 But continuing election coverage in progress, it's just who does this and looks good unless you buy and I don't think that it's wrong to buy this but unless you buy that Megan Kelly is you know she's basically Ice Cube in 93 like she's just a minutes by Felicia Felicia no she's she's on apparently the wrong network to FWIC to Fox with you mean yes the wrong network to Fox with ah this is great I'm excited we're gonna talk Iowa corn futures pork bellies all kind of good stuff Jenny I'm gonna should I bring you should I just introduce you off the top sure why not I'll be here I probably won't talk a ton during the regular that's fine no worries no it's better than it's better that you're here yeah I have some tech fart yep case the Santorum campaign storms your hotel room I'll try to get all up in here all up in your all right you will not play play the question I'm still I just saw straight out of Compton this weekend so I'm trying to come up with a metaphor still oh my god I just know sorry okay shall we mm-hmm here we go if you donate ten dollars per month you can say 1.4 seconds of every single episode is brought to you by you head to daily tech news show dot com slash support to adopt the second I called dibs on the first two seconds have that beautiful theme music this is the Daily Tech News for Thursday January 28th 2016 I'm Tom Marin joining us from Iowa Mr. Justin Robert young co-creator of the contender game and regular contributor right here on the DTNS how are the fields of Iowa Justin live and direct from Des Moines they are clesening with freshly melted snow Tom this is maybe the craziest Iowa caucus season in modern history and I bring it to you dear Daily Tech News show listeners from the front lines also joining us because we're gonna be talking about some of the technology that will be rolled out in this caucus and I know T2 T2 and all of Estonia will be laughing at us but I'll be telling you what we're gonna be doing Jenny Josephson producer of Daily Tech News show and former producer at CBS News and many other things joining us as well to discuss that how you do it Jenny I'm doing great nothing gets me excited like someone in the field covering an election literally in a field literally in a field yeah well it's been a lot of strip malls where most of the campaigns have their headquarters they paved paradise and they put up a strip mall yeah no Des Moines actually pretty fun I have to admit at this time of year so it'll be it'll be a cool thing we're not gonna try to localize politics and talk about politics if you're worried about that we're gonna talk about an app that Microsoft is using on the Azure platform so it's a fully technical topic it just happens to be that Justin is there in Iowa ahead of the election so it ties in well and and we should let you know we know Justin's audio is a little different because he's dealing with some technical difficulties on the road but you know hopefully you can hear and understand him just fine yeah thank you for your patience because I'm in a hotel where there's a lot of people using a lot of bandwidth so we're doing our best it's like the bandwidth just attempted at the beginning of that sentence to show people this is what he's dealing with and then it cleared up enough for you to understand so let us get right to the headlines Facebook has opened its live streaming function to all iPhone users in the United States a live button will now show up in your status update section right there along the ones with photos and stickers when you go live it will notify your friends and allow replays permanently so different than Periscope which limits the amount of time you can replay a live stream so mere cat debut and it is eaten by Periscope does Facebook live eat Periscope I don't think so I don't think the fact the fact that I can just go watch anybody's Periscope at any time is probably the appeal of Periscope and beer cat for that matter this is more I'm gonna stream to my friends now where it could eat into Periscope a little bit is you know when Representative Paul Ryan streamed the Blizzard from his office on Periscope he could have very well done that on Facebook and opened it up for everyone to see on his page but celebrities have been doing that in beta test for a few months now and I haven't heard of one really like capturing all the interest so I think it's just going to be a cool feature on Facebook that people will take advantage of not necessarily a Periscope killer some question does this mandate any deep-pocketed social network to do a live function since now Twitter and Facebook have theirs I think I think people will be eyeballing this very closely to see how well it does but yeah I think Periscope nudged Facebook into wanting to do this and I think now it's going to become a thing that lots of folks are going to be wanting to do twitch is adding more chrome extensions to help out their streamers and we should disclose you know Justin's wife works for twitch so yeah I mean I think I think live streaming is is becoming something that is a feature that most services are going to want to tap into if they can and if it makes sense or sense to me I think I think it's absolutely Oracle announced it will deprecate its Java browser plug-in in the JDK 9 release of the Java SE development kit coming in March 2017 Java plug-in along with the Netscape plug-in API flash and Silverlight have all become a wretched hive of scum and villainy in your browser and Oracle's finally admitted it Oracle encourages developers to use the plug-in free version of Java called Java Webstart thanks to ebridge's 13 and strike it rich one both for posting this on the subreddit end of an era Justin well there went Justin as an end of Justin is the end of Justin Justin probably was using a Java plug-in is yes yeah Apple has announced a voluntary recall of AC wall plug adapters with some Mac and iOS devices between 2003 and 2015 for Argentina Australia Brazil continental Europe New Zealand and South Korea now even if you're not in one of those countries the recall includes adapters sold in the world