 Hello everyone, I'm here with Joy Marine Man and Patrick Cote. They are the authors of the upcoming book titled The Yoss Queen Chronicles, coverage of the first annual resistance forum and pre-orders are now available. They're here to talk about this amazing new book. Thank you both for coming on the program. Thank you so much for having me back and for having Kat. Yeah, yeah, I'm very excited about this book. I think that if you have a Twitter account and you are in lefty circles, there's about a 95% chance, based on my research, that you have argued with one of the people that they are satirizing in this book. So tell us about the book because we know about Pat's last book. I have it with me. It's called An Inconvenient Douche. Absolutely hilarious book. It was a parody of Peter Dow who has since had a change of heart. So we know that the book's coming out soon. Pre-orders start today as I mentioned. What can we expect with this book, Patrick? So we wanted this one to be a little more, I guess, fun and cathartic in a way than the last one. So this one is the concept is that there's a panel of pundits, media personalities, people we know. Joanne Reed is Joanne Reed. Nancy Pegosi is Nancy Pelosi, obviously, and they're just having a resistance forum somewhat and discussing politics. So that was a good setup to bring in all the issues we wanted to talk about. Now, Joy, tell us a little bit more about some of these characters because Patrick kind of touched on some of these names and I already like what I'm seeing. Like, who are we going to see in this book? I'm guessing it's going to be an all-star cast, but tell us a little bit about maybe your favorite character and some others that you think people will find hilarious. Well, I mean, we have some special appearances that we're not going to give away, but my favorite, and it seems like my husband's favorite character is Alyssa Shilano. He is very accurately a total mess. So she's extremely entertaining. We have Nira Tantrum. We have James Scarville, Tom P. Rez, Jennifer Puben, really all your favorites, but then we also have Nina Burner because we need someone representing us who is strong and amazing and can stand up to all the shit lives. Absolutely. Now, I have to ask, I don't know if you guys are able to reveal all of this yet, but Pat, you're managing the Nate's liver account. Do we hear from Nate's liver at all? Nate is not in this one, but we did, hey, I don't want to give too much away, but Peter Douche does make an appearance. Okay, okay, that's interesting because I was wondering how you handled that character because, you know, the parody came out and it was very representative at that time, but he's on our side now. And I think that all of us, even though we were skeptical at first, have kind of embraced Peter Douche, so I'm curious about that. So does his character evolve in this book? Absolutely, yeah. And like you said, he did a full 180 in the last few years, and you were one of the first people to call that. And I remember we actually talked about that at one point, and you and I agree on almost everything politically. You're one of the few people, but I had a hard time seeing his conversion as authentic, and I'll give him credit. He's stuck to it. So anyway, back to 2016 and Peter Douche, I just didn't feel like it was right to keep it up, keep the parody going for a guy who's now at least saying the right things for our side. So that's why I abandoned it. So he does have a come to Jesus moment, sort of appear in this book as a good guy. That's awesome. That's awesome. And Peter follows Nate's liver and Bay. So I think he's kind of like opening up to the sense of humor of everything. You know, and one thing about Peter Douche that I love is that he made a comment that made me laugh out loud. He said something about like 2016, Peter Douche would have blocked 2020 Peter Douche. So it's nice to kind of look back and grow. And I love that, you know, his evolution is reflected because the first book was absolutely hilarious. So just in terms of like satire, I kind of have a sense of like what I'm getting. But I have yet to read the book. So, you know, the general setup is that they're all at this forum, they're talking. So overall, are there any more details that you can discuss? I know that one of you, we're going to share a passage from the book as well. So what should we expect from the book? I mean, if you are not like on Twitter, like we are, is there still something for you? Because I would argue yes. But like from the author's standpoint, what is your sense of like what to expect if we're going into this and we haven't read the previous work from you, Patrick? Right. Well, we definitely wrote this not in, you know, we didn't, we didn't want you to have to come from Twitter land to understand this. So, you know, even if near a tantrum is near a tandem in real life, hypothetically, you don't need to know that. You don't need to know her Twitter habits. You know, basically we're covering electoral politics, the Orange Man in the White House, trickle down resistance is covered. We've got lots of little themes of different segments. That's how we broke the book up, where