 We as believers must learn to not only apply those things that we consider spiritual applications like prayer, like spiritual warfare, like intercession, but also the practical measures, wisdom and counsel and comfort and addressing things in the fullness of truth. These are also biblical principles that we might refer to as the more practical means. Now, we are gonna be talking about spiritual components. We are gonna be talking about the practical components and we're gonna be talking, as I said, about inner healing. This is a very important subject. But as we begin to address this subject, I think it's important that we come at it from both angles and my guest is very gifted at doing this. And in fact, she is probably the most re-requested guest that I've ever had. If all my guests that I've had on this broadcast, Vanessa Bresenio probably has the most requests. People always ask me, when are you gonna have her back on? When are you gonna have her back on? I said, soon, we'll get her out. Well, that day is today. I wanna welcome to viral revival, Vanessa Bresenio. Vanessa, how you doing? I am doing well. I'm so excited to be here. What an honor. I'm flattered to hear that I'm the most requested guest. That's interesting, but I love you all. Thank you for having me. Thank you, Diga, for having me. I'm excited. Now, for those you don't know, Vanessa and I go way back. So we've known each other. How old were we pretty much my whole life? How many years now? Born and raised. I'm a few years older than you and your sister is one of my best friends. We've slept over, I've slept over your house. I was raised with you guys. So we are definitely very close. We're like family. So her and my sister are very close. Our family is very close. And so that's not why she's on. She's on because she has a wonderful gift in this area. And Vanessa, I think it's time we dive right into this. So let's start from the beginning because I had asked you earlier, kind of how we would maybe dive into this subject because there's many different angles that we can come about it. And I think that it's important, as I said, we address the spiritual components as well as what we consider the practical opponents, though the practical components also have spiritual dynamics as well. But talk to us now about emotional and mental pain. Let's just kind of cover the basics first. And then we can kind of talk about how these things can affect us in more ways than we might realize. We could talk about the spiritual dynamics, practical dynamics and so forth. But as I said, why don't we just start with the very practical things? Talk to us about mental and emotional pain. First, I wanna ask you guys a question. Like Jesus asked the lame man at the pool of Bethesda, he said, do you want to be made well? And if that's you today, I want you to comment below, I want to be made whole. I want to be well. And today I'm gonna be talking about emotional pain and there's emotional pain and there's emotional agony. Emotional pain is something that we're gonna all experience. Emotional pain is what we're all gonna feel. An emotion to our mind is like pain to our physical body. It's an alertment to let us know that something is taking place. As we touch a hot pan, we jump back and we feel the pain that's letting us know not to do that. And so pain and emotion is not a bad thing. I think growing up in the church, we almost feel guilty. We feel another pain, another emotion, other than joy or happiness. We almost shrink back. We're almost, we feel guilty for saying that we're sad or that we're concerned, that we're worried because we immediately get the backlash like, well, pray about it, maybe you're in sin, maybe you're not well. And that's just not the truth. A lot of us are gonna face emotional pain and we're gonna feel that and it's okay. God made us emotional beings. We are not robots. We are made to feel and that's okay. I really like that you addressed that because you and I both agree that there are spiritual dynamics to everything. And when someone is experiencing, like you said, emotional pain, of course we wanna pray with them, of course we wanna comfort them. But I love that you talked about the fact that generally speaking, this isn't the case in every circumstance, but generally speaking, whenever a Christian expresses, you know, I'm sensing a little sadness, you know, they kind of get attacked from all different angles and it's almost like they should be made to be, to feel guilty for experiencing these emotions. Now you said there was a difference between emotional pain and emotional agony. What did you mean by that? So emotional pain is something that many of us are gonna feel on a day-to-day basis. Emotional agony is that deep pain that we're experiencing that we can't just get over immediately. And so because the majority of people don't experience emotional agony, a lot of us don't know how to relate to that. And so as a marriage license therapist, I know that when people come to me, they're really facing and experiencing emotional agony. And maybe you're here and you're saying, you know, I've been dealing with this for so long and no one understands it. I've talked to people, maybe my leaders, I've talked to people at my church and no one's really grasping what I'm feeling. If that's you, you know, just leave a fire emoji there. Say that's me, I've been feeling emotional agony. And you know, as children, you