 Splitting Hares, the hairdresser's podcast, featuring Matt Beck, Christina Cavalcanti, Brian Hare, Brea Bolland, Thaddeus Bolland, and Justin Scott. Hey guys, this is Matt Beck from FreeSalonEducation.com, round two. Yep, Splitting Hares, episode 84. Let us know if this sound is good. I hope it's good. How are we doing guys? So, we got Brian Hare with us. Hi. Justin. I'm Matt Beck. We got Christina Cavalcanti over there, and also Thaddeus Bolland. Hello. This was not that's fault. But, we had some sound issues on the first, and we've got that going, so please... Better. Better? Smiley wink face. It's better good. Yeah man, I was going to say this never happens with my gym plans. You got a thumbs up? Okay, so perfection. Megan said perfection. Alright. That's my favorite word. Alright, so we got everything going. So, we were just in Orlando, the premiere Orlando Hares show. I did interviews with other people. I got Donald Scott, which I love sitting down talking to him. He's got so many new products coming out, and we're going to have the Donald Scott products hopefully available on Shop FSC, which I'm really excited about. That'd be awesome. They're also looking for educators, so we may have a contest coming up, which would be fun. And then we saw some cool companies, this 1821 Men's Company, which I thought was pretty cool. They had some different products. They didn't have a huge line, and they're actually trying out. So there's like this contest coming up. It's almost like a, what's that show we watched? Shark Tank. Yeah. So Shark Tank for hairdressers, they're doing it, the PVA is putting it on, I believe. And John Paul is going to be there, John Paul DeGioria, and Mark Cuban. And you're going to pitch your idea to them, and then they could help fund your plan or whatever. So they're going to go do that, the 1821 Company. So make sure you make Mark happy. Yeah. So, yeah, exactly. I'm like, I don't know how well that will go, but we'll see. So we chatted with the Andis crew, which I was really excited about, and they gave us a bunch of free stuff. So Justin and Thad have had a chance to use these just today. And Thad used them yesterday, I believe, as well. So why don't we break down? Thad, do you want to talk about, you've used the Clipper. Yeah, I've used the. So this set is the stylus combo. And the thing that's cool about this is they made it for stylus, which I thought was kind of neat because a lot of stylus are becoming barbers. So it's a little bit more, I want to say this is almost like the Mac of Clippers. I'll say this, I never have used a Clippers yet. I don't know how tight they're going to cut that using, but the first thing I did, which I do with a lot of Clippers, is I do like the thumb test, where I pinch the cutting blade against the guard while it's on to see, you know, how much, how. If it's going to cut your skin or not, like rip your thumb apart and run away with it. No, because those types of Clippers will only make so much power because of the lower end. But I will say I haven't seen anything put out that much power and go and make me put that much force on the cutting blade ever. Okay, I get what you're saying. I feel it might have all of the pros of the Andis name and even more comfortable I feel than a master. Okay. Without any of the cons of the overheating, the motor of a master. I feel that the only downside I think is you can't put a fade blade on this. You can't? I'm not sure. Just by a quick glance, I don't think so because the fade blades work with the double magnets. This is the reason they redesigned it to a single magnet. Okay, so let's talk about the standard Clipper. Yeah. But you can tell it definitely has more, like I just bought a pair of wall designers. They're kind of like, they're a step up the super taper. Yeah, there we go. Right? So that super taper, did you have that mold on? And I didn't even notice. Oh, he's been wearing it all the time. Okay, wait, let's just talk about this. He's getting ready for Joe Dirk too. Yeah, more. This is the sad part about this. Brian actually wears this more than you would think. So him wearing it doesn't even phase me anymore. I just thought it was a normal thing. So I'm looking at him like this is normal, but... No, I still have a shaved head. Okay. So Brian's got long hair. All right. So I thought you were taking it off because you were just finally like... I was adjusting it to be more comfortable for the show. Okay. I feel this is what I need to channel today. All right, cool. But yeah, so Matt, as Justin already pointed out, they definitely seem to be more powerful than the Masters. Okay. They've got a really strong... More powerful than the Masters series? Yeah. They cut through hair like butter. And that's what I'm saying. Like I said, they... They cut it like butter. They had a lot of power just when I was holding it, which I was really surprised about. Yeah. I mean, it feels like a solid tool. So that's pretty exciting. And I like the on and off switch too. Yeah. I like that it's not that weird knump, whatever that is. And it will be joining the wheel. You know what? That's a good question. I should. I agree. I might call in if that was the case. The whole point of me going to these hair shows besides... And Dallas Scott. Right. So the whole point of me going to these hair shows besides interviewing people was to make connections with companies. So I definitely made a PR connection with Andis, and I made a connection with Donald Scott. And so I think we can definitely get them on the wheel. We need some new prizes on the wheel, I think, or additional prizes. On the cups. We need new prizes on the cups. On the cups. Yeah. And we have an official beer pong camera tonight. Yeah. It's a nice shit. Yeah. It's like getting a full shot of the table. You can watch us be horrible because we forget to practice until it's time to do it. Yeah. So then this kit comes with a clipper and then a trimmer as well. Yeah. I was going to say, not only do I like the fact that you seem to get more power, but the actual clipper itself is a little bit smaller. So whether you have large hands or small hands, you're going to be able to get a good grip on it. Yeah. It's a little bit lighter. Yeah. The plastic housing in it, which does not get as hot. Okay. So I think overall, I'm liking these even more than I like my masters, which I really enjoyed my masters. Someone's going for the educator job. I know. Look at that. That was with Donald Scott. I don't know. I don't think Andis is looking for educators. Yeah. I don't think they... I mean, I'm sure they are. Yeah. They need three of us. Now this tealiner was what I was excited about when I was talking to them because I love my wall reflection. I love your wall reflection. Yes. The reason I love it, and I have the tealiner from Andis. Mind you, I'm an Andis tealiner guy. I grew up buying with me when you bought five. And