 Welcome to our viewers around the world, I'm Albert Lewitton at the I-24 News Headquarters in Tel Aviv. An update on the war against Hamas Day 38. Here are some five things you need to know. Another tank missile into Israel. This is number one. Towards civilian town of Netouah, however the town has been desolate. The facts are still coming in, but here's what we know. It landed again in Netouah, it's a civilian area in the upper Galilee that's been cleared out. There are reports of some injuries, we don't have an exact number. Hezbollah has today launched 18 missiles and martyrs. Anyone who is in the north has been told to shelter in place and right now the IDF is attacking the source of these missiles. It's not sure which group fired the missile, we'll have a live report as soon as we can establish contact with our reporter there. Number two, the world seems focused on the Al-Shifa Hospital in Gaza. The IDF released video showing troops dropping off 300 liters of fuel, but the IDF says the fuel was rejected by the CEO of the hospital. There's no word on what happened to the fuel, but it's expected now to be in the hand of Hamas. The IDF and the American intelligence say that Hamas has built a command complex under the hospital and that the IDF has now also set up a pathway for civilians to safely leave the hospital. Number three, in a different area of the Middle East, the United States has struck Iranian facilities in eastern Syria. There are reports that six Iranian proxy fighters are dead. Those facilities used by Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps and groups affiliated by it are used by and linked to dozens of attacks against American troops in neighboring Iraq. There have been 46 attacks against American troops. Number four, the IDF confirmed for the first time that the arrow interception system has been used in this war. It was put into service way ahead of schedule to intercept missiles that Yemeni Houthi rebels launched against Israel. It is a long-range missile. It was used in the outer reaches of the atmosphere. So now for the first time in world history, there has been combat in space. So now let's first now go here in our studio. We're doing live team coverage. I'm joined now here in studio by Colonel Grisha Yakobovic. Thanks so much, Grisha, for joining us for your analysis ahead of time. A lot moving, especially now with this new anti-tank missile that was launched from Lebanon. What is the message that Hezbollah is now trying to send to us? Well, I was sure yesterday that we reached a certain level of escalation that the Israeli inside was supposed to take a decision to open the northern front. I think some pressure from maybe from the United States, maybe from other Western allies stopped Israel from doing that. And I think that today we'll return again to the equation that Hezbollah has created since the beginning of the war. It means Hezbollah continues attacking IDF targets, as he refers to. For example, the 14 civilians that were injured yesterday in Dovev, they considered them as the soldiers. Whether or not they were, they're civilians. They were civilians from the IEC, the Israeli electricity company. I think one of them is still missing, but they were civilians. But the moment that they are declaring that for them it was a military target, it means even if they reached to the highest, let's say, peak of escalation yesterday and Israel was supposed to take action and start and to open the front, they returned back to the equation of we as Hezbollah continue playing around with you. It's haunting. It's like it's like a teasing in this playground. It's a ping-pong. It's a game and it fits to the declaration of Nasrallah while he announced that he is helping his brothers in Gaza, although it's weird. You know, Shia, Sunnah, it's an issue there, but he's keeping busy. Three Israeli divisions. So instead of three Israeli divisions that focus on Gaza, he is playing. Let's say he's playing with them. OK, so he's stretching the idea. On the other hand, Hamas, the resistance, as he says, in Lebanon are the ones that are joining their brothers in Gaza, Hamas. And they are the ones who are launching the missiles, the rockets, the motoshoes, for example, 18 motoshoes blended in Arab Al-Aramshe. And they, as they, as it was said, in open areas, OK, it means it's undirect, OK, if it was Hezbollah, it will probably very, very directed missiles that will hit the target. And as long as it's in open area and not in urban cities, it means it's something else. It's not us. Right. So what I see and how the day, OK, we are talking about early in the day. So early in the day, nobody knows what would happen in the evening. But as for now, Hamas and Israel continue holding the equation of Hezbollah and the idea of who will continue the ping-pong this game. And Israeli will target some targets, military targets, OK, of Hezbollah. And Israel has a green line to attack any Hamas or any resistance action in Lebanon. Gush, I'm going to have you stand by for one second. We've made contact now with our correspondent in North, right by the Lebanese border, this Mary Makallaf. She's joining us live now from northern Israel. Mary, talk to us a little bit about this latest attack. That's right, Ebers. We have a number of injured from this anti-tank missile attack in the Arab Al-Aramshe area. We don't have any confirmation yet from the IDF about the injuries that took place in this attack. But there were one, there were mortars fired in the Arab Al-Aramshe area. The IDF said that those landed in open areas and didn't cause any damage. But in the same similar area, we also had that anti-tank missile attack, which is what is said to have caused those injuries among those who were there in that area very near the border area. And also just moments ago, inside Lebanon reports coming out that there's another anti-tank missile attack that was fired at the Manara area inside Israel. Again, we're still waiting to hear details about what exactly that strike was. Hezbollah for its part did claim credit for the anti-tank missile attack, claiming amongst them that they did cause injuries and successes by hitting Israeli soldiers. It remains unconfirmed exactly what transpired there, what that attack was. But it's a series of a number of different anti-tank missiles from throughout the past few days. So Mary, the missile landed, as Grisha was telling us, the missile landed in Netwa, which is basically, it's been cleared out. So it seems that what they were doing was trying to hit some Israeli military sites within the proper Israel proper. Absolutely, and that's what we've seen