 Do kwa stori flani la poslife niya wuchaui kwa knew niya Worki na hakho ya From what we are going to do Reintroduha but Protection kataяла chore sometimes God has made me fearfully and wonderfully signing a kwa na skia we wengine aiko She's so pretty, oh my God And she's so talented I love tena sdi msuilis Nia yaza pika I just scared But it is okay I thought it was a phone Hi How are you? Karibu Sanathet You are so phenomenal And you look like that Thank you Nika ma tu kwa na miskonsetroflani Like if someone is really good at a couple of things Ha fai kwa mrembu Really? So you see you've broken things or broken glass ceilings Then you please do introduce yourself to the audience Okay my name is Melissa Lesilale Also known as Pambo Mel I am a mother of two Hair stylist and makeup artist that created, sorry A commercial model Yeah Sasa skia is over to Zodem Oh and I cook Yeah Miha ponda lini ma Lisa pukwa sdi biryani Oh my God Oh my God Kuna sinjiflani Antiflani alikuna tpikiya Potemia Ramadhani Yaya yaya yaya Tamu? Ki dogo ni change dini If you don't Asilas mawa msuwa ili Asilas mawa Kichu shote Please give me the recipe Do hangu at least wakainga tu randa Ah it's okay Okay all right So you have a lot of things that you are handling right now Maybe if I can ask Is it difficult being a parent and doing all these things Anasana creativity Sometimes the jobs that are very mundane Namika tu The same thing you did yesterday is the same thing you will do tomorrow But you have involves a lot of creativity Is it difficult? So so it depends because there are times actually creating you need like I was telling you earlier like sometimes you're not in the right space to create because maybe you're stressed or you're overworked or something and then now you go to the kids and they need you and they need your attention So you have to put one away But it's all about balancing It's all about balancing and being disciplined and knowing this time for my kids this time for work this you just have to find a balance Yeah Okay all right You guys miss it just now So Just confirm the story I'll tell you how it went How it was How it was going Did I see? Did I see? Did I see? What's your favorite thing about what you do Like for example I do voiceovers I present Okay Muto anipe kazi a radio arakara Anyway And sometimes I model in and out And I like all the forms that I express myself But the one in a penagabsa niku act Like I can be anyone at any one time I can wear what I would Like border to script Miniam baby and I put myself in there It's a wonderful escape for me What's your favorite thing about all your talents? My favorite thing is of course I love the commercial aspect of it because you get to act different people I love the hair aspect of it also because Okay, I'm this person who doesn't like being defined by one word I feel I believe in diversity Like I can be anything I want to be So I have a soft spot for hair because I feel like hair is so people perceive it like I just have slimes and you go but there's so much that comes with it So the fact that I can sit down and create something like I create like from something and that hair will speak what I'm trying to say that I think is so dope for me Yeah Has it been a challenge dealing with African hair? Mimi let me just pass no testimony I never used to like my hair I used to think it was just too big it was so out there like kiniyona the first thing you see is my hair and you already judged me and it was such a big problem for me until I decided you know what it's fine let's just leave it the way it is So nika toa kem kwanza because at some point I think it was compulsory for everyone to have a chemical I don't know why they told us that but now my afro path type situation yeah that type see type Hey you don't even know how do you play around with that because mean is I am kaniyoni juetun ah tu shketu apakatu yeah tu puusi how do you you know how do you see African hair and then play with it how I see it is every hair type can have a hairstyle that's how I look at it and one product help also by the way it's not about just I can be like someone can have hair that actually I cannot manuva around it till it's in a certain state so have to make that hair to be in a certain state for me to be able to manuva around it so of course products help but then the notion of we have to you know maybe do kem or my hair is relaxed by the wind by the very fat that I cannot struggle with I don't like the nature of age yeah yeah but every hair type can be done for something so using the right products also help a lot even managing the hair even me as a stylist to like manuva around it and then also I like taking our like the Africanness that we have I like it's spoken in our hair so like creating even Jasmine like Aladdin you know like that was like an Arab cartoon back in the day to manuelet koko yeah to manuelet koko but I'm like actually we have kinky extensions nowadays you know that can bring the Africanness in it yeah so