I bought five of them for every station in the salon. We only have four stations. Right. That's how much you liked it. That's how much I liked it. But this is the thing. The teeth on this are wider. And that's why I like the wall reflections tealiner, I believe, because of the fact that it has a little bit wider teeth, so it sucks more hair in. I like that, but I feel the motor on the wall is just a lot more powerful than this. You're right. I feel like... But what do you feel like when you use this? When I used those, I feel because they're brand new. They were solid. I used them twice. Okay. I love them. I mean, I could use those into a nice clean hard part right out of the box where I couldn't do that with the set I have. Okay. I mean, your reflections, you could. Right. Not with the other set. But these, I feel... The whole combo set, this is if you are looking to do any type of men's hair or any type of clipper and bidis. Okay. Bidis and a heartbeat. Yeah. These trimmers cut through hair a lot easier. You're going to be able to take a good about more bulk with these ones than with the other tealines. And it was a good price on this, right, Sam? Yeah. I want to say that the stylus combo was 90. Oh, that's awesome. Okay. And you get both. And you get clipper guards. Yeah. You get the clippers. You get the trimmers. The clipper guards and trimmer guards and the oil. Oh, wow. The trimmer guards, too. Which I wouldn't... Yeah. I've never used the trimmer guards. Question for you, though, Sam. How tight have you taken this? I took John down to a high zero. A high zero or a no guard? High zero. Okay. With the zero guard. And how did you feel that compared to your masters? Honestly, like the levels in between, they work even smoother. Okay. Like, it's amazing. Like, I've cut John's hair with the masters, as well as with these. And they're amazing. Because I want to do a solid, like, full weekend of these without taking them apart at all. I just want to take them right out of the box and use them to see how it works. Yeah. We're definitely going to do that, and then we're going to film a review of them. So... And I was actually noticing that with my four guard, that it seems like it's a little bit tighter. What do you mean, tighter? Like, I think the rips there tighter? No, no, no. I think that the blade itself is a little bit shorter than the master's regular blade. Okay. The box doesn't say it is. Like, it goes to a zero to a triple zero. But to me, it felt like... I don't think that it might be shorter. I think that the cutting blade could also be bigger, too. That could be it. Well... I'm going to take them all apart and figure it out. I'll let you know. The reason why I say this is that my last client of the day, I'm probably most familiar with his head from the people who I've used these clippers on. And the four definitely took him shorter. Okay. I mean, it wasn't considerably shorter, but it was definitely enough to notice. Because this is how I know I'm not a barber, because when they start talking like this, I'm like, really? The four guard is like... Oh, yeah. No. All right. I mean, a four guard is a four guard. It's like that long to me. You know what I mean? I like... Like, it's probably... It can't be that different. Oh, no. It can. I've used some. Like, the difference between metal guards versus plastic. This plastic is totally different. Well, the metal guards aren't metal. They're not guards. They're actually blades. Well, right. Matt, anytime I have a client come in and... Exactly. And then they say that they usually get like a three guard. I'll start them with like a four low, just because there is like a difference between everybody's clippers. But not even that. Think about this. Think if you grab your wall two plastic guard and you grab your andis two plastic guard and they're both open, they're two different lengths. Well, no, I know that. That's what I'm saying, though. And especially even with these, I feel that depending on how... You know how I take all mine apart once a week. How I adjust the cutting blade to the actual metal guard is going to determine the length of my plastic guards. Right. So that's also probably plays a huge part in it. All right. Well, let's make videos on that. I'm excited. Let's do it. Heck yeah. All right. Cool. So this is really cool. I'm excited about that. You know, it would be cool to have these on the store, but I don't know how... I'm not sure. But we'll definitely try to get them on the... the pong cups. Well, while we're talking on the Barbary Boy stuff, are we opening this stuff? Yeah. Yeah. Well, we can open it up. I want you guys to check it out. They had... They had palmades there and different stuff. They just happened to give us this. What's that? So there's a perfume. A perfume? I say that's... You know, it's old school. Can I open this one? Yeah, you can open it. Is it a perfume or a cologne? You just... I think it's already open. It says perfume. It says perfume. I read somewhere that we were like the only country that actually differentiates between men's and women's smells. Right. I mean, these guys were definitely... We have people from... Wait, we have people from all around the world. Is that true? Dude, do they just sell smells and you wear it if you like it? Yeah. Yeah. I like the perfume. I like this. I don't really like that. It doesn't smell too... It smells too masculine, but it feels... Oh my God, I love that. Told you. Is there a man's way? Can I have this? No! You're not going to wear it. He is. Can we just keep it? Christina liked it. I'm totally wearing it. Let me see. Me too. Yeah. Let me smell. Actually, this smells a lot like what I actually wear. But like... No, it doesn't. Yours is a little fruitier. Like it's in the scent. No, no, no. Not that one. The one that I recently switched to right when I quit smoking. Brute. Yeah. He went with brute. Yeah. I'm wearing Dracar noir now. No, I'm not. Nobody said that. No, you all put that on. It's fine. They're all bathing in it. It's going to be so gross. All right. All right. See, now that I've smelled that, this is like, okay. See, I'm excited about that. Yeah, I don't like that. Did I get your drink? It's okay. Sorry. You know what this reminds me of? Hold on. It reminds me of the scratchiness. Wow, that's strong. That's really strong. I was going to say I smelled it. Okay. On that, does not taste good. So there's scent. Just a little note, people. It smells good. Don't taste it. All right. All right. So the scent of it is sweet tobacco, which, I mean, it's good stuff. I like something called sweet tobacco. So let's just use it to make the salons. I'm going to spray a little bit of the Donald Scott. No, don't do that. Towards the cameras. They were going to start smelling like the Yankee candle shop with all the scents going on. I'm going to get a headache right now. I know. Can we just use that to