not the color but right the shape from these ends and then sometimes people are afraid to use the fitting shears and some people even think that you can't use a razor on curly hair yeah you really can yeah I talk about a lot like as long as you have a fresh blade it's just as strong as doing any you know you're not gonna get as blunt of an edge though but at the same time it's a super sharp blade razor exactly and then some people if you've got like somebody with a really dense texture already and they do want to thin it out and you know reshape it so where it's a little bit finer almost like you have those little cloud pieces coming off so it's not so perfectly geometric that's why I love the razor like it for me I don't think that you could go wrong with it yeah once I go through and I do all the p individual curl cuts on the head I like to just kind of then go through and dust all the edges a little bit maybe just because it visually helps me a little bit like with the actual shape not having too much stuff shooting out everywhere and then there's always like those little fine stragglers yeah to clean up so this was kind of the one thing so what I really want and what I'm loving is I like I do like this shape but I feel like it's a little big here so I want to make it a little sleeker in this area just for my personal taste and imagination now personally I love that just I want I want hair big enough that I'm gonna piss off the person in the movie theater behind me I love it yeah I agree I've got such fine hair it's going away very slowly or quickly whatever way you want to say it so I'll never have that all right so now just to go into the fringe a little bit this is all gonna be kind of part of that fringe but I don't want turn the music on so you can't hear my old knees cracking don't feel bad I got the rice crispy sneeze too nice I just pulling those individual curls out like tension working the shape well a fun thing is you can play with the tension on the top so if you did have a couple of pieces that you were to pull taught and cut then they'll spring down a little bit shorter and again just make for like a little piece here of an appearance through the top layer okay all right so in here individual definitely aiming for longer than it is or it's gonna be and then sometimes even cutting a couple of shorter pieces right around the fringe like is an option well just so that when there's a couple of little shorter pieces not the entire fringe okay but just a couple of shorter pieces help to just give it a little bit more fluff if that makes sense yeah so where would you take those shorter pieces in the interior part here or around the edge depending on how much hair somebody has I can do both actually like I have one lady that she's a little bit finer right through the front with her curl so I usually just do a little bit of razoring underneath so the carving comb with the 50% side okay I'll do that right around the the perimeter and then on the interior I'll do kind of almost like a concave layer so you could literally just take like a section and do 50% here yep just through the ends so like this and you take the carving comb with the 50% carving side I'm just gonna hold it I'm not gonna comb it all out or anything and then just 50% through the ends oh that's not a new blade that's good though I like it because it did take off just like every other little piece and just softens it you're right it's not as thick looking all right so you're like we're almost there I like this profile like that profile all right Danielle so what we're gonna do is I want you to give everybody kind of breakdown okay breakdown of like I'm gonna put up three mannequins right and then you can start talking about different hair hair like curl types okay okay well not everybody's into the curl typing yeah can you see I just like it because like it okay so here's this lovely lady okay pretty sure you've done almost all these except for the last one yeah I have so this one yep that's all Danielle and then this one's me you haven't seen this one oh that one's there okay yeah this one's shag-alicious there we go all right so we shag is very in few different curl types so Danielle's gonna give you guys a breakdown of that what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna run and shampoo our lovely model here so that we can start diffusing and going through the styling process of the hair and yeah so that's where we're at so Danielle I'm gonna let you just kind of give a breakdown while I do that and I'll be back all right so the purple mannequin that for me on my screen is on the right that one it's obviously a looser pattern it's more of like what you would call a type B because that one is a little bit more of a spiral type of curl now when it comes to the typing there's a B and C so a being your more like more wavier and then your B being more of your starting to get spirally and then your C would be a really tight spiral curl so pretty much like my hair and that's the hair that's on the left is your type C so we're going from left center I'm sorry the right to the center to left is your ABC and every curl pattern is pretty much different like I have a little bit of like a B pattern in the back of my head but then the front of my head has a little bit more like that combination of B and C but I'm also like in my in my tension it's a little bit different if that makes sense because like right here I'm a little bit lighter so that one it drops a little bit more whereas the back is a little bit darker so it shrinks up so for me when it comes to dealing with curly hair I attack it like a Lego it's all in different sections and for the people that don't like to do typing it's good to do the hair typing because then you can pretty much figure out what every one of them needs so like for C my type of curly hair you're gonna need a lot more moisture some people think that means that you have to go in with a lot of oil but what the oil is going to do is put a coating on the hair so essentially you're just actually keeping the