know, we're raised in many different situations. A lot of us will suffer, a lot of us will experience things that are out of our control. And when we experience things out of our control, when we go through trauma, when we go through experiences that children are not supposed to go through, we immediately feel the pain. And naturally, naturally we go to a coping mechanism, a coping skill to help us relieve that pain. I will say that Americans are addicted to trying to get rid of pain. And the thing is we are not trying to get rid of it. We are trying to work through it. And I'm gonna say that if you can't feel it, you're not gonna be healed through it. We have to feel pain in order to experience a healing. And so what do I mean by that? We are quick to try to cover pain. We are quick to try to escape pain. We are quick to try to hide from it. And can I say that Christians are really, really good at hiding from their pain, especially when we're serving in ministry, especially in the church, I don't care if you're a leader, I don't care if you're a teacher, we use ministry to escape and to hide from our pain. Why? And how? And this is why no one recognizes it because they see you and they say, wow, they're a great servant of the Lord. Look how hard they're working. But many of us use ministry as a way to hide from our pain. And we continue to do the good works because we think that's what God wants from us. He doesn't want your good works. He wants your honesty. He wants you to become vulnerable. He wants your humility. He wants you to acknowledge that you are experiencing the pain and to identify it and to go after it. It's interesting as you're talking, I'm reading some of the public comments listed here. Some are saying I drink to cope. Some said I trash talk to cope. Some said I make fun of others to cope. They're leaving various different things that they do in the comments section to cope. Why is it that people try to run from these feelings? Why is it they try to hide from the pain instead of addressing it head on? Emotional pain is also manifested physically. So we feel it in our heart, we feel it in our mind. A lot of us probably have a lot of headaches because of the emotional pain. And naturally we'll turn to things to numb ourselves. We don't want to feel that pain anymore. And this is why we turn to the drinking, we turn to the drugs, we turn to the sexual relationships because there's immediate gratification. And we are so used to an instant healing. And here's what happens when we get saved. Is that we say, Lord, free me, deliver me. And yes, we may get rid of all the bad coping skills, but again, then we pick up busyness. We pick up roles and ministries. And then we say, well, this is not a bad thing because I'm doing it for God. And here are some signs that you may be hiding behind the things of God. A lot of us use the things of God to hide from God. And guess what, we can't do that. And so maybe you find yourself overwhelmed with ministry and you constantly find yourself people pleasing. You find yourself in a place where you just like to really help people, but that is your way of saying, I don't want to be helped, it's not all of you. We get a sense of fulfillment in that. A lot of us find the church and we find a sense of belonging. We say, man, I've never been loved like this. I've never been accepted like this. So the church can actually become a negative, an escape to our pain because we feel good when we're there. And maybe some of us were waiting for an emotional experience every time we go to service when we're there at worship at the altar. We're waiting for an emotional experience because we're addicted to that. And here's the danger is that we're more addicted to the emotional experience than we are with the truth, with the word of God. Here's another sign is that when you're feeling good, when emotionally when you're well, you stop going to church and you start doing your own thing. But then when you feel that pain again, you find yourself returning, you find yourself texting a leader, I need help again, I need God. But in reality, you're just trying to cope with what you're going through. And so yes, a healthy coping mechanism can turn bad if you are escaping or trying to cover up the pain that you're experiencing. And so there are wrong ways as you're saying to address these particular issues. And again, I wanna clarify what Vanessa and I are not saying is we're not saying that there's never a time to pray. We believe in deliverance, we believe in spiritual warfare, we believe in casting out demons, we believe in all those things. We're talking about these aspects of these bondages that you address after you've dealt with the spiritual components. And even so, she's not saying that every single person who is in ministry and who is busy is doing this. What she's saying is that there are people who are actually using ministry as a means to hide behind it. She was very clear on that, but I like to be, you guys know, I'm extra, extra, extra clear. And I always explain so that make sure that it's not something that can be taken and misunderstood. So Vanessa, you're very clear on that. I just wanted to make sure the community who might be catching up to that also gets that truth. But we're talking about these unhealthy ways that they try to deal with these issues. You're saying that some of these individuals are coping instead of actually