make the salons smell good? You said that. You're just going to put it on anyway. Let's spray the wall. Let's do this later. All right. So we have... Whatever. Let's get into industry news. Dad, do you have that ready to go? Industry news. All right. Let's do that. My set. And now, now, air industry news from Justin Scott. This guy. We got some stuff to talk about tonight. What's the first photo? So exciting. So we have... What's the first photo, Chris? Because I can't see anymore. Put one of those photos on. Yeah, those three photos. What's the first one? Whichever one you want to talk about. Just pick one. You pick one and I'll go from there. Because he has more stories. So I don't know what exactly they are. Okay. Give me a brief police description. Let's do the Vidal Sassoon one. Okay. Would you Sassoon? Yeah. Put up Sassoon's lovely, lovely face. I don't know if any of you have seen this article. But in Europe, the $20 Europe note, or the Euro, they're looking to do like a new face for it. Sorry. They're looking to do a new face on the $20 Euro. And hairdressers are campaigning to put the late great Vidal Sassoon on there. Yeah, which is cool. It's really cool. I mean, I think it's pretty rad. He dealt with, I'm sure, a ton of people over there, you know, in the government. Had a huge impact on the country. Yeah. On the world. So I think that'd be fitting. Who's he up against? That, I don't know that. No. Because it's like, if it comes down to like Vidal Sassoon or former kings of England and Spain and all that, like, I want to know what his competition is. I don't think we know anything about this. But I do think it's cool. I'm bringing you ideas. Yeah, go Google this if you want the real news. There's a petition being placed around by hairdressers and people out there for it. It didn't really say who else was being thrown out there. Just that Vidal Sassoon was kind of thrown in the mix. That's cool. Yeah, it's very cool. Yeah. I mean, think about it. Hairdresser being on, right? Currency. Yeah, pretty cool. On the 20, no less. What's the 20 euro over here? Isn't that like $30 here? No, no, it's like $10 here. Depends on when this video comes out. No, euros. Euros are worth more than us now. Yeah. Like a $1.50 to our buck. I don't remember. Yeah, okay. Let's go to the next one. It's English pound, not euro. Really? Yeah, Justin. That's what Sean C is letting us do. I mean, there's a difference. So is it going up for the English or the euro, I think? That's probably the English. I'm assuming the euro or the English. The English pound. Let's go with the English pound. They're American. They have an excuse Sean. Life out loud. We don't know anything. I don't know any of your... Nope. We know how to color and cut hair. I don't even know who's on our 20. Yeah. Jackson. Okay. What's the next picture? So I'm not sure what that picture is. I'm sure she doesn't either. It's like a black thing. Okay. The black thing. Put up that weird black thing. The offensive pencil sharpener looking thing. Yeah. This thing is really strange. It's called the Bali Roo. What is it? It's kind of like... Someone trying to take the artistry out of Bali. Pretty much. Oh, damn. I thought this was a sharpener. Yeah. I watched a commercial on YouTube. One of the many hairdressing websites put it up a story on her. And it pretty much kind of thumbs down Balayage. Okay. But I feel that it's just going to make more home braids than anything else. Do they sell a box of balayage? It's literally like a box. Not even a box. It's a mitt. And you slide it down. No. It's a mitt. It's like an oven mitt. It's literally like one of those... Not the picture of the thing you have. Not that it's on the... Bali Roo that we watched. No. That was like a little box that you paint in it. And then you put the hair and then pull the whole box. No. It was like a weird... It's two triangles. Okay. And you put the hair in the middle. And it closes like this. And you paint the lightener inside of it. And you close it and slide it down the hair. But she's like... She's saying how... Oh, well you don't have time to do these hours on your guests. But she's sitting there. And she's weaving... She's weaving hair to then put it in a balayage faker. Which if... Like in reality... But the thing is... Is she then refilling it with... Yeah. She's painting more balayage. Tiny piece and pull. You're doing more work. Yeah. I mean it's... Get it. It sounds like somebody... Because it doesn't look hand-painted. Well, first of all, they... In the video that we watched... And I watched another video because... Of course behind the camera... Right. During the Orlando show... There's no after-pictures anywhere. Yeah, no. So they're not even sitting here saying that it's... Look at the beautiful hair it can create. They're just saying, Look, it's easy. Watch me pull out five hairs. I'm literally doing one weave that you would put in a foil. Close this and pull it. And I can do a whole balayage in 15 minutes. No, you're not. Because it's not a balayage. You're making more work for yourself. So based off of how YouTube described this... This sounds like the person who created it... Hasn't actually done balayage. No. Probably not. Or seen balayage. Well, I'm sure they have. She's probably seen a tutorial on YouTube for it. Everybody's trying to come up with their own thing. Which is fine. I mean push it. But obviously I don't think that this is a... Call it something else. Call it a highlighting box. Because for somebody who doesn't know... I mean that's not a balayage thing. Well, definitely balayage is the... Of it. Isn't it like free painting? Swiping. Sweeping. I'm sorry. You're not sweeping like this. You're clamping. Swiping or no swiping? What is the French word for clamp? We'll call it the clamperoo. The clamperoo? Well, it's called the balleroo. Come get blonde in my box. It's called the weave buff. That doesn't sound right. It's a weave buff. Yeah, so I just thought that was interesting and terrible at the same time. Alright. Let's go to the last photo. This I thought was really awesome. But I feel like it's kind of late in the game to introduce this. It is a freestyle system like we use here. But it's vapor free and it's ventilated. Vapor... What does that even mean? They do our blow dryers produce vapors. He's reading the news. They're waiting with bed and breath. They're still excited for your news. Okay. Enough. Okay. I'll finish the story then question me. It's ventilated. I know it means it takes air away or pushes air. Which I'm assuming is this is made for when you do... When you do keratin treatments. And you have all those really gross fumes coming out of there. Which is like 10 years too late. They should have done it back in the day when you used to smoke in barber shops. Yeah, or that. That would have been great. Yeah, because they still do it. They really got their drop guards and whiskey