oil on the top of the hair and the water is not penetrating through so that's where you get a lot of drying so with that I usually like curl creams and curl gels because they help to actually put a lot more moisture and define the curl a lot better with type C when it comes to type A that usually want a little bit more of like you're leaving conditioners and things like that because they're very soft they won't weigh the hair down and then when it comes to re-expanding the curl it's a lot easier to manage now with B seen as how that one can be a little bit different that's where you have that combination hair of dealing with like your gel plus your cream sometimes you could even do a mousse so every hair is different I wish that I could give one exact thing to do but it's literally working with the hair and seeing what it likes so I found that for my type C hair which I'm 4C and combination 3C in the front I use a lot more of like a curl butter and all of these different products have different names but I usually go by the lock method which is a leaving conditioner then you have an oil although as I said before you might not want to do the oil beforehand so I actually do my leaving conditioner my curl cream and then the oil but basically those are the three things that you're looking to to do with curly hair is moisturize define and then lock in moisture so one thing that I can definitely say with a lot of different curls is that the more that you touch it the more that it's going to frizz out so you really want to give it that time after you put the product in especially if you're doing a wash and go that you're going to rake through the hair get it really defined and then once you've got it where you want it you usually sit somebody under a dryer for about like 10 20 maybe 30 minutes depending on how thick their hair is before you go in with your diffuser because if you go straight in with the diffuser then you're going to end up with a lot of frizz which for me it took a little while to kind of learn that with my own hair but especially with the lockdown I've had a lot of time to play around do different things and I have found that that's the best one that works for me and also for a lot of my different clients so it may be a little bit slimy it may be a little bit drippy but that's pretty much the nature of the beast so I always recommend that you have some type of a hooded dryer so that way it helps the process because you want the hair to have a little bit of a cast on it after especially if you're using a gel so you want it to be just a little bit crisp but seeing as how you've had the leaving conditioners and you've had the curl butters and things like that it does leave the hair very soft so that once it's dry you can fluff it out without losing the entire curl pattern oh hey Matt what's up i'm back all right so no job that was quick yeah well it's probably too quick i probably should have uh went a little slower but you know we're live so um what'd you end up using so i ended up using all avenor mint Paul Mitchell everything um not for any reason i just feel like it's more moisturizing uh loaded it with conditioner uh it definitely and this could be because of highlights and all that but the texture on this top is absolutely 100 different than this texture on the bottom you can see it so um so what i'm gonna do is i'm gonna put in um like you said it's hard for us at this moment to let this air dry for a little bit um just because we're obviously live on the internet but um i'm gonna load it with product correct well when you're putting your product in what you usually want to do is have a spray bottle with you because you want to keep it on more on the wet side okay so dripping is actually a good thing okay and a lot of times we're used to like really squeezing out and ringing out the hair but especially with this curl pattern it needs a lot of moisture okay and that way you're not using or wasting a lot of products what about like the um like how do you keep from getting the tangle at the root like what's the goal there like if it seems to tangle up easily usually it's when i'm in the you know at the bowl yeah with their hair that i'll detangle there okay and everybody's different because some people they never ever detangle whatsoever some people will only finger comb to get out the majority of like the loose hair and some of the tangles personally i am loving this guy right here because this one's perfect because literally it just it's made to actually stretch with the hair so it doesn't disrupt the curl and just like you would with a regular detangling comb you can go in vertically yeah just to detangle and then horizontally to get through everything but i just like that it's not going to snap the hair because it's got like these little flexible separated pieces so this has been like one of my coven purchases i like it where did you purchase it at just off of amazon okay so now as i add in product and so that's kind of a that's a that's a great tip in the fact that so some people don't even worry as much about like on typical like fine hair that i would be working with i would um most likely make sure no tangles are in there whatsoever with this hair texture i'm not as worried about that is that what you're saying um it's it's a preference thing because like i said there are some people that they don't mind having that me personally i don't want my hair dread it's my curl pattern does that really easy so i do that when i'm doing my conditioning treatment or when i'm doing like um just my once a week wash day basically so but if i'm doing just a co-wash then i'm just finger combing through it okay very cool and then um so as i put on the product and my set i'm sectioning it just like i would uh when i cut it right and then i start putting the product in am i working that product through with the brush or no you don't want to do no that you want to work through with your hand just with my hands um because if you go through with the wrong comb or the wrong brush then it's actually just going to