 I listened to your talk on YouTube. I think you are talking Ayurveda in a different language. I have read only one Vedasar that is this one. Inner exploration is very important. That is the place where Ayurveda is born. Namaskaram, all of you. Namaskaram. Everybody looks like a bank robber. I don't know who or what. So the Ayur Prana is doing great work in the field of Ayurveda. They create Ayurvedic herbal products. We bring raw material from India, organically grown, no chemical pesticides, no chemical fertilizer. Then we test it here. See that there are no toxic heavy metals, arsenic, mercury, lead. And such a good work. They create churna, which is powder form, siddha talam, medicated oil, siddha gritam, medicated ghee, gutika, vatika, tablet. And why this banyan botanical and Ayur Prana, they are doing very good work in the field of Ayurveda. And so that Ayurveda is becoming quite popular in the western world, both in America, England, Germany. And amazing thing, there is so much hunger for Ayurvedic clinical approach. So I teach them Nadi Pariksha. And in Nadi Pariksha, the basic mandu gati, sarpa gati, lava gati, titra gati, hamsa gati, different gates are there. And with the grace of God, I am a good artist. I draw the picture of the pulse, how it looks. And we are doing webinars. And each Friday, some new subject, new topic, that how to determine prakruti through the pulse, how to do the assessment of vikruti, the present status of the dosha. Then through the pulse, we can understand the manus prakruti, manus vikruti, sabdoshas, pran vyan, vudansamana, all these sabdoshas. And boy, there is so much demand. People love that. And to teach this subject in zooming or on zooming is quite an art. We have two, three cameras where I go near the camera and I just say, this is vatapigam, adya-madya, antya-nadi, adya-nadi, vatam, madya-nadi, pitta, antya-nadi, kafa. And then slowly, the spike under each finger, vatapitta, kafa, vatapitta, kafa. And when we go deep, nigudha-nadi, prakruti pradarshani, uttana-tu vikruti. So muncha-muncha-dhrutva-dhrutva, hold it, hold it, leave it, hold it, and then you will come to that state, that spike. And you have to just pay attention to the kafa spike, pitta spike, vata spike. Under this three finger, how many vata spike, how many pitta spike you get, and based upon that, you can determine your prakruti. The deep level, the seventh level is prakruti. And prakruti is your unique genetic code. It is your blueprint. It is still there pulsating, throbbing under your radial artery. And amazing, people love it. So this work, Ayur Prana, is doing quite a fantastic work in the field of Ayurveda. And a couple of years ago, I was in Coimbatore also. That Dr. Krishnakumarji and Ram Kumar, they invited me to teach Ayurvedic art of... This is a lost art. No school teaches this ancient Vedic art of pulse assessment. And Krishnakumarji, he loved it. He's such a holy person. And they have a big school there in Vaidekaraman. And they do panchakarma there. And there were about 200 Ayurvedic doctors. They come there to receive this art of reading the pulse. It is art, but it is science. And in Ayurveda, science and art can go together. It is just that everything is put through the same microscope today. Correct. So, if you say, I love somebody, they will check your blood and prove to you that you don't. Correct. So, all the subtler aspects of life... Well, see, the... the grosser aspects of life manifest strongly. Studying them is one way. The subtler aspects of life, their manifestation is subtle. Yeah, absolutely. So, for everything, if you say, show me where it is. You cannot... I cannot even show you the air that you breathe. Correct. Nobody can prove that you're alive actually. There is no proof that there is life here. The heart is beating, but time will come when they will make the dead body's heartbeat. Not far away, I'm saying they get out of the blood, they can make it work. So, there is no proof that we are alive either. So, in a way, this... for everything gross physical proof, physical proof will lead to a point where it's already happening, where life is not valuable. Only the structures that we build is valuable. The fundamental life itself is not valuable. We are forgetting everything else that we built, the house that we built is only an accessory to our life. The clothes that we wear is only an accessory to our life. But these things have become bigger than life itself. Absolutely. That's the... So, in a culture and atmosphere like that right now, it needs to get to its peak and go down. Absolutely. Till then, it's hard to convince people about the subtler dimensions. Beginning to happen, but still it's not mainstream. That's beautiful. This is so with Ayurveda, this is so with almost every aspect of it. Every aspect of it. And also, there is a... you know, like we've been running a small manufacturing unit on an experimental level and also producing something to keep it going. So, our work has been last twenty-five years to bring batch integrity to Ayurvedic medicine. It's simply not possible because the leaf that's plucked in the morning and in the afternoon it's different, seasons are different. We found the batch variations, the efficacy variations are up to