and bourbon. Right. Well, yeah. So they do that and what else do they do? Anything else? Well, it's got really... It's apparently got like really great LEDs to it. Like really nice lights. It's got goats. Yeah, it's got those. Oh God, I looked at it. Why did you look into it? I just didn't. I don't know. I looked at that one. Yeah, no. I thought it was really cool. But I think it's just... It's a little too late in the game for this. Because how many times do you actually see people doing those... Come on. Don't you remember when he swung like a wrecking ball? No. Sean says he's never seen it in England. So here you go. A freestyle? I've seen it on your screen. Do we have like a good camera? I don't think we have because we took the one out of that. Hold on. Is he the one who made the joke about... It's coming out of the ceiling. There you go. Stand up, Brian Jones. For who just asked, this one is made by the Freestyle System. That's the company who makes it. Yeah, so they make everything. Yeah. So it is those LEDs and everything. Up here. It's behind Thad's pad right there. Thad. Right there. Yeah, there's no blow dryer on that one. I mean... Well, they get the idea. Yeah. That's the bomb. Yeah, so not happening so far, guys. We'll take our dryers apart for this thing. Yeah. We take the whole shop for the pong table. Yeah. All right. Come on now. And the last one I got was some quick exercises. It's funny because when we were going through the intro and redoing it all, somebody said that Thad and I should do an exercise video for hairdressers about how to exercise throughout the day. Okay. And these are six exercises due throughout the day as hairdressers. They read my freaking mind. Yeah. Yeah, you don't have a picture for this. Is this like your yoga bell? That's going to involve cardio and stretching. There's no pictures. This is on video. Ready, Thad? Yeah, Thad. Now you're going to do... One and two. I'm going to explain it. You're going to try, okay? The camera back up. Come on, back up, Thad. The first one is going to be breathing. Go ahead, Thad. Rest your right palm on your chest and your left palm on your stomach. Slowly inhale, focusing your breath throughout your whole stomach, keeping your chest still. Repeat three times. That's the lame as such. Justin, that's the opposite of what the gym wants us to do. Don't listen to this. All right. Head stretching. You know. Okay. Inhale. People want visuals. Thad, come on. It's all you. This is your article. Come on, Thad. Come on, Thad. Be a team player. It's Justin. Stand up. Exhale, lower your chin. Okay. Ready, Thad? That's going to be head stretching. I wouldn't help it. I'm breathing. Head stretching. Head stretching, okay? Okay. Inhale as you look up. Exhale as you lower your chin towards your chest, stretching your upper part of your neck. And then those... And then inhale as you bring your head to the center with your mouth closed. And exhale as you lower your ear towards your shoulder on the same side. Repeat three times on each side. Okay. Your next one, number three. I feel like I'm in kindergarten like PE. You're okay. All right. Next one. Next is fun. Thad. This isn't giving me any gains. Spine and shoulder stretching. You're losing weight right now. Sit on a chair. This is the opposite of what the gym wants us to do. Sit on a stool. Okay. You guys, you just told me to stand up. Sit on the Minerva Beauty. This is too much cardio. Beautiful stool. Spread your knees without lifting your feet. Just saying that to Thad makes me laugh. What is he helping? Shut up and do it. Exhale as you lean forward, dropping your head between your knees. I don't think we're doing what the... Who wrote this article? And now kiss your ass goodbye. I think Justin wrote this list. Lower your... Slow news week on modern, I guess. All right. The last two are an upper body stretch. Exercising wrists and finger stretching. Thad, Wisconsin. Don't want you to do it with your shirt off. Do it with your shirt off, Thad. The last one, Thad. The last one. Feet lift and ankle rotation. Bend over and grab your ankles, Thad. Throw your ankles over your neck, Thad. Thad, up on the color bar. Up on the color bar. Here, I can follow you with it. All right. Thank you for that, Justin. It won't be effective. 50 shades of Thad is what someone just said. Nice. All right. Thank you for the news. Take it off. Show your guns, Thad. Come on. I'm in a tank top. At least take your shirt off. I'll pass. Yeah. Somebody's going to the gym more. So I do want to talk about the millennium experience coming up in a couple of weeks. I did... I was obviously hanging out with millennium in Orlando. But I got to see Michelle from Demand Force. So... But we're going to do... The cool thing about the millennium experience is we're going to have a booth actually set up, a 10 by 10 booth. And we're going to be broadcasting live. Are we all going? The whole event. No. But we will figure out how to make more people go next year to things. But we... Because I was told a million times in Orlando, there was... One of your names was brought up at least one time every time somebody came up. So it was almost like they were disappointed to meet me. They would rather meet everyone else. Well, that's the audience. But the people hiring you is for this. And you're the one that does all that. No, I know. I know that. Man, it's great to see you, but we wanted to see Christina. Yeah. Pretty much. That's actually what everybody asked for. Justin or Brian or anything. No, I'm pretty sure it wasn't me. But we're going to work on figuring things out for next year. So the millennium experience is coming up. We're going to broadcast live some of the event, but we're going to be doing live interviews. Maybe they'll hire you to do this with everyone. I know. That's what I'm saying. Can you come and set up yourself to talk to other people? Well, next... I know. Not about you or your... Right. Well, next year... So I've talked to Gordon Miller, who is with American Salon at this point. And I love American Salon. We talked about that. And I would love to somehow work with them on trying to... We could all podcast, but have other artists come and sit in and just have a good time doing it. And do it live. That's the whole goal of this whole thing. Because if you can broadcast live from a hair show, it's fun. The energy is always super fun. We'll see what happens in the future. There's so many things. It's something new every week. So we're working on it. I lost my pen. So I have this paper that I'm just playing with this whole time. For no reason. There's nothing even on it. I know. I just keep... I just keep... So that's the news. I had a pen that went so I could write things. All right. That is that. We went over that. Just want to throw it out there. What? I have two days ago. What? Industry online. Oh, yeah. Okay. Industry online industry with an