 And like both, I mean, I'll be honest I'm pretty much sold on Toyota because those things have lasted and there have been no major issues other than like, you know You've replaced all the consumables the oil the shocks the battery, you know I like my Honda same thing. I feel like I never had to do anything to them It's such a weird feeling because you know, I've I've owned a Volvo. I had that truck had that stupid Lincoln mark 7 Well, granted my dad bought it used and it wasn't an accident you could see where the frame that cut and then I mean I mean, the best car that I ever had By far was my sob 9-5. Yeah, I loved that car The only reason I'm not still driving it was because it was totaled in an accident. No Yeah, sob 9-5 that you ever had it really what like I love but at this point sob is like well I get another one because now your parts are really expensive and it's weird, but I loved that car I think anybody who has a 9-5 would or had would agree with me That was a great ride Come on and take a great ride Yeah, you know, it's it's weird because like it's it's one of those things is it's not just the initial cost of the cars The life cost Yeah, I'm plus so and sure and the thing that really bugs me is moving down here. My insurance went up 200 bucks a year Moving moving across town my insurance went up really. Yeah Echo Park because they figured I'd be on freeways more Yeah Yeah, my insurance I didn't go up by that much but it went up and I was like There's more dangerous to drive a car around here, I guess and then I looked around and I was like, yeah, probably Just more other bad drivers around you That stuff is determined based on accident rates, and you know, it's all based on numbers It's not somebody looking around and deciding what they think My are you just has a lot of people driving expensive cars all these I think a lot of people in my new neighborhood drive farther to work Than in my neighborhood and so that's sure probably it But I look around and I'm like people start driving better Bring my rates down. Come on. Just yeah, and I have all the discounts. I have the good driver discount Yeah, I got old man discount. You don't have an old man discount. Yeah, what's that what you reach a certain age? 25 I don't think to get a discount if you're as you get older they raise your Eyes are going you're going to be more of a Natureland it goes down, but then you start to get older When you when you hit your late 50s it goes up again. Yeah. Yeah, that's the old man not discount You pay more listen you pay more To drive drive, but you get to Denny Denny's and they give you a deal You make it up on coffee rushing your discounts get docked in certain areas All right through and others. I want to ask Sarah to read today's Open but then I realize I don't really really know how to properly pronounce this person's name Okay, all right, okay good good awesome. That's all that okay if you're feel confident then Yeah, I mean bad Competence is key Tom so true so true All right. Um, do you say check? Here we go three two Hey, no pool has supported independent tech news directly for five years be like Hano Become a DTNS member at patreon.com slash DTNS Folks you have reached the daily tech news for Wednesday, January 23rd 2019 in Los Angeles. I'm Tom Merritt and from studio feline I am Sarah Lane from Salt Lake City, Utah. I'm Scott Johnson and from a sunny LA County I'm the show's producer Roger chain. We I've got some phone trends to talk about and decide if they're last gasps or new Frontiers for the cell phone industry, but let's start with a few tech things you should know Viacom is buying the ad-supported Pluto TV and plans to put shows from MTV Nickelodeon and Comedy Central as well as movies from Paramount on it Pluto says that it has 12 million viewers 7.5 million of whom watch on a TV Nice never even heard of it the latest update to Microsoft's edge browser for Android and iOS adds alerts for unreliable websites from NewsGuard all right now all you got to do is toggle it on or off in your settings and Went on 90% and 98% rather of online news sites will show a red or green icon for reliability in the address bar you can tap on the icon for more information per site and IBM's cloud business grew 12% in 2018 as IBM shifts to cloud analytic to I'm sorry cloud analytics cyber security and AI as its focus IBM beat earnings expectations in Q4 and profit forecast for 2019 came in above Expectations as well the revenue declined that it didn't even decline as much as people thought it would so all pretty rosy for Gene Arama to you over there Let's talk robots Scott. Let's do it. Let's talk Amazon robots In fact Amazon announced it is to now joining the world of delivery robots led by companies like Starship Neuro Kiwi among others yesterday Starship announced it was expanding its robot delivery service to George Mason University in Virginia and today Amazon introduced Scout a six-wheeled robot similar to the other delivery robots a pilot program for Scout We'll start with six robots total accompanied by Amazon employees in the Schnoemish, Washington area No Famous as the location for the high school that was used in Twin Peaks Firewalk with me the movie You were just saying it backwards that's I was trying to avoid you say it three times and Well, so for anybody who's like well wait a second I thought Amazon was already working with like drones and you know How do these robots differ when it comes down to the consumer getting their goods? Amazon is behind the curve here, right? Their robot looks just like all the other robots