just I guess just working around it and just being creative and but product actually help yeah what's the difference between a hairdresser and a hair stylist I've been asked that before okay I do both I do from Ganyans to weaving to anything nueli na fanya the difference for me I think is you know someone can actually do very nice kondros on you or a nice weave but tell them to style for a function cannot they just know how to put it up or put it down so that's now the hair stylist is the creative side of hair I think I think don't judge me I think and then the hairdresser is the you know plating the braiding the kondros the what that's why most people they have their hairdressers that they go to every month every week every two weeks but now when it's there wedding day of there's a function they have to go to a stylist yeah because doesn't necessarily mean that when you can't plait hair that you can style it yeah and there are people who do not know how to plait hair but they actually know how to style the hair yeah because I have to balance your face I balance the volume of your hair I see your you know like just actually working with that's why like someone comes and brings me a photo of like I want this and I'm like can we change because it doesn't go with your of course I won't say it that way but I'm like can we try something is like give me three different looks that we can work with so that eventually because eventually I want you to look nice yeah I want a style that matches your face that matches your you know skin type everything you're very diplomatic I imagine I you took it Instagram I want this but the way it will you know yeah okay all right tell me about you being a commercial model before we come back to the hair commercial model yeah do you do it for the hair or for clothes like what exactly is the focus the commercial model part of it is I actually I'm the model in several commercials I've I've done several commercials and at the same time sometimes I get double like I'm the model and I'm the hairstylist of that commercial yeah so kutu yeah so na maliza lafwe unadye kawamushi you just go fix something and then you know go and set yeah and um so it's it's um it's the hairstyling part of it sometimes and it's the me being the model yeah you're not shy at all because it's a kankyu shy shy I tag I laugh as a son I don't know what a footer I'm a pain me hey hey hey we'll see you in the leg kumge kuseli puwa puwa at least at all at least at all kumge at all you talking to accent at lift guys eh people go to America for three days when I read them I heard in my water I I won't go me not kakuswail I'm not scared kusaili guys what is the size is it tofouti say like tanzanima a lot of this doing accent zani kigumu mm oh yeah tanzaneki kigumu moshana kikaya bua kimi and baasa okay tell me about the most exciting venture you've had as a hair stylist I think when I was no, Siniambiala didn't ask one day sure, say ma though he correlated kidogo winning TCB runway show back in twenty nine twenty eighteen twenty eighteen yeah yeah I won the best natural hair stylist in Nairobi yeah so that was something yes and then I had a whisper meaning he called me kusaili kusaili kusaili and I also think one of the there is that and there is having to do my first movie disconnect the movie he did here for the movie at towards the it's really big towards the end of it yeah and then making catatris actually that was like but I love that woman you're a fan yeah yeah so highlights talked to you a little bit on Instagram just a little bit just a little bit and I saw Mdezi make up follows you do you know do you even know do you I don't know what do I know what I think my verify do I am struggling as Valentine to follow people but her she's been followed by verified accounts actually actually forgot the biggest highlight I think it was last year when I was doing here for DSTV like there's an ad for DSTV I laugh the who's and who's are the all Africa came to Kenya to shoot it so I was doing here for all of them and I met Nandia to do here for Nandia I knew it I knew it could have checked it is here for Instagram I know that thing we see Nandia and Jackie Apia you'll actually sound like what what but I need anyway I say everything I by there I'm very spiritual so everything humbles me because I know it's not by my strength I know it's God purely so yeah such moments make me like actually verify me like why even started this like why I'm here yes so so you are here so you are here I'm here I say really what do you want but anyway we say the cake is big enough yeah yeah everyone here very true hum so what does an every day okay no what does a normal day for you look like do you wake up and okay family aside you've taken care of yours your household is running smoothly how does the creative process work do you have to create something every day do you set yourself standards how many per week how do you work around it my normal day to kids and everything I have a