 So we've got quite a full agenda. Are we going to be hearing about the Women's HLP Advocacy animations? We've got a presentation from colleagues in El Salvador and Honduras on an HLP assessment there. An update from the AOR, which will be looking at the work plan that we have for this year and next year, and some initial suggestions around that to have a discussion, and then a brief update on the Global Protection Cluster Conference, a forum happening in May. Then an update from our colleagues in the Shelter and CCCM clusters who are working with them. I'm going to break a brief update on the Visit to Somalia and then open it up for updates from colleagues who are on the call as well. That's what we're looking at doing. I'll put that in the chat actually, just so we can all have a look at it. I think so first, on the agenda, would be to hand over to Eleonora, who's going to introduce the advocacy animations on Women's HLP and talk us through those. Eleonora, over to you. Thank you, Jim, and good afternoon, colleagues. So, yes, today I will present to you the new release of the advocacy animations on Women's Land and Peace. This video animation is based on the key messages on Women's Land and Peace that were published last year, and they have been developed together with the HLPAOR, NRC, UNHCR. The idea behind this animation was to develop a simple and easy-to-use tool to convey the key messages. So it's a sensitisation tool. It provides an overview on the importance of protecting women's land and property rights for women empowerment, for sustainable development, peace and stability, and it was designed together with the help of graphic designers and with colleagues. It was first presented during two HLPA training sessions that were held last year by UN Habitat, together also with the HLPAOR, which allowed us to collect a feedback a bit on the style and also on the word itself to make it as easy to understand. This is targeting a broad audience of women and men. We're living in different contexts and we have different socio-economic and cultural backgrounds as well as these different professional backgrounds and might have or not any knowledge on HLPAOR. So this animation was launched yesterday in the occasion of International Women's Day, but it is not the only animation that has been prepared. Together with the advocacy, we also developed a training video. This training video provides a bit more comprehensive overview of the of the messages, but it hasn't been released yet and we plan to launch it during the Global Protection Conference to be held in May. So I will screen now the advocacy video and one more thing. This video is available in English, French and Arabic. I've put in the chat the link to the animations as well as the messages. I will screen now in English, but for colleagues who prefer to watch it in different languages, please have a look because they've all been uploaded. Also, I try to understand how to screen with the audio. I hope I understood correctly. I will try now. Let's see. Can you see my screen? Yes, we see it. All right, then let's hope also that you will be able to hear it. Yes. When her husband is killed in armed conflict, Sarah and her children flee their village to seek refuge. When she finally returns home, she finds her brother-in-law is trying to sell her house. He claims that as he is the sole male heir of his brother's estate, the property is now his. But Sarah knows that she and her late husband had joined ownership of the house. She is afraid, but she is determined to regain access to her family home. She speaks to the traditional leaders who agree to organise a mediation meeting. The brother-in-law is made aware of Sarah's rights and is required to return the property. Thanks to the support of the community leaders, Sarah is not forced to go to court and so she is able to keep good relations with her husband's family. She can now focus on providing for her family and rebuilding her life. Women's rights to housing, land and property are central to peace. If women own and control their land and property, they will feel more secure. If women can make decisions about the land they cultivate, they're able to improve food production and everyone will have more to eat. If women are empowered, they will have a bigger say in their community and society. They can help find solutions to conflicts and violence is less likely to break out. Three things are vital. Laws and policies must allow women to own, rent and use land and housing. It is necessary to do away with discriminatory rules, give women equal rights to land and property and issue joint ownership documents. Attitudes in society must change. It should become socially acceptable for women to own the land they cultivate. Community leaders should come to realise that this is not a threat but would benefit everyone. They should become champions of empowerment. Women themselves should be empowered. That means education and awareness raising. Women should know their rights and be able to demand them. To learn more about the messages on women, land and peace, visit our website. All right, then if the agenda allow, please confirm. I would like also, if any of you has any reaction, we would like, of course, suggestions for the dissemination of these videos so far. They've been disseminated through GLTN and UN Habitat platform. They will be, of course, disseminated through DHLPOR and Global Protection cluster one. Overall, in previous meetings, most of the responders convened that social media is the platform where this video is most suited to be shared but we actually hope that it can be featured in the website of other organisations that can be screened during, for instance, webinars, conferences, university courses. So, I would be, of course, also very happy at any time to provide you with the file if it helps and if it's needed for you to use offline. Yeah, thank you for watching and if you have any feedback, we would really love to hear from you. Thanks, Alenora. I see already something in the chat from Jacini in North East Nigeria. Short, precise and carries a key message, so that's helpful. Thank you. Anyone else wants a comment and particularly on that suggestions, ideas around how we could share and push this animation and its various languages as well. So, yeah, if you have any ideas or thoughts. The links are in the chat access as well. I just wanted to say that the video is online, of course, so anyone is completely free to use it the way it is and the other one, the longer one, will be as well, so feel free to make use of it also with your donors and help us think through how to make better use of it. Yeah, thanks. Yeah, thanks, and thanks for the comments. Yeah, and that idea, yeah, being able to use it ourselves like you say, take the link, use it the way you would like. Joseph Faskin, if it can be split into social media platforms, so put it into smaller parts so you could push little bits of it out. I don't know if that may be an option, I'm not sure, but yeah, that's a good suggestion. And yeah, thank you. But yeah, have I think anything else? Eleanor, anything from you? To pull that together? Well, no, first of all, thank you for the comments of colleagues, and on the length of the video, for the advocacy videos, we already consider a length that is the length that is possible to share as it is on social media platform, including Twitter, like if the platform will allow. And for the training video that will come out, since that will be a longer video, like around 10 minutes, we have explored this option of making it shorter so that it can be used and shared separately. Yeah, yeah, that's good, thanks. And I see, yeah, Joseph, your point that yeah, sometimes we have a big push when something's released and then forget to keep sharing. And I think that's true with a number of different resources that we have. We know are still good and still relevant. And we need to keep being able to share those. So yeah, I agree on that one. Great, thanks Eleanor. And yes, please keep having a think about that and see what ideas come up. And let's keep, yeah, let's keep with our regular meetings, keep saying, reminding ourselves about these animations and that they're there. I think that's a good idea. Great, thank you for that. Now I'm going to move on to the next item in the agenda, which is to call on our colleague Sylvia, who's going to share about HLP assessments in El Salvador and Honduras and give us an update on the work there. Sylvia, over to you. Let me just, I think I saw you online before, say. Yeah, yeah, hi, hi. Excellent. Morning for me. Yes, good morning. 