addressing it. What does actually addressing these issues look like? And more importantly, how exactly do you think these issues even arise in the first place? And so here's some healthy ways we can deal with it. I will say it's okay to feel the pain. And like I said, we need to experience the pain. We need to feel it in order to heal it. Can I ask you, what do you mean by that? Because someone's gonna hear that. Even me hearing that, we need to feel the pain. Someone say, well, I don't want to. That sounds bad to me. Can you dig a little more just on that first point before going on to the other? Two things you can ask yourself. What am I experiencing? And so identify, I'm experiencing fear or I'm experiencing jealousy, anger, rage. Call it out. What is it that you're feeling? So it's okay to identify it. And then ask yourself, where am I feeling this? So it's a time to be mindful. You're in the moment. You're saying, what am I feeling? What am I experiencing? Just doing that alone is bringing an awareness to your brain, to your mind to even deal with it. Because if you're continually, a lot of times we go to church and someone's like, how are you feeling? How are you doing? I'm fine, I'm fine. We over-spiritualize things to say like, oh, it's nothing, I'm just getting through it. I'm okay today. It's okay to identify, you know what, today I'm really feeling anxious. I don't know what's going on. I just feel like my heart beating, like my hands are sweaty, like I'm short of breath. And it's okay to identify exactly what it is. Here's the next thing. Ask yourself, why? Why am I being triggered? Why am I being triggered emotionally in this moment? Because we are so quick to say that person made me angry, that person made me sad. We're quick to not take responsibility. And so we can sit in that moment and say, why am I feeling this way? And it's okay to sit there in the emotion and be curious about it. And we don't do that enough. We quickly say, I don't wanna feel this. I don't like this and I'm running from it. And that's not what God is calling us to do. He's calling us to feel it, inquire about it and then bring it to his throne. When we bring it to his throne, we can say, God, I'm anxious. I'm feeling overwhelmed. I'm feeling burdened. My heart hurts. And Lord, I need your help. And I love, I was reading the story of Job this week. And when he lost his family, when he lost it all, when he was in the midst of emotional agony, he tore his robe, he shaved his head and he fell down to worship. And he said, you know, Lord, I have nothing else. And he was honest, he was transparent, and it was okay. And I love at the end of the verse that said, but in doing this, he did not sin. And so we can experience that emotional agony and doesn't mean we're in sin. We are just identifying and we're taking it before the throne of God. So sin can cause these emotions, but not all these emotions are caused by sin. This is a very important distinction that has to be made, especially if you're going to be honest about what you're feeling and not be fearful of being condemned for being honest about it. I think as even as you're talking, Ness, I think of the psalmist where he wrote, why so downcast all my soul? He acknowledged it before he made the turn and said, put your hope in God. So it's that acknowledgement of it, not the avoiding of it. And I think some people are really afraid of actually addressing, I know especially when I was dealing with anxiety very heavily, I would almost try to trick myself like it's not there, I'm fine. And I would ignore it for so long it would just build up, build up, build up. So let's say this Ness, let's say someone is sitting in front of you right now and they're saying, okay, I'm an emotion. Let's just, let's pick anxiety. I know there's a number of things we can go over. Someone sitting in front of you saying, okay, I feel anxious. I tend to try to just ignore this issue. I want you to talk to that individual. Just real plainly, real forthright, tell them the honest truth about what they need to start doing to really address the root of these issues. And so when we say anxiety, a lot of people say I'm experiencing anxiety, I struggle with anxiety. And so what we're really saying, anxiety is the symptom. Anxiety is what we're feeling, it's manifested in our heart beating, it's manifested in us becoming undone. So just know that that is the symptom. And going back to what I said, why? And so we have to uncover the root of it because what we do so quickly is to cover the symptom. And so it's like, it's like if we have a cold, we have a virus in us, and our nose is runny, we're coughing, and we're quick to take the cough medicine, we're quick to blow our nose, but if we only deal with that issue, we're never getting to the virus within. And so as you experience the anxiety, as you experience it, it's okay to sit there and to just really take it before God. I'm gonna be completely transparent. I've never felt anxiety until I went out to pastor. And I felt like it was a direct attack on me. And one thing that I started to feel was like a pit in my stomach, a heaviness on my chest. And I was like, what is this? I was very confused. And so in these last few years, what I started to do because weekly, there's always gonna be things that come up that make me a little anxious and that put a pit in my stomach. So I take care of it very quickly now. And so something