eighty percent. And if you take any of the top manufacturers, even there it is so. But today people are asking for batch integrity, like a chemical process, where every batch can be the same in a pharmaceutical. In Ayurveda and Siddha, it depends on the season, it depends on the rainfall, it depends on the sunlight. It depends whether you, you know, did the grinding in the morning or evening. You can't do it whichever way you like. So we are doing something very small, very, very small, super effective. But when we try to expand it, it loses itself. So we kept it very, very small. Now there is work going on to build a twelve hundred bed integrated hospital which has both alopathy and this because otherwise I find, see today a whole lot of things are because of proximity of living populations in cities. Most people, as they are suffering chronic ailments, along with that they have parallel infectious issues. If they are not dealt with, Ayurveda can deal with chronic aspects, something that happens within the body. But where, you know, an external invasion has happened, you need some chemical warfare. So trying to bring this thing, we are calling this as integrated health solutions where Siddha, Ayurveda, alopathy, Yunani and naturopathy and yoga all mixed together according to each person mixing it in the right context. It works well but at the same time, today we expect everything to become like a concrete science. This is it, this is it. It doesn't work like that. You have to observe, you have to... You cannot get... You know, right now we are working towards that we can get treated on the Zoom or we can get treated by a phone. Correct. You know, all diagnosis will be done by your phone after some time that's where we are going. That will not be possible because this needs a certain level of observation. Each person responds to these things differently. Above all it takes involvement. Whether health or well-being or spirituality needs involvement. Right now we are trying to do everything without involvement. Correct. Simply, just like that. Everything is systemic, no involvement. Well, all the subtler, more tender aspects of life, beautiful aspects of life will disappear. If there is no involvement, everything is systemic. Absolutely, yeah. That's why this is moving towards integral approach, integrative approach. And even in Arizona, there is integrated medical schools and they are doing research. So what you say is very true because every science has limitation. Allopathy is very good for acute emergency. But once that emergency is over, then Ayurveda can help to take care of chronic element like rheumatoid arthritis or gout or even asitis. In all these disorders, Ayurveda has a good approach. And slowly, slowly, Ayurveda and allopathy can come together. They will come to the mainstream, but it will take time. More holistic approach is definitely needed. Individual doctors, a few of them are doing it. On the larger level, I don't know where it will come together because they are moving in divergent ways. That's also possible. Because the basic thought process of entirely depending upon technology everything is kind of an absolute. Well, health is not an absolute thing. You may be healthy now in the next five minutes you may not be. It just varies. It's the nature of how life happens. So these absolute things about you tested my blood in the morning and everything is fine with me, but I may be dead by the evening. So many people do, I'm saying. So this absolutism needs to go and we need to look at life with a more holistic and a more gentler approach, which needs lots of cultivation and new kind of civilization. When I say a new kind of civilization, right now our idea of civilization is that we dominate everybody and we are civilized. No idea of civilization is there is no need to dominate anyone. That is civilization. That is correct. But unfortunately we think the other way around when Madhma Gandhi was asked by someone what do you think about the western civilization? He said it's a good idea. This not me, it's him. Because we are misunderstanding that we don't dominate civilization. The fundamental of civilization is there is no need to dominate anyone. It doesn't matter somebody is weak, somebody is strong, somebody is young, somebody is old, somebody is male, somebody is female. You don't have to dominate anything, even other life around you. That's civilization. But right now our idea of civilization is putting a stamp, our stamp on everybody's face. Tell us whatever you can speak about Ayurveda. I am an ignorant person of this. Ayurveda is individuals' medicine. Ayurveda treat every individual separately. In modern medicine they do statistical observation what is common in 100 people. Based upon that normality they try to judge the individual. But Ayurveda has a unique approach in the sense pinde-pinde-matiribhinna or pinde-pinde-prakrudribhinna. So Ayurvedic approach is more Prakruti-Vikruti paradigm. Perhaps one person will handle aspirin because he is Kapha. But with the person will be very super sensitive to the aspirin it can create severe reaction. So Ayurveda says that to understand the individual and then treat accordingly based upon his Prakruti, Vikruti, environment, lifestyle all these