7am here, so thank you. No problem, I'm going to share my screen. Okay, I guess you can see it? Yes, we see it well, yeah. Okay, good. So, first of all, maybe... Sorry, Sylvia, just say now we see your mode where you can see the two slides. I don't really have many, okay, wait. It was the one before you had it, fine. Yeah, okay. I don't have any notes beyond the... Oh, well, it's fine then, it's okay. I don't know how to take it out now. Okay, let me... Whatever. So, hi. Well, I don't know if Jim said anything, but okay, first I'm going to introduce myself. I'm Sylvia and I'm the ICLA PDM, Programme Development Manager for Central and Northern and Central America. NRC has been working in these regions since 2016, and it was mostly managed by a big office in Colombia, and they've been trying to separate... So, they decided to separate the country offices more or less two years ago. So, maybe just to say that we cover Honduras, El Salvador, Guatemala, and the border between Guatemala and Mexico, so Southern Mexico from this office, and in terms of, well, in terms of ICLA, it's more or less a startup, since they were not doing much, let's say, before I arrived a year and a half ago, and definitely in terms of HLP, it's, I mean, it's a definite startup. These, we conducted two assessments that the ones that I'm going to present a little bit, one in Honduras and one in El Salvador in 2022. We finished both of them mid 2022, and these assessments were aimed mainly, I mean, not only to contribute to the HCT, but also to give us an idea as ICLA on the legal landscape, the actor landscape, and also the particular issues of HLP in relation to this placement in this particular area. It's not focused on migration, but it's focused on internal displacement, which, as some of you might know, is mostly based on gang violence and control of what they call here social violence. So, it's mainly Marasampandillas or non-arm groups, but very much independent and having a lot of power. So, maybe having said that, just also another note I wanted to say about these assessments that they were carried out through an external consultancy, and we had the opportunity to work together with Laura Cunial and Juliette Sin, I guess Juliette is not in these meetings, but anyways, just wanted to say that they worked together with a little team that we had on board at the time, and with also a colleague from Colombia that came out to help with all of the data collection. And maybe one last point just to say that it was a very nice joint effort because we got all of the education team and shelter team to help us out and the community mobilizers because we didn't have a lot of team at the time. So, it was not carried out by E-Class staff, but it was carried out at least by community and sort of for semi-NRC staff. So, I'm going to be presenting two. I'll present them simultaneously. So, one is the one for Honduras, which is called No Worries Safe, and the other one is I Want My Place, which is the one for El Salvador. I will touch upon, because I don't have a lot of time, I will touch upon briefly on the methodology very, very briefly. A couple of lines on relevant institutions. I will not touch upon the legislation because we don't have time for that, because it also goes through the agrarian reforms, but the assessments are online, both in English and in Spanish. And then I will mostly focus a little bit on the HLP issues that came out of the study. So, methodology, just to let you know very quickly that we conducted around, so we did a beyond the test review that the consultants did. There was a quantitative data survey in each country. We reached nearly 800 households per country. So, this one is for Honduras, where we did it in three departments and within nine communities. And then we also combined it with qualitative data with FGDs and interviews. In El Salvador it was similar and also nearly 800 households that were surveyed, and we did it in 17 communities within five municipalities. I think it was also three departments. The main limitations just to be aware is, as I said, well, there was no ICLA, the ICLA team had just been set up and we didn't have any presence in the field, so we depended on the presence of our other CCs and also humanitarian access. This means our education team does operate in areas where gun violence is present and controlling the areas. But still, even within these areas, the community mobilizers know which areas they can go to, which ones they cannot go to. So, still there was a bit of data collection could only be carried in safe areas, as there is no negotiation on access, so to say. So, we could go maybe to one street, but maybe to the next one, no. It was to that level of detail. And then, as it happens in many other countries, well, there is fear or reluctancies to sell reporters IDP. So, we tried to put a couple of extra questions to let us know if they had been displaced or not. Here, well, displacement is not very, it doesn't have a lot of quantitative data on how many people are displaced and they're not up to date. There is something in El Nduras, but not so much in El Salvador. And most people, they, well, there's no laws, there are laws, sorry, there is a law that is not even implemented in El Salvador, and there is a law that just was approved, end of 2022 in El Nduras. So, there's no services being on human Italian services for displaced people. And also, because mostly it's like a hidden pattern of movement where they leave the house as fear of being murdered or being asked to pay a fear of extortion, or maybe because they want to kidnap the daughter to marry her off. And then they won't say that they've been displaced. They'll just say that there was a family issue or maybe they're going to do a job opportunity because they don't want them to be found again. So, a little bit, well, I touch upon a little bit on the legislation. So, there is one now on El Nduras and one in El Salvador. Neither of them are being implemented. And if you want to know a bit more on the agrarian reforms or the property legislation, the reports have that covered. Just maybe to give you a hint on the relevant institutions. So, in El Nduras we have three relevant institutions that manage register land and also property, the general property institute, the agrarian institute and the municipalities. So, they are not very well connected. So, the municipalities only register land for land and property for tax purposes. And they do not necessarily cross-check with the agrarian institute and the property institute. The system is not so developed that they can do that. And in some cases it's very, very primitive. So, there is existence of multiple land registries and cadastres with conflicting information. This is basically the result. There is also another figure, which is like a community figure, which is called Patronatos. They don't officially have any role to play over land, but since they administer the daily life of the communities and they advocate in front of the municipalities for services, they end up in some cases doing some very informal land registry or keeping records of who lives where. But this is not shared or recognized by the municipalities either. But at least it plays a little bit of a role of the community knows. They also, in some cases, they do a lot of great land. We'll cover that a little bit, even if it's informal. Now, in El Salvador, it's a lot more organized. There is a municipalities, but they don't have any legal authority to grant land to title. And the cadastres, they just serve to show who is registered and who lives in the community. The tax purposes are very minimal in El Salvador. So, that's not so much of an issue as in Honduras. And there is one figure, like a national figure, so the National Registry Centre, that combines the property registry and the agrarian registry as well, and everything is to be registered or should be registered there. And there is also the same figure as in Honduras for community self-organization, which is called ADESCO in this case. I cannot translate the full name, but it's something related to the administration of water, but they actually administer the whole community. And the same, they don't have any official