travel adapter kit which I definitely bought in that time period Apple says very rare incidents can cause the adapters to break and cause electrical shock not every adapter made in that period is being recalled it's kind of tricky to figure out you should go to apple.com slash support slash AC dash wall plug dash adapter and we have that link of the show notes as well to find out if you're concerned and if you think you have one of these adapters is this something that's been a consistent problem for Apple I feel like I've seen many times their wall plugs and their adapters having issues there was one other very famous widespread recall of the iPhone charger I recall and recently Microsoft had a recall on their power adapters for surface so this is just another example of Apple imitating Microsoft the next web reports Tinder has teamed up with Giffy to integrate GIFs into users can now tap a blue button to choose for millions of GIFs to send to a match other tweaks include larger emojis the ability to like incoming messages by tapping on a green heart seems like that would mean jealousy and the ability to upload profile photos from your phones camera roll the updated features are out now for iOS but no word on when they'll arrive for Android I I I don't even know people who use Tinder so I got nothing to say about this other than like okay features the Daily Tech News Show team has a lot of experience on the other hand with Giffy and if you're in a new relationship and you're trusting Giffy to properly interpret the thing you're saying in your little Giffy slash whatever it might have some seriously unintended consequences for your relationship that's all I'm gonna say I really love Giffy and every ten times it nails it on the head but those other nine can be a doozy and you can't really know a person to be able to roll with roll with Giffy in a conversation although that's in slack you get like a you put it in and it happens I think in this you can use the search engine and choose okay that's a little safer I like that because oh boy there have been some Giffy's that I would definitely swipe whatever direction un unmarried people know to get rid of it well you know I'll tell you what this does seem like I thought peach remember remember peach the Halcyon days of peach it was like a Halcyon minute yeah David Bowie was alive we were so young I think the idea that you a possible gift is huge and and Giff's and Giff keyboards and the ability to choose a Giff and send it to someone has has become a regular way of communicating and almost like the next step beyond emojis so I think it all makes sense as be shared and wanted our US listeners to note that New York retail folks Ronnie small and Albert lineando have acquired the brand domain and associated trademarks for circuit city the two plan to have retail outlets web sales private label products kiosks mobile shops franchise opportunities and more company expects to open its first store in Dallas along with the relaunch of circuit city comm this coming June bringing it back to the brick and mortar but with a web strategy from the ground up with a bunch of people who used to work at Radio Shack a bunch of people who have been in the web game I mean it's an interesting way to do it you basically rebuild a heritage brand for the modern age well and specifically rebuild it like a small business right like I rebuilt it so you have one location and a web strategy and so like you a lot under these kind of situations you just over expand in terms of your retail and if they are smart about this you know it makes about as much sense as anybody opening up a retail store right at least this has name brand value you know what the funny thing is is that they're doing the same thing with Eastern Airlines so it feels like there's a very small group of airlines that are being re airplanes that are being rebranded under the eastern name and so it's a sort of like thing of bringing back these very historically laid in with significance brands into the into the 21st century so I think it's really interesting I'm curious to see how they turn out yeah and they're spinning it right the circuit city stores will be smaller than the big box stores they'll be small box stores it's almost like a Radio Shack type fillet now that Radio Shack has gone away and I have I have to say I'm looking forward to that world where I can grab a burger chef burger before I hop on my pan and flight finally though the full you will feel the full power of this nostalgia train grab taxi has rebranded itself as just grab well okay CEO Anthony Tan said the company now includes private cars so it's not just taxis grab car also has motorbike taxis grab bike delivery grab express and carpooling grab hitch grab also announced a new corporate service and cashless payment system it is now out of beta in Singapore and will expand to Indonesia Philippines and Malaysia in February followed by Thailand and Vietnam in the first half of 2016 so really the story here's less about is grab such a good name for a company and more about this is somebody who is showing uber the way uber is trying to do this as well but grab seems to be a little farther down the road at this point well grabs also a lot more agile right you know grab has an opportunity to put these kind of things in and see whether or not they work you know for uber they're trying every day they wake up trying to scale that's what they do for grab you're in a little bit of a smaller pond you're able to take a few chances and I think this is smart I notice there's no grab bus I don't know if there's a grab bus I didn't this isn't an exhaustive list there might be there might be a grab bus and I hope you pronounce it correctly I know I hope we can all play the game of grab bus there's got to be some kind of Southeast Asian dish that would fit into that let's not even get it I mean like hey it's going to be every email for the next two puket we'll have it Samsung warned profits are expected to remain flat for the next six months but recover in the second half of 2016 economic issues like the exchange