IE. Online Tabitha's new adventure. Internet takeover. Apparently it's got a lot of good... I haven't really been able to... Look, he grabbed two. Because he knew I would... Look at that. Oh, gosh. Catches like he throws. So... See, that's much more. That's much better. So did you go on there? I haven't. I'm going to do it right now, actually. It's another news. Megan Sullivan just said... Yeah, she just reminded me. I mentioned it. Oh, okay. Interesting. Good information. But the point system makes me feel spammy. Okay. That's interesting. I know that DJ, I saw him post that he was going to be... on there. DJ Maldoon. I think she's going to keep getting people. I haven't been on there either. I forgot that it was launching. I was like... Every week I was talking about it, too. Yeah. It's been a very busy week. We let up to it, but there we go. So we'll definitely check it out. You guys check it out. I'd love to know the ins and outs. I'm sure Tabitha would like to hear it as well. I mean, just hopping on here right now. It looks like it's a really cool layout to it. Okay. Is it anything like it was before it launched? Is it... Have a lot of information right when you open it up? Right. You open it up. There's articles and pictures and things telling you, like, hey, you wanted this, you wanted that. Okay. So check it out. So next week we'll get more information on it. Hopefully we can get Tabitha back on right for something. What's that? Christina just saw that my brother is watching, and he's asking for a birthday shout out. Happy birthday. Is it Daniel's birthday? It was days ago. So him and Vanessa and your mom all have birthdays around. I didn't see that. Yeah, Vanessa's the 30th. My brother's the first. My mom is the second. Today's my Aunt Carolyn. Oh. Happy birthday, hairs. Are you guys telling me that this whole birthday season thing isn't just Brian? They're not hairs. It's a family thing? It's a hair thing. Happy birthday, Daniel. Happy birthday, bud. Happy birthday, Annie. You should say it. I called you. Amy, bud. I called you. Happy birthday, Daniel. I tried calling, but apparently I had the wrong number. All right. So let's get into, we got some social stuff. Yes. All right. So FSE social, let's fire it up. What's happening on FSE social media? FSE social media? Submit your questions to Brian Hare on our Facebook community or by using the hashtag Free Salon Education. So real quick, make sure if you guys want to call in some questions right now, you can call 844- I was going to handle that. FSE live. You were saying to me- I just asked you, do you have the phone? I don't. I don't. That's in control. Oh, geez. He's going to answer it with fart noises. I'm no longer dealing with any of that. He actually downloaded like a radio soundboard while we were sitting here. That's going to answer it. So, but yeah, it's over there. I'm going to answer it with bro. Do you even FSE questions? Okay. So 844- FSE live. FSE live. I want to ask the question that I put online today if anybody wants to call. No. And like say, yeah, you know what the question earlier was because we'll chat about it and see if you want to get all up in this as well. I just asked a question that I- I think it's a good question because there's no wrong answer I feel. And it's something that I've come across the ups and downs and the many different salons and scenarios that I've worked at. And it was just the question I wanted to chat about blow-dries. What etiquette do you follow and why? Does it come with a color- separate charge? Okay. That's a good question. Because I've- scenarios where it comes with a color service. I've been in scenarios where it does not. I've had very heated conversations with hairdressers about whether to charge separately for a blow-dry when it comes to color. So I thought it was a good topic to put out there for people. Okay. So I guess I'll hit on that before I go into some of the other stuff. Right off the bat, one of our followers, Patricia said the company that she works for, it's included with a chemical service in this price accordingly. The only way to really check the color and show off professional work is a polished blow-dry. It really helps the client walk out feeling great and encourages product sales. By making it all a cart with a chemical service, it seems more optional. I do agree. Like I said, there's pros and cons to this. So long as you can justify why, I'm just kind of curious what your reasons for doing it. Because like I said, I've done both. Right. And I think where I'm at right now, just me personally, the kind of service that I like to provide, I prefer it being a part of the chemical service, being a part of the price. I used to do it where it was its own thing, and yes, when you look at it, it means that now you're valuing every single second that you spend with them a little bit more and saying that I don't know, it can pump up your paycheck, but I feel like it definitely watered down the service I was providing. Because, you know, it was almost like a thank you. Like doing the blow-dry is like a thank you for doing it. Charging for blow-dries, the options were going with somebody else for, you know, go like sit with an assistant and let your hair blow-dry or leave wet. And I feel like that's when I started to really just crank people out and I lost that service, like that one-on-one connection with people. Right. So just me personally, I'm glad that now I kind of have to. Right. I mean, there are people that they understand they got to run, I squeeze them in, they leave with a wet ponytail. That's the whole thing. Do you feel like, so you felt like you made more money doing that? Well, because I... Because wasn't your color price cheaper because you didn't blow-dry or it wasn't? The price stayed the same. Okay. I just didn't, they didn't get a blow-dry. As an owner, I would think that that wouldn't be the case. You know, like your color price would be cheaper and then your blow-dry would be affordable. Like the color price was still that. Yeah. And then if you wanted to get a blow-dry. Right. So the way that I sold it to my guests was you can either leave wet or get a haircut when you get your hair cut. Right. Because it comes with a haircut because you have to blow it dry. Was that the only salon, the one salon? Was that the only salon you worked in that was like that? A couple or at least one other person just mentioned that it was the same way. I don't know her name. Megan said that it's only with the haircut, I think. Yeah. Not with the color? Yeah. I know there's a lot of salons that do it. I don't... I agree with the you should see it before the leave. Don't you think a lot of people probably leave, sorry not to cut you off, but when your hair is finished and polished and looking like that, so many more people probably comment and ask where you get your hair done too. Right. And that was always a huge