 Alright, thanks for staying with us now. Nigeria's 2023 general elections, of course, which held on the 25th of February, as on Saturday, and some places the voting extended to Sunday 26th of February had, of course, I mean, everybody would know that had some glitches, right? The INEC chairman Yakubu Muhammad declared Tinibu as the president-elect, you know, and Ashwajju, he got some votes of over 8 million to defeat a TIKO that had about over 6.9 and PTOB following behind with 6.1 million votes. And the result of the 2023 election vis-a-vis the various anomalies witnessed by the citizens within the few days, or within few days now, has left a lot of mixed reactions. So we're asking what are your thoughts on the INEC, INEC conduction of this particular elections and generally what you think about the 2023 general elections. That's the question for tonight, 2023 has come upon us, and it has happened. Alright, so let's hear your thoughts, remember, you can join the conversation, send us an SMS or WhatsApp to 081-803-4663, you can also tweet at us at weishuafqa1 with the hashtag weishu. Quickly, ladies, I just want to hear two minutes because I think our guest is with us already on standby. Jennifer, we already heard your thoughts yesterday, so let me just come to EC and Glory. What are your thoughts generally on the 2023 elections, you know, what are your thoughts on INEC? Quickly. EC, did we lose your audio? EC, we can hear you. Can you hear me? Can you unmute yourself if you're muted or something? Go ahead. So I gave an insight into how I really felt about it and when I even talked to other people about it, they actually expressed the same thing I was actually feeling. I felt that the electoral process could have been done in a better way, but what we experienced was a total disregard for the electoral process, a total disregard for the citizens that actually came out to participate and cast their vote. And we also experienced a total disregard for individuals who were disenfranchised in the electoral process as well. So yes, it could have been conducted in a better way from the moment we casted our vote to the moment we actually had it uploaded to the process, the whole process, the whole fiasco of the election. We had a situation whereby we had individuals who were hurt in the process. So I felt it was a total failure as far as I was concerned. What's your thought now bringing our guest? So I promised myself, like, I will not talk a lot about this because whenever I, from when the votes were casted on Saturday and the way the whole everything went turned out was really, really discouraging, a lot of emotions for me. And it was a total mess, to be honest. So many disregard on the side of INEG, they disregarded many things, their promises and it was a total mess. Technically, operationally, everything. So I had high hopes for this 2023 election because there was just this constant reminder that it's going to be free and fair and very transparent. And I think that's what most Nigerians held on to vote. There were so many first time voters because for once they believed that their votes were going to count for something. And to know that some of them after going through the struggle of even getting their PVC's, so many people struggled a lot to get their PVC, but we need to go all the way just to get it. And at the end of the day, most of them did not even vote or most of them were disenfranchised. Some of them were hurt. And the fact that citizens talked about it over and over international bodies were saying, OK, and INEG just kept a deaf ear. It's it's like it's so I don't know what to say or to be honest. I don't know what to say. But it's really disappointing. Bringing our guest David Houdain is an investigative journalist and twenty twenty three distinguished James Curry fellow at the University of Cambridge Center of African Studies. He's a broadcaster whose work has appeared on CNN, Al Jazeera. The Africa Report, Washington Post, his work as a satireist on the other news. My just answer to Daily Show has featured in New York New Yorker magazine and in Netflix documentary Larry Charles, Dangerous World of Comedy. And I think David Houdain has joined us via Zoom. Thank you so much, David, for joining us tonight. Thank you for having me. OK, we have been shouting twenty three, twenty three. Road to twenty three, twenty three has come and it has gone. I'm February 25th. First of all, I want to hear your thoughts on just the general overview. If you were to rate INEC, how would you rate the elections for the twenty twenty three presidential elections that was held on Saturday? So if first of all, I'm going to try as much as possible to be to be as balanced as I can be, because obviously I'm not trying to get you taken off air or find five million there. So bear with me. Um, if there is such a thing as a negative score, something below zero to give to INEC, that would be what I would call them. Because merely giving them a low score would be to indicate that maybe they tried, but it wasn't good enough. That was not the case here. This was a case that this was an election that was actively stolen. That was actively manipulated. And we saw it happen in real time. I have never seen anything like this before where an election is going on. And obviously because of the the the Electoral Amendment Act, twenty twenty two and the the diverse the provision for the diverse system that was made and the fact that party agents get to take photos of the results sheet. So we could actually see in real time what was happening and what direction the vote was going. And then, in my opinion, the most important part of the electoral act, the part which went to court several times, we stated that the results must be transmitted electronically directly from the polling units via the beavers to the central INEC server. All of a sudden, that