rates that Apple cited are also affecting Samsung obviously slowing it demand is also to blame for Q4 Samsung raised profit 15% year over year and revenue rose 1.1% full your operating profit was up 1.4 trillion won as well the semiconductor part of Samsung is is doing the best out of this the phone part of it is they're trying to keep it going well and not have it collapse and it's not Samsung was the number one in phones shipped and phones sold both for Q4 and all of 2015 so Samsung is still doing very well in that but they are also well diversified to be a chip company as well so what does it mean for Samsung as a whole though right I mean like because they are so at least in America tied to their phone identity no matter how much they want to try to make themselves the galaxy of other peripherals that we can use with our Samsung phone it means that you have a skewed vision of Samsung if you're looking at them from the United States I think because they're their semiconductor section is booming I'm not saying that they wouldn't hurt if the phone market just fell apart but they're well positioned to be a chip company rather than an accessory company I mean they they can sell if they if they can sell chips to other manufacturers like Apple for instance which they do yeah they're in pretty good shape well certainly so but you know you got to wonder whether or not in terms of how they are understood publicly or if they're tied to the they believe that retail brand means something and it's worth it to keep alive because the next time there's a big gigantic vertical that they can be an advantageous player in they want the Samsung name hot for retail and for sure though that's a really good point because what you see them I mean obviously they're the number one smartphone maker in the world in 2015 they're not going to stop making phones yeah if they're smart no they're trying to say well when the phones do decline where do we go next and that's why you see the Samsung Gear watch and the Samsung Gear VR they definitely don't want to leave the consumer electronics business Ali Baba saw it's third quarter revenue growth 32% its gross merchandise volume is their bigger number that's the total value of goods transacted on the platform and in its marketplace that number rose 23% to 964 billion yuan revenue rose to 34.53 billion yuan leading expectations of 33.33 billion yuan and Ali Baba also fighting against a slowing Chinese market as everyone who who trades worldwide is so Ali Baba did well considering yeah I mean it certainly is something that is a major player for everybody who deals you know for goods but you know I don't know I mean like is that something where you know we had a point where Ali Baba becomes more of a a big name to American real super bowl swing will we ever see Ali Baba Super Bowl commercial well and they actually answer that question both ways in various interviews and earnings calls around this in one they said no we're focused on our Chinese market because we're doing quite well there that was the one directed to Chinese investors saying we're not abandoning you anytime soon at the same point they're traded in the United States and they are very aggressively saying yes we plan to move into the United States market more and more so I you know I have a feeling that they would love to have more of a presence here at the same time you know Pokemon is the closest thing to a Super Bowl commercial that you're gonna get to Ali Baba I think at least this year Amazon report I only say that because I did a Google search for Ali Baba Super Bowl commercial and I got Pokemon as the only result I got four major ad businesses so they're doing just fine well and Ali Baba is trying to diversify into being a video streaming service and electronics company so so they're trying to do what all of these companies are trying to do which is be in a lot of different businesses Amazon reported a 21.8 percent rise in quarterly revenue to 482 million dollars and a dollar earnings per share up from 45 cents a share last year net sales rose to 35.75 billion but analysts thought they'd do better analysts wanted a dollar 56 per share on sales of 35.98 billion so they did not beat the street and that's Amazon man they always shave things real close to the bone well that's the problem they don't even have the raw volume they're not gonna have the numbers that's just their business model Microsoft posted five billion dollars in net income and 62 cents a share on revenue of 23.8 billion company reported total income of 6.3 billion and 78 cents a share not net that's the gross analysts had expected gross 71 cents a share so they beat that by 7 cents and revenue of 25.2 billion by tomorrow we'll have lots of numbers about how the different divisions of Microsoft did and who how many windows installs I think so far all I've seen is such an Adela said that they've they're pretty close to the you know the number that they want to be on windows installs but we'll hear more about that as it comes but mostly they're saying hey we did really well and the street is rewarding them for that surface revenue did dip last quarter and this time it's up year over year by 29 percent which it's all pretty good news except for the phones phone sales were weak Tom is it possible that we could see a resurgence in such a mania the such a mania that we remember from oh so many months ago you know I it's a it's a pretty good it's a pretty good result for Microsoft at a time when people are questioning Apple's pretty good results so yeah maybe a little such a mania will be on the rise we'll see deserved or not that is a look at the headlines thanks to everybody who submitted stories that are subreddit daily tech news show dot reddit dot com and you should get in there and vote let us know what you want us to talk about daily tech news show dot reddit dot com that is a look at the headlines all right so the Iowa caucus if you're not from the United States it's confusing if you're from the United States it's confusing it is a caucus not a primary but it is the first election in primary