They've got robotics in their warehouse and that may be what a lot of people think but they don't have robots on the streets The way Starship and Neuro and Kiwi and a bunch of others have been doing so Amazon I Wouldn't give them credit this time They didn't try to make it sound like they're the only people doing this like they did with drone delivery Where actual companies have been doing drone delivery for years now and Amazon still isn't this one? They said hey, you know what? We're gonna try this out. We're gonna put it in Snohomish We're a little they didn't say it but they're a little bit behind You know because they're gonna have to have people out there walking on a lot of these Starship ones are just monitored remotely now because they're trustworthy but Amazon could quickly pass all of these first mover advantage companies because who doesn't Faster by robot Do this right they pull this off right? They'll just lap them like this could be a big boon for them But I'm looking at this thing it does look like the other robots number one number two It just looks like a weird little garbage can on wheels like yeah all these fears about what a teenager could do to this thing And I know it's really hardened to being beaten up and they're monitored The Amazon ones are gonna have a person right next to them, but even the Starship ones are monitored Sure. Yeah, it's just I can't get it out of my head when these things happen drones Whatever everyone says oh, we're gonna bring it right to your thing with a robot I'm like, I know like a pack of kids up the road. They're gonna destroy that freaking thing They can also destroy the UPS driver if they really want to do I mean It's not the robot that incites violence It is crazy that we're living in a world where we're talking about how Amazon is late to the game of robot delivery Sure. Yeah. Yeah, and and how we think teenagers might pick it apart All right, let's move on to a few stories from cord cutting land I'll run through a few of them Hulu announced it'll lower its ad supported subscription plan from 799 per month These are US dollars to 599 per month starting on February 26th The ad-free sub will stay at 1199 per month But Hulu live TV will rise to 44 99 from the current 39 99 per month DVR and expanded multi-screen viewing packages are dropping from 999 2 999 rather from 14 99 per month probably because a lot of people used it in the same vein YouTube TV added 95 markets in the US and says that it is now available to 98% of The country and hopes to reach the other 2% shortly more than 90% of its markets have local affiliates from the top four broadcasters and if you listen to all this stuff and you say, oh man It's a little tedious to stand up of all these price changes and what companies are doing There's a startup called suppose TV You may or may not have heard of which has a tool to let you compare different services based on channel selection and Price among other parameters a new feature called TV service alerts will email you when your TV services change their prices Or their channel lineup or their features and the company just launched a new API to give access to its live TV database and recommendation engine Yeah, so it's like we had the Netflix price rise now. We have a Hulu price stretch, you know one Rise and drop it's yeah, it's like they And and I love that suppose TV had good timing to say hey if you're getting tired of figuring out Who's raising their prices and whether it's worth it? We're gonna make it even easier because we've talked about it on court killers before suppose TV is a great tool for Figuring out if which plans have the channels that are most important to you But you don't want to have to keep going back to that so having this email alert that'll send it to you and say hey You know what? You stop thinking stop worrying about it and Scott I'm curious what you think about this stop with the the package fatigue We'll just tell you when the next cool thing is so that you don't have to fret about it No, I like that a lot because I'm not a surprised about it or beef I like to line up one of those awful calls where I have to call in and go you guys did a bunch of stuff this year I didn't know about and so I want to cancel and then you got to fight over All the great new deals are gonna give me now to keep you and and then you start wondering Well, if you had that deal in the first place Why don't you give me that to start with instead of this other bad deal like I hate that whole loop of Community with my providers. So I do like this idea a lot I'm a big fan of services in general that ping you and let you know when something you're using changes I'm glad that it's a sort of a third-party thing and I don't have to rely on Some network or some, you know service like Netflix to do the reminding I'd like to be reminded by these guys So I think that stuff is great The name though, am I supposed to say suppose TV like you'd say suppose TV like it's supposed to be I think I think yeah that they probably aren't mad at that Comparison someone says is this a cool service and they go well, it's supposed to be Which is just the name of it. Yeah. Well, it is what we call it I'm I've been calling it suppose dot TV so that I remember the URL because it's a dot TV URL but Yeah, I also would like to make some feature requests to suppose dot TV for the future because I like where they're going here with automatic alerts What if I am allowed to log in and authorize you if I trust you to just? Cancel services that I'm not using anymore, right? If you're like you