explode that curl okay so what i usually do is i'll just take like some little horizontal sections yeah and then just rake through that okay so i usually start off with a leaving conditioner okay that's not what i did work that really well that's the opposite of what i put in here but that's okay okay so it's gonna go in there anyway right so this is a very conditioning curl we're finding foam that i'm using just in case you guys are wondering now don't take uh i would like to hear Danielle's recommendations for you guys rather than what i'm putting in the hair um some of your favorite things so what conditioner do you like the most right um i flip-flop back and forth between the the palmetchal lavender mint leaving okay and the conditioner okay with palmetchal i really like the conditioner like some people are a little bit iffy because it you know like when you rub it together it's a little bit white when it goes into the hair it drops just a little bit yeah but once it starts to dry and especially once you start to diffuse it pretty much disappears it just absorbs right into the hair is this the conditioner or the other one the conditioner okay and i just find it has a an easier slip you know you don't have to use as much yeah soak in the product that's pretty much how it is so usually when you are dealing with your curly hair clients especially for somebody that has like the kinkier coily kind of hair okay you're gonna want to cape them up really well so putting a towel around giving them a towel so that they can nicely blot everything okay it's it's definitely normal like but like i said it's a lot easier to work with the hair if it's soaking wet okay and if you had um like let's say this spot right here super tangled right here at the root you would have done that at the sink correct you're saying yes okay and you can still do that right now yeah it's just you're really gonna have to get in there spray a lot of water yeah and um then you're gonna go through and just rake through with your hands okay cool like all these tips daniel keep dishing them like it all right well hopefully i'm not jumping all over the place because i mean with curly hair there is just so many different things not to mention that i just like to over inform that's my thing yeah i love it that's why i have you on here because um i like to over inform as well but um obviously that's not being my expertise i needed an over informer by my side so and the great thing is once you get back in the slot obviously well we're gonna you'll be jumping in on these classes as well helping me out doing all kinds of different stuff because you're super talented at all all hair types so we'll be doing all kinds of things so with that i would wet the top down a little bit more and for those sections you can go in with your paddle brush just to you know lightly comb through some of that to get out the worst parts of the the knotting where i'm gonna it's gonna be very exposed right here my shampoo job i bet you because seeing as how you've only put in the moves you know you're still going to be able to clump the curls with you know the condition the curl cream and the defining gel okay cool which i gotta say they're defining gel is like whoa well that's good i did i used the uh for my initial style i used the um the cream the curl cream is it the taming cream you're talking about yeah okay yeah that's how i used i like it a lot it's got a great lavender scent too but you're right it's not overburied no and it's nice because it's not like you have to use a whole lot of it and the way that you use it it it'll give you different types of holds it'll even change the curl pattern like kind of like the gels gonna elongate it a little bit more yeah so like that's pretty much what i do with my hair today was just to go through i did a 50 50 kind of mix so that way i still had some movement i could still touch it but i still had definition and volume to it okay like that and while you were gone i was saying how when you have that that gel that you're gonna add to it just to get that extra definition that it's okay to have it just a little bit crunchy and have a cast because as you start playing around with it and touching it it'll expand and it'll still keep the actual curl pattern okay very cool so Kristen's asking if you keep it wet during the product application do you towel blot after i don't know if we touched on that everyone is different with that when it comes to the coily textures i wouldn't do the microfiber towels when it comes to your wavy or your wavy or curly shapes that one i'll do the microfiber towel okay and there really is a difference between the microfiber and a regular cotton towel because the cotton towel will actually just pull out way too much moisture but because it's a natural fiber it's just gonna latch on to that that curl pattern shape and create frizz everyone's freaking out about your brush they want to wear to buy it again amazon what's it called do you know what it was called it didn't have a name i just saw this thing and it was advertised for natural hair and it was just like the best thing and seeing is how it's you know like you can see that it's pretty wide pretty long you can get huge sections all in one go so what would normally take me like a good 15 20 minutes to detangle my hair now takes me about like 10 that's awesome so that compared to a wet brush you're like all in on that oh yeah because the wet brush i can't tell you the amount of brushes that i'm combing through and then it's like oh the paddle is it's stuck in my hair i've completely broken the thing off but you have no idea how many 427 brushes i have destroyed all right well that's good to know all right so i got the um this is the defining gel so we talked about that a little bit a lot of people in the chat were saying this is one of their favorites yes so am i putting this on or do i put the conditioner on do you think maybe so i would say put the conditioner yeah because that you can at least spray oh you wasted it you could use like oh mad i'm a very