salon pambomel studio it's on chebili road not far from where I live so I go there sometimes I'm booked the whole day I do bookings so sometimes I'm booked the whole day so there goes my creativeness but I purpose every week to come up with something whether it's a sketch whether it's something I purpose to do something more so even if I won't be able to do it that week because sometimes I get very busy maybe with you know shoots and everything I have to create time to every week I have to create something that not necessarily mean I will post it every week but I'll work on it towards I'll work towards it like eventually I do something with it but yeah that's my normal all right so we are about to give you a glimpse into ebu konza upa na itonani IG wa kwatu tu say Pambo mail Pambo underscore mail yes support very quickly she is famous guys just want to see on me apa metulia is famous are we together yeah go follow her and check out her amazing awesomeness okay so at the salon you act as a hairdresser and stylist yeah did you always want to be this way like when you were growing up me and your Ndogo I was very conflicted I wanted to make my parents proud but I also wanted to do what I wanted to do so I I spent a lot of time doing things that I thought would make other people happy by the time we learned okay this is what I want to do and you will be fine are you together yeah is that something I always want to do um mili kwa na tega tu kwa kicheza kule fields ona premarevili or kwa prema punishment aili kwa mimi niki sanga matuta kwa nyasti yeah but I was still in school I actually did business management as a cause yeah I did business management um and then I realized na fanyakazi Monday to Friday kwa ofisi evening classes I love Saturday na sanga na fanyakazi kwa salon because I just couldn't not I could not stay away from here I just couldn't so um with the time but I actually got into employment like I was on the corporate world for some several not so many years but maybe three years and then I just after I got my first baby I just decided do you know what I did an ad and then they paid me and I started the salon wow yeah I was like you know what this is it this is my passion this is what I want to do but I didn't want to be like normal like just normal hair I actually wanted to be a testimony of how much hair can take you how far hair can take you actually because my target say in lupitanyongo who hei hui opakanim shiken who who yeah so um because there's this there's this notion that when you do hair it maybe you didn't pass in school like you didn't perform I was just going to say that if you can't DJ DJ DJ the yeah the careers that are they're not perceived as important so I'm like like in ipiau kiyangali uta waonea who who has made it for me at least I had Corin Mudone look up on that icon she follows her also her Corin yeah so for I had to be I just said I want this hair thing to just not be a hair thing like can I go far can someone grow up and maybe has this passion and see if pambu mail did it I can do it or even more yeah so I have to push the buttons I have to go further I respect these people such as yourself who Wally I don't know how to say it's like basically breaking glass ceilings like you said you're going to do and you're going to do and you did and now we all want to be like you now we are telling you I'm sorry I didn't believe in you I'm sorry I didn't think doing hair would get you to wear I mean you have your own salon it's it's you're making a living of it you know covid or not you know people want to look nice covid or not people yes the the gatherings are a bit smaller police to go having weddings and all these things so you're basically essential goods how weirdly women just love looking good so yo ah in fact on that note let us look at some of the women who are looking good on her instagram there we go okay so the the first picture is you yeah I think it's a bit lower like if you go uh-huh the other side you would see mngo cha kwanza ni kuchoche v'n giliuna this picture the the most recent one I was like eh she looks so nice like yes you're beautiful sour but you actually look nice thank you like inside I don't know how I saw it on the ni me but she actually just looks like a nice person and you you look like you make a very very good friend maje yes I wrote yeah you have a vibe yes so as you continue oh my gosh she's so pretty thank you ah what's her name milan she looks like royalty yeah oh wow free model man free model ay ay ay ay ay wait it's necessary what I don't know what's happening on this all over the place so tell me how you created that look on your daughter does it match her personality because she looks kind of fias yeah she is she's a she's a courageous girl that I'll tell you like and then she likes the beauty thing I tried to actually minimize it because you know I'm like you have to study but yeah what inspired me she's my skin just like pearls I know she's not like melanin she's not like melanin I