ping me. I'm like, hey You do you still have stars, you know because there there are services out here that do that too So it'd be cool if they just started helping me keep track of what I'm subscribed to Not just when the price Changes for yeah, I wouldn't mind it if they I could authorize them to cancel that stars thing I added on to something that I didn't mean to keep and you know past whatever show I wanted to see I mean, that's a weird thing giving them rights to do that sort of thing But I'd like that idea more than me having to go figure it out. So yeah, do everything for me Suppose TV. Yeah, or even get to a questionnaire instead of having to pick channels like what kind of what kind of stuff do you watch? What do you want? Alphabet's Google disclosed Tuesday that it spent twenty one point one million dollars lobbying the US government in 2018 That's more than its previous high of eighteen point two two million all the way back in 2012 Facebook also disclosed that it spent twelve point six two million in 2018 That's its highest yet up from eleven point five one million in 2017 So just last year Amazon spent fourteen point one million dollars its most yet up from the thirteen million dollars it spent last year Microsoft spent nine point five two million so quite a bit less than these other companies and also not its greatest amount yet That was ten point five million in 2013 Apple spent six point six two million even less and that's down from its high of seven point one five million last year Reuters says Google is among the top lobbyist spenders in the entire country each year alongside defense contractors healthcare providers and Cable operators, you know the people lobbying your government the most our defense health care cable TV and Google Can I can I say a controversial thing and then you can just shoot it down if I'm totally wrong on this my assumption here? And you and I it may not even be possible to say whether I'm wrong It seems to me the ones that have up to their budget and are at their highest level Facebook Google companies like that are the most Invested and affected by any goings up or down of net neutrality slash FCC control over the internet that sort of stuff while these other companies Microsoft Apple while services are a big deal and while you know internet traffic is a big deal for them They're less that's less of a focus for them So it just seems to me that that's why they're higher and the others are lower. Am I wrong to to think that you think I? Don't know. I don't know if you're wrong to think that or not I'm curious what people think it does it does tend to look to me like the companies that feel like they have the most to fear from regulation Are also the companies you are most likely to see spending money You know what I'm saying. Yeah. Yeah, no, I think you're right. Sorry. I got distracted But slack for a second Yeah, like if if if I'm alphabet aka Google and all the things I do I Probably have a lot of stuff that I need to have continue happening and want to do in the future that is going to require the ear of people in Places of power that can make those decisions for this country and they probably I don't know this because it's insane there But I'll bet they spend a good amount of money internationally as well I Don't know how that works in say Parliament or other places But I'm sure that that's they'd like the ear of those lawmakers as well And it doesn't surprise me at all whereas Apple's like me Just want to sell a lot of phones and hardware and ear pods and stuff Well, you know Apple it's not like they don't have the problems with the FBI, right? They have a lot of problems with law enforcement and they come under all kinds of patent lawsuits from Qualcomm and places like that But they're less under the gun outside of the cryptography debate For privacy issues and privacy issues and advertising of the hot ticket And if you look at this Facebook Amazon Google, they're all Advertisers even Amazon make it more and more money off advertising these days Microsoft not so much They make some on advertising, but they make less and they spend less and Apple doesn't really make hardly anything off Advertising you have a little bit in the App Store, and that's it and they're at the bottom of this pile So you could it's correlation. I don't know if it's causation, but you could definitely correlate those together I'm terrible correlation causation guy. I'm bad at it. Like I tend to Conflate the two all the time I think that's a known thing of me and Tom's always been a really great kind of counter to that But what you say about ads hadn't even occurred to me, of course, this has a lot to do with ads It must it must have to do with ads Because why wouldn't it? You know late they need to know I mean there's constantly things like ah, is this fair to advertise this way or do this on a website? Shouldn't shouldn't Google not be allowed to mirror like that's always happening and being discussed So of course they're spending more money to try to get their point across. Oh Hey, it's my turn. Yes, it is. Sorry We got the good I guess we got the echo fixed and sorry for everybody was wondering why Scott was distracted by slag It was actually a production slack thing and we were trying to figure something out But I think it's good now anyway Google announced that its G Suite users will be transitioned from the hangouts app to hangouts chat Starting in October of 2019 hangouts chat has a more slack like feature set and is already available for G Suite users Consumers will continue to be able to use