powers, but they do get involved in the land status of the community, and the property status in the community, in the cases where they actually want to get involved, and in the cases where there is problems. Very informal, but they do help us, at least now that we're in the communities, to get in and know the landscape. So, HLP issues in these two countries. I will start with Honduras. I'm not really sure, Jim, at what time. I know that you tell me 15, 20 minutes, but I don't remember. I guess I'm 10. So, you'll count me or give me a sign, okay? I will cut you off. And, yeah, no, please carry on for a few minutes, and then it'll be nice to be able to have some questions as well. So, yeah, thanks. Okay. So, in terms of the issues, so for Honduras, we, so we found out generally there is, well, the tenure insecurity. This tenure insecurity is mostly related to the fact that following disaster, natural disaster, many communities moved just to a new settlement, and it was where it wasn't, land wasn't, was undeveloped, and it was unoccupied. And even the recognisances that they sort of invaded these places. This has most cases. There is an effort to regularize, mostly from the community, but the efforts have not achieved much. And some of the communities have been in this process for several years, even since one, even decades, because even since Huracan Mitch in the 90s. There is also confusion regarding titling processes, as to say there is lack of information on the status, so regardless whether you have invaded or not a community, the titling process is not very, it's not very transparent. There's a lack of information on the status, there is lack of follow-up on the authorities, of the status of the case, and the cadastral offices, they are understaffed, and they are under resourced. So this discourages also new communities to get into this kind of processes. There is incorrect, well, and as in many other places, there is incorrect land, lost damage documents and no registration records in general. This varies from community to community or from department to department. We've had departments like in the islas where there was a fire and everything was lost. We have other departments where it's just that the documents are pretty much incorrect, as they do not match at all with what the Institute of Property, the National Institute of Property records the state. So in comparison with other countries, I would say that possibly, I mean, it's not so well, so badly recorded land and property, but there is a general lack of update of these registries. So they made it to 20 years ago, so they are still the name of someone, which is that someone is not the current owner or occupier, and there is no trail on the ownership being handed over, even within the same family, so we'll cover that. Many, so we, as a result of our interviews, we got that 13% didn't have informal documents and that 36% don't have any at all, but that gives us that still around 50% have documents. The thing is that among these documents, you could say that possibly 90% or 80% are not updated, so they have old documents. Sorry, this is in Spanish because it's a photo, but this is the multiple types of ownership that they told us, so there is a big chunk that they say that they have a public, so formal documentation. Even, but not this documentation might not be exactly in their name, but maybe in their grandfather's name, and there is still a fourth that says that they have some kind of other documentation, community or receipts, and any other, or just a request for regularisation, any other kind. In terms of women's HEP rights, it's fairly advanced as 93% of the female responded that they do have documents on their name alone, and 16% said that they had documents in their name together with someone else, either their husband or a brother. Inheritans, so one of the main issues that came up on beyond the lack of updating the records was inheritance disputes. This comes from a tradition of several member families living in the same land, and the father allocating property while still alive, and as I said, since property records are barely updated, inheritance is seldom legalised, and actually 60% of the people who inherited their homes say they have not legalised the inheritance divisions, and then this comes as an issue, as you know, for family disputes, and also when they have to flee, as they don't have any documentation to them either sell or rent the places. A big issue also in Honduras is the loss of property at the place of origin after displacement because of violence. There are several issues here. One is that Gans may actually evict you to take control of the house. They may evict you just to take control of that corner, so not necessarily the house, but they will loot it, and they will, in some cases, they will use it as their own, what they call Casaslocas, so as their own place to hang out and commit crimes. If you flee because of extortion, they might not do anything to the house, and you might be able to keep an eye on it through someone else, but still gaining access or coming back is not foreseen until the violence or the gang is out, so that's very difficult for families that are displaced. There was a government study done, and it said that one third of the people that were displaced had ownership before, and that only 20% had actual documents, so the house stays in a limbo, as most of them were not registered before displacement. There is, if you want to know a little bit more about renting and issues about renting, this was covered in the assessment, but it didn't have time to cover everything in this presentation. Then we have El Salvador, so El Salvador presented. So, sorry, just another minute really, if that's okay. No problem, this one is a bit shorter. So maybe just for El Salvador to say that as in Honduras there is lack of registration and the ability to access titling services, even if it's a similar problem, so even if the World Bank in 1995 did a survey saying that 83% of the land had titles, it is commonly believed that these titles are not up to date, even if there is only one registry and taxes for property registration are not so high. There is a lot of, there is some processes that are still ongoing, so there is from the agrarian's reforms, there is beneficiaries that don't have documents yet from the agrarian reforms and also from reforms after the civil war in El Salvador. There is buyers that after the civil war were promised, went into an agreement that was done also through the government to buy property from land developers, but still these titles have not come through because there is a lot of irregularities in this process and also on the actual land developers that were approved or even in some cases not approved by the government and there is a lot of lack of knowledge on how to navigate the legal system. For women land ownership, you can see it's a little bit like in Honduras, so fairly recognized and the main issue again that it came out was also inheritance disputes, as there is the same pattern of living in the same land and not following through the inheritance process, not knowing the process, not knowing that you need a notary, this is a fairly sorry I forgot to mention but this is a fairly legalized and notarized and lawyer-wise system in general in Central America or in general in America and therefore you do need to go through a mediation process formally, you do need to go through notary for every document and people don't know or they don't have the means to go through that. I'll cover it now, this one is okay and just the loss of property, just to say again what I mentioned, this is the last slide Jim, this is the same problem as in Honduras regarding gang violence and the use of property and the loss of property and the impossibility to regain it afterwards. Thank you Sylvia, thank you that was fascinating. I want to open it up for questions or comments or you may see parallel similarities in your own work but yeah please the floor is open for any questions or comments, we have a few moments to ask Sylvia about this or feel free to write in the chat if you have a question as well. Yes Lorena please come in. Thank you Jim and good afternoon everybody. No I just wanted to maybe just link this process that NRC has done with the information that was like gathered in the analysis of the legal frameworks in Honduras. Let me just think it was in 2018 