have great significant value. And I listen to your talk on YouTube I think you are talking Ayurvedic in a different language. So if you say I don't know Ayurvedic because you were a greatness, but you are talking great principles of life which is coming from ancient Vedic wisdom Rupveda and Atharva Veda. So Ayurveda is a way of life living in harmony. I have read only one Veda sir that is this one. That's correct. I didn't read anything else other four I didn't read because I am too illiterate for those. That is Atma Veda. Atma Veda is the mother of all Veda. So I don't have the burden of four Veda sitting on my head. Correct. I respect them, but I just read this and it's kept me busy. Actually Veda is born in the heart of Rishi, you know. They observe it, they saw it and they wrote it. No, that is a thing right now in the world. Yeah. If you say if this happens to me all the time if I say anything they ask where is it written. Right. Then I say you write it man. Because if you have so much value for written word you write it. So this whole thing of the so-called educated and scholarship is if something is valuable it must be written. Not realizing it was written by some human being out of his realization or observation or whatever he saw right there. So it's not that we don't have respect for the written word but we must understand that unless in every generation we produce human beings who are beyond the written word who know from where the written word comes, from what basis then written word will become very dogmatic and become like a dogmatic religion. People will start enforcing it in the few generations forcefully. Then they will say you are pitta so you must be beheaded. I'm saying it'll happen. For all kinds of things people have been beheaded isn't it? For all sorts of things. So it's very important that every generation we create people who understand the basis of the written word. Not just the written word. Correct, correct. Students will understand the written word but there must be somebody who understands the basis of where the written word comes, from what basis. So I think Ayurveda needs to do work on that aspect from Vaidyas who are invested in it completely their life was invested in it. Today they're going to college for four and a half years and becoming Ayurvedic doctors which I feel is not going to work for this kind of science. This is not that kind of science. This needs self-observation beyond anything. How your own system works. If I don't know how mine works, how do I know how yours works? I'm saying right now this is our medical sciences unfortunately. How many doctors are healthy? It's a big question mark. Correct, right. So it's very, very important that there has to be a certain at least a small percentage of people in every generation who know the basis of the written word. Otherwise just the written word will create a dogmatic process that it'll no more be a science, it'll become like religion. Correct, right. What I say is right, if you don't agree to what I say you must either die or you must disappear. This has been the approach unfortunately. So producing those people, people like you with experience in some way you must inspire people not just to become teachers, instructors, practitioners but to imbibe the fundamentals. So that is also the basic concept of Ayurveda to know yourself what you are. Self-knowing is the foundation of life. If I don't know myself, what is my Prakruti? What is my Vikruti? How thinking happens? How reaction comes? How emotion takes place? This whole inner inquiry, inner exploration is very important. That is the place where Ayurveda is born. How will you live long if you don't know how to think and feel? Absolutely. People are thinking themselves to death. They're not working themselves to death. Most of them are thinking themselves to death. Correct. We are really happy in my, I'm from Maharashtra and my mother tongue is Marathi. And in Marathi there is a saying, santa eti gharah, tochi diwali yani dasara means when saintly person like you come home that is really Diwali. And this is Diwali. You said Dasara, right now it's Dasara only. Yes, Dasara. Dasara. Because this Diwali and Dasara the ten doors of perception pancha jnanindriya, pancha karmindriya and all these sensory perception, motor action if we bring harmony in that it is really that Dasara. And Diwali is the festival of light and you are the light and light is within you. So in that way such a highly enlightened Guruji, is here. So it is truly Diwali and Dasara because Dasara brings Diwali. So thank you dear, you have done wonderful thing. I'm from Mysore. I just forgot to bring my elephants. Dasara is a big event in Mysore city. You know it's every year just going and gathering there for the procession and then so many things happening. I must tell you, right from my childhood I have been to many Dasara processions always my parents took us when we were very young, later on we went. Then when I was probably 16, 17 I thought what is there in that procession and we get a holiday, we go somewhere else and all that. One Vijay Dasmi day I got involved with a small orphanage where there were about 40, 42 children were there. These kids, if I just go there to play with them