hangouts app through Google X Sorry, though Google expects to announce a transition to free chat and meet at a later date Now if you are like me, that's a lot of names to keep track of How does hangouts change it's a very confusing Google has been so good at being confusing about this For years now the problem is that they named everything hangouts, right? They had a problem they had a product called hangouts And then they started to split that product up and kept calling it hangouts And so we'd all say like oh you use hangouts. I heard hangouts is going away Well, not that hangouts that hangouts is over here They even changed Google talk to be hangouts even though it wasn't hangouts or the original hangouts Which is now hangouts on air or hangouts meet and it How could anyone be expected to keep this all straight, but hangouts is not going away It is also going away because everything's called hangouts So when people panic about hangouts is going away, who knows what they're panicking about could be nothing could be something But if I can try to boil it down what Google seems to be doing if I've made sense of this is replacing the chat app With another chat app and they're going to do it for enterprise users first in October And then they're going to do it later for consumers So if you're a consumer and you use the chat app called hangouts, don't worry about it It's going to be at least After October before you're going to have to worry about switching to a new app and Google hasn't even said how they're going to make that Transition if you're on G Suite then you should probably download hangouts chat now Which is what that app is called hangouts chat And and start slide signing up for it That's their slack like alternative because that's what you're going to get transitioned to in October. Yeah Yeah, all this makes sense. They're just really bad at this whole name thing I remember when docks and drive got combined and there was some confusion around that like women Yeah, go to docks still for but it's drive now and that means what their files in there I never know what to call the instant messaging inside Gmail I know is technically hangouts Hangouts, yeah, no one knows what I'm talking about if I say G talk people who are older Using it for a while antiquated. Yeah, but new users are like, what's G talk? I never heard about that. So yeah Well folks if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes Don't forget. We have another show. We have much further shows We have monthly video game briefing with Scott Johnson and Patrick Bezio once a month for the mainstream gamer We have daily tech headlines keeping you up to date Monday through Friday with rich straffolino, sarah lane and myself at daily tech headlines Let's talk phone trends. We got three new phone trends It's a month from Mobile World Congress and the phone companies are starting to try to get on the agenda They're leaking out a little information to say hey reporters when you get to Barcelona and a month be sure to pay attention to us First one, I'm gonna give you three and then we can discuss which we think are actual trends and which we think are Just last-ditch efforts or maybe all three or both Meizu announced its new zero phone. No ports No buttons. That's what the zero refers to no holes Office zero apertures No holes no SIM card slots no charging port It does have a camera bump on the back and and it does appear to have some slight holes for the microphone on it So maybe it's not zero holes, but it's 5.9 inch an OLED screen Small bezel on the front for your front-facing camera at the screen contains the fingerprint reader and the speaker So it's not like it doesn't have a speaker. It's just in the screen. They claim an 18 watt wireless charging apparatus so that's quite a bit faster than Samsung or Apple and haptic virtual side buttons So you still have volume buttons on the side. They're just not actually buttons. They also didn't announce a price release date Now that's number one number two Xiaomi released a video on Weibo of its engineering model of a foldable phone foldable We know as a big category Xiaomi's phone is a tablet form that folds on both sides Underneath the middle section to create the phone form factor again. This is just an engineering model third LG published a video promoting its Mobile World Congress press event showing a hand swiping above a piece of paper to reveal the message goodbye touch Implying just your control just your control smartphones have been around for years Samsung's had it for five years But it hasn't really caught on yet LG's announcement is scheduled for February 24th at Mobile World Congress So Sarah Scott lay it on me Which of these is is going to revolutionize the phone market and which of these is just a Desperate attempt to revitalize sales, you know, I have to say that the May zoo zero phone Just in the sense that it is you know, I made a joke earlier like oh wireless office But I do like the idea of it. I think most people do, you know, how many Chargers and ports and blah blah blah. Do you want no in a perfect world? We don't need any of these things But in the in the in the modern world that we live in we still do need them So any phone that can do everything I want it to do and yes You've got a headphone port because I guess it would be really hard to to to sell a phone of this caliber and say like well Everything's got to be a Bluetooth wireless But for going in that direction, I think that's the direction that all phones are going to go in. There's no headphone jack on this thing Yeah, there's