they discuss, you know, just what's happening in politics, essentially, where the Democratic Party is going. Okay. Okay. That's interesting. One thing that I wanted to ask you guys, because you wrote a book that's a satire, and you know, one thing that I heard is that satire during the Trump era is dead, because life itself is so strange that it's basically like we're living through a parody. So, Joy, how do you write a satire during a time that is basically literally satirical? Like how do you make it more absurd than it is? Or do the characters kind of just write themselves? Like what's your take on this? There is definitely a lot of quotes that maybe we don't use quotation marks for. It's very, it's very, the shit libs are helping us inadvertently write it themselves. I mean, they really are, it's one of the things that we kind of have toad the line with is that Pat and I both find like literally nothing offensive. So it's been difficult to be like, okay, is this too far though? But I mean, you know, making fun of people who are resistors and, you know, the pussyhat people and the armchair activists and stuff, it really does write itself. And I think it's been so therapeutic for us. And there is not a single burner who will not absolutely identify and crack up. Yeah, I wanted to ask you about Bernie Sanders, actually. I mean, we're all clearly Bernie Sanders supporters, people who read this book from the perspective of a Bernie Sanders supporter, they're going to get it. Like all the criticisms that we've been railing against for years now, you know, you see that in this book. But Pat, what are the qualifications of the average shit lib in your book? Like if you can summarize basically, what are the ingredients that make them hate Bernie Sanders? Like what is it specifically from a character standpoint? Why do they hate Bernie Sanders so much? Right? Well, if you're talking about the average citizen, you know, I would say they're so susceptible to mainstream media programming, you know, they, it's, they're almost not at fault at some level, except that, you know, if at this point you don't see that the media isn't telling you the full story on these things, you know, you've got some ownership on that. Where I don't think in 2016, it kind of hit a lot of people by shock by a storm shock. I don't know what the right word is, but a lot of people trusted MSNBC in 2016. And, you know, every year us on the left push people the shit libs or whatever you want to call them, you know, part of, part of what we try to do is break down that programming that they've been taught that, you know, Democrats, good Republicans, bad. And so your average, you know, person that this book is about or mocking, they're stuck in 2016 thinking still, they don't, they still don't see, they don't see the problems with the Democratic Party. And if they do, they, they, they think it's more important to just win regardless of what those problems are. They don't want to discuss those problems. They think discussing those problems hurts our chances. Yeah. And I want you to touch on something that I was thinking about in terms of like some of the characters in this near a tantrum. Alyssa Shilano, no, I don't know who you guys are basing these characters off of. I have no idea. But let's say, you know, they're reading this book, is this like, is this intended to just be therapeutic for Bernie Sanders supporters? Or do you actually think there is the capacity to kind of get these types of people, not necessarily the tantrums of the world, but the followers of the tantrums of the world to maybe think a little bit more deeply, be more introspective and think maybe, you know, my thinking is a little flawed. Maybe it's so ridiculous that it is, you know, a parody. Right. Like, is there that potential to change hearts and minds? Do you think for the average reader, like the non, the non person who's like in a position of power, but like the MSNBC viewer, for example? Right. I mean, I would say this book on its own has no chance of doing that. But collectively, it adds to the narrative out there, you know, when, when you read this book, and then you see the protest in the streets and the police violence against protesters, but then you turn on MSNBC and you, you don't get any of that information. So I think all of it adds up and has a chance. I think in a way, satire and parody sort of smack people in the face sometimes, their cognitive dissonance and their, you know, their group think a way of thinking and, you know, all their confirmation bias when they, when they hear things about progressives. You have a shot when you mock people to get them out of that because they might laugh at the joke and then that gets them thinking, why was that funny? You know, what was it about that? So there's a chance. But on its own, I mean, the cognitive dissonance is so thick with people, their true shit libs that, you know, we just have to keep at it and then accept that we get five people a week on our side. Yeah. I feel like, you know, we've made some strides after 2016. I kind of feel like the left like coalition is broadening because I think that everything that we've been saying has