season right yeah and first in the nation and good well the difference there's a difference between the way the Republicans and Democrats do their caucuses the Republicans voters sign in at a precinct and then they sit and they listen to presentations on behalf of each candidate then they write their name of the candidate they prefer on a piece of paper and then it's handed in by secret ballot but it's not a traditional here's a printed ballot choose who you want it's a sit around and listen and then write down a name Democrats get even weirder as far as I'm concerned they go in and stand in a corner of the candidate they prefer and then groups try to persuade people to leave their corner and come over to their corner hence the phrase come over to my corner and if a group doesn't meet a preset threshold of numbers then that group is freed to go join whatever corner they want and at the end of that hoedown somehow they have a number of delegates allocated per precinct to the various candidates at what point do they yell corner on the market I think that's why they're playing pit waiting for somebody to decide which corner they're going to join in yeah and and believe you me in this election we have candidates that will protect their corners Marlowe Stanfield style this is one of the best hokey corn fed silly elements of our political process I love it dearly I hope it never changes in fact I only hope it gets weirder but it's a complicated thing even if you love it even if you really really are a huge fan of it it's a complicated thing to keep track of understand this on Monday night when the caucus is over you will see percentages for Bernie Sanders percentages for Hillary Clinton those are approximations that are invented by the news media so they can give you that information in the same way you're normally used to getting it because unlike regular popular votes that doesn't exist in the Iowa caucus there is only a general percentage of the delegates that are given out so there have been this year or this cycle rather some efforts made to digitize the process right there was a mistake in 2012 in the reporting where they declared Mitt Romney to be the winner of the Iowa caucus but they were missing some votes and there were some incorrect tallies which they corrected and then weeks later declared the official winner to be Rick Santorum now a lot of people say that that derailed his campaign because the winner of the Iowa caucus does get a boost in publicity and gets a boost of morale for their staff so this year Microsoft and a company called interno legy that's KNOW interno legy which is co-founded by a former Microsoft employee but specializes in interfaces those two companies have stepped in to provide apps and an Azure based cloud system for reporting the results in an effort to make them more instantaneous and more accurate so precinct captains that will be watching the hoedown or counting the secret ballots can then use an iOS Android or Windows phone and there's apps for all of those and they will be able to you know verify by phone number I actually tried one out and I got to the point where it said okay put in the verified phone number that you're a precinct captain I'm like well I'm not so I can't go any farther but that's how it's verified to be able to enter the statistics now they can only log in for 15 minutes they have to use two factor authentication to make sure it's them the buttons are apparently big and hard to mistake because the old system was touch-tone phone and you could easily type 22 on a touch-tone phone instead of 2 when you're reporting your votes mistaken tallies are also flagged on the central headquarters end by the Azure cloud platform if it sees something that's like wait a minute that's a lot of numbers for that precinct or these numbers don't add up and it will try to catch the mistakes and double check them before submission is officialized and the best part is you can watch this because the results as they are accepted will be posted in real time at Iowa caucus project org they will also still have an old system that uses that touch-tone phone in case somebody has a problem with this new system in reporting but not everybody's happy about the system right no certainly not and by the way just two seconds to go back to why this is a problem that needed to be solved the results of the Iowa caucus which were very raised thin as we found out were held up last cycle because somebody could not get reception on their touch-tone phone and had to drive their results into another another area and so literally the entire political world was held up because somebody was lost getting from point A to point B this serves to be a better situation however Bernie Sanders the lead uh challenger to Hillary Clinton somebody that has uh depending on who you ask a good to very good chance to make this caucus competitive on the democratic and more complicated side says this is a gameable system furthermore he's a more amazing that has a lot of money from four employees and current employees going through Clinton is one that has the name well and hold to you're you're breaking up a little bit there Justin so I just want to add that uh Bernie Sanders is pointing out that in 2008 employees of Microsoft gave money to Hillary Clinton uh Bernie Sanders wasn't running for president in 2008 we don't know who's been giving money to Bernie Sanders this time around although two years ago the last time Bernie Sanders was elected to congress it was mostly unions that gave him money so the guess is even this year it's probably likely that Bernie Sanders isn't getting a lot of money from Microsoft um and I think that just to jump in for a second that the the point the larger point like candidates always gripe about fairness of this and fairness of that and they all each of them have their own independent reporting systems as a backup to make sure like they do that they don't end up uh you know getting a miscounted system but I think that the bigger point is I'm not so worried about the fact that it's Microsoft is the fact that it's only