that I do is I imagine like this heaviness in my pit and then I sit there with it. And I imagine it just coming out of my mouth and I just imagine myself placing it at the feet of God. And I say, Lord, whatever this is that I'm experiencing right now, I give it to you. And then another thing, our false beliefs can actually make the depression, the pain, the anxiety, worsen. So if we have the wrong idea in our mind, the wrong thoughts, if we continue to play those narratives, it's only gonna get worse. And so here's one thing that I've learned to do is ask myself, why are you fearful? And it's always a fear that someone is thinking that I'm not there for them or that I'm not a good enough pastor or whatever it is. And so what I have to do is separate my personal self from the actual situation. And I have to remind myself that I am good enough and that it's not my fault and that if I've done everything I can do then I have to release people. And I'm gonna speak to some of you today. A lot of you have taken on the burdens of other people and it's not yours to take on. And you're attaching it to a fear. You're attaching it. You know, a lot of us deal with a fear of rejection. And so we don't have any healthy boundaries in our life because we're so fearful that people are gonna leave us. So we attach to people and we try to please them and we get anxious when something goes wrong because we have a fear that they're gonna leave us. And we bind that spirit right now because the fear of rejection is heavy on so many people and in that moment we need to sit there and tell ourself the truth and say, God, I'm not rejected by you. I'm accepted by you. I'm going to be rejected in this world but that doesn't change who I am as a child of God. That doesn't change who you've called me to be and we have to correct those false beliefs because although the emotion is not gonna decrease as fast because emotions take a little longer to catch up because we're already feeling them but you'll get to know that as you go to bed and you marinate on the word of God, the truth of God that eventually the emotions will begin to arise and that you will begin to feel better. But here's a thing that we do is overthink. Who's an overthinker in this place? Overthinkers have a difficult time coming out of those moments because they'll continue to rehearse and they'll continue to even speak about it to everyone that they see and they'll say, do you know this person did this? I went through this and as they speak it, they'll continue to think it and the pain will only get stronger and it only become a memory in our brain that sticks even harder. There's this question here, someone's asking, would this be the same as being emotionally tapped out like someone who can't even produce emotions so they also cover this with being busy with their ministry or work? What do you think of that, Ness? That sounds like a place of numbness and I speak to so many people each week where they no longer feel anything and they say, I'm numb, I feel like a zombie just going through this life and I know a lot of you guys are probably experiencing that. You're just going through the motion, you're going through your daily routine but you can't feel anymore. Here's the danger in numbing yourself is that we don't pick and choose what emotions we can numb. When we shut them down, when we shut negative emotions down, we shut them all down and so we can't even feel the happiness and the joy anymore because you've learned to become numb and a lot of us in the midst of trauma and the midst of stress, we've learned to dissociate and that means that we escape through our mind, we escape through reading books, we escape through music, we escape through fantasy, we escape through playing video games and so we've learned to do this year after year in our pain, we escape, we dissociate so this is why it's even hard for you to focus at work, at school and wherever you are because you no longer know how to be in the present, you have learned to just go off in your mind and I wanna tell you friend that God does not bypass your mind, he does not want to bypass what you're thinking, he wants to be present with you and he needs you to be present and to come back to that present moment, a simple practice that you guys can start to do is called mindfulness, I know that's funny because they call me mindfulness but mindfulness is really sitting in a place of meditation and the word of God tells us to meditate on the things of God day and night, the word of God knows what it's talking about my friend and so as we meditate, we sit in our place and our quiet place and especially in the moment where you're feeling the anxiety, the depression, maybe you can't even get out of bed that morning so what mindfulness it does, it brings us back to the present moment so you can close your eyes and you can get detailed with what you're experiencing in the moment so you can say, oh, I feel like the wind hitting my hands, I can feel like heat on my face, you can rub like your bed sheets and say what I'm feeling right now, something soft so it's training your brain, it's a practical way to train your brain to bring you back to reality, bring you back to what's happening in the present moment and so we can do that even in our time of prayer and so we can maybe take a walk, go watch a sunset and just look at the Lord's beauty and thank Him and the more, I'll say this, the