became optional. So we're playing a game and in the middle of the game, the rules were changed and the goalposts were shifted. I've never seen where that happens before. I don't understand it. And after that has happened and there was this incredible shift of voting patterns, including, you know, someone winning 80,000 people, winning 80,000 votes in a single local government, while, you know, none of the other parties managed above 4,000. And this is a state which historically has always voted the opposite way. And all of a sudden and there were all these videos coming out, authenticated videos coming out, showing all manner of thought. Glory, all manner of acts of violence. You have people going to polling booths and telling people if they don't vote a certain party, they vote any Igbo, well, made them vote here. And we know the person who said that and that person is still walking around the free man and was celebrating this morning that his candidate has been declared the winner, apparently. I don't know how this makes any sense. There is nobody I've engaged with over here in London who is monitoring the situation. Who has anything positive to say about this? In fact, the sense that I got from the people that have been interacting with over the past few days was that they fully expected the INEC chairman, Yaqubu Mahmood, to at least pause the announcement process and, you know, announce some sort of palliative measures. Maybe there should be a recount, something should be done because clearly this vote was completely compromised. Clearly it was very obvious. We had videos from inside a coalition centre where you could see people altering vote figures inside the coalition centre. This, you know, previously we've had stories about how INEC is compromised. This person played that person. This time around, we saw everything in 4K. We had, there was a recorded and authenticated video, by the way, because the audio, by the way, because the person in the audio has come out and admitted that he was the one. Someone boasting, an INEC contractor boasting that his boss, who was apparently declared winner of the INEC, paid $170 million to the INEC chair. And that time he's going to win the election boasting loudly. And all these are out in the open. And somehow, I missed all of this. INEC went out at 4 a.m. in the dead of the night when everyone was asleep and announced somebody as a winner. How does this make any sense? Are we even pretending to practice democracy as a system of government anymore? Because the basic premise of democracy is that it's a government of people for the group, which means the people choose their own leadership. The people made a choice on Saturday. They were voting a certain way. They voted for a certain candidate. And then some other person said, no, regardless of what the people say, that doesn't have anything to do with me. I'm not interested. I'm going to take what the people said, throw it away, and they write my own thing and impose myself on to the people. How is that a democracy? How is that democratic? And I'll just make it close with this, that the slippery slope here, right, the big issue here is not that some is not even that somebody who has no business in that office is in that office. Right. Yes, he has no business in that office, but that's not even the main issue here. The main issue is that the precedence that has been established here is that there does not need to be any respect, any any pretence of respect for the democratic process, for the electoral process. This Pandora's box that has been opened now, if somehow maybe the court system or whoever has the power to stop this now doesn't exercise that power. What it means is that the next time around or even going forward beyond that, this base that has been established that since apparently this is what an acceptable election looks like in Nigeria, then the next that anyone who wants to win power in Nigeria now knows that the secret is not organizing at the grassroots level. It's not canvassing for votes. It's not making people believe in you the way, you know, a certain candidate did and the majority of people warmed up to that. No, that's not how you win elections in Nigeria. How you win elections in Nigeria is by deploying violence, full stop, nothing more. And the precedence that that has created the problems that are going to be waiting for us in front. I don't think the people who think that they that they've won now understand the kind of problems they've created for themselves going forward because this is going to consume all of us. Wow. So, David, I hear you loud and clear and, you know, because we have drawn so much on what went wrong, right? And if ever there was going to be a solution to some of these anomalies that happened, right? Do you think going to because for the INEC chair to just say it's flippant, like go to court, the president has also come out to give a statement to say that if you have a problem with the way the elections went, go to court. It's almost like, no, we already have those people in our pockets. So go and try your luck. That's that's how we're reading the process. And like you rightly said, you know, it's one thing for you to celebrate a victory now, but what you what you have just done is that you have told the generations to come that they have no business doing anything the right way. Right. That's what they have said. As far as I am concerned, I feel so pained, not even for myself, for my children, for the other children that are growing and they are watching us do what we're doing now. Because what you have said is that Nigeria is a lawless place that even if they set some rules and regulation, don't follow you be fine. It's just like somebody has said before that if you want to steal in this country, still in in hundreds of billions, you understand, don't steal small money because if