wasteful person oh blasphemous blasphemous all right so this is the taming cream so we'll put this in uh yeah sound good yep now normally i like to work in sections so that way i can saturate them a little bit better so like i would literally take just like a little subsection don't judge my roots i haven't bothered with them i might go back to gray hey that might make everybody else feel better so don't be afraid to show them roots all right and then if you feel like the hair is drying out like you can almost feel like a little bit of slimyness as you're going through and raking so if it feels like it's drying out and it's almost feeling like a little caught me okay there's no other way to say it then you can spray it down a little bit more and then rake through again okay and perfect rake method very good just go in there all raptor claw raptor claw i like all right all right it's good we got some good comments people are saying finally curly hair cutting well like i said before there's so many different ways so it's not that you were doing anything wrong it's just yeah i think that was a more structured haircut yeah and it's like understanding it you know like when you're not exposed to something um like i wasn't exposed to this type of curly hair um at all like my whole career you know so being able to just work with it i think having this mannequin is awesome because um it's obviously a daunting thing for people have never um you know like they've never like if you have a client obviously it's a lot more it's a lot scarier i would be probably nervous because i just don't want to mess anybody's hair up you know what i mean but the mannequin it allows you to have discoveries like yesterday messing around with it i've obviously used this mannequin before um and i listened to the comments of the past videos that i've made and you know it's just a different um it's a it's a different experience but it's not that different and then when you watch on youtube it's cool because you can really even if you watch somebody do their own hair you learn a lot about just different tips of the adjustments that you make as a hairdresser so like we were saying instead of really clean partings it's a little more natural partings just kind of getting the hair separated working the product through the steps in the products are a little bit different but it's not that different you know so um i would definitely challenge everybody not that you need to um just having awareness of of like all hair types i think is important for all of us so it's cool to uh to just go in here and and discover and learn you know this isn't so much about me teaching this is danielle teaching today um obviously i have my thoughts and i i can cut hair um but you know just going through here making these discoveries with everybody i think hopefully will push people to you know not be so afraid of texture well you just have to remember that it's still hair it's still protein it's still you know keratin and amino acids and lipids and all of those things so by knowing those different type of curl patterns you can go in and kind of do your homework to find out which ones need a little bit more protein because like if i put protein in this my hair is gonna snap right off okay it doesn't need that my hair needs moisture now somebody that might need a little bit more of a protein treatment will be somebody that has you know more of that kind of be that more spiral little house on the prairie type of curl okay um and even wavy hair types but you have to be careful because say that you use something like cholesterol on that hair that's so heavy of a protein that it's just gonna weigh down that curl and stretch it out this is literally people about your brush give me it jealous and then i'm not gonna lie like the dyson diffuser is now my favorite of all time and i don't get paid for it yeah but the reason that i really like it let me see if it shows up here yep i am so bad with the technical stuff so with the dyson you can see that they actually have just the one hole right on the edge for the airflow and then it has that entire circular pattern so all the airflow is right to the center whereas most other diffusers the hole is all around that little little finger and so it's blowing the hair every which way whereas this one's more concentrated to the center of the the diffuser itself so it keeps the curl pattern nice and especially when i'm going in oh another thing this is a discovery that i made a little while ago okay i'm a little while ago but anyway um instead of going in and just like pushing the diffuser right into the hair just letting it sit on the outside so that way the hair still has its you know like its length retention and its curl pattern and you're not going to create any type of frizz by going in and disrupting anything so just on the outside letting that dry and then once that's all set then going in lifting it up and getting it a little bit more drying on the interior very cool Mary Ann's asking can you cocktail the products together i know this answer but um some products i've noticed that if you do that the cream will beat up you know like um it separates it doesn't mix very well so that's where it is better to layer one at a time especially if you're dealing with say like a really really heavy gel very cool and then why wouldn't you use a wide-tooth comb that might be might be based on me using a paddle brush at that moment um if i could answer all into that a little bit just because this is so tight like some of these uh the build up um in the tangle of the hair i wanted a softer tooth on the brush and something that gives a little bit uh if i was going through the ends and everything i would use a wide-tooth comb 100 percent but because i'm working just trying to work these little tight hairs out and i don't want to stretch everything and the comb would just get stuck i use the brush just to softly and the same tool that Danielle showed you from amazon you could use that kind of thing as well um this is the ergo paddle brush that i'm using