from Hezbollah, really over the course of the past few weeks. Of course, we've seen rockets continue to be fired at communities in northern Israel, most of which are evacuated, but not all. We have had injuries. We've also had deaths among Israeli civilians in the past few weeks from these attacks coming from Hezbollah. But the majority of the attacks that we have seen coming from southern Lebanon have been these anti-tank missile attacks, which have been fired mostly at IDF areas or IDF positions along the border. But what we saw yesterday when there was an anti-tank attack, Hezbollah claiming that they hit a number of Israeli soldiers who were working on surveillance equipment at the time. In reality, of course, those were actually workers at the time who were working as part of an electric company to try and repair power lines that were damaged from a previous strike by Hezbollah. So we do continue them seeing primarily targeting these military areas and civilians occasionally getting caught in the crossfires. But of course, the danger of these rocket fires do continue. Yesterday, we had a volley of rockets fired from inside southern Lebanon. But that attack was claimed by the Lebanese branch of Hamas. Now, the residents who may have still stayed in the area, they've been told to shelter in place. Who's staying behind? For the most part, most of those who are staying in these kaboots and these Moshevim, these very small communities, those who are lying within the border, so within that four kilometer range of where all residents are supposed to be evacuated, most of them are part of the Kitakono Nuts. So it's part of the private security belonging just mostly people who live inside the residents of the kaboots or the Moshev, who then themselves stay to guard the kaboots. So they're staying as sort of a secondary private civilian force who can do rapid response. That's the majority of those who are staying and also those who are just staying to run the logistics and the essentials and to keep these communities up and running. But for the vast majority of these communities, they have mostly been evacuated. Just very small numbers who are remaining here and those who are saying they are remaining to try and defend their communities from these attacks. And Mary, just so you know, just while you were speaking, I got a notice in my ear that there are two confirmed injured, there's one moderate and one light injuries. And we'll come back to you more at the top of the next hour with more details as to what's happened here. Mary McCall have joined us live at the northern end of Israel on the Lebanese border. Thanks so much for joining us. Grisha Yokobovich, let me come back to you on, now let's move down to the Gaza for a second. There's the, I'll see if a hospital, you can't go on social media without the pro-Pasidian pro-Hamasic people saying, oh, they're attacking the hospital. So the hospital is the epicenter of genocide. It doesn't sound like there's no attacks at the hospital. There are no bombings at the hospital. Let's just add to what you've said as expected. OK, as expected. As expected. Now, why is that? We see that the idea is actually surrounding the Gaza city. It's not only Shifa. You need to understand that Shifa is located at the center of the city Gaza. Around Shifa, we have what I would call and say this is the Hamas Dahya, like in the root, around Shifa. So first of all, the idea circled, entered, and cleaned all the headquarters, all the, let's say, offices, if I may say so, headquarters around Shifa. I think that the idea would publish it, all the materials that were found, all the weapons and training manuals, everything is there. I think it will be exposed in the following days. But it's not only Shifa. It's the idea surrounds something like four hospitals in Gaza. We have the Indonesian in the area of Jibalia. We have Rantisi Hospital near Sheikh Radwan. We have Shifa. And we have the Quds in Tel-Hawa in the south. So actually the idea surrounds four hospitals, big ones, inside the center of the Gaza Strip, the Gaza City. Okay. What symbols, the regime, what symbols Hamas's abilities as an entity. But let's ask ourselves, why only the hospitals? Is it something that we have, I don't know, a wishful thinking that we wanna visit hospitals in Gaza? No, we know. The idea knows that Hamas headquarters are located under those civilian facilities. And this is a cynical use to purposely, of course, purpose, this is all planned in advance and a cynical use of hospitals that are operated by money given by the international community, okay? Countries like the EU, countries like the United States, country, the UN, okay? They are all donating money to the Palestinian Authority, right? Now some of the Palestinian Authority budget is actually what's operate some of the hospitals. Hamas also get money by other donors like Qatar, for example, not the Western countries, but you have other NGOs that do donate money, okay? To operate all this health system in Gaza. What about UNRWA? Let's not forget that, they are also a player in that. And Hamas decided to locate all the headquarters, warehouses, maybe Israelis that were kidnapped are also held there. And that's why the idea surrounds all the hospitals. Now I know Hamas knew that, that the moment the IDF will do that, he will use it as a- That's what we saw two weeks ago when there was a missile that went- Yes, you're talking about the Lahli Ma'amadani. Right, right. And it was found out as a lie. Right, but I'm saying that the PR, the propaganda use of the hospital is the most important thing. For the West, okay? For the West. And for the people who support Palestine, Palestinian, okay, and from the Arab world. When they see, for example, now there is a message outside and we will see that, like it will be like a snowball, okay? That outside of Shifa on the parking there are 100 bodies, another 60 inside and another 50 held somewhere inside. And they will try and show it to the world. And why is that? Why Shifa has become a campaign, okay? To do what? To expose our, it's like to make monsters out of the IDF or they're trying to hide something, okay? So Shifa will be an issue. And the moment the IDF will be able to enter and to show the world that this is actually a Hamas headquarter, then everybody will realize what is the cynical use that Hamas is using. I'm gonna have your hope for one second because now I wanna turn to a different theater of action here that this is the area of eastern Syria, the United States striking some targets in Syria. I'm joined right now by Professor Uzzi Rabi. He's the director of the Moshe