nothing. Well, I thought it said that there was no speaker. There's a speaker in the screen. That's it. Yep For a microphone not a headphone jack, you know what I like this phone even more now I Do I do I mean I and I understand that a lot of people would be like well But you know, I you know, I have all these things and you know What am I gonna do with all this stuff that I've been using for my previous phones and that's the whole garbage dump? Yeah, exactly that that you have to deal with individually, but I am down for a Frictionless phone experience. Here's the negative though. You have to carry that wireless charger with you Like this thing in anywhere. There's no charging like you had to carry the chargers with you anyway We're the battery And and like plug it in with the yet the airport with the USB thing at the jack Not that I ever do that because I don't trust it, but theoretically people do that. So I mean, what do you think I Getting rid of you know, like all of this stuff is like the less of this the better I kind of agree with you and I actually think that's I think it's even apples thinking and they want as little of that as possible. Let's go face ID Let's not have phone jacks anymore on the iPad pros. At least this model. Let's not even have a lightning jack Let's just go with some, you know USB-C can that thing and everybody can figure out what they want to connect into it A lot of people complain about it But I do think the future is a little less holes in your device and little less things to have to plug in I'm worried about However, that wireless charger last time I checked anyway for any of these phones I have one over here about the size of your phone itself with a cable connected to it big taking that on a plane kind of sucks Um, I don't know like that's the only hang-up. I'd have the rest of it audio Speakers built into the screen is kind of cool. I like virtual buttons on things like all of that stuff is fine I think this is too far ahead of its time I think this actually will be what phones will look like down the road As this becomes more and more pervasive and and you don't worry and and wireless charging becomes pervasive enough That it is also at the airport in places like that I think foldable is probably the one that's least likely to catch on out of all of this though Maybe I may be wrong if somebody cracks The the form factor so that it really feels like a thin phone in your hand when it's folded up I really want this to work, but I don't see it working yet Uh, just your control is the wild card for me It hasn't caught on yet But lg seems to think it's got the thing and I could see if it's done right The ability to not even have to touch your phone to be able to just do You know certain moves to to dismiss notifications or call up Uh, you know your camera or something I guess if you have the camera you want it in your hand But I I could see that possibly potentially being a differentiator that people think is cool I do I do think that you mentioned form factor and that's going to matter a lot for a foldable phone and Uh, the the word the wise words of kenny rogers comes to mind. You've got to know when to fold it. Well When I fold mine, it'll be when it's not nine inches thick when you fold it and So you're not you're not going to gamble on one of the first models. No, I'm not I really am not But I do love the idea of a I don't even think of it as a tablet It's just a bigger screen for a while when you're in a certain way of using it You're like, oh, I need to use the phone clamp. Boom. I'm on the phone It's a very very cool idea. But until that stuff gets thin And so when you when you've folded it, it's no thicker than current modern day phones Then you've probably got me gesture control. I don't know that that ever takes off to be honest That one's probably the least interesting to me and I don't I I base that I'm purely just total gut instinct I'm probably wrong But the idea of me just looking at a phone and doing this and swiping my hand left and right seems ridiculous And and and extra work actually versus just doing it with my thumb on the screen Well people who have their thumb on the screen and maybe do not are people on our subreddit because you Stretch the world wide over thanks to everybody who participates in our subreddit You can submit stories and vote on other stories make a friend while you're at it daily tech news show reddit.com We're also on facebook same idea facebook.com Slash groups slash daily tech news show and now let's check in with chris christensen We've missed you the amateur traveler sharing the dangers of having a social media lead vacation This is chris christensen from amateur traveler with another tech in travel minute You talked last week here on the daily tech news show about People being banned from youtube by doing stupid things and recording it The same thing has been happening on cruise ships and royal caribbean is none too happy A man jumped off an 11th floor balcony into the ocean 100 feet below so his friends could film it on instagram He was drunk. Do you think? They got 157 thousand views on instagram But they also got banned for life and royal caribbean is considering legal action Yeah, don't do that. I'm chris christensen from amateur traveler. It feels like it doesn't need saying Apparently it needs saying Is as popular as this will be please don't do this You might die Uh, thank you chris christensen. Let's check out the mailbags there. Let's do it steve a patreon supporter says There are two principles underpinning Singapore's ai framework