kind of been proven correct, you know, during the COVID-19 era, all of the Black Lives Matter protests. So it's almost like we keep getting vindicated. It's just a matter of people realizing that what we were saying was right all along. Like it's about Bernie, but it's not all about Bernie. Like he was kind of the spark that ignited this movement. But I mean, I think the underpinnings were already there. You know, the, the material conditions that led to his rise were already there. But I want to ask you, so this is kind of, I don't know if you guys can answer this. Let's say, hypothetically speaking, we have a resistance shit libs wants to parody the Bernie Bros. What do you think your character would be like, Joy? And is there a name that maybe they'd come up with? I'm kind of putting you on the spot. But I've been thinking about this myself, like reading your book. And Joy, you tell, you said something that kind of got me to think about this, like, oh, well, maybe since I'm calling them out and writing a parody about them, they're going to do one about us. And I was thinking like, what would my Bernie Bro character be? So I'm curious, what is what is your ultimate Bernie Bro character that you would think if they wrote this, that they would name you if they if they wrote this hypothetical book? Well, I think they would definitely call me a fan, because I make jokes about like seeing Bernie 17 times and meeting them like a dozen times and, you know, crying when I, you know, watch his speeches and things like that. So I'm sure they would say, I make him a deity. And, you know, I probably have some kind of like crush on him or something like that. But, you know, I don't care. I can, I mean, bring it. I don't care. I'm all good with myself. You can take it or leave it. I have no qualms talking about Bernie and criticizing him. And I think our last show together was one of the best shows I've ever done. It was so great to like, you know, delve deep and really talk about, you know, our pain and the way, you know, we're hurting right now that he dropped out and things like that. So if they really want to come at me and make me seem like a fan girl, I'll just show them receipts that, you know, I'm not. Yeah, we were very critical of Bernie Sanders. And I've been critical of Bernie Sanders. And, you know, I think that's kind of proving that this isn't like a cult of personality, because we have the capacity to be critical. You know, it's more than Bernie Sanders, as I stated, you know, the movement was already on the cusp of, I think, emerging. It just needed someone to kind of like help push it in that right direction. But same question for you, Pat. I'm curious. Like what character would you be in this book if the shit libs wrote one about us? I mean, what I would go for would be that we're never happy. We're purity bros. And if we had a list of 10 demands and they gave us nine, we would still be in the streets asking for their heads. And, you know, there's some truth to that. But mostly it's hyperbole because it doesn't really apply. It's like, we really get one out of the 10 of the demands. And they claim in that sense that we're still asking for too much. It's unreasonable. But really, we're not even asking for all 10. We're asking for them to fight for all 10, because at the end of the day, we're still going to have to negotiate with the Republicans. But most of the time we're coming to the table with nothing hard left to to to barter with. We're not, you know, we're not we're not negotiating from a position of strength. So so they would mock us for that, for sure. Yeah. I wanted to ask you guys logistically, because you guys, the audience might not know this, haven't actually met each other in person, to my knowledge, right? And so you live on, you know, different sides of the country, and you wrote a book together. How did that work out? Like in terms of like coordination, are you guys in constant contact? Do you kind of just like write a chapter and then you like compare notes? How does that work? Because I like can barely write a book myself, like I'm one just too lazy. But like writing with a second person that kind of adds, you know, another factor in the complexity of writing a book, you know, so how do you how do you do this with two people across the country? It's been, you know, it's had his challenges, but it's kind of crazy because I asked him to do the book because I was just so disgusted with all the tar read treatment, you know, and stuff like that. And I just hit him up and I said, look, I know we live like, I'm in Pennsylvania, he's in California, and it's I know you're working on another book, but let's do something together. And he's like, okay, let's talk this weekend. And it just kind of works out. So the internet has been amazing. Email, conference calls, things like that. And we've gotten our stride for a while, we were like, all right, chapter one, and you write chapter two. But then we just got to the point where we were kind of finishing each other's sentences and kind of, you know, combining our statements into paragraphs and things like that. And it's, it's almost like we got each other's hand, which is kind of