know she's not like melanin but like yeah on something that actually matches her personality yeah she's bubbly she's fias so yeah I did that but one cannot just disappoint she just ay look at her na kuna tu pose she's not even shy at all yeah she's not shy ay mama nani good job thank you kata stay meet but good job thank you ay alright so how long did it ooh just there just kerabit I created just kerabit back in the day yeah actually those are braids the abuja braids what Nikazi, stikna, gam gel gam glue spirit gam yeah spirit gam those are braids that's not a wig that's not most people thought it was a wig it wasn't because if I did a wig then it meant I didn't create yeah they manakia kwa nanyo e liapo she actually she had shaved okay yeah so when you go look at just kerabit I realize most people didn't get the concept of it you have to go to just kerabit back in the day and then now I didn't replica of it ay alright how long did that take how long did creating that take creating that take that took I think an hour an hour for everything may I am waiting to hear a day that does not look easy no also that one that one took whoo who is that that's Grisel so she had dreadlocks so I had to work around the dreadlocks she had and create something african so I wanted her to have the african vibe going on and safety pins safety pins in our pokomo my mum is pokomo so in our pokomo culture I realized so many people use safety pins so I actually wanted to incorporate that like yeah so sir weh okay my heart is just having palpitations woa usha imagine kwa kwa safety pin kwa nyue like guys ever ever ever alright so here we have a group type gathering and I I initially asked you I'm sorry I didn't do this on air but I did ask you if if hair is like music that it has themes and I can tell you can tell yeah I can just tell I can just tell it I can tell what's going on on the red side that has a different kind of vibe I can tell with the dreadlocks and the pins tell me about this the look on this other side the jasmine that was jasmine for my lighting and that's why we had to get pants that look arabic and you know alright yeah I mean hair like when you do hair this is what I tell the even when I'm making brides like show me your gown not cause of anything it's cause I need to know the hair piece we are gonna use is it probably is it okay your hair your dress does it have crystals does it have pearls cause I have to match it with your the personality that comes from the dress I need to match it up with the hair so it's not about you bringing me a style that sometimes you look too much the the you want the hair flowing down your gown is the neck like the neck goes up so you look like too much so I have to see your dress and then now I work around it the hair that's how you know someone is good that's just guys if you need a secret just here in the city that's how you know someone is good they don't just you don't give them something to do they take everything into consideration you know perfect meanwhile kuna mtuakuna kabred flani apam and she's also very brufo and I'd like her to come and say if that's okay with you okay join us sweetie oh it's a court hi a court how are you naskia kuh high five but kovid I just want you to stand right there I first would just do na kava zuri nima we yeah na kava was tell me about what's going on with her hair and it looks so good so very very good so now a court has natural hair so this style can be achieved with braids normal braids but now if I use braids then the texture of her hair and the braid very different the abuja braids very different so I had to look for something that looks a bit afrikan the texture wise and create I actually do not know the name of this just I used earring what these are loops these are so kubwa dile kubwa and then yeah I am so much for you I felt like I could have done more hi abuja I could have done more oh my god abuja first take this mic and tell us how fabulous you feel because you look great how do you feel with that? I feel sure sayoneza kwa empres fulani let me not even lie to you and I won't tell you this because I've had a similar type hairstyle before okay now but sayati evi sex evi but like what to just randomly evi alafwal kaniyongezaka extension but after like a few hours my hair is this kind of black but ingine hikayo type of black so it looks so off so off even from far away yeah how did you how do you even have this eye because it's an eye how? I think it's it's just knowing what you want delivered like right now this year wasn't in like number two her hair is number two you have to know first the hair your hair color so it's just creating an illusion that even if someone sees her from a far or front the difference not too much like the textures are not too far away from each other like I was just trying to work around that yeah how do you feel about it what do you think I feel gorgeous yeah yeah you should and she's here saying she could have done enough how do you feel about