and there were like specific issues also connected to the process where we created a specific module within the property institute for the recording of abandoned houses due to false displacement. So when I was there I mean we did the whole process of the identification of abandoned houses but this information was included in one specific module within the unique registration system that the property institute has. We uploaded about 1500 properties at the time but I'm talking about 2020 now so I don't really know what's the current status just to highlight that the findings that NRC has done regarding the different levels of ownership and documentation could be also useful if linked with the process of identification and registration of abandoned houses due to forced displacement. So I just wanted to flag that out cos it could be useful to cross check that process too. Over to you thank you. Thank you Lorena and I guess a point to Lorena and to Sylvia as well if you would be able to share links to those documents or anything relevant in the chat that would be great. If you can't do it right now send to me and we can make sure we get that shared. I see a question in the chat from Ludmilla regarding the high percentage of women who have titles in their own name is there or was there any program that specifically favoured women for titling? So given that women you know it was quite a high percentage of women who had titles in their own name was there something specifically that favoured women in the programming? Yeah thanks so for the links yeah I will put them afterwards and Jim you also have the links both in Spanish and English in a previous email so you can also share them around in an email afterwards. For the question on women I mean there was oh sorry I was looking for the camera and I couldn't just saw this you can there was a little bit of in El Salvador it was a part of the agrarian reform and also after the civil war. They favoured women also because it was after the civil war and many men had either fled or were dead. Now it was difficult to be honest because as far as we understood I mean information has been very difficult together because many lands were under name of men and then you needed to prove that you are a farmer which they could improve it so that that was on their grant reform. On the rest to be honest it's actually it depends I mean we didn't get any any official we didn't get any official efforts in favour of women it was I guess in some I mean we we did have some informal communications and like the feedback from the beneficiaries themselves in some cases where I might as well have this in my in my wife's name and they just didn't know but they said that she was more there is a tendency for men to live women or to remarry and have several women they they live out of nowhere the house so maybe for the so usually for the sake of the children they say okay I don't mind if it's even just in my in my wife's name because she will stay there and then the children will have a place to live so it's very curious and very different context in other places and also maybe regarding what was said before yes I mean we did a lot of interviews and this work has been coordinated with with UNHCR it's not funded by UNHCR but it but we didn't have a lot of discussions we meet we met all of the all of the legal actors so the properties and municipalities we do work together with them right now it's just that yeah that work was done while ago on the registration of the properties and also um so it was only done for those that are actually registered in the property institute those that are not registered then you cannot put a note to protect that property in the institute because they are not then this was done for properties abandoned but the actual owners had fled and the actual owners were not part of the process so there may be properties protected in the official registry but the owners might not know about it because this was done through community links and as I said most registries are not up to date so that owner might never appear just because he was I don't know he was the grandfather at the time so it is now that the law has been approved in Honduras we hope there might be a different or a spirit process as also the the registries are not very it's not such a big issue here as in Guatemala which I wanted to mention by the way that we're launching the same assessment in Guatemala and that one is going to be a whole different issue with indigenous rights and historic rights so not not so much related I think it's going to bear different different findings so hopefully we can also present that in a couple of months to come great thank you Sylvia thank you really appreciate it and thanks for getting up early to join us thank you and yeah please keep if there's any questions that keep coming put them in the chat and Sylvia may be able to respond there or we can follow up afterwards and if you have other pieces of work colleagues that you're developing and would like to present and please do let us know when we will look to find a slot for you to do that because it's really great to be able to not only talk about you know some of the the ways we're communicating but also get into a little bit of depth about some of the work we're doing as well so thank you really appreciate that. I'm going to now just have a bit of a time sort of to focus on on the AOR on the area of responsibility and going to hand over to Ombreta who's going to lead us through a brief discussion looking at our sort of work plan for this year and next year and some suggestions around that it'd be great to get your comments and thoughts on that but yeah Ombreta over to you. Hello again everyone I hope you can see my screen correctly. Yes we see it well. Great so yeah I'm presenting now the common first draft of the work plan for the HLPAOR is definitely a first draft for discussion we are looking at the 2023-2024 time frame and it's based on some of the discussions we had with some of you but also the results of the survey that many of you did so thank you very much for that and a little bit the sentiment is to focus on key strategic action that will lead to change out of which then we can of course increase and add as we feel necessary as we go. We have identified six key areas of work that the global AOR can do you know we can do together and one is the community of practice so sharing the learning the lessons the results of the assessments as as we are doing also today. We are supporting the HLP intervention in country operations so facilitating or contributing or adding to the work on HLP that is done by country colleague as we can and this will vary from country to country there is of course the website or the HLP part of the protect bigger GPC website which is being worked on. There is that advocacy effort there are training and basically integrating and giving visibility to HLP within broader actions. So these are the key areas and I've indicated with some asterisks those that came up as as key priorities also in the survey that that many of you did so really needing you know scaling up training for country levels also I mean perceived as very good and important to have this space to share information and advocacy and supporting country levels. Zooming in now in the different these six different topics with the community of practice we have the global meetings like these ones which have you know a different type of components there's an aspect obviously of coordination information sharing but we thought perhaps to also add dedicated thematic meetings that will focus on a specific topics and many of you propose some of these topics I'll share briefly some that emerge as priority later on but definitely you know let us know in today or later on if there are any ones that you would like to lead or that you'd like to hear more about. There is also the newsletters and you know the online newsletter that is being sent out which is very useful there are coordinators there are meetings for coordinators and then there is the participation and contribution to the global protection cluster annual meeting like the one will take place in May. In terms of HLP country operation there is the need of supporting or we are looking at supporting humanitarian program cycle which is an activity that is a need for many of colleagues at country level sharing information management products more sharing