Microsoft and some other associated company like if you're gonna make a system in which electronic reporting of results in any part of the electoral system is um widespread I would kind of like it to be a consortium I would kind of like it to be a sort of a let's all kick in peace core type of a deal where the best technology is being put into play for the American governmental system rather than one company doing it which could either be seen to be manipulatable by some or at the very least what are the how are they gonna benefit from it and so that would be where I would take it is like let's just get like a lot of people in on this system and see if we can make it the best it can be but but Jenny as somebody who's worked with the people that make those decisions if one company just did not just step up and say we can fix it here's an app do you think it would have gotten done by four years or within eight years right no years from a major school you're absolutely right and that's why that's the problem is that the one company's been like look we're gonna do this we're gonna do it but then wouldn't you open it up then if it's one company doing it wouldn't you have to open it up for a level of review and sort of be an open source sort of second third fourth fifth look that I don't necessarily know that Microsoft would want to do because I don't know and no disrespect at all to the Iowa Democratic and Republican local the state parties but I don't know if they've got the eyes on that that that would make me feel comfortable well in a certain it's it's very easy to get into tech tech fear unwarranted tech fear here and I think some candidates may want to take advantage of that and say hey Ledites they're trying to use their technology those fancy Silicon Valley companies they're corporations let's not trust them and some of that is unfair the people who are the precinct captains can check later and say hold on that's not the number I report I remember reporting and there are ways to double check that and the candidates like you said will be doing their own double checking so there's very little I think Microsoft could get away with if they wanted to fix the election all of that said there are lots of chicanery that could happen to derail things like what happened last year accidentally or not last year but last time where a winner was declared who wasn't the winner and that can definitely affect the prospects of a candidate so I think I'm on the balance between saying well look don't distrust Microsoft just because they're a technology company there isn't that much they can do and and there isn't a lot of motivation for them to do horrible things at the same time why not make it open source Microsoft could easily make this open source I have not seen anything that indicates as anything but a closed source proprietary system that runs on Azure there's no reason Microsoft couldn't make it open source and they should in fact if Microsoft wants to be the one that says look we just want to get in here we want to do this for free for the good of the country then open the source code so that everybody can look and see what it's doing I mean you can see the effects of it on either end why not do that yeah well and and I would suspect the answer that question is known as right that we are we are just at a point where now it's becoming a thing because of Bernie Sanders uh for and and by the way I don't blame the Bernie Sanders campaign as Jenny knows the reason why campaigns constantly complain about fairness is the same reason why basketball coaches and football coaches constantly bother the reps is just to make sure that they're like they would rather be in their ear than not in their ear and that's what's happening I think with with Bernie Sanders but you're totally right Tom there should be something that's open yeah because I have no problem with Microsoft doing it just make it an open source effort that they're behind Google has tons of open source efforts hell Microsoft has tons of open source efforts everybody's open sourcing things regarding AI and machine learning why wouldn't you do this why wouldn't you put as much effort behind that why wouldn't you call in some countries who actually have lots of experience on this to help uh of which you know I mentioned Estonia before but they're there's more than just that country and they're really good at it so you know I just I feel like in some cases I'm sympathetic to the Sanders campaign in saying well why is Microsoft doing this for free because they're not doing it for free in the in the most altruistic way they possibly could at the same time I think you're right Justin it's because you know this was just easier yeah and also when it comes to the independent reporting systems of the Sanders and the Clinton campaign just because they're the ones that had been announced that have them I think you run into whole other issues if those happen to be electronic I don't know like did they say whether those are electronic or the old system of just like precinct captains reporting in because if it's electronic you might run into the Mitt Romney problem of when they tried to build an app to get in independent verification and it blew up in their face so I'm not sure that I necessarily as a as a potential voter trust candidates app to do the right thing either oh now we lost Tom this is fantastic Iowa is taking a toll on the podcast I mean John who could blame LTE coverage in Iowa I mean this episode has shown anything is that it's reliable and robust um yeah so wait so so overall I'm sorry we we love was connected audio from video there for a second so so summarize the past 10 seconds uh we were mostly making fun of you we were just wanting yeah we were also lauding how great LTE is in Iowa which is what they're going to be relying on to report these facts and figures I suggested that the NSA probably didn't like us questioning the electoral system so there you go well anyway I I guess what I would say is I'm actually glad that they're doing a cloud-based reporting system I'm glad that they're leaving