that yeah she knows that what's your favorite experience with Pambo now oh she's lovely yeah she's loving and caring and creative and talented one person would be so blessed like you guys are just a lot I aspire to be you guys right now okay do you model for her often yeah was your anytime she has like a hair shoot mostly she I work with her yeah or like closely in your salon or is it either everywhere so you guys are not just partners yeah I see yes yeah that's good just tell me just tell me just tell me how is it working with Pambo now she this bubbly all the time amakuna tawana yeah she no okay no no she's not she a perfectionist yeah she is she sounds a bit but that's again how you know someone is good and ataka ikuwe smart smart if you could describe her in a sentence what would you say kakuna mwakenya okay okay beautiful inside in herbs oh yeah imagine I agree five seconds and I agree I agree with it what's your favorite thing about her describe her in a sentence in a sentence professional beautiful kind very kind yeah thank you I need you guys I've been meaning to shop for new friends now it's time it's time I think I found come come come in come join us yeah hi okay just want just maybe I know this is a bit cliche but I want them to understand that we can be three ladies on a set na akuna mayano ne mwingine webu akuna mayana jaribukum you know kumvuta mwingine chini like we can all live and we can all thrive and we can all be good at what we do yeah it's in there yeah yeah who encourage a girl child first of all girl child who me yeah yeah I encourage a girl yeah okay if if you have something to do I encourage you to to like go for it and work hard towards it to achieve it all right uh before we're going to finish with you encouraging a girl child but before we do that thank you so very much ready for coming nebu tembea viseksi liokitoka guys catch catch the the the outfit too yeah ngekwatu na dj wa light tu giam pigia ke le le it's okay it's all right okay so maybe something that we have not seen is gentlemen on your page do you yeah do guys ama guys don't have things to be done for ngekwatu na shampoo na ebitu eche um I do baby locks I played oh I have two pages there's another one pambu mel pambu underscore mel and underscore studio so there's where I put my work so yeah guys that I played you know from university students that like to look chic bana boyish yeah so I make them and then also guys it's they're not comfortable being posted much why yeah I don't know but yeah wanna scale shy maybe because I tell you you know my pigia wa wakotuivi like okay I just need your head like wakotuivi so I do lines for guys I do dreadlocks for them I do serial stuff no on the other page of pambu mel pambu underscore mel and underscore studio if I wanted to lock my hair would I could I come to you yes please my new best friend hey weak wakotuivi tatoyo virginity annually we need to lock it for the first time yes where we end up if I am I will save are you expensive just asking and no imagine I'm very affordable actually wa wakotuivi netesha why I am that affordable like kuna ygini like that's the first twist yeah kuna ygini like I mel no no you have to hike in your price a bit more and then others feel like it's that much but at least when I tell someone the price cause also I normally give a price that when I go to someone else's salon and I'm told that's the price I need to pay according to the service I will not feel like you've exploited me so I normally have a rate that is also me I'm comfortable mtua kinambiani toe yeah and the hostess also me and the hostess also me and the hostess also me and the hostess also me yeah because even someone can come with maybe a certain service is 1500 and a half and you have a thousand bob and domain is you me and he says then he says go up alafuna te tako kichu changu I'll just tell you okay I know you wanted this but can I add the size a bit so that we meet halfway you'll get the service but we'll meet halfway so yeah who is your client or is it the who who's who of this knife amata Royaka me nichi nasakuja polepolo I don't have like okay my clients are from way back when I had nothing when I was in Pamo Mel when I was just Melissa so they've held my hand they've held my hand properly actually they are normal working people most of my client bills bills like 70% corporate yeah office people that makes sense yeah what do they want actually ni kusama 2 lines are you very simple things very simple things kanyans others actually others like want the creative side of it others just or you are to a kwaendofisi where they are very simple lines funny retouch like very simple things nesenda job na he has to na mkubwa kwa gale you have a lot of money I'm paying you a lot of money see me yeah all right so in conclusion what if someone out there the way you started your business the way you started your because it's a whole career as I said it's your job in your career how would you like to encourage someone who's maybe