more we can develop a heart of gratitude, a heart of thanksgiving, the more we can affix our mind on the things that we're thankful for, even in that time of mindfulness, we can say, Lord, I'm out here and I'm just experiencing your fresh air, I see the birds, Lord, wow, you feed those birds and you take care of them, how much more are you gonna take care of me? So you're really being in the moment, you're being mindful and it's gonna take practice but it's something that you can start doing tonight as we log off, you can sit there in your room and in your time of prayer, you can just come back to reality, come back to a moment and be vulnerable and say, God, my heart aches, I'm in pain and you can lay down, you can put your face on the rug, whatever it is, he's okay with this, he wants you to come to his throne because he really wants to heal you. What Vanessa is giving you is actually a very powerful biblical tool. Now, this is not to be confused with the New Age teaching of mindfulness, you gotta understand something, the enemy loves to pervert and steal from the word of God because he mixes in a little bit of lies with the truth and then it's more believable that way. What we're simply talking about here is being honest with where you are, it's learning to, as the scripture says, renew the mind, how many times the scripture commanded us something concerning our minds. Think on these things, set your mind on the things above, be transformed by the renewing of your mind as a man thinks so is he. So we're not talking about this in the New Age sense and that the power is in you and that you have the ability to do this, rather we're talking about getting real about the moment that you're in, what you're experiencing, what you're feeling so that you can then reach for the word of God, fix your mind on those truths and then ultimately defeat the deception of the enemy. So please don't confuse this for that New Age nonsense that's out there as well. This is quite simply and practically and biblically just being honest about where you are, acknowledging where you are in the moment and then using the truth of the word of God to combat that. Somebody wrote something here I also wanted you to see and I just lost the comment but I'm gonna pull it up just, oh here it is, right here. I was diagnosed with PTSD at 11 years old. I've dealt with bullying and abuse most of my childhood. I taught myself how to not feel. I want to unlearn that. I'm deeply sorry that you've experienced that and I feel your pain even as I read that, I'm sorry I got choked up a little bit because someone in your position has experienced so much pain and not only at school, but at home you had no escape and the only escape that you had was the numbing of the emotion so that they wouldn't affect you and I want to say to you today, remind yourself that I am safe, I'm no longer there, the Lord has me, I am with him and one thing that you can start doing is to just begin to say it out loud. Even a simple thing is journaling. Journaling what you experience, the emotional pain, a lot of people think why would I even revisit that? That sounds really dumb. Why would I bring up those emotions? And so emotions are alive and we can't bury something that's alive because they will come crawling out in different areas in our life. It's called leaking. We will leak in our attitude. We're gonna leak in our withdrawing from people. So I would say is to learn to say it's okay to feel again and take it before the throne of God and say, Lord, I want to learn how to feel again and I want to learn how to deal with this correctly and maybe you were in a time where you didn't know how to deal with this so you just shut them off and so even in your private time it's okay to cry, you don't even know how to cry anymore. This is something that's very common is that when we shut off all the emotions we're so numb to even cry and it's okay to sit in that place and to cry and to say God, I was pained when I was rejected. I was pained when I was going through that trauma when I had no control. And so remind yourself that you have some control now and there's things that you don't have control over and the things that you do have control over now is dealing with this in a healthy way. And so I would say even find a leader, find someone that you trust to speak to these things about and to have them pray with you, help them counsel you through this. And I think that's why therapy is such a good tool and I would say not all therapies wise and healthy but even if you can see a Christian therapist that would be healthy because it's a person that's not emotionally related to you and you're just there opening up yourself and you're saying this is what I dealt with. Maybe you've never even talked about it. So journaling is good, praying about it, becoming vulnerable and even just learning to be okay with crying, being okay with laughing, being okay with feeling again. And so it might be difficult because you've never experienced it. Well, you've learned to shut it down but even learn to feel the pain again. It's okay to feel the pain because in order to feel it, you have to feel it. And it's not like physical pain where we can take medicine and our headache goes away and get healed over time. Emotional pain, it doesn't heal over time on its own. We have to be active in that. You know, some physical pain can heal like we scrape our knee that can