the old system in place as a backup I think that's why is the only thing I would say is open source it make it make it make it open make it replicable for other states to use make it so it doesn't have to run on Azure and and then I'll be more in support of this sort of thing I yeah I think someone had a really good idea I think it was Carl in the chat room who said we can't trust a voting system unless it's written in assembly and verified by Steve Gibson no no I mean Carl makes a point he made a good point in there that uh you know open source still still takes a lot a lot of time to look at it's not a panacea but at least you can look at it which you can't so I would say it's better to have it that way it certainly doesn't fix everything well I will hear I would say final thought in this order good job Microsoft I think this is a step in the right direction online voting is something that should be more of a prevalent thing in America this brings us closer as opposed to farther away but open it up open sesame it's the right move to do and it's what we need our pick of the day comes from will in maidenhead I said you mentioned in passing on yesterday's show that computers had mastered checkers decades ago there's a really good book about this called one jump ahead it's written by Jonathan Schaefer who led development teams for the computer program that played checkers it's a fascinating story and the descriptions of the software's games against world champion dr. Marion tinsley are particularly gripping dr. tinsley was probably the greatest checkers player ever over the course of his 45 year playing career he only lost seven games wow then he lost to a computer but check it out that's what one jump ahead by Jonathan Schaefer thank you will for that pick send your picks to us folks feedback at daily tech news show dot com you can find more picks at daily tech news show dot com slash picks one message of the day before we get out of here Cameron and warm Adelaide don't rub it in Kevin said if twitter is struggling with growth and there is a chance they get bought out imagine if linkedin bought them or vice versa maybe a merger twitter being the business to public face linkedin being the business to employee face it would be a tough integration maybe and a hard sell to passionate supporters of both camps but you could see how linkedin would be salivating over the patentating over the potential numbers of businesses that need twitter and how twitter would get a more robust back end and purpose crazy yes but maybe facebook has your social life and the work in business lives need to be gathered together for strength well there's a whole other show in what i think about this hell it's a really actually a great show about like how you could integrate stuff like that but i also think the one point that's missing is there's a lot more going on on twitter than just business and marketing like there's actually occasional authentic human conversation so i don't know if i want linkedin associated with that but you don't have to merge the two services i think that's the key and cameron starts to make it sound like you would but but just like instagram was not merged into facebook but they're both benefiting from being in the same company i think linkedin and twitter could benefit uh that way maybe a unified sales staff maybe not uh leave linkedin as linkedin linkedin's doing very well these days and maybe twitter can learn something from well and and by the way what an upset for those of us who have followed this that like linkedin it is uh the the winner the one the outlasts out out smart out conquer uh you know the beloved media darling that is twitter well linkedin the friendster and myspace era social network which when it launched really wasn't considered a social network per se uh at least wasn't by me and has now become more of more so every day and is used more and more all the time the reason justin robert young is in iowa folks is because of the contender dot us justin robert young where will you be tonight tonight we are going to be at mayhem comics uh that is 7500 university avenue uh the first in the nation card caucus begins this evening come on down if you are in the demoint area uh in about an hour and a half from when we are recording this going to happen your car drive on out we're going to be there for a couple hours play the game when you win you can uh you can you can choose whatever candidate 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january 29th uh six to ten p.m at carl's place 1620 woodland avenue saturday january 30th 2 p.m at the up down arcade bar 500 locus street it uh man it's going to be so fun i'm excited to see everybody especially the dts folks yeah bro wear your dts t-shirt and then vote for jenny when you when it's time when you that is it uh for this daily tech news show jenny josephson has a brand new uh episode of tell it anyway out at tell it anyway dot com featuring rich from lovely cleveland and hamond it's the episode of two people i met on the internet which is very appropriate for the first year of year two of tell it anyway also we've got this little podcast called let's talk about star wars and we have a new wish episode out on that justin i saw the face i saw it i want to be on it i know well we have we'll talk about we'll talk in the post show because i have all sorts of ideas about that support the show folks uh we don't exist without you for those of you who do support the show 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of the frog pants network get more at frog pants dot com diamond club hope you have enjoyed this program boom boom topicality yeah that was awesome uh how how terrible how terrible was the audio uh two or three places it got terrible it got unintelligible the rest of the time was fine yeah all right and besides you're out in the field in iowa it's fine yeah i mean even on cnn they have people i mean but they're usually getting shot at when when when they're yeah or they're like they're in you know they're in deepest afghanistan this is like a four wire back in the