 I mean for one thing what is mental health? Yeah, you know really health means wholeness And I think that might be a good entry point because Then we can ask what is a whole human being and I think a whole human being is someone with a full complement of relationships from Distant relationships to very intimate relationships Most human beings who have lived on this planet had very intimate relationships With the people around them and the natural world around them. I remember reading. I think it must have been from David Abram one of his books, but this account of of Traveling with an indigenous person on the land, you know in every single Feature every every boulder every hill every stream had a story It was woven into a tapestry of meaning that went back for many generations So that's a kind of an intimacy and to know what every plant is used for and the stories around that plant and to know the Habits of every animal and the way that that animal relates with human beings So that's a kind of of intimacy a kind of relationship and then also to know the people around you deeply to know the people who who grow your food and make your things and and and to have these Multidimensional relationships. Okay, so that would be a whole human being and you can see how in modern society We have none of that. I realized I'm saying my brothers in my brother's farm for the summer we go there in the summer And yeah, so many beautiful bird songs, you know, and I realized If I hear the bird song, there's probably not more than five or that most ten birds right and actually picture the bird Most people would have been able to do that with hundreds of birds. So this whole world of nature even You know, I'm on a farm on land, but even so It's it's alien to me. So I feel a bit alone I don't have that sense of belonging in the world and the same thing for social relationships You go to the store. Do you know that person? You maybe you do a little bit if you go to the same store every day But but you don't know them nearly as well as you did your neighbor in a peasant village in England in, you know 1300 like it that in that situation you were intimate with so many people so we don't we have none of that and and I think that is a lack of wholeness therefore a lack of health that comes out as all kinds of anxiety and insecurity and and Neurosis and You know, then we're given a pill to cure it or or therapy psychotherapy. There you are in a room with somebody and Maybe that actually does provide a little bit of intimacy, you know Someone gets to know your story really well, but it's not really what you need So you could say that mental illness is built into society as we know it and therefore to heal mental illness or to Foster mental health is fundamentally a social political economic problem. It's not just how do we treat people better?