creepy. Having never met. But yeah, it's worked out really, really well. I think like, we've, we've written equal amounts in the book. And it's just kind of float if we have, you know, questions or any kind of qualms with anything, we just highlight it. And then when we talk on the phone and say, hey, I'm not sure about this, why don't we say it like so and so. So, you know, gay for conference calls and email. Yeah, I'll add that because of the structure of the book being a panel forum and not primarily plot driven, we didn't have to coordinate so much of that stuff that you normally would if you're writing a book. So, you know, if we had a chapter, for example, on trickle down resistance, we would plug in there the concepts we wanted to hit. And then we would just start filling in the narrative with the dialogue with who says what to who. And so, you know, Joy might chime in Alyssa Schlano says, oh, something about her poodle in her purse, you know, in one section, for example. So that part, it was easy. And then the editing part, we would just go through together line by line and tweak and change. And it's really been easy. And with the lockdown, we're both stuck at home. So it's been a great use of our time, really. Yeah, I was curious about that because I've seen your guys' streams together. And like, it seems like in terms of sense of humor, you guys are definitely compatible. So I know that like the humor will be consistent. Like you won't be, you know, yanked back and forth in terms of narrative, depending on the chapter. But, you know, it still is a lot of work. Like, it's a tremendous amount of work that you guys did in a couple of months, which I think is just insane. And I give you guys so much credit for that. But here's the thing, I haven't read the book yet. So I am going into this relatively blind, I know it's a panel, possibly a play one day, who knows. But can we get a passage from the book? I know you guys said it's possible. So can we get a little bit of a demo, if you will, of the book? Yes. And don't be coy. We sent you the first chapter and you gave us a quote. That's true. I did. And it is on our website. So yeah, shout out to like Ron Placone, Graham Ellwood, Mike and all the amazing people who we sent a chapter to who gave us a quote. It was incredible. But yeah, so here's just, you know, it's kind of, it was difficult to pick just one, you know, a little passage out. But Nancy Pagosi, before we begin, I'd like to take a moment to acknowledge the movement in the streets and the challenging years so many Democrats have endured. Please join me for 2016 seconds of silence as we take a knee together in a show of solidarity. James Garville, is this a bad joke, Nancy? Are we really doing the Black Lives Matter thing straight out of the gate? Nancy Pagosi, don't be silly, James. This is an exercise to mourn Hillary's stolen 2016 presidency. It was her turn again. We were still with her in 2016, and now we're still withering. Alyssa Shilano, oh my God, I brought the perfect cap for this. All colors matter. Alyssa Shilano reaches in her bag and pulls out a pussy hat adorned with kente cloth. Nina Burner, put that down. Have you lost your damn mind? Nancy Pagosi, would you just stop it already with the purity test, Nina? No one's perfect. Let's begin. Nancy begins to lean over wobbles and then stops abruptly. Soledad a lion. Everything okay, Nancy? Nancy Pagosi. Actually, so dead. I think in the spirit of independent women and partially in the spirit of the wonderful martini I had backstage, we should probably have people perform the moment of silence when they get home. Alyssa Shilano, oh my God, I'll put on my resistance playlist and light my homosexual candle. So perfect. Joanne Green, excellent. Let's get this party started with a quick look back at happier times. That's good stuff, good stuff. Okay, okay. And I will say that just based on my preliminary reading of the first chapter, I would so far rate it a 10 out of 10. So we'll see, we'll see. Okay, so tell us what we can do. You mentioned pre-orders, we'll have links down in the description box. When does the book come out, Pat? So we put up pre-orders starting on the 30th and then the book should be shipping in August. Exact date, we're not sure because we have to get it back from our book provider. But if you go to savage and pat.com, that's where you can get the book. I did want to make sure and do a shout out for the guy that did our cover. He's a fantastic illustrationist. He does comics and political cartoons, Danny Hillman. He's on Twitter at just Danny Hillman, hell man. And he was great to work with on it, fantastic guy. He did some illustrations for the inside of the book as well. That's exciting. I look forward to that. So once again, the title of the book is the Yas Queen Chronicles, coverage of the first annual resistance forum by Joy Marie Mann and Patrick Cote. Pre-order it today. Thank you all so much. I'm definitely looking forward to it. If there's anything that's going to be cathartic after what we dealt with throughout this year, I think it's going to be this book. So everyone check that out and tell them that I sent you when you pre-order it.