day you know that's the difference dts allows you to have a bad connection from the field without getting shot at i think that's a benefit it's a benefit yeah we're sorry your vote could not be completed as biocap that's the old system actually tindec by the way came up with the actual thing i was looking for which was grab pass a comprehensive pass for all grab vehicle systems stop it stop it guys come on yeah come on tindec tind i don't understand why is that a problem i think how will that explain it to you i would uh you know if that was uh if that was nfc i would tap that pass on anything tom tom check your check your privilege and your privacy settings check check your terms of service all right i'm done good night everybody uh okay so uh let's see there's oh my gosh there's a lot of titles um damn the bad well that's damn the bandwidth full stream ahead that's sort of meta show yeah uh justin robot young also very better show i mean i'm personally fine with vote for jenny but i'm not running for anything and so that's easy i could do that i could get behind vote by the way my my wi-fi if you think this is bad my wi-fi right now is a beefy 1.11 down and a uh a nearly symmetrical 0.59 up oh my gosh that's like better than my office though no i'm just kidding my office is much better now we're sorry your vote could not be completed as dialed i really like that could we shorten it to your vote could not be completed as that's great it's gonna work because i think it's a little long yeah but that might make it but i like that because i don't see any iowa ones that are like vote for jenny's caucus or iowa caucus they hardly knew us oh yeah did dig iowa or didgy iowa yeah um no seven x i think your vote could not be completed as dialed is pretty great yeah your vote could not be completed as hey and props to us for not going straight to the ageism of age increase in cap captains i like that i like that we just like didn't go exactly or or uh to the age of bernie sanders and the fact that he's well you know i did want to bring up and i don't it's not a big deal that i didn't i didn't want to bring up that you know it is presumptuous of microsoft to think that every precinct captain will have a smartphone yeah that has nothing to do with age that's just like well wait a minute what if they don't affordability yeah affordability and just you know i'm like i don't have a need for a smartphone why do i you know i'm young i'm smart and i just don't want one well but isn't isn't part of it i mean like is is and i don't know whether or not this is part of the program but it wouldn't shock me if it's like if you do not have a smartphone a smartphone will be provided to you yeah in the in the article from the atlantic they said that they would they would work with precinct captains to make sure they had access to a secure phone so i think the party steps in at that point and says okay well bob over here i'll let you use his phone so and he's secure he's he's a he's you know he's bob he's super nice bob he's bob from the demo puns so all right so here we go i got it in the mail contender and politically incorrect pack i have yes i could not be more excited this is going to get played in our house in the next couple days it's so exciting uh awesome well you want to open it up you want to yeah i'm going to unbox this is my only unboxing unboxing all right got that everybody the cool old school scissors named here the contender is a social card game inspired by the vim and vigor of a real presidential debate 500 cards age 11 to plus not counting the politically incorrect pack players 3 plus time 15 plus minutes that's my kind of game all right here we go here we go if i do it like this they're all going to fall out right now okay look at this welcome to the presidential arena 40 topic cards 460 argument cards that's going to go great in the flanagan household we love you oh this fantastic room for look at this room for future packs i like that leave a little room we which by the way led to many packages being damaged in transit oh but we we are committed to it we like it oh i like to set up whoever has the most presidential hair is the first moderator everyone else is a candidate i love this this is so exciting so yeah to to to give the rules anybody who's not aware of it start off like cards against humanity or apples to apples to get dealt five cards one middle one topic card but that's where it changes uh from then on you begin to make your arguments by putting down three cards in front of you once everybody puts down three cards that's the end of the round you go one by one so you can put down one card to start with and then follow it up with two cards when it comes back around to you if you feel you have an awesome uh sentence that you can already put together just plop down three cards but that's a risk because you better hope it's really memorable and doesn't get forgotten by the time that everybody else goes uh and then or you can just have three one liners or wait and see if somebody's going to say something stupid so when it comes back to you you can jump on them with the perfect comeback oh i love these i'm reading that politically incorrect ones yeah the politically incorrect one is is uh basically the the main deck is family friendly pick it up uh play with your fam if this is more of a friends table top night bar game kind of situation pick them politically incorrect deck as well basically all the cards that we had to cut to make it family friendly they all went in there lots of stuff including to me my favorite topic card in the entire game which is your child so you need to fill in any of the blanks with your child well i'm super excited and i know lots of people that are going to be playing it and as it turns out justin i did some research i'm too old to know anybody covering stuff in iowa ah i mean listen we definitely we definitely uh made abc news in the background uh today here's the difference it was the abc news snapchat we literally saw an interaction between justin long and abc news uh wearing some a paid professional of a