 Welcome to WRC-19 here on the last day of the World Radio Communication Conference in Shamashake, Egypt, where I'm very pleased to be joining the studio today by Dr Amar Badawi, who is the chairman of WRC-19 and has been here for the last four weeks, diligently ensuring that spirit of consensus is reached here by all the delegates and that many resolutions are passed. Dr Badawi, welcome to the studio. Thank you all, Max. Now, it's been a few months since we last met in Geneva and a lot of conversations have passed since then. A lot of resolutions have been made now here at the WRC-19. I wanted to ask you what have been your impressions? Has this led up to your expectations and what have been your major challenges throughout this time? Well, I would say I'm quite happy with the outcome of the WRC-19. Things have moved sometimes with some bumps, but I believe at the end that the major issues were resolved. We have some very good results that are making everybody leave Shamashake happy with what they got, and that was my main goal. And my job actually dictates that. And for me, at least, I did not have to spend any nights here, which was nice. I was going to say, you're looking very refreshed for a conference that has lasted for many weeks here. What are some of the major outcomes which you think will be key for the future of radio communications? I think we've got several outcomes for IMT, which is International Mobile Telecommunications, which serves what people usually know as 5G, which is the commercial or common name, which is extremely important for the next phase of communications and telecommunications. 5G will make a big move in this sector. We are going to have new applications. We have Internet of Things, we'll expand. We have artificial intelligence used with 5G will really bring amazing products, amazing applications. Like for example, autonomous cars, autonomous vehicles, I mean, without 5G and artificial intelligence you won't have that product. And then you have intelligent cities without the Internet of Things and 5G serving Internet of Things because the technology will help us use this available spectrum in a more efficient way. This is the key. And that's what WRC is all about. We need to make sure that this limited amount of resource that we have named the spectrum, which in my opinion is the fuel of this industry needs to be used in the most efficient way. So this conference has been working towards that. There were so many agenda items and I may have mentioned in the previous interview that I feel that we had an opportunity this time. New technologies have availed a lot of spectrum bands to both satellite and fixed earth telecommunications. Whether it's be fixed or mobile, satellite have new amazing technologies now that will allow the satellites to serve rural areas at very high speeds, which could bring broadband to everywhere where regular fiber networks cannot go there. And what I liked in this conference is that for the first time I see that the satellite operators or vendors and the mobile operators are starting to see that they complement each other rather than compete with each other. This spirit is very important because this will help both grow and at the end of the day we're looking to provide the consumer the best possible service at the least possible cost. Having this could give us that chance and everywhere. We're trying to reach to the last billion or two who cannot have any broadband or smart phones. We're trying to reach that. This technology is changing how the world thinks, how the world is, you know, hand as education, medicine. We will have wonders with 5G, with the enormous capabilities there. Did you find this harmonious collaboration from the beginning of the conference? Has it been an evolution as people have been conversing here, as they've been negotiating here? I think they have recognized it before coming to the conference. I even heard it from one of the major players there. And to me this was music to my ears because this means that they will accommodate each other rather than try to kill each other. I know that everything is now water under the bridge, but were there any major challenges, any major sticking points that were difficult? We've had like seven issues that were not so resolved until Wednesday. I think six issues were really resolved. The other one was, was there no change? To me no change is that just pushing the ball to the next WRC. Okay. Thank you. Well, I was just about to come on to that. So looking forward, there are a number of issues that are going through for 2023 now. But I mean, I think I presume that's always the case that things are carried over for another four years. But the most important issues were resolved here and that's a very good result. What difference do you think it's made to the region itself to have this enormous conference here? Well, I think it showed that countries like Egypt can really organize and host such a very important and very complex conference. I did not realize the complexity of this conference until I was really the chairman and kind of looking at every place to every committee. I mean, the mechanism, I'm just telling now I was with the RCC group and I said, look, you know, it's like, you know, the conference is like a big machine with gears. I mean, each gear is, you know, you know, turning the following one and it's amazing because at the end of the day, you get a product and it's amazing. I mean, we've had like some documents just given to the documentation committee by midnight on Wednesday and they're here in the final act now. I mean, this is to me, this is amazing in six languages. You have been amazing. I think everybody will agree as chair of this extremely important conference. Thank you so much for joining us in the studio and I'm sure we will catch up with you again at some stage in the near future. OK, thank you very much. Thank you very much indeed. Thank you.