um i actually wish i had the mini paddle brush with me um but i'm just using the the last like four teeth on the brush here just to pull those little hairs out um and just trying to do it as gentle as possible because obviously if this was a person i don't want to hurt them in second i don't want to damage the hair uh just working that out at the base one thing i want you guys to definitely notice and that i'm noticing as well is that the curl is looking really good as i'm like layering the uh products in and keeping the hair saturated with uh water keeping it moist working it through it definitely is looking good you probably just skewed out so many people with that word i know i probably uh what else are you gonna say right what else are you gonna say all right let's see jenny uh please do a quick product recap moves to finding gel curl cream all right cool so uh real quick we've got this guy here this is the tea tree lavender mint curl refresh foam that's what i put on first you don't need to do that you should probably put this on first uh the lavender taming cream there we go lavender mint taming cream uh that and then i put on the lavender mint defining gel right there and now i'm falling asleep so we're gonna start diffusing i've got the dyson tool just like danielle's talking about uh we're gonna go well loud we're gonna go low air low low heat is that true or high heat um i do medium heat and low air flow cool so we just crank it up uh the two settings here two on the heat one on the airflow and then um i'm gonna tilt her head slightly back would you be getting the front of the back i'm gonna go in the back but i usually start with the bottom okay let's make sure we're on the same page danielle i mean you can make it up as you go that's usually what happens in my life same yep so keys to diffusing i'm gonna turn my mic down a little bit what when you talk about i know you did a little bit but why don't you just uh go over it a little bit so i don't have to blow it dry in their ears so this was the part where i was saying that you can actually just let it dry a little bit on its own so it's not like you want to go in when it's totally dripping wet with the diffuser i would normally put somebody underneath a dryer for about like 15 20 minutes or i would let them air dry for a little bit because usually when i'm working on my curly people they usually come in pairs so i'll just kind of bounce back and forth and while one is drying that i'm either cutting or applying some product or something on the other person so um with that like i said you want to diffuse it to where you're kind of just on the outside of the hair when it's first wet so that way you can just not disturb the curl too much and you're getting a little bit more drying going on in the ends because we all know gravity takes hold and the ends are going to get the majority of the moisture and then later on you can start working your way into the middle but instead of just like getting right in there and this is for longer lengths now for a shorter length like what matt's dealing with right now that i do go right up because i do want that hair to kind of be a little bit closer to the head shape a little bit more um and then also you can adjust so say that you find that it's getting a little bit of frizz you can adjust your temperature setting down to say like your lower speed or i'm sorry your lower temperature setting so that way it's not just like completely frying the hair out and then my other favorite thing is some people think that the cool button is not something that you would use on curly hair but you can because you really do want to set in that moisture you want to lock in that curl pattern and also as you can see any of those little white bits that you saw of the product it's now getting absorbed into the hair so once you do that cool button once the the hair is dry you've now locked in all of those really great properties that are in the the product itself so with the lavender mate collection you have tea tree you have the lavender you also have um what is the other product that's in there jojoba and you have a bunch of different natural products that help to hydrate and also help with scalp help because a big thing with curly hair is making sure that the scalp is good because it's not like you're going to be washing it that often and there's going to be a certain amount of product built up so i might be going off on another tangent keep it up daniel keep it up well for me um i actually use a black soap shampoo about twice a month so that helps to get rid of a lot of the build up that's on my scalp i also use two different types of oils for my hair so i have one that's specifically just for my scalp to help suit it but i do like the lavender mint palm Mitchell oil that they have because that one it's very light and it doesn't absorb into the skin and clog the pores like you would find with a lot of other products so basically you don't want anything that has petroleum because then that's going to clog the pores it's going to stop growth it's also going to keep the hair um keep the the natural oils from making their way down the hair shaft so god there's so much i don't even know where i can start right now this is that's why i'm saying that i'm more of a curly hair enthusiast because the more that you look into it the more the more you learn the more things yeah the more that you learn and nothing's wrong um i'm trying to think of her name there is a curly hair guru that um she's been around for a while and i'd actually ordered her book but you know being that we're in a pandemic everything's taking forever so i ordered it a month ago i still haven't gotten it yeah that's a lot yeah yeah but oh god why why can't i remember her name um anyway she's amazing with what she does with the hair and she works with every single curl type and she's one of those people that she actually has recipes for um all natural conditioning treatment so if you're somebody that doesn't want to use a manufacturer product she actually gives a couple of