you steal small money, they will throw in Kiriki. But if you still enough to be able to just bribe every party, you know, whatever you have as change left, you will still be good. That is, you know, so and I see play out and. I don't even know how to express how I feel. I am not about any political party. I'm about the integrity of the process, right? And as far as I'm concerned, I make failed that integrity test. So what would a solution look like for a country where they don't even respect the rules that they wrote? And you're not telling us to go back to those judiciary. How would that play out? So I'm not I'm similarly not convinced that the judiciary is going to do the job that they're supposed to do. I mean, this is the same judiciary where I believe it was in most states when there was there was a there was an election. There was a post-election tribunal before it. And somehow the candidates who came forth in the election was pronounced governor, right? And which has created a never ending crisis for a most state because that governor is an illegitimate governor. He can't govern the state. He doesn't even live in a most state. That state is ungovernable to him. We who are celebrating victory don't seem to understand that Nigeria is going to become an ungovernable space for somebody who imposes himself on it and it's going to be bad for all of us. Now, what the judiciary is supposed to do, obviously, is basically order a revolt, right? Not even a recount, a revolt, right? Because that entire election should be rolled up and thrown into the dustbin. That was absolute nonsense that was done. That was a display of tomfoolery, a show of shame. That's what the judiciary should do. However, we know that the judiciary in Nigeria has not exactly covered itself with glory. This was the same judiciary that I believe it was sent into. I met Lawan, who didn't take part in his party's primaries, who was awarded his party's tickets also by the same judiciary. Nigeria is a place where the judiciary is very multi-partial. The corruption of the country is famed for. If you have enough money or enough influence or enough access, you can get anything you want with the same judiciary. So that's the issue now. So from my mind to my mind, my reading of the situation tells me that there are only two viable options for going forward now. Those two viable options, I can't decide which of them is worse because they are both two very bad options. The first option would be for basically the international community as one to denounce these results. I found it very instructive that, despite INAG having announced this thing as far back as 4 a.m., to the best of my knowledge, no significant country or representative of any country so far has actually congratulated the supposed president-elect to date. I found that very instructive, and that saves the whole lot. If the international community were to come together as one to denounce this election and to state that this is an illegitimate victory and that this needs to be redone, I believe the sheer amount of diplomatic pressure on Nigeria would force Nigeria to do the right thing. However, that's very unlikely because, again, we're just not that important to the world in general. The second option, which I'm not going to mention on live TV, but I'm sure we know what that option is. I don't think anybody wants that either because that would probably end up being worse for everyone in the long run. So all I just like, I cannot see how this can possibly end well. And to my mind, I feel as if the decision to go ahead with an announcement at 4 a.m. Someday, that thing is going to be written about in history books as some sort of inflection points in the modern story of Nigeria and not for good reasons. OK, let's go in the break. Easy, I'll come to you easy and I come to you glowy. Let's just go on a very short break. We'll be right back. Stay with us. All right, thanks for staying with us. Now, if you just tuned in, we're discussing the 2023 general elections and INEC, of course, and we still have with us David, when they remember, you can join the conversation, send us an SMS or WhatsApp to 08-1-803-4663. You can also tweet at us at Wayshaw Africa, one with the hashtag Wayshaw. Easy, over to you. You had a question. All right. Hi, David, my question is let me start with a premise, basically. We have the emotions of Nigerians currently is already running high, basically. And we are all should I say I won't put the word hopeless, but we are close to being hopeless, basically, right now. Look at while saying something about the integrity of the process being compromised, basically by INEC. So let's look at it from the accountability perspective. Do you think that we as Nigerians could actually hold INEC accountable? How do we bring them? Or how do we make INEC accountable for what has happened during the last election? The only way to do that would be for some sort of organic, spontaneous, national, nationwide protest to take place, because at this point, only direct action will work. However, clearly that direct action isn't going to work for a number of reasons, not least of which is that the the popular candidates who, you know, as any anyone who has any sort of understanding of data, I would tell you, should have won the election or did win the election for he had stolen from him. That kind of himself hasn't come out to say anything. So actually issued a statement once there was a declaration of the president-elect. He issued a statement. Yes, but yeah, I mean, he has not come out to say anything substantial or anything that would energize his support base. But David, David, I see now this is where I want to beg the Nigerian youth. We've tried protests in the past. It's not going to work for somebody who doesn't respect the rule of law. They don't have values for human lives. You know, protests doesn't