trying something new but come away to a meshin lo kutugabu whether they go corporate no matter what they do they still just go back to their first love how would you like to encourage them what I like to say is passion I believe passion is the one thing that takes you far in life follow your passion kus no matter how much you run away from it it'll still be knocking at your door so follow your passion do not think about who has made it you might be the first person who will make that passion come to life in a very profound way so just do it and I won't say it's gonna be easy I won't say I won't promise anyone it's gonna be easy kus mihata libe wa salon and I started all over again with a kum so it's not gonna be easy it's not gonna be easy but when you have that vision and when you know in your heart that this is what I want you can overcome anything and it's that moment that you overcome that you realize that like yeah I actually have done it but when you're scared like something small happens you're like ah it's not for me then you'll never you'll never execute it you just so follow your passion and others I'm not saying even talent is passion that's what I say there are people who work in offices and that's their passion like that's their passion like managing a boss you know being a PA to something like that's a passion they have so just do it to your to your do it with excellence yeah when you put everything into it it's gonna repay back it's gonna pay you back today on our social media handles that is at wordveform facebook quite fair for chanon twitter we are asking people when is it when is it okay to give up when have you been beaten by life enough or circumstance or when is it okay to say you know what I'm done I don't think she reached that place but yeah I know we are human we get to those places that you're like you know what I've reached there several times but again you remind yourself why you started in the first place then remind yourself why you started you're gonna make a good decision and a good choice but as long as you have given it you're 100% like 100% 100 over 100% you've tried this it didn't work you tried this you tried like as long as you have tried everything I won't say then you'll give up I won't say that but you shouldn't try this one comes and you feel like it's not working try something else like try even when you read the people who have made it and everything they didn't not just quit when things got hard they you know soldier done how do you nae interview ni kama staki ishe okay how do you deal with burnout because it can be very easy and I guess that's why people want to give up because you you've put and put and put and you feel like you don't have any energy or any strength to give anymore how do you deal with burnout that's actually funny because I keep on complaining to my sister mi mi choka mi choka habis mi choka because now let me do wake up mondays I cook Wednesdays and Fridays and I have to be at the salon and sometimes I have shoots and so my day is crazy normally and then let's kwa kupika Friday aku rokas yusakum na mojad pike na usiku me la la let kupi pripia hitu shachoka and at the same time you're supposed to also have your the salon bit of it not disappear in the process so sometimes you reach your client you're tired but you can't so you I burn out like so many times I'm fatigued so Sunday I have dedicated it I'm not moving an inch Sunday is my day to be a mom to rest I can relate like I don't compromise my Sunday like I have to rest it Sunday I have to whether a client is okay unless kuna zili job zaku kutua boza da la you're like yeah we are doing this you know but but normal clients like they actually respected like yeah Sunday mail doesn't work because it's my only day that I have to sleep as long as I want rest yeah which is normally hard because now we have to be a mom on Sunday but yeah I aspire to you level of greatness not only in what you're doing your career but how you're managing your family like I is and you have a kafrend who can certifiably say that you're wonderful also on the inside so hey thank you Mazi I'm so glad I met you I'm so glad I met both of you thank you for coming thank you for having me wubombia wuki wach watfufu witu poa zufa nika I told you I told you sanastana when the moon I told you we are late all right one more time please give us a social media handle so we can follow okay my think I'll break it down this way for the commercial bit of it what I do commercial modeling so that I get jobs and I use my official page pambo underscore mail and um for work the salon bit of it I use pambo underscore mail underscore studio yeah all right thank you so very much you're welcome thank you for having us naum kinyona niki slena very soon on my instagram also me don't worry doreni me omokanae dunomosh was you watte yes atwetwefo on facebook wwetwefo channel on twitter hashtag it's wind morning please don't go away like I said it's not over until around 10 a.m stay why