Dayan Center for Middle East Studies at Tel Aviv University. He's also the senior researcher at the Center for Iranian Studies at Tel Aviv University. Thanks again for joining me, Professor Uzzi. So let's talk about these depots, if you will. It seems like the Americans shot down, shot into these warehouses. But it seems as though what it basically did is there's a great clip from the West Wing, which was a true story about Clinton yelling at the National Security Adviser saying, how do I, this is ridiculous. I'm gonna, I had people hurt and I'm just gonna basically take their lunch. So was this basically just that, that it's just a little slap on the wrist? Well, I mean, I think that we are in a super slow because this is just, we do talk now business because we do talk about the arms of the octopus, so to speak. Iran actually is orchestrating something by which to fund the flame until or till a certain level. They don't want to have an all out war, but basically this is what's going on. Look at what's going on in Lebanon with Nasrallah. And now Syria is coming to perform. Israel, rightly, created sort of an equation by which to say if Hezbollah is going to cross a red line, Israel is going actually to go for Lebanon. The same is being signed with regard to Syria these days, but here's the thing, the Americans are here. They are getting kind of a blow here and there, minor blows from the Iranian militias in Iraq, Iranian militias in the east of Syria. And basically what the Americans are trying to do is to just send another message to Tehran, to have a second thought before it could be too late. We are in a very sensitive and delicate juncture. It is well known. And this is why I think the Americans are coming up with that. It is kind of a way by which actually to deter Iran mainly, and then the Iranian militias that are to be found in both Iraq and Syria, because if Iran is going actually to push them on and urge them into the seam line of Syria and Lebanon and Israel, this would be something that would result in a regional war. And this is definitely what the Americans would like to prevent. Yeah, you mentioned the fact that it's delicate dance that they're doing. Let me, regarding those overnight U.S. strikes in Syria, Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin, he left open the possibility of more strikes. Let's listen to a little bit of what he said yesterday. These attacks must stop, and if they don't stop, then we won't hesitate to do what's necessary again to protect our troops. These strikes are intended to disrupt and degrade the freedom of action and capabilities of these groups, which are directly responsible for attacks on U.S. forces in Iraq and Syria. So Uzi, it sounds like he's trying to basically say, hey, don't cross that line. But at some point, the U.S. is also going to say, wait, you got to stop. I think that this is the problem with the, you know, what we call the Gaza theater, because it is not definitely not Israel versus Hamas. It is much more than that. What you see here is some ramifications, regional ramifications. I did say that there are some global ones, but basically this is where the crux of matters lies. This is exactly what the United States would like to do, to make Iran be keenly aware of the combustible nature of things in both Iraq, Syria, and mainly Lebanon. And this is, in my opinion, I'm just trying to echo actually the things that were said by the Secretary, but basically this is something that we have to make sure actually everybody is well aware of. If Syria is becoming kind of an arena of war for all means and proposal, this could be definitely in no time be turned into the arena of miscalculations what the Americans is trying to do. It's not only to send, tell on a message, but to make sure that actually this miscalculation is not going to be seen here. And then we are in this slippery slope all the way to what we call regional war. Who's talking to the Iranians if we're not? If the US is not, if Israel is not, who's talking to them? I think that they are being advised by both the Chinese to some extent Russia. I mean, this is becoming kind of sort of a global war. Ukraine is definitely well connected to that. And this has been evident in Joe Biden's speech. As President Joe Biden's speech, in my opinion, you can definitely actually go to the map of the Middle East and beyond. And you're gonna get two- But give me one country in the West that's talking. Give me one question in one country of the West, Sweden. That would be European states. That would be European states. Those who are having kind of a very, very deep commercial and economic actually relations with Iran, the Germany could be a very good option. I wouldn't rule out the possibility of France, but basically Iran doesn't need that advice. They know definitely when America talks and when America means business, they would know what not to do. I can assure you that because these guys are very cunning and very true. They are not going actually to waste their energy for nothing. As long as they are using their Arab servants, so to speak, what we call proxies, this is definitely goes in line with the Iranian interests. But when Tehran is on the thread, and this is why I think that the Americans should speak with kind of in a more blunt way, the Iranians I'm pretty sure would get the message, but we'll have to wait and see how actually cards are going to be played out here. Uzur Rabi, always a pleasure to have you on with your analysis. Thanks very much, Professor Uzur Rabi, the Director of Moshe Dayan Center at the Middle East Studies at Tel Aviv University. Now let me go to our Piyash Tachaba, who is at the southern end of Israel at the border with Gaza. Piyad, tell us what's happening where you are. Well, all but throughout the morning, we have seen an intensified military activity here, especially in the northern part of the Gaza Strip. We do here see into Bed Hanun and Bed Lahia, which are neighborhoods where Israel has called upon the civilians to evacuate right when the ground offensive started. Of course, we do know that the fighting is now focused on especially hospitals in the central part of the Gaza Strip. The Israeli ground troops are also present in Gaza City, where also the biggest hospital is located, the Ashifa Hospital. It is encircled by the F troops. And we do know that the Israeli military believes that there is a Hamas Commander Center. In fact, the biggest one, a major Hamas Commander Center, located in the tunnel system underneath that hospital. Now the WHO, the World Health Organization, has described the situation inside the hospital