necessarily mean you know, protests doesn't necessarily have to mean direct on street action, protests and even the online. OK, but what I've observed is that the energy has fallen. The energy has definitely flagged. There has been there's been a loss of spirits and a lot of this is down to the fact that the candidate himself has not come out to speak. I mean, I'm not I'm not part of his campaign structure. So I can't speak for him in my own little capacity as a private citizen. I did try to reach out funny enough on Sunday. And what I was basically told was, well, you know, when the results are announced, I'll say something. But so far, that hasn't really materialized, you know, I think. So if there is to be some sort of a reckoning for the independent National Electoral Commission, it will have to come from young Nigerians themselves demanding for this to take place. But that isn't happening. And I can't entirely blame them because you can imagine if for the past year of your life, you've been building up to this event. As you as you mentioned earlier, they struggle to get the PVC. That was that was that was another saga in itself. And millions of people were already were already disenfranchised that way. There was already pre-vote rigging that way because PVC is from certain parts of the country which are strong, which are thought to be strongholds of certain people were not delivered. And then you were seeing PVC is turning up in forests and in drains and getting burnt and also such an elegance. And then the people who got past that that whole, you know, drama and still managed to get hold of the PVC then had to come out on it. First had to find out which, you know, whether the PVC were even valid to vote on the day because in some cases they were transferred to polling units that they weren't even aware of. Some found out on the day of the election, right? They got past that and then on the day of the election, they had to be brave enough to come out knowing that there was going to be violence and thugry and to defend their votes. They still came out. And after all of that, they made sure they voted, right? And they voted and they witted to the end. They thought they were protecting their votes. They saw the results sheets. They were celebrating, right? I was celebrating. We were all celebrating when we saw these results. She's coming in that fight, you know, regardless of whether it's even our preferred candidates or not that is winning. Just the fact of this being an electoral exercise and it being apparently so transparent. And we are actually taking part in this and we are all coming together as a collective. We all felt this sense of ownership of our country for the first time. And then out of nowhere, the old guard comes in and says, you young people think you own this country. No, you don't. We do. And it basically takes it that it was so cartoonish. So I can understand why a large number of the youth population seems to be unwilling to really engage anymore. And the usual suspects from the camp of who have taken over the internet space now and are floating all sorts of kites. OK, the election has come and gone. We all need to move on, blah, blah, blah. I think Kyrie Fahemi came out and said he noted the idea of forming a government of national unity, which is the cruisest thing I've ever seen to an admittance that, hey, we didn't win this election, but let's just try and pacify you. Because that's the best deal on the table. It's also farcical. So to be honest, I think the ball really is in Peter Albee's court. And I mean, if he's watching this, it's not even going to happen. I don't think this election, and guess what, David? And I think it would be nice at this point to correct something. Because people think that this election was about Peter Albee. Trust me, it would have been anybody on that ballot, right? It was never about Peter Albee as a person. Genocide, it was just about Nigerian people expressing what's he called their frustration on the kind of leadership that they've had over the years. So it could have been whoever on that ballot box, nobody cared. It was never about the Peter Albee. It was about Nigerians taking charge of their country back, right? It was not about Peter Albee. But let me come to Gloria and I'll come to you, Jennifer. So, David, I just want to ask, do you think there is possibility of a rerun if the candidates go to court? Do you think there's any possibility of a rerun? There's always a possibility. What we should be worried about is probability. Possibility always exists. But in Nigeria, is it probable? That's what we don't know. Because, as I said, the judiciary hasn't covered itself with glory in the past. So if we're going by past precedents, has the Nigerian judiciary ever stood up to a Nigerian head of state before? Or to a head of state to be before? I don't think that has ever happened before. Certainly not in the Fourth Republic. There's simply no precedent for it here. So if we're going by precedent and also going by the fact that there are people who are currently on the Supreme Court who are quite friendly to the supposed, you know, the purported winner of the election, or the person who was declared winner of the election. So there is everything to suggest that, yes, there will be a court process. And in the face of all the overwhelming evidence that will be presented, because there will be, there is overwhelming evidence that will be presented. I have seen some of this personally in my own two eyes. But in the face of all of this, we know how Nigerian. You know, that process can take four years, though. It can take a couple years. No, actually, it won't. It won't because under the electoral amendment act. How do you follow the law that they were... David, you are sounding like there was a law in this election. They did not follow it. Is it this order when