than developing but definitely key collections of existing products can also be done as was done in the past but yeah they are having this this role of sharing what is there in terms of products and making sure that products that exist can be found can be shared by those who produce them and can be found in our various platform but of course mainly the HLP or the global protection cluster HLP or platform mapping the HLP coordination strengthening or continuing doing a function of help desk for country offices country colleagues and connect relevant actors at country level we we receive the feedback that this is a something that is very needed and that has worked well in some context and definitely will be really at the value to the work that perhaps HLP class HLP actors do but could be better connected to for example shelter actors or other actors third the website I think this is self-evident then the advocacy so advocacy to be done through webinars and events also to support by supporting advocacy at the country level by raising the profile of HLP within you with humanitarian actors like the protection cluster as a whole or you know dedicated organizations also raise the profile of HLP across actors that might fall different you know different places along the humanitarian development divide so because particularly for country level this is important where you know there might not be so many actors dealing with HLP per se but maybe other actors that deal with land or housing or land tenure security broadly so you'll see some indicated there and this also includes definitely the donors training training was I think the most popular area of work that many of you identified and this takes place in different ways some might be organized by HLP hours but we also noted and many of your flag that you are already having or planning to do training and capacity building in your own context so please do share this information with us so we can also connect additional stakeholder within the country of the context where you are planning this and if needed we can fill in some content or share some information where we can and then integrating HLP within the work of other clusters with other AORs of the global protection cluster and within our other streams of work we also looked at other aspects which are you know language inclusivity you know to attempt at least to to not make these are English only platform but you know boosting our outreach to other you know to communities that speak other languages I think Jim reported before as well that they are strengthening and are strengthening the the francophone support but we will try and to keep this in mind and make available you know things in different languages and try to host at least some of the discussion in other languages looking at the governance of the AOR which you know includes the strategy but also possibly a strategical advisory group probably this will be you know coming along when the revision of the GPC governance is a bit more clear but we keep it there as something that we might have to discuss maybe when we meet face to face in May. Lastly you know I said briefly that we will touch we will try to make space for you know focus on some of the thematic areas that are relevant with webinars or compiling sharing materials looking at the results of what you said and the discussion we had the key five ones that doesn't mean it's an exhaustive list but many of you converged around these key areas which is due diligence for HLP but also work on due diligence that is maybe done by shelter actors for example eviction prevention and response woman HLP rights HLP indurable solution intervention local integration resettlements urban area so making sure that basically all of us have a better understanding on what that means or what are the options what are the practices what has worked or not restitution and compensation and other and and there will be others but you know we look at now maybe start starting to identify and slot some of this thematic discussion so do please reach out to us and tell us if you would like to lead one if you have things to share if you want to have if you're doing work that can be then brought back and reported today or as a community as a whole yeah that's that's it from from my side open to you for comments inputs reflections questions right i see there is a conference coming up in the us this is good um see how we can you know link it back the all these different pieces and then training so that's great maybe can i just make can i just say a few words about that yes please oh sorry i see there are some hands up go ahead yeah historically there was a massive land conference hosted by the world bank which hasn't been happening but i think the last three years um we also see there's lots of different years stakeholders interested in land from different ways many NGOs but also obviously we want more people to be to be doing land in a humanitarian post crisis programming so the conference is kind of a first attempt to get probably 70 not really a very formal conference with submission of papers but more of a series of discussion groups um with the goal of raising the profile of hand housing band and property and associated issues so on women's empowerment on um you know very practical you know we talk about the nexus but land is obviously the kind of centre of it and we talk about stabilisation and land is you know the cause of conflict and it needs to be addressed in in response so this conference will be looking at those issues it will be hosted how university who have a very strong is a hb s user historically black college in university they're very strong uh focus on kind of on on ethics so hopefully it'll be drawing into some u s expertise on land as well um people are welcome it's not going to be it's not massive massive conference um given the venue size but we're really keen to kind of have it have give it a go see how it works and if it works we'll do more um obviously everyone's welcome it will be virtual open panel presentations but then the rest will be in person because it's easier and more functional way of managing things um i'll share more information as we get it and anyone wants to know more please contact me or hill me or i'r bairie directly thanks joseph this is uh very interesting and definitely very good we are all trying somehow to fill the the gap left by the the world bank land conference being absent but definitely it will be great to hear more and see how also we can contribute different partners can contribute thanks i see now other hands uh gloria thank you umbrella i just wanted to ask if within the different issues that you had prioritized you were considering um having a discussion on the existing software alternatives that we can use to safeguard hlp documentation um this is something that we have discussed with the world bank at some point i know there is something called black check what's the name block block change blockchain i'm not sure yeah but i know this is one of many different alternatives uh that i don't know maybe the rest are really familiar with i'm not really familiar with that and this is one of the key issues that we are discussing right now in northwest syria understanding the complexity on the land related issues however it might be one of the only opportunities that we have to at least develop a protection of documents uh but considering the sensitiveness of the issue we need to guarantee that uh the safeguard of the documents will be really really strong so that was one of the uh questions that i wanted to ask if this was within any of the different uh thematic priorities that you have identified and also of course if you already know of any of these specific uh softwares that can or have have been used for these purposes if you could also share that information and include it in the different webinars that's it thank you obitio thanks laurena maybe i'll just quickly respond to this no this is not uh on the list of priorities but i think it could be a good um theme basically at the tools that are safeguarding tgp documents uh i mean yeah the blockchain technology yeah we could have something on that i have um yeah we had this many discussions ourselves as well as unhabitat we are using in uh persidian refugees property the social tenure domain model tool uh that um unhabitat and global land to anachron developed there are others uh so