as a dire, as we do know that this hospital is running out of fuel and out of water. It is not functioning anymore. In fact, more than 20 out of the more than 30 hospitals in the Gaza Strip are said to be not functioning right now. We do hear about babies dying in incubators because there's just simply no fuel anymore. Now the Israeli military has said that it tried to supply that hospital with 300 liters of fuel. But it said that Hamas printed the hospital stuff from actually accepting that fuel. Now the hospital director of Ashifa said that none of those negotiations have taken place and that 300 liters are far from enough for supplying a hospital of that size as well. So the humanitarian situation seems to deteriorate as the fighting, and you can possibly also hear the Israeli artillery that we've been hearing really throughout the morning here. Israeli planes in the sky is really artillery to Gaza and also machine gun fire in Gaza. As you can see also smoke arising in the background here in the northern part of the Gaza Strip where the fighting seems to really intensify this morning. This is where the Israeli military is calling upon residents to leave to make their way south. Now we do know that there is an unknown and undefined number of residents still remaining in that northern part. For several reasons, people who say that they just simply they're injured, they're wounded, they are old, they cannot make that way. They have families, they have children, and many also think that the south is not safe as well as also the southern part of the Gaza Strip has come under heavy bombardment. Nonetheless, the Israeli military constantly reiterates its call to the civilians to evacuate to the southern part of the Strip. It wants to open the humanitarian corridor that people can also exit the Ashifa Hospital. However, reports on the ground suggest that these corridors come under attack. Either Hamas, Israel says it's come under attack by Hamas who's trying to prevent those civilians from evacuating institutions such as hospitals to continue and use them as human shields. The situation on the ground seems to be very, very dire. This is also what humanitarian aid organizations are confirming, especially when we talk about those hospitals who are expected, which are expected to come into the focus of fighting in recent, in the upcoming days, as again, Israel is believing that Hamas is especially using those hospitals as command centers underground. Great, Pierre Schachabacher, the southern part of Israel at border with Gaza. Thanks so much for joining us. Let me go back to Grisha Yakubovich for just a one second. What do you say to those who are saying, listen, if you're left behind, if you're still in Gaza right now, even after you've been given the passage to go, you ate the candy on October the 7th, all bets are off. Well, it's not just been given, it's still going on. Just imagine the reality. In urban city, one of the most crowded cities in the world, with terror organizations, Nakhba terrorist, that we've seen what they did October 7th, butchered 1,400 Israelis, hiding in or among civil population, and the idea surrounds the city, the hospitals, and there are two humanitarian options that people can still, under fire, leave the northern part of the Gaza Strip. Now, I want to see one example in the world, one example that a military of any Western country would behave the same way, under fire, under attacks, fighting terror from underground, and dealing with humanitarian issues, delicate issues, like how to help babies, how to bring the diesel, how to open humanitarian passages to people. It wasn't like that in Mosul, it wasn't like that in Kabul, it wasn't like that. Nowhere, it's not nowhere. And I think that this lesson of how a Western modern military behaves in such an environment must be studied. That studied or changed. So here's the question for you. We're playing by the rules, right? The Israelis are playing by the rules. We are trying to play by the rules. We're trying to play by the rules. They're not playing by the rules, right? Do we have to play by the rules? When you say by the rules, there are two rules here, okay, two mechanism of rules. We are playing or we are trying to play according to the Western rules. It means do whatever you can to help civilians, do whatever you can to save people, do whatever you can to help and to provide aid to people that even if there are people of your enemy, the other part plays according to different set of rules. Use the people as human shield. Use the people to- Ango, Mali, name Africa, all through America, name through all over the world. So we are talking about two different patterns of rules, two different system of rules. And the world is judging us according to the Western international rules. And nobody judges them according to those rules because everybody realize it's their set of rules. So if you wanna be fair, let's be fair and judge everybody according to the same rules. Right, but they won't do it. You won't see, if you look at social media, that's not happening, it's being weaponized as that. Of course, this is a tool also used by the other side as, you know, this is how you make legitimacy, delegitimacy to the other side. Grisha Ekobovic, thank you so much for joining us. There's lots more head on day 38 of the war against Hamas. You can stay tuned here at I-24 News all throughout the day and I-24News.tv. I'm Albert Lewerton in Tel Aviv. We'll have more after the break. Israel is in a state of war. Families completely gunned down in their beds. We have no idea where is she. As our soldiers are fighting on the front line, but the general perception is something that certainly needs to be fought as well. News 24, Israel Bajo Ataque. 