argument with like you should never send somebody out of the salon looking like a wet dog. Right. And I mean, of course there are extenuating circumstances and like... Yeah, we have some people that... Put this on my hair and I literally have to go pick up my kids. That's one thing, but like on a regular base you shouldn't have half your clients leaving. Some women actually, after they get their hair done and blown out and finished, they make it a plan to actually go somewhere else if somebody sees it. Right. Like honestly, like they're like, oh my gosh, I have to go out now. They make plans afterwards. Yeah. I agree. Well, yeah, that would definitely be my thought. It's someone else say where I work you get a complimentary blast dry, which is just like a quick 10 to 15 minute dry. We're not a lot of stylists involved, but they still look nice enough to walk out of the salon or they can pay a discounted blow dry price if they get a complimentary service with round brush or curls. Okay. There's a lot of interesting stuff. Mickey Bullock, he charges separate. He says it's kind of like going to the mechanics. There are parts and then there's labor. Color is the part in the application and the blow out is the labor depending on the clearance, hair type, length and density. Yeah, but there's labor in doing color. But our prices might be more... We don't know, you know, price for... We have to see how that really works out. Mickey has a successful salon. Yeah. I don't know, I know. And like I said, I had... But our color prices are not... They're pretty expensive to kind of roll that whole into that. Right, yeah. I would be interested to know, like I know like the area that Mickey's salon is in sort of. So I would be willing to bet like at least if I were to be asked. I'm guessing not many of his clients sleep with a wet head though. Right. Well, like I said, in my old salon there wasn't really an issue. Nobody left with wet hair. It was just they would go to an assistant for a free blow dry. It might not be like the $25, $30. Oh, the assistants did free blow drys? I didn't do that. Oh, okay. Well, that's a whole different. It was a free blow dry with an assistant and that's where I said, I felt like it started to... I was provided. Like I wasn't having that. Definitely does, but it's a smart move. I wasn't giving them a reason. It was a smart move for my paycheck. But that's... And result the way that you want it. Well, that and guess what? Those assistants are going to eventually become stylists. Right. And now they see them just as often as they see me. Right. So all it takes is one too bad of a hangover. I don't go to work. And you know what? I've been seeing so and so for the past two years anyway. So... Right. Now I... There goes my client. Yup. I knew a stylist while I was in Maryland who he worked at a salon where they charged for the blow dry like for cuts or colors. But they also had a tool station set up to sample all the tools that they sold. That if they style their hair themselves they could go over and use the products and use the tools and... See, I don't... I've seen stuff like that and that just looks so cheesy. Yeah, I don't like that. It's not professional. Like they should have their hair finished and then they can go check it out. You know, like they want to try a little curl in their hair or something like that. But you can't... I don't agree personally with... I thought it was a liability issue. Right. Why are you coming... going to a salon to then finish your... Do your... That's true. Right. Yeah. Yeah. I fall asleep. Blow drys are the best for women. Is that one question? Yeah. They really like... They zone out. Well, it's because you have all the... It's about having some pressure points in the head and... Yeah, so... Yeah, so relaxing. Yeah. So, I think we have a question. Say it into the mic. Yeah. Oh, I don't know. Don't whisper into the mic. I have to find it. Bear with me. My brother... I met someone like Vanessa with super long thick hair and I just commented back that she's really lucky. She's got a brother that's a hairdresser because he doesn't make enough money for what it would cost. She does have a lot of hair. Okay. So, Kristen Collins... I already have blow dry. Kristen Collins had a question for you. Actual salon question. How would you handle an older stylist challenging your color formulas, chemical services, chemical service times and all that in front of other clients other than using my razor on her nose? Well, I like her ending to that because that's how I would finish it. What? Co-workers giving her shit for what? Co-workers? The timing or the price? Well, her services in general, like the timing of her colors and her chemical services. I wouldn't say anything... Shut up, Noah. Shut up. While that situation is going on because that's just going to make it worse and make it more uncomfortable for the client. Right. But, you know... I like then... I like I miss this. What is it? She works in a corporate salon. Okay. A really good one. But they charge... Oh, I'm sorry. I know some topics, but somebody in her salon, an older stylist, I'm assuming age-wise, is challenging and questioning her color service and her chemical service timings, I'm guessing. In front of the guest, not in the back room, like calling her out on what she's doing, whether it's right, wrong, or indifferent, it's probably not what the older stylist is doing, so it's wrong. How would we handle that? I would take her in the back room after it's over and I would say to her... Minor... No, I would take... I would be more professional than she is. Oh, of course. You know, I would say, you know, it's very unprofessional for you to talk in front of my client and if you have something... Appreciate constructive criticism. Yeah. But please don't do it in front of... You shouldn't do that in front of us. It's not professional whatsoever. I would have, like the manager or the owner, like if it's a corporate salon and the manager with you, like during that conversation, so it doesn't become a he says she says. Yeah, of course. That's how I want to handle the whole situation. Yeah. That's how you guys handle things around here. I agree with that too, but it would be the same eight in, like, you know, as a seven year old, like you don't have to run until the teacher every... But you need to talk to somebody that's bothering you. You know, just have the conversation with them and I think it's the same way. If that doesn't solve the problem and she keeps doing it, then go... Yeah, apparently it's her assistant manager and it's questioning her formulas. Well, then you need to find a different salon to work in. Yeah, I mean, it's all the... I personally think it's all about how you hold yourself too. I've never worked in a salon where it hadn't either been, like, they were just crazy. Like, I don't think anybody's going to approach me and question