different recipes that you can make up yourself that's but personally i don't have time for that i'm not doing that yeah i tried it a while ago i like doing a um which call it an aloe vera mask that was great and everything but after a while it gets to be a little bit tedious so my biggest recommendation would be to make sure that there's not too much alcohol in your products make sure there's no phthalates or it's basically salt that's going to dry out the hair no parabens and silicones has always been kind of like a hot topic when it comes to curls because i don't mind it on my wavier or curly hair but on my extra curly or coiled hair like mine i don't really like how the silicone just sits on the top of the hair and for me it's like my hair never drives if i'm using a silicone okay so pretty much everything that i use has got to be just silicone free so i do love the marula for that too oh nice that's a good tip yeah the marula hair mask that was like a savior for me when i was transitioning because if i used products that were strictly for natural hair my relaxed hair was just like who doesn't run it just did not like it so marula was really great as a transition product and i can still use it now so it's not like it's only for transition right but it was like really nice and light and the fact that you can do a pre oil treatment oh that's another thing i could talk about all right um when it comes to really dry really coily hair um putting an oil treatment on first before you even shampoo just going through getting the oil worked through separating the hair and getting out you know like finger combing through and getting out any of the loose hair because you're still shedding even though you're not combing it so all of that hair gets stuck in there and if you don't get rid of it before you shampoo it'll just congeal into a giant dreadlock okay so um i usually like to do the oil treatment first and you can either do it for 10 minutes before you shampoo or you can do it for 20 minutes 30 minutes or even overnight depending on how dry the hair is now obviously when it comes to in the salon you're going to want to do something between 10 and 20 minutes which basically the hair has a 20 minute absorption rate and anything after that it's just sitting there so it's not going to hurt the hair perfect all right so um pretty much dry hitting it with cool air okay so now we're going to move into uh stretching it out a little bit i would assume yes so just oh another thing that you can do when you're drying is that if you feel like it's shrinking up too much you can just grab it lightly and then just run the dryer over that section just to stretch it out without messing up the curl pattern okay i like that that's a good one so i would grab the the hair a little bit more like this and run the dryer over it a little bit you're saying yep okay so um as i pull out the curl i would go to a cream or some kind of oil what would you do is that what you do not the exact same thing okay still on the same page daniel still on the same page that was a lot i think that's one of the reasons that i love working with you guys is that seeing as how all of us have that palmichael background yeah we pretty much are always on the same page with whatever hair texture or anything that we're doing yeah for sure i would definitely say that that's uh you know we definitely palmichael had great training in the fact of teaching people just not only how to do straight fine hair but textured hair as well i mean for them for the most part always probably could have been more training but well i know before i left that's when they were starting to work on like the curl line they hadn't come out with left your mates obviously that's a really new now but yeah they were one of the few companies that were just like well why aren't we tapping into this market there are a lot of people going natural yeah for sure and to be honest in this day and age where you have like so many you know mixed babies and stuff like that everybody should know how to do it because you really never know who's going to come in and say hey my kid needs their hair done and they might have straight hair the kid might have hair like mine right yep so i'm taking each individual curl and i'm just pulling it apart just to separate it some of these separate a little easier than others to be honest i think my prep work my quick shampoo is shining through right now well like i said that would be a lot easier to take care of over at the sink yeah with you know a good amount of conditioner in there and well if you had my little trusty dusty brush yeah that's right i'll order one of those things yeah finally one that i'm not going to break all the bristles off of it all right the amount of times that i've walked around and it's like what what is this oh it's a bristle from my brush oops starting to starting to expand a little bit so i'm just grabbing little pieces here and then you can also go in with a pick okay just to really lift it up from the root matter of fact i think i'm just going to sit here and fluff my own hair now that it's finally there you go that is well yeah i think that this is like i think i hope everybody liked this class i feel like um for me uh the cool thing is i had a you know quite a few questions um that i feel like some of you guys out there might have had uh maybe not people that work with this texture daily but people are interested in it and uh daniel definitely gave some facts to anybody could really listen to that so hope you guys enjoyed it i enjoyed it i didn't go off into too many different tangents not one bit daniel more information we can get on on the interwebs the better this is true that's what i'm gonna do a secret cut back here i saw that on youtube oh so it's a real thing yeah somebody just cut the knot right out they're like there it comes hey you do what you gotta do yeah sometimes let's see talk about the pick what kind and how um just a regular hair pick so uh i wish i had that down here with me but usually where it's just flat has anywhere