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Towards civilian town of Netewah, however the town has been desolate. The facts are still coming in, but here's what we know. It landed again in Netewah. It's a civilian area in the upper Galilee that's been cleared out. There are reports of some injuries. We don't have an exact number. Hezbollah has today launched 18 missiles and martyrs. Anyone who is in the north has been told to shelter in place and right now the IDF is attacking the source of these missiles. It's not sure which group fired the missile. We'll have a live report as soon as we can establish contact with our reporter there. Number two, the world seems focused on the Al-Shifa Hospital in Gaza. The IDF released videos showing troops dropping off 300 liters of fuel. But the IDF says the fuel was rejected by the CEO of the hospital. There's no word on what happened to the fuel, but it's expected now to be in the hand of Hamas. The IDF and the American intelligence say that Hamas has built a command complex under the hospital. And that the IDF has now also has set up a pathway for civilians to safely leave the hospital. Number three, in a different area of the Middle East, the United States has struck Iranian facilities in eastern Syria. There are reports that six Iranian proxy fighters are dead. Those facilities used by Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps and groups affiliated by it are used by and linked to dozens of attacks against American troops in neighboring Iraq. There have been 46 attacks against American troops. Number four, the IDF confirmed for the first time that the arrow interception system has been used in this war. It was put into service way ahead of schedule to intercept missiles that Yemeni Houthi rebels launched against Israel. It is a long range missile. It was used in the outer reaches of the atmosphere. So now for the first time in world history, there has been combat in space. So now let's first now go here in our studio, we're doing live team coverage. I'm joined now here in studio by Colonel Grisha Yakubovic. Thanks so much, Grisha, for joining us for your analysis ahead of time. A lot moving, especially now with this new anti-tank missile that was launched from Lebanon. What is the message that Hezbollah is now trying to send to us? Well, I was sure yesterday that we reached to a certain level of escalation that the Israeli side was supposed to take a decision to open the northern front. I think some pressure from maybe from the United States, maybe from other Western allies stopped Israel from doing that. And I think that today we'll return again to the equation that Hezbollah have created since the beginning of the war. It means Hezbollah continue attacking, continues attacking IDF targets, as he refers to. For example, the 14 civilians that were injured yesterday in Dove, they considered them as soldiers. Whether or not they were, they're civilians. There were civilians from the IEC, the Israeli electricity company. I think one of them is still missing, but there were civilians. But the moment that they are declaring that for them it was a military target, it means even if they reached to the highest, let's say, peak of escalation yesterday and Israel was supposed to take action and start to open the front, they returned back to the equation of we as Hezbollah continue playing around with you. It's taunting. It's like a teasing in this playground in a way. It's a ping-pong. It's a game and it fits to the declaration of Nasrallah while he announced that he is helping his brothers in Gaza, although it's weird. Shia, Sunnah, there's an issue there, but he's keeping busy. Three Israeli divisions. So instead of three Israeli divisions that will focus on Gaza, he is playing, let's say he's playing with them. So he's stretching the idea. On the other hand, Hamas, the resistance, as he says in Lebanon, are ones that are joining their brothers in Gaza, Hamas and they are the ones who are launching the missiles, the rockets, the motorcycles. For example, 18 motorcycles landed in Arab Al-Aramshah and they, as it was said, in the open areas. It means it's undirect. If it was Hezbollah, it would probably very, very directed missiles that would hit the target. And as long as it's in open area and not in urban cities, it means it's something else. It's not us. So what I see and how the day, we are talking about. So early in the day. So early in the day. Nobody knows what would happen in the evening, but as for now, Hamas and Israel continue holding the equation of Hezbollah and the idea of who will continue the ping-pong, this game, and the Israeli will target some targets, military targets, okay, of Hezbollah. And Israel has a green line to attack any Hamas or any resistance action in Lebanon. Grisha, I'm gonna have you stand by for one second. We've made contact now with our correspondent in North, right by the Lebanese border, this Mary McCullough, she's joining us live now from Northern Israel. Mary, talk to us a little bit about this latest attack. That's right, Ebers. We have a number of injured from this anti-tank missile attack in the Arobella Ramshah area. We don't have any confirmation yet from the IDF about the injuries that took place in this attack, but they're one that were mortars fired in the Ramshah area. The IDF said that those landed in open areas and didn't cause any damage. But in the same similar area, we also had that anti-tank missile attack, which is what is said to have caused those injuries among those who were there in that area very near the border area. And also just moments ago, inside Lebanon reports coming out that there's another anti-tank missile attack that was fired at the Manara area inside Israel. Again, we're still waiting to hear details about what exactly that strike was. Hezbollah, for its part, did claim credit for the anti-tank missile attack, claiming amongst them that they did cause injuries and successes by hitting Israeli soldiers. It remains unconfirmed exactly what transpired there, what that attack was, but it's a series of a number of different anti-tank missiles from throughout the past few days. So, Mary, the missile landed, as Grisha was telling us, the missile landed in Netwah, which is basically, it's been cleared out. So it seems that what they were doing was trying to hit some Israeli military sites within the proper Israel proper. Absolutely, and that's what we've seen from Hezbollah, really over the course of the past few weeks. Of course, we've seen rockets continue to be fired at communities in Northern Israel, most of which are evacuated, but not all. We have had injuries. We've also had deaths among Israeli civilians in the past few weeks from these attacks coming from Hezbollah, but the majority of the attacks that we have seen coming from Southern Lebanon have been these anti-tank missile attacks, which have been fired mostly at IDF areas or IDF positions along the border. But what we saw yesterday when there was an anti-tank attack, Hezbollah claiming that they hit a number of Israeli soldiers who were working on surveillance equipment at the time. In reality, of course, those were actually workers at the time who were working as part of an electric company to try and repair power lines that were damaged from a previous strike by Hezbollah. So we do continue them seeing, primarily targeting these military areas and civilians occasionally getting caught in the crossfires. But of course, the danger of these rocket fires do