i'm happy to share the information about our tool with you uh i'll put it in the link later uh but we can consider this one as well i mean then thanks thanks for the suggestion and we'll uh we'll reconvene and and maybe share an updated list of possible themes i have sofi first and then fernanda second sofi please go ahead uh yes good afternoon good evening uh everyone um just maybe i can uh just quickly introduce myself i'm a consultant working on dribble solutions and training and i just wanted to let you know that uh there is an online course on dribble solutions for id piece that was developed under the gb 2.0 consortium last year with a strong uh hlp component so i was part of the team developing it together with Barbara McKellen who is also in this uh in this school and who is an hlp specialist so for those who want to take it it's available on many uh websites including UNHR, IOM, UNHR and UNDP's website uh well learning platform if you have access to them or if you don't it's a valuable upon registration on disasters ready so you don't need to uh uh to pay anything and yeah once again it's on a durable solutions for id piece and there is a strong hlp component it's a 300 three hours course which uh talks about what is what are durable solutions and we do insist a lot on hlp and on concrete examples also so i just wanted to highlight that there that is accessible and uh uh that it could be of use for um or a member of this group and and maybe their partners thank you thank you sophie this is very useful to know definitely i haven't seen it yet but i'll have a look as well and then we can share it with the group and definitely if we have a session on durable solution include it and maybe give a space for for a short presentation on that thank you uh fernando yeah good afternoon and good morning to everyone the man on breta no i wanted to mention just a comment to the work plan and i i see there is a strong focus on on solutions as it should be uh because hlp is a cornerstone for that uh uh for for solutions but i wonder if we should also uh given that the hlp or sits within the protection cluster that is activated for emergencies have something a bit more specific about emergencies and of course i think i was thinking okay hlp due diligence which is possibly um i mean it's one of the first topics in the in the plan in your slide on breta but due diligence needs to happen at any time anyway right whether it is in a solutions oriented uh program or in emergencies and i wonder what is it additionally that we could do to build capacity of teams that are responding to emergencies fast emergencies like the earthquake we saw or ukraine etc etc so i wonder if we need to i don't know how if we want maybe we don't want more work streams it's a cross cutting issue or how would we be able to include that thank you thank you for nando i think is a good point particularly for and i mean at the end is also quite different when there is disaster or there is conflict i mean there are a lot of similarities but there are significant differences and definitely many of our teams struggling on the ground to to coordinate and would appropriate uh you know elements of analysis in the earthquake response for example in syria uh i don't have an answer but i think we will keep it keep thinking maybe to to have something more yeah nuanced or specific for emergencies um clearly i mean jim please do feel free to come in at a certain point i'll give you any way the word at the end um i think i don't know if soffie and lorena you have old hands or new hands i'll just briefly comment on just in response to fenando's point um because i think there's something about equipping you know our colleagues to respond but i think there's also a need probably as well to look again at sort of the advocacy within the system and within our colleagues just to emphasise you know the role of uh hlp programming and interventions at that kind of emergency humanitarian phase so i think alongside the kind of practical how do we do this also um you know doing something on uh sort of advocating for why that's important and obviously linking with the solutions and looking at those kind of the thread right the way through but um but yeah something there at the on the advocacy side as well yeah sorry yeah over to you yeah yeah no that's true and also the assessments i mean that's for example one area i know there is a lot of assessments uh existing um and reasons why not all the aspects can always be incorporated because then they become very long and unmanagables but this is an area for example where we are working on now um in in the earthquake response because um the hlp remains a gap um lorena yeah i'm sorry it was a new hand but it has to do with the point that that's been under raised which is connected with my previous uh issue with the software because with the earthquake uh this has been one of the key issues the loss of ownership of hlp related documents from all of the movements that we have had after the earthquake and we need to guarantee that there is the capacity to provide some safeguard to these documents even though we won't be able to do anything with them right now and this is also linked not only to the advocacy which i believe is key but also with funding for the first allocation that we received for the response of the earthquake in northwest syria we had placed hlp as one of the key actions and it was rejected and it was sent to the second allocation which is more uh early recovery and for us again uh in agreement with fernando this is not this is not where we are going to need the capacity we need it right now because people continue to move between idp sites our reception centers collective centers and they will probably lose the documents that they had even if they don't didn't lose them already with the earthquake so um if we can add to the work plan maybe the linkage between these specific tools to safeguard informations and documentation on hlp and guarantee that our partners in the field will have the capacity to do that i believe that will be really useful even if we will be able to conduct a specific response on the later stages but in the first level of response we need to have the capacity to provide some level of safeguard to these documents uh over to you. Lorena do you want to just um just introduce yourself and just say where you're working because that's you know relevant for the your comments i'm so sorry my name is Lorena Nieto i uh i am the senior protection cluster coordinator for the uh response in northwest syria and which organization at this point i'm sorry UNHCR thank you thank you so much um thank you and uh yeah point well taken and uh fully agreed um i don't think i see any more contributions uh jim you want to add uh from your end i mean i i yeah really welcome the comments and the engagement i think it's really interesting you know when you put something out there and then you get a little bit of uh yeah people see where maybe there are gaps or there are things that they would also like to see so that's really helpful um yeah i say well yeah we'll we'll discuss this and reflect and maybe share again something kind of in writing that people can comment and come back to in sort of slow time as it were as well um because although we have the you know we're always trying to look how we can better support the responses and our colleagues working in the different countries but then you know it's good to have these kind of longer term you know tools and needs and things identified that we can be developing as well so yeah really helpful thank you and keep commenting on this if uh if you if things come to you but we'll we'll share a sort of a draft version for people to have a uh a chance to reflect on um yeah maybe the next newsletter which we can send out next week um that can sort of bring some of these things together yeah yes and then um thanks thanks jim and maybe on the way forward for the work plan uh we will put this in a shareable format it is but we'll share with you and then start basically ask to asking you and your organizations to to indicate interest or propose yourself also because at the end we we're happy to create a platform and a space for a different partners organization to report their work and suggest as well so we are very happy for for any of you of your colleagues to take the lead on this different streams of work um with that uh I think I