they will follow? It's specified that before May 29, before the swearing-in, any post-election tribunal has to be concluded. It's specified. Was it not specified if the INEC, wait now, was it not specified in the INEC Act that a result must be transmitted at polling units? Was it not specified? It was. Was it not clearly specified that if they don't transmit the result, they are not those elections, or cancel those polling units? To be honest, this is one of those situations where I don't really have anything to say, because it almost sounds like I'm defending INEC and it makes me look really foolish because actually, what you're saying is true. They shifted the go-posts in the middle of the game, so I don't know what to tell you. I get where you're coming from, and I don't think you sound anyhow talking like this, because a lot of people are currently very dejected and sad, and they've just accepted their faith. And then the people who still have a little bit of hope keep saying, oh yeah, we can take it to court. We can rally people up and say, oh, we can accept this result, and something can be done about it, which is totally okay, because people want to believe in something. They want to believe that there is a good somewhere that the government or even the judiciary can do something. They can step in and make a change. They can step in and say something and it will happen. But looking at Nigerian's history, and I mean, looking at this particular election, for example, it's quite shocking. And there are people who have, they just said, you know what, there's no hope anymore, because if something like this can happen in real time on live TV and we can see it happen, then there is no hope, nothing can happen. And honestly, I don't know what we can do as citizens. I don't know where we stand. I don't know what action we need to take, but we can only hope for the best. I mean, I've seen people who have said it saying, okay, I think you need to start putting your japa plans in motion. And honestly, how many people can run and leave their country? I honestly don't want to leave my country because I know how tough it is out there. Even with people who are able to live, we see the lives that they live. Social media just makes it look really interesting and really nice. But the honest truth is that's not the reality of things for a lot of people. People want to come back home. People miss their families. They want to be here. But with the way it is right now, it's like there is no hope anymore. And I'm not lost hopeful. To be honest, I woke up this morning and I heard the news. I just, I wanted to be sad, but I just smiled. And I said, no, I'm not going to lose hope. I mean, we still have up until May 29th. Yeah. Something can be done. Yeah, you know. Let me just debunk a little thing you just said in terms of people saying that there is no other place that they can actually go to. Somebody actually told me in terms of, in the term of Jack Mayen, that he would rather face racism than face what he went through last Saturday again and again, coming from his people. So you can imagine the level of disregard and demoralization in that individual for the system, for INEC, for Nigeria currently. It's abysmal. David. Like doing. David left us. I'm here. Don't leave us. David is pitch-less. So what's the way forward? I don't think people are demoralized. I think it has even further angered people to want to go out at much levels to go out for the governorship seats, right? But again, I've always said to people that if you understand this game is a psychological game. So they would rather sacrifice certain states to get central power because central power in Nigeria is everything, right? But if you had one thing to say, right? Because maybe, I'm seeing some people, I mean, you talked about international communities. Do we really have a chance? Because I've seen petitions flying all over the place. People are saying, oh, let's sign petition against INEC chairman. Do you think, you know, if we want to really hold them by the jugular, those are the kinds of protests that we're looking forward to doing? Or should we just keep quiet and watch this thing play out? So the reason I said that local protests is pretty much the only thing that will have an effect is that the international community isn't going to take any action. Let me be clear about something. They are very well aware of everything that happened on Saturday. And they know that this was a stolen election. They know that Bola Metin would not win that election. They are very well aware. And it will not make any difference to them. They will congratulate him eventually and they will relate to him. They will send their ambassadors to present their credentials to him. And they do it all the time. And the reason they're going to do this is because, and I know this based on a conversation I had with someone from the EU mission to Nigeria a couple of years ago. And I never forgot this conversation because it encapsulated the way that the Western world thinks of Nigeria. So he basically said that, look, because I asked him that in the aftermath of end stars and the massacres that happened, why didn't you guys do anything? Why were you letting Bari fly into your countries freely? There was no pushback whatsoever. You didn't even acknowledge our plight. Those of us who had to flee the country, we just sort of left us in a lurch. What is going on? And what the guy said was, look, our most important priority when engaging with Nigeria is to maintain stability. What we absolutely do not want under any circumstances is two or three million new illegal migrants showing up on the shores of Ampedusa in southern Italy or Greece or the Grand Canary in Spain. That's what the priority is. So if you can maintain stability, i.e., the status quo, then that's fine from the Western point of view. Because