heal but emotional healing, we think that, oh, let's just let time go by but time doesn't heal wounds. It's the daily activity, it's feeling, it's become vulnerable, being humble, coming before the throne of God and not escaping, not using the negative coping skills because then that makes it even worse. We're actually feel ourself with guilt and shame when we engage into those activities. And so we're just on a vicious cycle that we need to move out of. So this brings us basically now to those practical disciplines that Vanessa has been talking about. This is allowing yourself to feel the emotion and not just dismissing it. It's focusing your mind on what the word of God has said, not worldly meditation, which is emptying your mind, but Godly meditation, which is filling your mind with the word and then obviously rehearsing those against that deception. Now this brings us to this point, Vanessa, which I think this comment actually really perfectly illustrates. So this user asks, what can I do though? So in order to apply these tools, you have to kind of focus your mind, right? So they're asking, what can I do to stop my brain from constantly thinking? It's very difficult for me to quiet my mind. And I probably had maybe a dozen of the comments just now that are similar to that. And it almost seems like a catch 22 here. In order to find freedom, you have to learn to control your thoughts, but in order to control your thoughts, it seems like you need freedom first. So what do you say to that person? He says, okay, I wanna apply what you're saying, but I'm having a lot of trouble learning to quiet the mind. This is one of actually the most common things that people come to me in therapy and they can't even focus. Some of them don't even know what it's like to have this peace in their mind. And their mind is racing, their mind is continuing to go, go, go. And I would say that it's even difficult probably for you to sleep because at night when you lay down, that is when the mind goes and goes and goes. And so it's not about putting a pillow over our head and saying, stop it. I don't wanna think about this anymore. It's not about doing that because we can't control that, right? It's like saying, don't think about a big pink elephant. That's all you're gonna think about, right? And so here's a few things that we can do is get curious again. Write it down, think about it. What am I meditating on? What is my core belief right now? And so the toxic thoughts that we'll rehearse will always go back to a fear that is gripped deep down inside. And so it's almost like you have to take a step back and look at what are you thinking about? What are you worried about and evaluate it in that time? Instead of letting yourself just, okay, I'm gonna just let it go. I'm gonna just think about it. Really press in and say, what am I thinking about at this moment? That's what is the thing that I'm rehearsing over and over and ask yourself, what is the fear behind this thought? And usually here's a few things. Is the fear that I'm not good enough? The fear that I have no value? The fear that I don't have a sense of belonging? The fear that I'm gonna lose someone? The fear that I'm going to fail? And so even just that fear alone, the fear that I'm gonna fail, we will either shut down and not try at all or we will try to be a perfectionist. And so evaluate to that question, just evaluate what is going on in those repetitive thoughts and what fear is it attached to? And once you can identify that, then in that moment, you can start to rebuke those fears and replace them with the truth of God. And that's how we begin to rewire the mind is with the truth, with the word of God. The parable of the seeds falling on soil comes to mind. And when the seeds fell on the wayside and there was an immediate joy, but because the seeds weren't planted, we went back to what we were going to do. And so when the word of God comes to you, when you read the word of God, you have to understand what it's saying and you have to believe it. Because a lot of us are like, I read my word, I hear the word of God all day, but do you really believe it? Do you believe it for your life? Do you believe that you are worthy, that you are now made new, that you are a new creation, that you are adopted into the kingdom of heaven, that you are now in a new place? A lot of us don't believe that we are made new. And I love what the word of God says is to put off the old things, put off the old things. And even in our mind, we need to put off the old things, the old ways of thinking. And here's the thing, we can't put it off if we don't know what it is. We need to identify what is the old, what is the word of God, which is new and how to replace. Cause like Dika said, we're not emptying ourself, we're filling ourself with the new because if we don't fill ourself with anything, we're really empty and we're just operating on what we know is the old. I wanna read a portion of scripture here. All of the joys of those who do not follow the advice of the wicked, this is Psalm one, verse one, or stand around with sinners or join in with mockers, verse two now. But they delight in the law of the Lord meditating on it day and night, especially for those of you who were saved and redeemed from things like witchcraft or the new age, it can be a little jarring to hear words like meditation use. That's why I wanted to read this scripture to you. The word