what I'm doing in front of my guests. Right. You know, like, I'm nuts. Well... Well, that's not all so great to be either. No. I'm not saying I'm not crazy to the point where everybody thinks I'm going to lose my mind if you question me. I mean, you're not going to question me out in front of my guest and try to embarrass me and make yourself look better for whatever reason like if you just hold your back a little straighter and you're more confident in your work that even if someone questions you, oh, no, I have it. It's going to be fine. She'll make that clear right in front of the guest and there's nothing for them to worry about. Then in the back, you tell them to shut the hell up. And whatever way you want to shut the hell up. And whatever manner you want to say it. Well, I just told you to do that. You want to chat with them. But I'm saying, though, like, just quick and easy. Well, no, we've had actually that happen. Hey, man, we actually forgot to run the disclaimer. We talked to each other. No, remember? I'm not going to say the names of which they were, but they both do not work here anymore because it just couldn't work out. And it was a shame because one left because of the other kind of bullying a little bit, if you might say. Yeah, it's an unfortunate situation and that is not an environment that you want to be in. No, not at all. It's not an environment that if she's the assistant manager, then I would find the manager or the owner to make sure that does get taken care of. If you can. I wonder if the manager is like that because you have to learn from example a lot of the time. But it sounds like she might just be an older stylist who thinks they know what they're doing and when it comes to everything. You know how those people are set in their old ways that nothing that's ever changed can be correct. But I think the best way to handle it is to ask, well, what do you think would make my timing better? What do you think that I'm doing that I shouldn't be doing because you've been doing hair forever? Hair at the beginning of doing hair. I mean, since your client was Moses, how would you do this? Exactly. So just definitely start and work that way. Be professional about it. Of course. If it doesn't work out, then I would go somewhere else. My biggest concern would be how I feel. Be how my guest feels. That's the first thing I would think of is reassuring my guest she'll be fine when they leave my chair. Yeah. All right. What else? Did nobody call? Nobody called? Why do you guys call? Maybe she's just jealous. I like that we had some conversation on the chat. Some people I think are uncomfortable. Yeah, the phones have been flashing the same messages. I think the ringer's off. Yeah, it says the ringer's off. Probably is. I unhooked everything and hooked it back up today, so we'll see if it even works. Well, the ringer is off, but I'm assuming that the number is still going to pop up, right? It'll pop up, yeah, and say somebody's calling. All right. Somebody posted on freestyleneducation.com. They just wanted someone in case they have to contact you for a contest or any other reason. I know that you say it when we have a contest, but what if someone just wants to say, hey, what's up, Matt? So any contest is contest at freestyleneducation.com, and my email is Matt at freestyleneducation.com. Delicious. So I would say, you know, I need to come up with like an FSE kind of question email address. So it goes, you know, it goes out. So we're going to have tomorrow. I know. We're going to have, we're all going to have FSE domain emails. So we'll work on that because that'll be easier to filter it out. That's why I did the contest one because then I can just look at the contest and I know it's all contest people. So. How are you the direct message on the Instagram? Yeah, there you go. Instagram, I have no idea how to direct the message. I feel like I've gotten some and didn't know it for like two weeks. Don't do that. Oh, whoops. On the Freestyle on Education Facebook or email is fine. And that is that. I thought that that worked just like text messaging as far as the notifications. So I apologize for that guys. Now it'll pop up like actually sometimes like I'll go to read one it'll say I have a notification and then it says like I have old ones that I deleted or that have been deleted for months ago. You are cracking me up right now because I just realized that you have the Minerva tray with the mic like he doesn't have room but I don't want to leave forks. I didn't grab a pillow. I'm like, why do you need an end table? He's taking an advantage. You know what I said? I'm like, Matt's not going to want that there. And he goes, we'll see if he notices. And he just did. And as she said that I was like, let me drop it down. Oh, you did? Table level. Well, thank God. I mean that thing that's Minerva is. I actually wanted to review that. Here's the review. It's awesome. Yeah, it works well for everything. It's very versatile. I have a good question on social that I want to hit. And I think that after I answer it you can probably help me out. Okay. Megan Sullivan says I want to become an educator but I'm only three years into my career and I'm afraid people will look at me like I'm a child. What is your best advice for educating? Well, that was my issue when I graduated school and I wanted to become an educator with Paul Mitchell right off the bat. I wanted to join the team and it was at that time it was like a very boys clubby local team and they were very much against the idea. Lucky for me corporate took over and had an open audition and I kicked the audition's ass because I wanted to be one and I knew my stuff. So they had to let me on the team and where was this? The New Jersey. The team I worked on? Yeah. Matt was actually hitting me I don't know what I'm trying. What was it? I was not welcomed with open arms. So what? Explain. When I was joined. Okay. Because the initial thing was when I had shown interest in joining it was still locally decided upon and they had their own rules for how long you had to be a hairdresser and all that. Okay. And then luckily almost immediately corporate took it over and said all you gotta do is get through this audition and do a good job. Right. And so because I knew my stuff would present well I was welcomed on to the team by corporate but not the local and you just persevere and you sit there and people are gonna look at you like you're a child because there's always gonna be people that have been doing it longer and You are a child. You know what I mean? Like you are young in the industry and you should But that doesn't mean that you can't do the job. I think the greatest analogy that I heard You should do the job. Right. You should do the job but the greatest I'm sorry the greatest thing that I I'm gonna put it back out there right now for Megan There was somebody quite senior to me on the team