continue. Yesterday, we had a volley of rockets fired from inside Southern Lebanon, but that attack was claimed by the Lebanese branch of Hamas. Now, the residents who may have still stayed in the area, they've been told to shelter in place. Who's staying behind? For the most part, most of those who are staying in these kaboots and these moshavim, these very small communities, those who are lying within the border. So within that four kilometer range of where all residents are supposed to be evacuated, most of them are part of the Kitakono Nuts. So it's part of the private security belonging just mostly people who live inside the residents of the kaboots or the moshav, who them themselves stay to guard the kaboots. So they're staying a sort of a secondary private civilian force who can do rapid response. That's the majority of those who are staying and also those who are just staying to run the logistics and the essentials and to keep these communities up and running. But for the vast majority of these communities, they have mostly been evacuated. It's just very small numbers who are remaining here. And those who are staying, they are remaining to try and defend their communities from these attacks. And Mary, just so you know, just while you were speaking, I got a notice in my ear that they were, they are two confirmed injured. There's one moderate and one light injuries. And we'll come back to you more at the top of the next hour with more details as to what's happened here. Mary McCall of Joining Us Live at the northern end of Israel on the Lebanese border. Thanks so much for joining us. Grisha Yokobovic, let me come back to you. And now let's move down to the Gaza for a second. I'll chief a hospital. You can't go on social media without the pro-Palestinian, pro-Hamas people saying, oh, they're attacking the hospital. Oh, the hospital is the epicenter of genocide. It doesn't sound like that's, there's no attacks at the hospital. There are no bombings at the hospital. Let's just add to what you said as expected. Okay, as expected. As expected. Okay. Now why is that? We see that the IDF is actually surrounding the Gaza city. It's not only Shifa. You need to understand that Shifa is located at the center of the city Gaza. Okay. Around Shifa, we have what I will call and say this is the Hamas Dahya, okay, like in the route around Shifa. So first of all, the IDF circled, entered and cleaned all the headquarters, all the, let's say offices, if I may say so, like headquarters around Shifa. I think that the IDF will publish it. Okay. All the materials that were found, all the weapons and training manuals. All the training manuals, everything is there. I think it will be exposed in the following days. But it's not only Shifa. It's the idea surrounds something like full hospitals in Gaza. We have the Indonesian in the area of Jubalia. We have an Antisya hospital near Shehraduan. We have Shifa and we have a Qots in Tel-Hawa in the south. So actually the IDF surrounds four hospitals, big ones, inside the center of the Gaza Strip, the Gaza city. Okay. What symbols, right, the regime, what symbols Hamas' abilities as an entity. But let's ask ourselves, why only the hospitals? Is it something that we have, I don't know, a wish for thinking that we wanna visit hospitals in Gaza? No, we know. The IDF knows that Hamas' headquarters are located under those civilian facilities. And this is a cynical use to honestly, of course, purpose, this is all planned in advance. And a cynical use of hospitals that are operated by money given by the international community, okay? Countries like the EU, countries like the United States, country, the UN, okay? They are all donating money to the Palestinian Authority, right? Now some of the Palestinian Authority budget is actually what operates some of the hospitals. Hamas also get money by other donors, like Qatar, for example, not the Western countries, but you have other NGOs that do donate money, okay, to operate all this health system in Gaza. What about UNRWA? Let's not forget that, they are also a player in that. And Hamas decided to locate all the headquarters, warehouses, maybe Israelis that were kidnapped are also held there. And that's why the IDF surrounds all the hospitals. Now I know Hamas knew that, that the moment the IDF will do that, he will use it as a... What we saw two weeks ago when there was a missile that went astray. Yeah, you're talking about the Ahli Mahmadan. Right, right. And it was found out as a lie. Right, but I'm saying that the PR, the propaganda use of the hospital is the most important thing. For the West, okay? For the West. And for the people who support Palestine, Palestinians, okay, and from the Arab world. When they see, for example, now there is a message outside and we will see that, like it will be like a snowball, okay? That outside of Shifa on the parking, there are 100 bodies, another 60 inside, and another 50 held somewhere inside. And they will try and show it to the world. And why is that? Why Shifa has become a campaign, okay? To do what? To expose our, it's like to make monsters out of the IDF, or they're trying to hide something, okay? So Shifa will be an issue. And the moment the IDF will be able to enter and to show the world that this is actually a Hamas headquarter, then everybody will realize what is the cynical use that Hamas is using. I'm gonna have your hope for one second, because now I wanna turn to a different theater of action here, that this is the area of Eastern Syria, the United States striking some targets in Syria. I'm joined right now by Professor Uzzi Rabi, he's the director of the Moshe Dayan Center for Middle East Studies at Tel Aviv University. He's also the senior researcher at the Center for Iranian Studies at Tel Aviv University. Thanks again for joining me, Professor Uzzi. So let's talk about these depots, if you will. It seems like the Americans shot down, shot into these warehouses, but it seems as though what it basically did, there's a great clip from the West Wing, which was a true story about Clinton yelling at the National Security Advisor saying, this is ridiculous, I had people hurt, and I'm just gonna basically take their lunch. So was this basically just that, it's just a little slap on the wrist? Well, I mean, I think that we are in a slippery slope because this is just, we do talk now business because we do talk about the arms of the octopus, so to speak. Iran actually is orchestrating something by which to fund the flame until or till a certain level. They don't want to have an all out war, but basically this is what's going on. Look at what's going on in Lebanon with