something they would just come and you know the way they hug you with the desperation is unbelievable. Then I asked them, Dasara is there, have you seen the procession? None of them had seen. Some of them were 12 years old many of them were like 4, 5 like this. So I decided to take all of them. I hired a cargo truck you know a small one, small truck like a Matador it used to be called a little one. So I borrowed this from my friend and put these children in the back in the cargo deck with an adult and drove it there and found a nice place for them to see. Oh my God, the way they were excited seeing the Maharaja and the elephant and the horses and the procession and the tabloons, oh my God I can never forget that I just sat there and cried that day because these kids what it meant to them seeing that procession and that's what it is and the moment we grew up and the moment we see a few films and some other entertainment we just forget you know. We were also excited when we were kids but later on you think what is there to see I've seen it so many times but after seeing those children I thought if I'm in Mysore I must go for the procession it doesn't matter what. That's great. There's a lot of jostling, pushing, pulling everything happening. Even these Navaratri the nine days and nights of Durga and every name has a significant value in Ayurveda. Ratmam Shailaputri, Dutiyam Brahmacharni Tritiyam Chandraghandi, Kushma these are the names of the Vanaspati these are the names of the herbs and these nine herbs on those particular days when we make a decoction, tea and take it it will get benefit so that it will bring clarity it will bring health and happiness and amazing it will balance the Tridoshas it will burn the armor, the toxic morbid metabolic waste in the body. So Ayurveda is totally percolated in every so-called ritualistic event. This kind of merge with the culture this is the whole thing medicine was not about one doctor knowing about it it's about everybody knowing what to do about themselves as a part of this we created herbal gardens in over a hundred or a hundred and twenty three villages herbal gardens somebody donated a piece of land and we grow about hundred and eight varieties of herbs and in that village we teach them how to use it anybody can go for their use they can't take it in a bag and go but they can plug for their use. Simple things children have a stomach ache they go to the doctor and stand in a queue somebody has a headache they go there all these things when we were growing up was just handled at home now for everything there is a consultation for everything first of all going and standing in the clinic like you are already sick your stomach is upset you are not sick it's just that body wants to get rid of something you are not sick but in today's terms if you have a little bit of loose tools you are sick if you have a little bit of headache you are sick. So we started this whole thing and still it's going on I mean the village people are maintaining it I would like to ask you a question in the tribal culture in southern India plants are identified as masculine and feminine. In Ayurveda is there such a thing that there are feminine herbs it's very simple it is based upon Shiva Swarova if you take a leaf there is a central that is Shushumna because every leaf has a solar side and lunar side the shiny side is solar it takes solar energy and the rough side is lunar and if you look at the plant the stem and then there are horizontal lines if you count those Sira that is called Sira if it is even number so it is a female tree if it is odd number it is a male tree so male female can be detected through how many horizontal lines are there on the leaf this is amazing very fascinating and Rasa Viriya Vipak of the plant Rasa is the taste Viriya is the energy heating and cooling and Vipak is the post digestive effect and then Prabha Achin ke Viriya Prabha Prabha is the action on Pilupak and Pitharpak Pilupak is happening at an atomic level to the cell membrane and Pitharpak Pithar means parents which is a genetic factor the herb goes up to the genetic factor and to the RNA-DNA level so this is very interesting that male plant and female plant we can detect just by looking at this Siva Swarodara is another wonderful science of Surya Swara, Chandra Swara Ida Pingala, Shushumna and even in every plant there is Ida Pingala Shushumna so Ayurvedic they are talking about male trees, female trees when I came here in Santa Fe I was teaching Ayurvedic in Santa Fe College of Natural Medicine and there were so many here native American herbs chamomile, kampri, angelica even they use krishnakumar which is passion flower and passion flower is good for high blood pressure and there is a hathon berry I studied and I wrote a book with one of my friend and student Dr. David Fradi and we worked together and that book is I know Dr. Fradi we have so we were working together in Santa Fe and that book we have explained Ayurvedic herbs and native Indian American herb and they have incredible healing power but we study them through Ayurvedic basic principles of Rasa, Virya, Vipak and Prava and that book is very popular now here so male and female energy shiva, shakti, purush, prakruti, yin, yang idha, pingala it is