national media outlet walked up to a celebrity and said hey can i snap you for abc nice i'm not giving up i'm not giving up i'm reaching out across all bases but apparently the people i know are no longer the type who go to iowa they're the type iowa got you well i'll tell you what we're uh but we met her name is escaping me for cnn mm-hmm uh she was there uh so we were we were amongst all the bernie bus folks uh today um so who knows you know uh well well uh we we are gonna continue doggedly uh in our in our our campaign uh you know we sold a bunch to a ray gun which is a rad store here in the morning uh um and uh hopefully we'll sell a lot more at these at these events would you say that anyway all right i'm speaking i was just curious who gave you the warmest welcomes the warmest welcomes were easily ted crews in bernie i think that's our projections for the uh yeah yeah the warmest now we we effectively by the polls went to go meet up with the underdogs today tomorrow we will visit the favorites we will visit donald trump we will visit hillary world um so we will see whether or not maybe uh they will be super super cool with us as well uh but as it stands right now and cruises people were very efficient very busy but very very kind excited about the the first in the nation card caucus uh took a picture with a volunteer in the deck very excited uh and and bernie sanders man it was just it was uh it was like being in college all over again you know it's just a bunch of people really excited about listening to an older white guy uh it was it was amazing it's a selection bias but sure yeah um all right well good luck and then when you get back i have i have thoughts in a star warsian star warsian set of thoughts come at me yeah all right yeah by the way i'm so excited about i haven't gotten the chance to listen to it yet but i know i will love it because it's three of my favorite people between the two of you and carat so uh congratulations on on the launch and i'm pumped to i'm pumped to listen good time it's good time see you guys all right adios that was a good show yeah uh if it weren't for the technical issues it would have been yeah the best shows of the year yeah and uh i think that we minimized it by having you read the headlines all of them it helps yeah uh the the bigger problem was was the the break in the video which wasn't even justin yeah that was just weird much has happened i wait to go watch and find out what you guys said not very much i because i've now learned the lesson that you're still talking and so we don't try to say anything substantive but now now the folks on video will only hear you talking yeah so we basically were like we just laughed about the fact that you were gone i think if it had gone 30 more seconds we would have gone into some show yeah you know now that was the right that was the right call for sure yeah because i know well i frantically refreshed the page to make it reconnect i just said like jenny's making a really good point there that was fun i love being on uh this show sometimes actually i will add that it helped that you were on jenny because yeah it was just like one other human voice that sounded reasonable uh in terms of like audio quality although i do see i'm still peeking and that's really stressing me out you know i hope it doesn't come through tom is like super garbled now you're echoing i'm on the inside might be wrongly that's by roger um yeah i'm in the red like really hot um do you have a compressor do you use a compressor i'm using um a focus right that goes to a mackey so no you know no i guess none of the audio there's no software suite that allows you to basically do the job of an audio compressor no all right so now i'm talking at full volume and it's not redlining so god tom i hope that i hope it comes out okay you would have heard it yeah you would have heard it if it came out super grumpy clippy clippy yeah that let's talk about star wars was so clippy sometimes it just flat out stopped which was super bummer i don't normally for recording audio i always set the um set the thing to run at least minus six db on the whatever i mean for digital recording device because if i you can always amp it up somewhere else and someone else's hell but does give you some head room uh if if you're in a situation where you can't control the audio yeah one of the things i learned is that the the peak for field recordings for certain radio companies is like negative 12 db which i always thought it was like higher but uh that makes sense in a way i mean the more the especially with digital gear the more padding you can add is generally good i mean of course you don't want to go too far yeah for like everything i've been taught so has been around minus six just to make sure you get it you get it loud enough but you also don't you can avoid clipping if someone starts talking too close to a microphone or something clipping maybe the microsoft could revive clippy we noticed you're clipping would you like to do something about that uh okay what else that's it that's a really good show thanks man i mean like it's and this is i think this is part of what i was trying to articulate oh are we still streaming yeah uh is that um well it's it's the it was like just having having like you know uh just in there and actually being in the mix of it giving his you know giving his eye eyewitness that's it eyewitness his eyewitness oh that would have been a great show title uh it's great because it's like oh got someone on the ground yeah well and and it is mostly optics you know in that he he the story we talked about didn't need him to be there but it was it was a great opportunity because he was there and so and and so he could flesh it out with like hey i was actually at this campaign headquarter early today and then you know that that stuff just makes it more fun to listen to yeah it makes it stand out and a little more engaging yeah because then you would just be a bunch of talking virtual heads that's our show roger oh all right thanks everybody for watching we'll talk to you tomorrow from our heads bye yeti