meditation is simple. It simply means repetition in thought. Everyone meditates on something, whether they know it or not. So when the Bible talks about meditation, it's talking about repeating the truths of the word of God in your mind. Now of course the enemy would have you meditate on other things and you know, we know there's a difference between biblical meditation and things like yoga, which we know the philosophy of yoga, the religion of yoga, which really it is a religion. Those teachings are not of God, obviously. But what we're telling you here is to meditate on the word. And that word brings that stability. And that stability helps to calm the mind. So I think this has been a really helpful time here. Now what I wanna do now, would you take a moment? I know we can't address, I mean there's so many things that we can go add and so many angles we could come from. But hopefully this began, I believe it did because I think Vanessa did a wonderful job of laying out these truths. I believe this is a good foundation now from which you can begin to build. You don't have to stay stuck in that bondage. You don't have to live just coping with that pain. And you know, many of you are spiritually walking with a limp and you think you're gonna walk with that limp forever. But you don't have to do that because the word of God gives us truths that will liberate us. So what I wanna do, Ness I wanna pray for those who are watching now. I wanna pray that they would receive the freedom in Christ that is theirs because of what he purchased on the cross. And I want you to pray that the Lord would just begin to help guide them. Say someone came to you, you're sitting down, you're counseling them, you're doing a one on one. How would you pray for that person? Would you pray for our viewer like that now? Amen. Well it's such an honor and a privilege to pray over you right now. And I'm declaring freedom upon your life. And I know you've been experiencing this for way too long and God sees your heart. He knows that you are desperate and that you want this healing. And so I wanna pray over you and wherever you're at just lift up your hands. And as you lift up your hands, say God I surrender, I'm gonna stop doing this on my own. I'm gonna be obedient to you. Lord, help me to renew my mind. Let's pray. Father, we just come before you and we thank you. We thank you that you are so good and that you are faithful, that you never leave us nor forsake us. We thank you that you don't reject us. Father, even in this midst of our pain, in the midst of this brokenness, when we feel like we're not enough, when we feel like we're a failure. Lord, you are proud of us. We are your children. You understand what's taking place and I pray for the viewer right now, wherever they're at. I pray that they will begin to be honest with you, that they would no longer try to hide from the pain, but expose it, bring it out and lay it before your feet. Father, we pray that you would father. You would honor those father that are vulnerable and that are coming to you. I pray that you would be sovereign and you would heal the hearts, Father, that you would use your word, they would use your word to transform the way they think. No longer will they think low of themselves. No longer will they believe that they are back into that place, Father, but they would take on their new nature. They would take on, Father, the new creation that they are. Father, we pray for blessings. We pray right now for just a peace of mind. Those that are dealing, Father, with so many different Father voices or different types of just ruminating thoughts, I pray that you would just bring a communist right now, even where they're at as they're seated there watching, that the peace of God would reign over them right now. Father, we love you and we thank you. In Jesus' name, amen. Father, we ask that the Holy Spirit now would begin to bring comfort. Father, in the name of Jesus, let there be a great comforting that takes place now. Holy Spirit, just begin to cause them to know that you're in the room with them. Let them be surrounded by the brilliance of your glory. Thank you, Jesus. That power begin to flow. We pray for those with anxiety, depression, intrusive thoughts. Lord, we lift those who are carrying the pain of past hurts and traumas. And in the mighty name of Jesus, we speak strength and grace. And receive it by saying simply, amen. Well, Vanessa, thank you again for joining us here for this broadcast. How can people get ahold of you because I know they're gonna want to? How do people get ahold of you? Where can they follow you? How do they connect? Well, you can find me on Instagram. I'm not many places, but I'm on Instagram. You can find me at mindfulness underscore. I don't even know what it is. Is it one? It's right there on the screen there for you if you want. There you go. I don't even know my own following. You can follow me there. You can leave me a comment. You can share what the Lord has done. If you felt a heaviness being lifted, I want to hear about that. And I'm blessed by so many of you. And I'm gonna be praying for you. And we are declaring victory over your life today. Make sure you go ahead and give her a follow. And actually let me know in the comment section right now you're watching live or on the replay. This has helped you. If this is blessed, you let me know. 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