if you overwhelm the EU with immigration that it cannot sustain, the EU collapses, that basically alters the entire power balance of the world. Because if the EU collapses, then you have issues with NATO. Then that alters the power balance of the world in favor of Russia and China. The North Korea is in there somewhere. So basically, from their point of view, maintaining Africa as a stable entity is the number one priority. And unfortunately, what their definition of stability means is that if the person who is in charge, regardless of how terrible that person is, as long as that person is able to maintain some semblance of statehood and the state does not completely fail, they consider that to be stability. And if there is anything which might lead to some sort of, maybe something that will shake up the established order, something which might lead to a better outcome, but in the interim, there will be some chaos, they are going to do everything that they can to ensure that that chaos doesn't happen. Up to and including arming the government that wants to shoot down its citizens, they will happily do it. This is what this guy said. So from their point of view now, if there is any sort of engagement with the internet, I've seen people like the former ex-president, Ulicia Gombasangio, who as you know, is very well connected internationally, come out and make this sort of presidential sounding speech, gave a press briefing, released a statement and all of that. And obviously, if you know how these things work and if you know Basangio as an operator, you know that he wasn't speaking to Buhari or speaking to the Nigerian people. He was speaking to the foreign community. That was a performance that he put on. He was signaling that, hey, you guys need to put pressure on these people, but they didn't put any pressure. It didn't work. And from what I can tell, they're not going to do anything because from their point of view, well, you know, Nigerian youth having hit the streets, they are monitoring the situation carefully. But from what you can see, well, it seems like they are going to accept this. Okay, that's fine. We'll manage it. You know, it's not ideal, but we'll manage it because the alternative then from their point of view will be to shake up something that isn't, you know, it's not broken. You want to fix it, you know? So just look at it as it is. So no, they're not going to do anything. So if anyone is going to save us, it will have to be us. How that is going to happen, I don't know. How that is going to happen, we don't know yet. Quickly, let's take comments quickly. Okay, so I have to comment here. The first one says, Tinibu is the INEC officer and the chairman itself. Then the second comment goes, good evening my dear beautiful sisters of what are you saying, hashtag ways. INEC and the 2023 general election. Type in this comment now, I am heartbroken and devastated that someone who does not deserve to win an election is the collect winner. I see it today as Black Wednesday and I don't think I can ever forget today. If this is how our election is being conducted, I am sorry that I may end up not voting on the 11th of March, please know. I want to seize this opportunity to thank the INEC chairman and those that are involved for a successful falsification of results and rigging. They deserve a gold medal and what cup for this. Sister Uwa are my other beautiful sisters in the studio. I am the saddest man on this planet for now. Millions of Nigerians are not happy and this is highly unacceptable. I slept last night and woke up this morning and received this bombshell. My name is Daniel Illo, ways regular fan. Thank you Daniel, go ahead Isi quickly and Lori. All right, my comment goes first, good evening to the ways crew. I congratulate INEC and the president elect on the eventual climax and hope lessons have been learned. His name is Wale Aduroja, Aduroja, yes. Thank you, Lori. This is from James Yoube. He says, I want Labour Party and PDP to urge the international communities to condemn the outcome of the election. And this is from gift of voice. She says, greetings everyone. The current situation in Nigeria is disheartening and disappointing. I agree with your guest that said that the judiciary system is not trustworthy and has zero integrity. I pray for God's intervention and that justice would prevail and reign in Nigeria. David, would have to bring you back because this conversation definitely, the marathon just started. This is not a sprint, it's a marathon. Anyone that understands court cases in Nigeria, you know that it's not a, and that your May 29th to now walk. But hey, we'll just keep it, leave it here, but we'd hope to bring you back, you know, as much as often as we can to just keep the conversation going. And like you rightly said, the morale is dropping, but if we keep the conversation on the table, we would definitely have a good outcome for this. All right, so thank you so much for watching and before we go, and sure, thank you, ladies. Thank you, David. Follow us across all our social media platforms that way so Africa can interact with us further and drop a comment. And more importantly, follow all our engagements on social media, like, share and invite your families and friends to watch and follow the conversation. If you missed our quote today, can I find that quote quickly from Mahatma Gandhi? It says, truth never damages a cause that is just, right? Once there is truth, that cause that is just will be secured, it can never be damaged. So all we're seeking for is integrity and truth in this process of our elections. Everything we do in Nigeria, let's just start to add integrity as an ingredient. We'll see you guys live at 8 p.m. tomorrow. Tomorrow is a time for calling. Some people kept calling the line, tomorrow you can call into the show and we'll take your calls. See you guys, thank you.