there in the plant so how I evolved this herbal treatments among the Navajo people for example how evolved is their treatments of herbal these are Navajo people they do the pestle and mortal and they collect the herb and they grind it and make a decoction make a juice or make a tea, herbal tea but they have very spiritual ceremony and then they make a fire ceremony and they bring the herb and they use the herb so their approach is very spiritual and along the same line there is a great spirituality in Ayurveda also because they are calling their whatever I don't know religious or spiritual leaders as medicine men how far is the medicine going yeah medicine men they are doing that work and in a group healing they are doing also in a tent they make a fire ceremony and the medicine man comes there is a pipe ceremony they smoke some herbs and they get intoxicated it is like peyote something like that and it is so spiritual but then it become very square because they don't have the logic how it works and Ayurveda has a logic plus Ayurveda has satvam atma sharir ancha both no Ayurveda is from a tropical nation tropical land where there are hundreds of herbs here it's very limited so that's why I know they have that spiritual side helicogenesis side all that but in terms of actual medicine how many herbs are there is it reasonably substantial you are right because in India we have 3000 more than that here may be couple of 100 herbs then the herbs here are limited but we have plenty of herbs even triphala is such a great herb it cannot grow here some herbs there triphala is becoming world wide wonderful herb and it is a best for balancing vata, harita ki controls vata, amala ki, pitta, bibhida ki kappa so this triphala itself is a rasayan and triphala itself is an antioxidant enzyme it removes free radical and it gives longevity of life so it is a rasayanum so there are that much herbs may not be here definitely not there except in a tropical nation it is not available even among tropical climates probably nowhere else there are as many herbs as there are in India for whatever reason I have not found a logical or a scientific reason for this but a handful of soil in southern India has over 10,000 species of microbes and other things in a handful of soil nowhere else on the planet it is like that why it is like that what made it that way I don't think anybody has made a study as to why it is so but the fact is it is so so that much microorganism naturally produces that much variety of life the people have forgotten that how we are is very related to the number of plant life the variety of plant life there is variety of animal life the variety of insect, worm life and microbes that are around us how rich it is that's how rich our life is that's how evolved and complex and sophisticated our life becomes that's completely forgotten everybody is thinking if you eat so much protein this everything is going to be okay okay well you may grow your muscle and be there but all the subtleties of life may disappear from your life so in that context there is very limited amount of herbs here but I'm sure traditional people somehow should have managed their health with that even in Ayurveda they use the shuranga basma the harina shuranga and the after certain year the antler drop out and that muruga shuranga is used for cardiac complication for disease like arthritis, rheumatism so then thought came why it is so medicinal so then they realize that the deer eat weeping willows bark, weeping willows leaves and that weeping willows is the natural source of aspirin then they found nowadays they are using aspirin to prevent heart attack it is a blood thinner it is anti-inflammatory but in Ayurveda they are using harina shuranga basma and we can use muruga sundra lepa to the external joint and that will act as anti-inflammatory it will relieve the swelling, pain and inflammation much under control right now everywhere videos are going around on the whats happened everything in the social media that every day if you touch a cow hug a cow do this you will get mental and emotional balance absolutely yeah and that is a special cow about brahmin cow which has hump and they say that brahmin cow hump has a shushumana nadi that goes to her udder and that absorbs solar energy and that ghee prepared out of Indian cow doesn't increase cholesterol that's the beauty of it but western cow who has a flat back it is like modified buffalo yeah and this they have big udder and that milk from the western cow is rich in cholesterol and person can get heart attack so the Indian I would like to ask you one thing right now in Kerala people are claiming and we don't know how much of it is true but I know some of it is true people have preserved ghee in the earth they buried it in the earth and kept it for over 100 years it seems this ghee has tremendous healing absolutely possibilities can you say yeah yeah that is called shatah shatah means 100 years shatah varshah shatah sammatsaram means the ghee is buried in a clay pot into the soil 100 years because when ghee is staying in the soil for 100 years that much long time some molecular changes happen within the ghee and that ghee is rich in ojas it is rich in tejas and it is rich in prana because ultimately