because we talk a lot on the show about how different countries are dealing with ai technology and and and and how to combat some of the potential issues Steve says one of that is decisions made by or with the help of ai in singapore are explainable Transparent and fair to consumers. The second is that ai solutions are human centric Singapore is working to be one of the jurisdictions with sound approaches to data management and the governance of ai as well as other frontier technologies If today is a slow news day It would be an interesting discussion As if that were true steve, but yeah, and steve actually linked us to a really interesting Article in the straits times which is Singapore centric for a little more information about this Yeah, so I do feel like this is interesting because Singapore Is always trying to make itself Into a technological hub But it is also a a an authoritarian might might be way to put it government You know, it's it's it's strict in its laws It had people have freedoms there, but they don't have all the freedoms that you might have and and so you know, they're always trying to walk that balance between encouraging innovation and And keeping an orderly populace and this this feels like they're almost the best to do this Like okay ai can do all kinds of things and we want it to do all kinds of things But we want to limit what it it's bad effects could do So maybe Singapore is the great place to start this conversation Uh, and and I can't say that I disagree with at least the way he put it in his email Uh, steve says the decisions have to be what it was it uh explainable, right? If an ai makes a decision says you're denied for insurance You should be able to explain why it shouldn't be like I don't know the algorithm said it, right? Transparent so that you know like this is somebody can go in and audit Maybe it's not me, but somebody who knows ai can go in and go wait. How are you conducting this? How does the ai work and it should be fair to consumers? Which is you know almost tautological to the rest of it, but but says hey It's not denying people for reasons that are not that are not okay I'm using insurance as an example, but that should apply to everything. Yeah Good example though. That's one that you know, yeah, that's one. I always think of sure Steve thank you so much for the feedback and the Recommended reading for the rest of us, which we will do and also thanks to scott johnson for being with us This fine hump day afternoon scott. Where can people keep up with the rest of your work? 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I know Wow You guys are the best They're number one literally number number one Look ma no ports. Oh, I like it. I like that one. That's good Look ma no ports. No ports. No holes. No buttons. No charging I'll also have to say while while we're thinking of the um Well, we'll do the topic topic of the show first. No. No, I was I think look ma no ports wins But mezu shuts its hole did make me laugh. It's pretty funny Uh, I'm looking through to see if there's any other I I I prefer to look ma Yeah, if I if I if I have to choose. Oh, but um, but no what I wanted to say was a lot of folks You did uh emails back at feedback at daily tech news show dot com but also I got some dms on twitter and like even a couple on instagram and some uh, uh personal emails From folks with wireless earbud suggestions for me We really did um and I just want to thank everybody for going the extra mile to to get a hold of me and let me know I got um Quite a few thumbs up for anchor The anchor earbuds, but I also um, which one was it? I've got it pulled up here somewhere I also I was sort of I mean of all of my feedback I got Oh, I think it was No, it was the one that wire cutter said was its Top model Anyway, people really care about the wireless earbuds that they wear for variety of reasons I got some sports people marathon runners people who are like, hey, I've got weird ears. They don't fit that well So um, and I have all of those problems. So I just really appreciate everybody's feedback And I'm gonna do a little bit of a deep dive and try some stuff out and then let you know Yeah, I I liked uh, I like The idea of you getting you know collecting the The suggestions implementing one of those and reporting back like all right. We tried it out. Exactly. Yeah So So what what was what else do we need? Anybody else need anything? What do I need? I just got a heat an air filter for my heat. Oh the Jabra's that's what I that's the one that I was For getting the name of the Jabra's people love the Jabra elite Is it those aren't the can ones right the ones that look like um No, they're in ear. Yeah, they're they're they're a little I've got some little suckers Found them. So these Jabra I forget what they're called Oh, anyone's looking for over the years style Okay, expensive and incredible sound and also wire cutters pick Hmm for this style. Anyway, they're Jabra crap. Hold on. Why aren't you wearing them right now brand name? Um, I could use them here actually, but they're mostly wireless. So I use them with my uh, when I jog and stuff Oh, I see but they have incredible sound and um This you don't believe sound It's only like 60 bucks or something. I think and uh, the purely 100 wireless They have all the like phone functionality stuff pause answer phones volume up and down all that junk Um, and I can't find the name. That's fantastic. It's not really on the Can you ask it? Is it smart enough like Jabra? What are you? Uh, I don't think it is Jabba tell me your feature set But your model