I just want to say I've put I'm putting now here for Lorena a link to a page where you can see a bit more on one of the tool we use for that and I also take the opportunity of having the floor also to share is a newbie but a report we we launched yesterday as well on land women empowerment and socioeconomic development in the Arab region uh so basically uh yeah linked to to some of the work we did some field assessment we did in four countries and trying to correlate some of the trends of access to housing land and property rights and uh you know human development indicators somehow um so with that back to you Jim thank you thanks on bretta yeah thank you and yeah thanks keep the the comments coming really helpful um and yes just noting in the chat um sharing uh uh yeah reports under another animation Stuart thank you for that as Joseph says yeah that kind of makes the point that things are still relevant and still out there and um on the website we'll create a place to gather these things together um and that animation that's just been shared actually is in a number of languages as well so yeah thanks for posting that um and there's also some short mobile online training as well around hlp in emergency shelter response as well so we can share links to that as well but yeah thank you for that I just wanted to also take a brief moment to just mention the global protection cluster and conference or forum that's happening in Amman in May eight to the twelfth and so initially you know this was sort of suggested and put out there for people who are coordinators or co-coordinators of the hlp working groups and things but we'll be having some dedicated days on the hlp aor so it's a you know it's throughout the whole week some of the sessions we work together with the other global protection cluster and aor's and the teams from different countries but we'll have one one and a half two days where we'll have dedicated sessions for the hlp aor and I'd really like to you know make those days open to members of the the community here if if they are interested either if you're in Amman or if you can get there um but um I will um yeah just and we're sort of thinking through ideas for those days and there'll be some stuff probably around information management how we might work with local national partners some more on securing women's hlp rights and collaborative work how do we work together on advocacy and other issues and then some of the ways we might link in with other clusters and parts of you know the response architecture as well and you know how we work with for example mine action shelter cccm others what do we think about climate change and what does that mean for us so we're sort of thinking through how best to organise those days um but yeah we'd really sort of welcome you to consider joining us and if you any questions please do get in touch I'm just going to put a link in for you know if you're interested to register the the conference itself you know we can you can come to and you'll need to cover costs around you know travel and accommodation but but the conference itself will be um yeah covered by the the gpc but yeah please do do let me know if you've got any questions or comments and I'll um yeah there's a link to uh to be able to sign up for this um but yeah so I just wanted to mention that and um and in the in the spirit of how we work with other clusters and colleagues working in different parts of humanitarian response and beyond I want to hand over to Malina and maybe a BRA as well I'm not sure and to give us an update on the work you've been doing with HLP and the CCCM cluster um some really good exciting developments there so really pleased to have Malina present on that Malina over to you hello everyone um thank you I prepared a short presentation for the toolkit and Jim just so I'm mindful of time approximately how much time do I have do you reckon you could do it in seven minutes yes yeah definitely okay and if you're sure that's fine okay I'll run through it um pretty quickly I will um go ahead and share my screen um I'm not seeing the option do you want me to share it I can share it over here oh sorry I got it okay great yep we see it well okay perfect so hello everyone my name is Malina Holder um I think we've I've been on a call with many of you before to talk about the toolkit but I will be providing um a brief overview and introduction and talk about next steps for the housing land and property rights toolkit for CCCM practitioners so here's a brief agenda of the presentation I'll go over it a little bit quicker but I was going to give a little background um the aim and audience methodology methodology the structure a brief overview of the thematic areas and discuss next steps so as many of you know this toolkit came about in response to priorities identified by the CCCM and HLP practitioners to strengthen HLP responses in different types of camp settings um it was developed in collaboration with the CCCM cluster and HLP AOR working groups um where we identified kind of areas where CCCM practitioners are most concerned or engaging with HLP and tenure security issues um HLP tools that are relevant for CCCM practitioners and any gaps in available guidance and resources um so the aim of the toolkit was to provide resources and tools for kind of all phases of CCCM programming beginning with project planning such as due diligence to implementation and closure closure or transition and for any situations that may arise along the way such as um any evictions, dispute resolution kind of themes along this line and the intended audience is kind of for CCCM practitioners who are not HLP experts and need easily navigable guidance that's relevant and useful so the development of the toolkit came about um it was informed from input from the CCCM practitioners day uh working group meetings um analysis of existing CCCM shelter and HLP documents and consultations with the CCCM cluster and practitioners as well as the HLP AOR working groups the toolkit is structured around eight main thematic areas and as you can see these include due diligence community representation and participation women's inclusion conflict management and mediation camp closure and transition urban displacement eviction response and resettlement and inclusion of persons with disabilities and again these themes kind of derived from our consultations and identification of gaps and resources each thematic area and the toolkit provides an overview of the topic and how it relates to CCCM and HLP so for example for due diligence kind of what parts of identifying property ownership or um other due diligence processes are relevant uh and then it provides a set of relevant resources and tools so the resources are kind of longer documents like guidance notes reports any case studies and then the tools are really intended to be usable items like question sets checklists templates for mapping exercises or anything else that can be adapted to the context or situation and then each resource and tool provides um a context and the context indicates kind of the intended audience for the resource or tool the physical or geographic context and any any other type of information that would help the reader quickly identify whether or not the resource or tool is relevant to them and then the summary identifies where in the resource or tool there's useful information that is relevant to CCCM and also highlights the key messages but rather than summarizing the content of the resource or tool the summary is really aimed to help the reader navigate the document to quickly identify the information they need and understand why it is relevant um so it kind of serves more as a as a roadmap to to the resources that are provided and then there's a further reading section that's included at the end of each thematic area to provide additional information that did not contain the context and summaries uh should the engager reader wish to engage in the topic more and it's kind of intended that the toolkit will be continuously updated as tools become available uh so to briefly kind of describe what kind of content is within each thematic area under due diligence there are themes covered like verifying land ownership conducting tenure assessments understanding roles rights and responsibilities as it relates to hlp and tenure security community representation and participation has information about hlp rights and awareness