who was just pissed that I was there and decided to call me out in front of the whole team about not deserving to be there and he was told you know what when it comes to sports you don't keep a rookie on the bench just because they're new if they can play the game you put them in So maybe you need to step up your game to do as good a job as the new person Hey Brian just a little question for you Did you feel like Anakin Skywalker? So I know what you're talking about because you know I saw gave me the shot I did see all that happening but I'm not talking about math by the way at all he was the only one that helped me overcome my stuff So I totally agree with you what I'm saying about you are a child is that don't be afraid to go into it but that's how people are gonna look at you because you are young in it but then you need to to learn from them and that's Can I say something? Yeah please Are you sure? Yep I think when you're a stylist and you about being behind the chair and you know your craft is awesome but she should still feel young in the fact that she hasn't gotten up in front of people and educated people because they are two totally different things people can be great at something and not great teachers Yeah So I think you know she wants to do it She should do it but you should I think she definitely you're gonna stumble at the beginning because it's hard We gotta be humble about it and if people are thinking that she is young in it she is young in it because she hasn't educated yet before I don't know if she has or not but she should be prideful that she's good at her craft but teaching isn't something that she's learned yet Well I mean I was two years with a license when I began to be an educator when I got my teaching life I was like 25 Yeah I was a 25 year old cosmetology educator Right I got I had students who were twice my age who hated me for it Right You know but I mean I had co-workers who were old enough my mother or some my grandmother but it's just like you don't go into it knowing everything you don't know crap you don't know how to teach you don't you know how to do hair but you don't have to pass that information on as an educator and that's where you're there to learn Yeah and you have to I think the best advice I can give anybody who wants to do it no matter you have to learn how to give that information out so I think if you just go in with that mindset of being a child because think about it the most creative people in the world are kids they're the best imaginations so use that to your advantage Yeah I mean educators are so stuck in their ways Right that's one of the good things about being new if you're new and you're still trying to learn then you haven't taught how to do this one length haircut for the past 25 years Yeah you are way more likely to be up on what's trendy what's new all that stuff so you'll have chances you've got a new energy to bring to the table with younger people I think because that's what they do and Matt all don't teach well now also being into it for so long but like when we started out we had a lot of young you know not and Sammy they were all just out of school Yeah you knew how to teach you know you knew how to educate and you molded them into kind of you know who they are and one of them is an educator now for a palmatial school right and palmatial now so so I say go for it do it everyone should go for it and here's the thing she's asking and you know just be ready there's going to be someone that's going to give you shit they suck keep going go into it with a modest ambition you know it's funny you know when you're around the right people IBS it was hilarious because I was backstage all day with all of these artists these big artists and it was here's the big the crazy thing about the industry you're not an emcee well for yeah I'm the worst emcee and now well because you'd rather be up there doing it yeah I'm the worst emcee in the world you're not the worst you just I was a bad one but but let's put it this way so I was backstage and before I'd have to go up to them and say you know what do you want me to say about you and it was hilarious because all the people that are actually like super talented people all said to me the same exact thing say whatever's in your heart whatever you feel like saying the people that were not talented that were getting up there that were just just so like the ego is just way up there had this long list of everything that every accomplishment from like the way that they childbirth till now alright so they would go through it and it's just you know I appreciate accomplishments but it's just funny when you know when the longer you're in the industry the longer you see anybody can get an accomplishment yeah and you gotta find those people that really inspire you and that's who you go and assist and wanna be an educator for don't try to go find the first flashy company or whatever it is find people that you look up to and and get behind them and learn from them I work with them I watched your videos for almost every one up until episode 53 I preached free salon vacation and now I work with you guys it still kicks me on my ass once a week well thanks now we share this table together weird it's not weird it's still weird sometimes now you still when I watch you work for a full day or I watch him Bollyard I watch Sad Worker it still kicks me I do wanna give two shoutouts because something happened to me this weekend that has never happened and I until you just said that it reminded me of it it's exciting what you and that do well no we so this lady Angela came up to me and she was with her salon I think there's two of them that work in this salon and it was somewhere in the middle of you know I don't know where but she she comes up to me and she's saying hi and I can tell she's like really nervous right like tears are falling out of her face like she's not crying she just can't like she's like so nervous and it was like it was just so nice to like she told me that you know she she had started doing hair late and so she hasn't been her hairdresser super long and all that stuff she just had like this really cool story and it was just cool to hear you know that everything that we've done the videos that we create and stuff that was the reaction you know when we finally walked up and then there's somebody congratulating for graduating or something right oh jeez all jeez we go all the way back just graduate who just passed state boards it just I had it somebody did I feel like every week we have people passing state boards now we should start a segment every week on congratulating people for passing we're going to run down for joining the world ahh come on it was a while ago sorry about that yeah we did before we started the show because we saw it and now I'm having a hard time finding it somebody's 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