Nasrallah, and now Syria is coming to perform. Israel, rightly, created sort of an equation by which to say if Hezbollah is going to cross a red line, Israel is going actually to go for Lebanon. The same is being sound with regard to Syria these days, but here's the thing, the Americans are here. They are getting kind of blow here and there, minor blows from the Iranian militias in Iraq, Iranian militias in the east of Syria. And basically what the Americans are trying to do is to just send another message to Tehran, to have a second thought before it could be too late. We are in a very sensitive and delicate juncture. It is well known. And this is why I think the Americans are coming up with that. It is kind of a way by which actually to deter Iran mainly and then the Iranian militias that are to be found in both Iraq and Syria, because if Iran is going actually to push them on and urge them into the same line of Syria and Lebanon and Israel, this would be something that would result in a regional war. And this is definitely what the Americans would like to prevent. Yeah, you mentioned the fact that it's delicate dance that they're doing. Let me, regarding those overnight US strikes in Syria, Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin, he left open the possibility of more strikes. Let's listen to a little bit of what he said yesterday. These attacks must stop. And if they don't stop, then we won't hesitate to do what's necessary again to protect our troops. These strikes are intended to disrupt and degrade the freedom of action and capabilities of these groups, which are directly responsible for attacks on US forces in Iraq and Syria. So Uzi, it sounds like he's trying to basically say, hey, don't cross that line. But at some point the US is also going to say, wait, you got to stop. I think that this is the problem with the, you know, what we call the Gaza theater, because it is not definitely not Israel versus Hamas. It is much more than that. What you see here is some ramifications, regional ramifications. I did say that there are some global ones, but basically this is where the crux of matters lies. This is exactly what the United States would like to do, to make Iran be keenly aware of the combustible nature of things in both Iraq, Syria, and mainly Lebanon. And this is, in my opinion, I'm just trying to echo actually the things that were said by the Secretary. But basically this is something that we have to make sure actually everybody is well aware of. If Syria is becoming kind of an arena of war for all means of proposal, this could be definitely in no time be turned into the arena of miscalculations what the Americans are trying to do is not only to send Tehran a message, but to make sure that actually this miscalculation is not going to be seen here. And then we are in this slippery slope all the way to what we call regional war. Who's talking to the Iranians if the US is not, if Israel is not, who's talking to them? I think that they are being advised by both the Chinese and to some extent Russia. I mean, this is becoming kind of sort of a global war. Ukraine is definitely well connected to that. And this has been evident in Joe Biden's speech. In my opinion, you can definitely actually go to the map of the Middle East and beyond and you're going to get two- But give me one country in the West that's talking. Give me one question in one country in the West, Sweden, Norway. That would be European states. Those who are having kind of a very, very deep commercial and economic actually relations with Iran, the Germany could be a very good option. I wouldn't rule out the possibility of France, but basically Iran doesn't need that advice. They know definitely when America talks and when America wins business, they would know what not to do. I can assure you that because these guys are very cunning and very true. They are not going actually to waste their energy for nothing. As long as they are using their Arab service, so to speak, what we call proxies, this is definitely goes in line with the Iranian interests. But when Tehran is on the thread, and this is why I think that the Americans should speak with the kind of in a more blunt way, the Iranians, I'm pretty sure would get the message, but we'll have to wait and see how actually cards are going to be played out here. Uzurabi, always a pleasure to have you on with your analysis. Thanks very much Professor Uzurabi, the Director of Moshe Dayan Center at the Middle East Studies at Tel Aviv University. Now let me go to our Piyash Tachaba, who is at the southern end of Israel at the border with Gaza. Piyad, tell us what's happening where you are. Well, all but throughout the morning, we have seen an intensified military activity here, especially in the northern part of the Gaza Strip. We do here see into Bethanun and Bethlehia, which are neighborhoods where Israel has called upon the civilians to evacuate right when the ground offensive started. Of course, we do know that the fighting is now focused on especially hospitals in the central part of the Gaza Strip. The Israeli ground troops are also present in Gaza City, where also the biggest hospital is located, the Ashifa Hospital. It is encircled by the F troops. And we do know that the Israeli military believes that there is a Hamas Commander Center. In fact, the biggest one, a major Hamas Commander Center located in the tunnel system underneath that hospital. Now the WHO, the World Health Organization, has described the situation inside the hospital as a dire, as we do know that this hospital is running out of fuel and out of water. It is not functioning anymore. In fact, more than 20 out of the more than 30 hospitals in the Gaza Strip are said to be not functioning right now. We do hear about babies dying in incubators because there's just simply no fuel anymore. Now the Israeli military has said that it tried to supply that hospital with 300 liters of fuel, but it said that Hamas printed the hospital staff from actually accepting that fuel. Now the hospital director of Ashifa said that none of those negotiations have taken place and that 300 liters are far from enough for supplying a hospital of that size as well. So the humanitarian situation seems to deteriorate as the fighting, and you can possibly also hear the Israeli artillery that we've been hearing throughout the morning here, Israeli planes and the sky is really artillery to Gaza and also machine gun fire in Gaza. As you can see also smoke arising in the background here in the northern part of the Gaza Strip, but the fighting seems to really intensify this morning. This is where the Israeli military