from like four to six little horizontal tongues going through it so that way you can get underneath and just lift straight up you don't want to comb through the entire length of the hair because obviously you're gonna comb out your curl but in order to just get a little bit of height through the top let me see too i think i might have a pic hold on okay you guys get a chance go follow daniel on instagram at the hands downs we'll find it uh no i did not have a pic but we're gonna act like this little foil comb is a pic so what you're gonna do is you're gonna go underneath the hair and then you're just gonna lift so you're not gonna comb all the way through you're just gonna lift up just those pieces at the root so that way you're getting that little bit of extra volume and the other thing that i do like to do once it's completely dry is go in with and matt already did it but to go in with a little bit of the curl cream so that way it can moisturize but also give you a little bit more added texture so that as you're fluffing it it's um it's still pretty uniform but um it's got more of those little flyaway pieces because that cream will help to clump some of those curls yeah we like those flyaway pieces right i heard that i'm like all right cool that's good because i was like oh these are flying away i mean everybody everybody wants to make things especially you because i know you love making everything geometric and very uniform yeah but this is basically free form all of this right here all right so asymmetry um just different lengths and stuff like that it can work it's just all about our preference yeah i like it my biggest thing is when i've cut curly hair in the past like you know what i think looks good and then what the internet thinks looks good two different things so i have a little bit of yeah but if you really look at it like a couple months back i went to afro punk in new york and i was as a hairdresser i was absolutely in love with every single type of hair that i saw okay because you had you know some that it was like a cloud it was just fluffy and bouncy and just had like these little ripple waves going through it some of them like me is coily and you know it's just like little springs all over the head so you had a little bit of everything then you have your you're basically picked out and you know um traditional afros and they can be heart shape they could be you know completely cylindrical they could be a little bit more wedge shape so it's curly hair to me is one of those things that you're really expressing yourself yeah you know you're living big in 3d when you have that curly hair and you embrace it that's so true very cool all right i'm gonna finish the fringe just because i wanted to cut into that just a little bit more and then this was exactly what i was talking about where you can go in once it's dry and then just start to refine a couple of curls it's not like you've got to go through and recut the entire thing yeah right yeah because i kind of already have the length that i want just being able to go in there and adjust the shape a little bit and like for me i kind of went on the natural journey with a couple of my salon guests and we've pretty much discovered things together and we shared tips and all of that um there is a group let me get their name right also that i started following them a while ago can you sorry you were saying no just can you uh say that book one more time too because uh charlene was asking uh what the name of the book was the one that you ordered uh lorraine massie finally popped into my head okay um she's a curly hair guru and she is absolutely amazing and if you would have ever seen this woman's curls it is like whoa just unbelievable it is hair goals and i really like her because she's just she talks about curly hair in terms of just hair it's not okay you have you know abc whatever it's just when you're touching it which every hairdresser we're all about touching the hair you know like i'm normally not a touchy feely type of person very kind of like whoa don't hug me don't come too close social distancing was a thing for me before it had to be a thing right yeah but when it comes to hair i'm i'm right there i'm just touching and it's like yeah you can touch my hair it's okay um sweet but like i said with lorraine massie she's amazing with how she breaks everything down and makes it to where you know that you can figure it out and work with your client and one thing that i've noticed is that with your curly hair clients once you get one perfect that's it they spread like wildfire they will tell everyone all right i can't wait to hear what she's gonna say to everybody and i mean ask brian like he when the curl line came out years ago with paul michel he fell so in love with it and he actually started growing his hair back out and he's got those beautiful kind of baloney curls yeah and you know built up a huge curly hair following true yeah so true all right so okay 11 all of you guys are saying appreciating it let's get the good vibes going here good vibes and look at you yeah styling curly hair i know hate to go because this is so good but i gotta get ready to leave and head to the salon for a practice run that's right christin getting that salon all right what are your instagram names so everybody posts your instagram names in the chat and danielle where can everybody follow you on the gram on instagram um at the hands downs okay and i'm i'm terrible so i don't have twitter or anything like that okay but the hands down everybody can follow you let me get back on here so um let's see so what do you guys think did you like the class let us know in the chat here uh if you have any other questions for danielle please post them um christin have a great day uh instagram names are really nice let's see um snowden thank you so much uh sarah saying my ends always frizz how can i stop it what do you think danielle um that's where i usually go in with a little bit more gel and curl former so um there are what they call curl butter okay it's a little bit thicker