the pure essence of vatha dosha is prana pure essence of pitta is tejas and kafa is ojas and at cellular level ojas tejas prana they maintain cellular metabolic activity, cellular intelligence and flow of communication prana is a flow of communication so at cellular level in tejas prana they are operating and enhancing the cellular life so this 100 years old ghee puran gritham is the best medicine for eczema psoriasis even if you take internally it can heal peptic ulcer, ulcerative colitis IBS, irritable bowel syndrome many disorders even autoimmune diseases this puran gritham is sreshtam, ojas karamparam promotes ojas is there any parallel in the medical sciences for tejas and ojas, prana are the beginning to recognize kanpa very good question prana is your neuroelectrical impulse your neuroelectricity but tejas is nothing but certain kind of amino acid they work at the level of cell membrane at the level of RNA they are tejas and ojas is the immune system so ojas tejas prana these are three important factors they maintain the life of a single cell the single cell can live longer and that's the beauty but there is no parallel one thing is there when liver destroys the old red blood cell and out of destruction of RBC the hemoglobin comes out and the hem is separated and globin part is ojas in the liver that's why doctors give gamma globulin short to prevent hepatitis so that globulin is a very special protein may be resembling to the ojas tejas is amino acid liver enzyme because liver is a seat of phybotagny every ether, air, fire, water earth has a agni component nabasa agni the agni component of space vayave agni the agni component of air which really absorbs the gaseous exchange happen because of that tejo agni which is responsible for cellular metabolic activity and apo agni which maintain plasma serum and partipo agni is a mineral calcium, magnesium, zinc so exactly when we study modern medicine and Ayurveda concurrently and inherently then we will understand which part is proud which part is tejas and which part is ojas the yogic sciences generally ojas is seen as a non-physical dimension of energy if you because everything physical has come from the non-physical if you create a cocoon of non-physical dimension of energy cocoon does not mean like this on the cellular level every cell has a little bit of non-physical dimension of wrap around itself that cell will continuously regenerate itself at a pace that is considered miraculous well your recovery from anything injury or any element will be like that first of all you don't get sick enough to be called sick depending on how violently you live when I say how violently see you are living a nice peaceful life I live a violent life I am on full speed on a motorcycle so my life is seven days of the week 365 days there is no day, there is no night sometimes it's 24 hours work it's 18-20 hours of work it's a violent life but still I have not cancelled a single event because I am not well such a thing has not happened in the last 39 years a certain amount of just kind of puts you back always it doesn't matter it's not that I have not been unwell well I caught flu, I caught this, I caught that many times but no matter what's happening I can still continue my activity so if what you said kind of interests me that OJAS is that kind of energy which is not physical in nature but if you are incubated in that always, if every cell is incubated in that always you are recovery or your ability to be beyond what physical things do to you I always say that OJAS can be measured on physical level in physical term as OJOSAR then tejas can be measured then there is a PARA OJAS and APAR OJAS so PARA is superior superior OJAS is so that a drop AASHTA BINDVATAKAM OJAS the a drop of superfine OJAS that comes to the heart and that stimulates pacemaker SA node then it stimulates to the AV node and to the bundle of his all cardiac activity are governed by that superior OJAS then inferior OJAS are the ANJALI which is half-pined and that is circulating throughout the body to maintain immunological response but there is a SHAKTI ROOP OJAS that become ARA so if you do meditation you are in Samadhi then that your OJAS become PARA OJAS PARA OJAS become ARA and that HELLO that ARA is nothing but OJAS but the color of the ARA is tejas and pulsation of ARA, vibration of ARA is PRAAN even at the ORIG level OJAS tejas PRAAN are operating in a certain SHAKTI form but in a physical form there is OJOPRAKRUTI and Ayurveda says the person with attractive eyes and very charming personality when he comes there is a whole vibration I look like a blind man so that is called so you fall into that category your PRAKRUTI is OJOPRAKRUTI so OJAS is a physical thing OJAS can be psychological thing which is bliss, joy, happiness and OJAS can be spiritual thing which is Samadhi so Ayurveda talks about these aspects I have always been so engaged with life I have never had the patience to study anything I am just absolutely involved with life inside and life outside correct so I never sat down and made a study of anything so you must tell us you have spent a lifetime of study I think your whole life is a study even you are a drug addict still you are observing you are learning there is no end to the