building um guidance on or templates for participatory mapping and enumeration exercises and identifying stakeholders women's inclusion has information about gender responsive hlp tenure assessments gbv risk mitigation and um women's hlp rights and inclusion conflict management and mediation has guidance on engaging with land markets tools for land and conflict prevention and alternative conflict management and mediation information for camp closure and transition there's information about natural resource management transferring of use rights and collective center closure um in tenure rights urban displacement has information about um hlp and tenure security in out of camp context this is kind of the main focus of this section but also interventions for land access in cities um and hlp and tenure security in rental assistance programs and then eviction response and resettlement has tools for eviction risk mapping prevention and intervention and other guidance on cccm eviction response strategies and then disability inclusion focuses on um tenure assessments for persons with disabilities and any protections or protocols that should be included with regards to hlp and tenure security for persons with disabilities so the next step with the toolkit um the pdf version for dissemination is available so we're going to begin disseminating it with um ccm cluster and hlp a or partners as well as a short video that will kind of run through the toolkit and show how to use it um and introduce it and then um we will be engaging and sharing the toolkit with country offices uh coordinating field tests and then soon um it will be available and published on the cccm cluster website uh so that's all i had and if anyone has any questions or um wants to make sure that they're on the list for dissemination you can reach out to me at uh mel smith at iom.int um and that's all i had thanks malina that's great and um yeah if there's any yeah links or anything to share let's make sure we put them in the newsletter or in the the chat here as well but really appreciate your your work on bringing that together um and really interested to you know have that not only the guidance and drawing together tools that are already out there but that kind of walking people through how it applies why it's relevant which i think is a real value add for that so really appreciate that and yeah look forward to seeing it kind of used and uh and then see how we uh best make use of it within the website where it could be more kind of interactively engaged with so yeah thanks i'm really appreciate that um great so we have um six minutes left by my clock i'm going to park my own reflections on the trip to Somalia because i would like to um hear from colleagues on the call if anyone would like to um mention something they're working on or give a brief update um i had a message before i was going to invite Barbara to um introduce herself and her new role if Barbara if you're if you're there please do um do come forward but others if you want to raise a hand and say something either in the chat or to colleagues then please uh please do ah yes Catherine do you want me to hand over to you first see i respond if i see a camera come on i'm like oh hi that's how we do but Catherine on Barbara thank you very much yeah thank you you can hear me i hope yes thank you and good afternoon good morning all colleagues Catherine from DSC and i was i think you're still on Barbara but i wanted to introduce our new great colleague that i know quite a few of you know already Barbara McAllen and Barbara started with us in DSC Danish Refugee Council uh on Monday only and uh will be the global HLP advisor for DSC so moving forward also Barbara will be the colleague representing DSC in this form and we are super thrilled because we have been trying to to engage this far but it's been difficult for us but now we have a dedicated resource with Barbara and moving forward we will be also reaching out to you bilaterally in terms of Barbara taking stock of where we are at in DSC when it comes to housing land and property which in DSC is part of our legal aid work and legal aid work actually being part of our protection sector but within legal aid work we have three competency areas and housing land property is one the others are civil documentation and asylum procedure so Barbara will be dedicated on the HLP work and we're really looking forward to that and hoping also that uh you will uh you will be welcoming Barbara as she will also be reaching out to you to discuss ideas and also your perspective source on where DSC also as a legal aid and HLP actor can add value and can complement all the collected efforts I don't know Barbara if you want to come in also um yes just just to say a few words that I managed to switch on the camera uh yeah I know I mean Catherine said it also I will reach out to some of you um just to understand more what your priorities are how we can cooperate on different issues um in the first part of my job I will also work internally to DRC to test take stock of where we are etc so I'll reach out but if you also want to reach out feel free I've put my email address um in the chat um yes and that's it for the moment as Catherine said I'm very new to DRC so um yeah I'll get back to you thank you well thanks Barbara and I think a number of us here will already know you and your work and you know have been part of the your work supporting the special rapporteur on human rights of IDPs and things as well so welcome to to the I don't know the community do we call it a family I'm not sure but anyway it's very good to have you with us and thanks for yeah for being here and look it's really great to have um you know sort of dedicated HLP capacity from DRC and look forward to having you you with us so yeah thanks thanks so much um thank you and would anyone else like to give a brief update or um yeah say hello or anything really um any anything that they're working on or if anything new that's happening um I see lots of you on there and I know you're involved in very interesting work so please do even just a brief comment it's always good to hear what people are people are doing tonight do I need to set the bar even lower than that and even just to say hello come on people I know you're there you don't have to hello hello thanks I suppose if you have to for it that's what you get right um fair enough in the chat what's someone saying oh Phil saying hello hi Phil good excellent and it's a new it's a new low isn't it when there that's that's the inputs no but I like it it's still good great okay well if anything does come to mind please do get in touch and um yes and we'll be drawing to a close now um I'll speak a little bit more on the the visit I undertook to Somalia I'll do that next time um but yeah it was suffice to say it was very interesting and HLP issues are key one of the key things that comes up is that link between emergency response and durable solutions that we've we've heard about already in the call and then the need to have both of those things in mind so um it spoke well of our partnership in leading with a UN habitat and it also spoke well for the participation of all of you here so um yeah look forward to discussing that more but um yeah thank you on bretta would you like to say anything at this point not really but I think it was a first good meeting and we look forward to have a a more concretised work plan so that we can you know already uh you know see how some of the topics will maybe come across later and then you know some of you can more concreted think where you can contribute better or where you can prepare your present your your case your experiences there so I'm very much looking forward actually to to have this down with all the super interesting topics that we will be discussing in the course of the year um and um yeah I'm looking forward to seeing you in Amman yes that would be great and yeah and I think we'll probably start maybe even approaching people about some of these work areas as well if we know you have an interest though that'd be good to to discuss more but great okay well that's it from my side um we'll be following up with a newsletter and we'll bring together the presentations where we can and the recording and that kind of thing as well so um yeah um let's keep in touch but thanks and have a good rest of the day you too bye thank you bye everyone thank you have a nice day bye bye