number now I feel like it's dummy because I'm giving a bad recommendation. I'm gonna find it You should they should do a Star Wars edition called Jabra the hut Jabra the hut It could be a little soundproof room with all the audio around you And then if you don't hang out any time through in hutties Well, every time it'll just kind of chuck let you go I thought I was listening to Halsey's latest track, but instead I'm just hearing Oh Here it is Jabra move. It's called and uh, I've got a red pair. I have a I have a One or two Uh, let's see 63 38 on amazon totally worth it. These have been amazing for me highly This made me wonder something though. I'm gonna try something live I'm gonna mute myself so that I don't do it to everyone who happens to be playing this out loud What model are you? I are you supposed to mean She's giving me definition of the verb model who is who is the echo Who is a very tall wafie person? I That was about the verb not even the noun the verb The verb model to show when you Please see Madonna's folk video Uh, because I said what model are you right? I would think it would be like I am the echo Show plus or whatever it is, you know Shouldn't it do that it should do that. Oh, it didn't do that It should that's dumb. It should So look monoports correct look monoports. Yep. There are a lot of things that um My amazon assistant does not get where I'm like, you're better than this Come on This was easy. Oh my god softball I just asked google what the same question Uh, and it wants to make me read which super model are you a buzz feed quit? All right. All right, we've done two of the three. I think you're a terlington scott. Yeah Yeah, I think so. Uh, what's her first name? Christy christy terlington. Okay. I would just stay home and stare at myself. I'm serene said. I'm not sure I understand Really? At least he was on at least he was on at least it's honest in this one case One time you get it right Oh goodness, what model are you? I'm not sure I can understand. Yeah, because you're dumb She's like, I don't think this is a question that you know, I can answer So this is you know Frank and pants Imagine if she was like, I don't want to offend you, but you are not a model Is she just she doesn't know what to say what if she started crying after you said she was I Tell me When you break when you when you break the assistant and the assistant is just like Sobbing I gotta get another go That's what ai really gets good. I yelled at my echo the other day I yelled at my echo and said told it to shut up because it was getting something wrong So I just I went a word shut up and my daughter was mad at me Hit me in the arms. She goes, you shouldn't do that. I go. What do you mean polite? It's a robot. She goes, I know but You never know. It's just not nice habit to get into because someday the robots will be upset at you for this Right because your instinct would be like maybe to do that to a human, which is probably where your daughter was coming By the way, old guy in our discord Spelled look mono ports look mono ports It's too clever. Yeah, it's too clever to use on the on the actual title, but it's very good Applauded. Yes. Applause to uh old guy for that one. That was a limited audience. Yeah, good work. Look mono ports Good. Look mon no ports Or monkey ports because mono is Spanish for monkey Is it? It is yeah, I did not know that What do you think od are you a little mono that last weekend? Mono I need more monkeys. I got a pig on a leash not enough Where I'll tell you I'm really excited about doing my little test drive thing You know when you get like to the point where you're like, okay, I'm going to get a new car Yeah, it's kind of annoying kind of a hassle, but now I'm sort of excited about it Yeah, it's making me think I don't know every time I start looking at a car. I'm just like I'm going to get a white Ford Focus That's what I end up with because I'm just like I want something nondescript. No one no notices it on the road It's safe. I sort of suspect I'm going to uh end up with a Honda fit because I actually really like them Well, the fits are cool and they last yeah They're and they're like they've got a pretty good back seat Because I I got a dog. I want to be able to put the seats down. I like the um, I like the the I like everything about it and they're you know, not a super expensive car It's actually probably the right car for me Yeah, I kind of test drive some other stuff first just very the fits are very Uh across the board you're speaking my language because I'm like tom. I don't want I don't need anything fancy. I'm not trying to show anything off I don't anybody to look at me and go. Oh, look at that guy. I just know Not at all functionality Usability I wanted to last for a long time. I want to keep its value Like you can't go wrong with I mean Honda fits are basically what I just described. They're really yeah Yeah, and I you know, I'm a little because I've been spoiled by modern vehicles. It's like, you know, there's you know Lane change assist and and you know navigation and there's certain things where I'm like, well I do really want that on the next car But you don't have to have some big luxury car to have that anymore And so much of that can go through car play And that's the that's the kind of dirty little secret in the in the car building industry Is that a lot of those things lane assist those are component add-ons that you bolt on to your existing Or not existing but you bolt on to a car design. So it's not like it's integral When they design it in other words, you don't need to