study no end to the learning learning is at every moment and that is your humbleness you say I have no time but you are always in that process so just now yesterday night some journalist was asking me when you are riding what are you thinking about are you doing this I said not just when I am riding at any time I am not thinking about anything because this whole this is a European disease that has caught the whole world it's a pandemic that people think human thought is more significant than human attention human attention if it is keen enough intense enough and sustained absolutely human thought is just a recycling of what you already know but somewhere our education systems borrowed from European systems has inculcated in everybody that your thought is more important than your attention attention to creator's creation is more important than the nonsense that you make up in your head but everybody thinks you must be thinking something intelligent person well I don't think much that's why my face didn't become long with age people you know we lose their joy and they become like this they think they become serious about it well I think seriousness is the worst ailment because it's such a joke that you are here just for a few years before you thousands of years people have lived here when you're gone maybe the grass will be grateful because it's getting sustenance from you because you buried under me otherwise everybody will forget in a little bit of time and world will be fine without you but everybody thinks that they have become so important in this universe that they become very serious silly little thoughts that they're creating have become bigger than the cosmos I don't know for me life is about attention how keenly attentive you are is how much you know of life because everything that needs to be created is already created you just have to be attentive and enjoy the bounty of life that's here but people are trying to make up their own little world their idea of a world is one stupid building that they call as home and so much bank balance and four wheels parked in front of their house which is shinier than the neighbors wheels I mean this is the idea of creation when there is a magnificent creation all over so this creation of my job, my family, my this this keeps them busy and away from the creator's creation which is the worst thing that can happen to you absolutely so either way if it has to become the way of the world not necessarily in the form that it's come from India it can happen in so many different ways the fundamentals are right how it finds expression in different societies could be different if it has to happen first and foremost thing that needs to happen is that there must be a significance for the creation above your own creation correct till then I don't think people will take to Ayurveda everybody is looking for a quick fix of some kind correct and people are doing integration of Ayurveda and equipments Ayurveda and chiropractic Ayurveda and naturopath and Ayurveda and alopath because Ayurveda is all inclusive and it it doesn't mean that it belong to India it can belong to anywhere sir you are getting me into trouble when I said I said if you know I spoken in the United Nations and I said if yoga is Hindu, gravity must be Christian so even now the people who think they are more Hindu than me are hitting me everyday because they think I gave up yoga they don't understand if it has to become universal its identity has to rise right when first I came people saying oh this is a Hindu medicine I said no no Ayurveda is not only Hindu medicine it is for every religion how can science be a cultural or a religious identity cannot be so goes for Ayurveda so goes for yoga unless we understand this then we will keep it cloistered as we have done for thousands of years why Ayurveda has not become the universal system of medicine when it was one of the oldest forms of medicine with such complexity over 100,000 formulations right even modern pharmacopoeia doesn't have 100,000 formulations absolutely but it doesn't become because a constipated approach you have not stepped out and offered so yesterday some journalist was asking me because everyday they are there on social media asking me all kinds of questions I was standing next to an antique Coca-Cola vending machine an old one which is not in use right now I was in Sairona and I was telling this person let's see if you go to any Indian village ten years ago everybody had heard the word Coca-Cola but most people did not know what is yoga Indian villages I am talking about not native American Indian Indian villages our kind of India I am saying why is it simply because you are constipated in your approach if we try to push it you say oh you are marketing if all our programs are free in the villages but we charge in the cities oh your business Ray what's wrong with business I am saying business means somebody needs something and you decide to provide that to them if there is no transaction you can't keep it going how long will you keep it going it is not about personal profit it is about making sure the activity is sustainable isn't it if I run I did this first two and a half years when I thought after one big experience happened I wanted to share