of a curl cream and it helps to encourage the curl formation and then the gel over top of that will actually lock in that shape okay and with that make sure that you're letting it drive for that couple of minutes so that way the ends don't frizz up because i have the same thing where if i don't let my ends drip dry for a little bit and i go in and diffuse or i touch it it's just instant frizz okay cool uh next one is let me see here how do i how do you reshape your hair the next day without washing it you know that one yes um for what oh why didn't i bring this thing down here i have one of those huge hair monitors okay so basically everything just goes up and back into almost like this tube okay and um i just take some of the the curl cream and i just fluff that through my hair and then i just start pulling and fluffing very cool i like it uh zelda is asking coolest name ever uh is yes you you loved it yesterday i know i know it's awesome plus hey that's retention that's retention too my retention rate is good thank you for coming back that's true uh is using water to keep hair damp oh what i lost it i talked too much uh is using water to keep hair damp drying to the hair or would you use leaving conditioner to keep the hair damp during cutting or styling that's a good question that is a good question so um that's where i like the conditioner because seeing is how with that products it's like what is it five times lighter in an air it's been a while since i've had to think about that i think that's what they say but it's a very very lightweight product and it's heat and water activated so um it's got awakuli in it which is hydrating for the hair all of that very very um good for shine as well so you can even put that in a spray model if you want if you don't want to you know dull your scissors or mess those up by having conditioner on the hair when you're cutting okay you can put a little bit into a spray bottle and that way it provides a little bit of extra slip cool awesome all right a couple more questions is there a difference between a wood plastic or metal pick in your opinion again it's just a matter of preference um back in the day when i used to visit my relatives in south america yes they had the wooden picks and um they got caught in my hair so didn't like those too much um my dad had the the original afro pick with the metal tongs i actually love that because that was really great for just like smoothly getting into the hair scratching the scalp just a little bit yep but not getting caught in my hair and then sometimes i've noticed that some of the cheaper plastic picks they just use a basic mold so the edges aren't completely smooth so it's just going out there and finding you know one that works for you like with this one i really like it and i'm trying to find if they have a pick because the plastic that they use on this is it's almost like the the hard plastic combs okay so it's it's flexible but it's smooth okay yeah that's interesting all right cool so i think that's how to follow danielle so i just put her instagram handle please all of you guys go follow danielle and if you have any questions go ahead and inbox me i'm a little terrible at looking at it but i will get back to you yeah for sure so um but yeah definitely please go follow danielle um give her a shout out tell her thank you um danielle i can't thank you enough i could not have done this class without you for sure so i can't wait to have you back in the salon in in this building and we can do more share more i know i know me too uh hopefully this week we'll hear what's going on one good thing is it's looked like a war zone outside because they haven't done anything to like the landscape here they hadn't mowed the grass it was like two feet tall today they just went through and cleaned it all up so i don't know what they know but they got to know something so hopefully you know hopefully that's a good sign hopefully we'll be back soon uh within the next couple weeks at least um but yeah and you guys out there watching there'll be a lot more of danielle to come and the rest of the team you know we'll be doing classes uh as soon as we get back in obviously i'm doing this every day so now it's easier i'll just pull danielle in here and uh you know we can do some stuff so um thank you again danielle uh very much i really appreciate it uh again go follow her uh on instagram we killed it today on this show this is probably one of the longest shows ever and i think it was full of really really great information no best information so uh again thank you danielle i'm gonna hang up here um let me see and i'll i'll talk to you soon i'll give you a call okay all right all right see you danielle all right guys so let me pop this here so what'd you guys think did you uh did you have a good time did you enjoy the class uh i really had i was happy to have danielle here um i realized yesterday when i had to reach out to her to ask her questions when i was trying to get everything ready and prepped um that i needed her here so um so thank you danielle again go follow her at the hands-downs on instagram um christina i'm glad to hear that very cool uh ashley thank you valerie thank you so much all right cool awesome rosanie glad to hear it all right guys so one thing i want you guys to do uh before as soon as we're done with this show i want you to go download the fsc now app um we're uh if you haven't done it already if you have done it already go add some stuff to your profile so we can see your beautiful images on there and also if you're really loving using the fsc now app can you do me one favor go to the app store whatever app uh store you got it from and leave a review so that we can get as many great reviews on there as possible just helps the rankings of the app uh as well here is what the app is all about um let me share it with you guys and then uh i'm gonna say my goodbyes so here is the app thank you so much enjoy your day and i'll see you guys tomorrow right here at 12 o'clock eastern standard time for the next class thank you so much