go from a blank sheet of paper to To put all that stuff in there. It's like a backup cameras Right, you just need to run a tiny camera somewhere above your license plate and run the cord up to the dash All that stuff any lock breaks I'll miss my cassette player and my William Yeah And my really last time you ran a tape through that thing last time I put anything in that particular device was when the see the ox Jack that Brian Cooley installed in 2005 in that car stopped working briefly and I used the cassette to ox jack adapter For this short period of time until I figured out what was wrong with the other ox jack So It's been a solid 10 years Oh, no, that was actually, um About I don't know 10 months ago. No Oh, I see it was 2005 that you've got that 2005 is when Cooley put the ox jack in Okay, all right, see that video about how to install an ox jack in your car in 2005 and he used my car and said Company paid for this for this video. I'm gonna leave it be harder to take it out than leave it in here It's yours and so I've been using that ever since but it stopped working briefly and I figured out what it was It was a battery issue And and once I figured that out Uh, it wasn't even a bad was that was disconnected to the because it draws power from the car's battery. Anyway Um, I once I figured that out. I stopped but for the brief period I I wanted to hear music in that car before I figured it out. I was using the cassette adapter That was like march Yeah One's the last time we actually ran a cassette though like an actual cassette. I don't know if I ever I don't know if I've ever Right, yeah, because the car is you know that even before Cooley put the ox jack in I was using the cassette adapter for plugging in my ipod Right and my wife has one of those. It's an ipod jack interstitial car stereo Only interface. Oh, yeah, this this thing that Cooley put in has the old uh connector The pre lightning connector In white one, yeah Yeah, yeah that one has that and it has a usb. I could just stick a usb in it And it'll just play mp3s off a usb Nice, I never use either of those. I just I just use the ox jack You know, I I I may have mentioned to you guys or maybe not. Um, that um, I used to be a serious satellite radio subscriber and You were a serious serious Very serious about it. Uh, yeah serious xm And you know, it's the sort of thing that you get as a bundle with cars sometimes and then you know, I ran out and I was like Oh, I actually really liked my serious stations, but you know, whatever so a friend of mine She has I don't know the same kind of a deal and and her her trial period is up and she was like I mean, I have to get it. I mean, how could you live without serious? And I was like I mean, why don't you just use Spotify? Because I I particularly use apple music, but she uses Spotify and I know that and she was like Yeah, but I mean, but how would I like play that to my car? I was like via bluetooth and she was like Bing I'm like, yeah, you don't need rate. Like if you want terrestrial radio, it's free whatever go nuts because I do that too But don't pay for premium radio If you if you can connect your cell phone to your car If you have serious xm, you likely have bluetooth. No No, she does. She she just never really thought about the idea that like, oh my Spotify playlist could just be played through my car I'm like, yeah, it's really easy It's like a like a very easy Yeah, because well because I don't know people, you know get um, this is the reason that radio is still Like it is about radio. Who listens to radio? I'm like you'd be surprised Millennials listen to radio in large numbers. Oh, yeah, and I think because it's friction-free just like play a station I know there's commercials you change something. I really knows how to use bluetooth But every once in a while the bluetooth acts up or the or her apple music or spotify acts up And she's like, you know, it's screwed. I'm just gonna listen to the radio because it's there and it works Well, I also so kcrw is a radio station in the los angeles area Which is an npr affiliate but also has a lot of kind of local Cool up-and-coming artists that are featured it's great station And I listen to that for weeks at a time, you know every once in a while I'll be like, ah, whatever this is, you know is annoying me and that I'll switch over to my phone But yeah, it's I mean it's It's also public radio So you're not getting a lot of the commercials that are very annoying with other stations, but it's great Yeah, we don't even when I'm playing like amazon music We're playing apple music through an echo or whatever it is. We're doing in the house It's very rare that we're like play this particular playlist We're going you know play 70s rock and roll and basically I'm just Permanent station that just plays all the time. Yeah, I use my echo to play today's hits That's all I ever that's all I ever do because I did you do that today? I did. Yeah What what what was today's hit It's Ariana Grande seven rings and Halsey and post Malone and post Malone with sway the the sunflower song Gotta tell you I love that post Malone Hit after hit I mean the the sunflower totally different vibe than wow and they're like almost back to back on that one. I like his uh, I like his um Uh his rock stars Yeah rock star song is really good. Anyway, here's with tom. I wanted pictures you sitting in front of it going uh a word Please play the hit of today I will explain more about the situation for the audio listeners video listeners. That's all you get Thanks for watching though audio folks stick around