this first two and a half years I had done business for about five five and a half years by then first two and a half years I spent and did programs and programs free programs then I ran out of money then I went through a struggle what to do should I collect money not collect money because always there is a tradition that you know spiritual process you should not collect money then I saw when the fools come to program without money they are behaving like they have gone to a cheap cinema halfway through they want to get up go out smoke and come back the moment you charge them they sit there then it has a value see the unfortunate reality they make a commitment I will be here for this ten days or whatever but their word has no value the moment they pay one five thousand rupees they will sit there so whose problem is it yours or mine money is not my problem it is your problem so now we are trying to change that it is the most valuable thing should be well marketed correct right whether it is spirituality yoga ayurveda, siddha it must be well marketed presented in a way that people will appreciate and embrace not in some archaic way that nobody wants to do it your idea of spirituality is nobody should do it alright some weird thing you want to say some yogi who is some in some cave in Himalayas only does yoga nobody else does it because you presented it that way it is very important it is presented if it's well presented you call it marketing I don't say anything wrong with marketing it must be marketed if that's a word you like we will use that word yes let's market it well let's sell it well I never think in my mind of selling anything but now everybody is saying oh this is market this is business no I am particularly consciously using the word sell yes I will sell yoga it's up to you they are selling cocoa also carbon dioxide they are selling you want to buy that or you want to buy this make up your mind because your market is in your head what can I do the only place that you go to is a market place do you go to any other place hello the only place people want to go to is a market place isn't it shopping yes so if that is the only place you go that is the only place I can also be unfortunately but my mind is not market but I am okay whichever way it works in the world I am alright with it because I live in the times that I live I don't live at another time and be impractical about it you know people like one day I am in Chennai I had to speak in some conference he is in a hotel and somebody is driving and this man is a very civilized driver he is unfit to be in Chennai I am saying he is driving slowly behind somebody I said just stop it I made him get down I got into the driver seat and I did some aggressive driving went there because I made this commitment I will be never late to any event then now after this some terror attacks on things in every hotel in India there is a security check at the gate it's a meaningless nonsense most of the time they are just thinking the terrorist will get scared there is just one tiny little barrier gate if I have bombs loaded in my car I will drive through a damn gate anyway alright that guy doesn't have a gun that guy is not standing with a bazooka to stop me nothing he is just standing with one mirror and one whistle what is he going to stop a terrorist because it's a law they have all put up two two guys there so one car went and the gate was up and I burst through that because I am going to be late they all started whistling I went and parked there got out of the car ran into the hotel I was there on time I finished my conference and I came out after an hour the journalists were there when I ran in the way I blasted into the I entered the portigo maybe at fifty sixty kilometers per hour then when I came out this guy is asking in ancient times yogis used to walk you drive your own car what kind of a yogi are you then I said you idiot in ancient times everybody was walking not just yogis I am saying you have this kind of things if I must come walking I must from Coimbatore to Chennai if I come walking I become a yogi no I become a walker yeah I mean these kind of restrictions we put on ourselves and not reaching valuable sciences to the world can we losing it beautiful it's time Ayurveda yoga all these very precious sciences must reach the maximum number of people correct it's a very good thing that our prime minister pushed for it and now international yoga day has been declared it is not going to achieve everything that we want but at least it's in the consciousness of the world that yoga is legal absolutely in this group Ayurprana Mitesh Bhai come on yeah they have so much dedication so much love and they think like you they think that we should bring Ayurveda to the front so that the whole world will listen to it so this is quite a work it's a big team work and as you say this is an inspiration coming from your heart and they are already doing this work thank you give them big hand it's amazing it's good is New Mexico made marihuana legal not yet I have no idea is it no not yet I'm saying marihuana alcohol became legal marihuana became legal cocaine will become legal time we make yoga and Ayurveda legal thank you sir I don't want to take too much of your time