is calling upon residents to leave to make their way south. Now we do know that there is an unknown, an undefined number of residents still remaining in that northern part. For several reasons, people who say that they just simply they're injured, they're wounded, they're old, they cannot make that way. They have families, they have children, and many also think that the south is not safe as well as also the southern part of the Gaza Strip has come under heavy bombardment. Nonetheless, the Israeli military constantly reiterates its call to the civilians to evacuate to the southern part of the Strip. It wants to open the humanitarian corridor that people can also exit the Ashifa hospital. However, reports on the ground suggest that these corridors come under attack. Either Hamas, Israel says it's come under attack by Hamas who is trying to prevent those civilians from evacuating institutions such as hospitals to continue and use them as human shields. The situation on the ground seems to be very, very dire. This is also what humanitarian aid organizations are confirming, especially when we talk about those hospitals who are expected, which are expected to come into the focus of fighting in recent, in the upcoming days, as again, Israel is believing that Hamas is especially using those hospitals as command centers underground. Great, Pierre Shachabak of the southern part of Israel at border with Gaza, thanks so much for joining us. Let me go back to Grisha Yakubovic for just a one second. Grisha, what do you say to those who are saying, listen, if you're left behind, if you're still in Gaza right now, even after you've been given the passage to go, you ate the candy on October the 7th, all bets are off. Well, it's not just been given, it's still going on. Just imagine the reality. In urban city, one of the most crowded cities in the world with terror organizations, Nukhba terrorists, that we've seen what they did October 7th, butchered 1,400 Israelis, hiding in or among a civil population, and the idea surrounds the city, the hospitals, and there are two humanitarian options that people can still, under fire, leave the northern part of the Gaza Strip. Now, I want to see one example in the world, one example that a military of any Western country would behave the same way, under fire, under attacks, fighting terror from underground, and dealing with humanitarian issues, delicate issues, like how to help babies, how to bring the diesel, how to open humanitarian passages to people. It wasn't like that in Mosul, it wasn't like that in Kabul, it wasn't like that. Nowhere, it's not nowhere. And I think that this lesson of how a Western modern military behaves in such an environment must be studied. Studied or changed, so here's the question for you. We're playing by the rules, right? The Israelis are playing by the rules. We're trying to play by the rules. They're not playing by the rules, right? Do we have to play by the rules? When you say by the rules, there are two rules here, okay, two mechanism of rules. We are playing or we are trying to play according to the Western rules. It means do whatever you can to help civilians, do whatever you can to save people, do whatever you can to help and to provide aid to people that even if there are people of your enemy, the other part plays according to different set of rules. Use the people as human shield, use the people to- Mali, name Africa, all through America, name through all over the world. So we are talking about two different patterns of rules, two different system of rules, and the world is judging us according to the Western international rules, and nobody judges them according to those rules because everybody realize it's their set of rules. So if you wanna be fair, let's be fair and judge everybody according to the same rules. Right, but they won't do it. You won't see, if you look at social media, that's not happening, it's being weaponized, is that? Of course, this is a tool also used by the other side as, you know, this is how you make legitimacy, delegitimacy to the other side. 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As we continue our rolling coverage, day 38 of the war here in Israel on the southern front, while the ground operation continues, Israeli leaders will probably be facing a horrible dilemma. Keep on going or hope for the sake of releasing part of the hostages. What is the higher price? Missing an opportunity to get some of them out or risking the release of the rest. On the northern front, as we speak, Red Sarin Alerts are going off yet again in northern communities. Things are heating up. Seems to be no longer a question of if, but of when Israel and Hezbollah are roots to direct confrontation, should Israel move from defense to offense? And we want to head straight to the northern border. I-24 News correspondent Mary McCollough standing by there with the I-24 News team on the Israel Lebanon border. Mary, it doesn't look good. No, it's certainly been a loud morning here in the border area, Ellie. We woke up to the sounds of constant artillery throughout the day today. We've had a number of different anti-tank missile attacks. At least two people are injured in one of those attacks that happened near Natua. Also, mortars being fired at a community near there in Aramshah. Those mortars saying to have landed in open areas and not caused any damage. But then also reports coming in from southern Lebanon of yet another anti-tank missile attack this time in the area of Manara. So this is a continuing challenge that we continue to see dealing with Israeli military, with these anti-tank missiles, but even more alarming now also these rocket sirens ringing out, going as far south as Kariyad Bialik that's just outside of Haifa, Afgo, Safed, all of these areas and spots ringing out throughout the northern Israel areas. We definitely continue to see an escalation. In the meantime, we continue to hear Israeli drones flying very low overhead, as well as also Israeli warplanes. Reports from inside Lebanon talk about ongoing Israeli shelling in numerous areas and also reporting the sounds of warplanes flying very low in their airspace. And, Maria, Saudi reports that hundreds of well-trained by both Hezbollah and Iran terrorists are nearing the border with the Golan Heights, something that was facilitated by the Syrians. What do we know? We don't know much. These are emerging reports. They aren't confirmed yet, but this is, of course, something that has put the Israeli military even on high alert. Of course, we're continuing to see the Israeli military attacking any terror cells that are near its border yesterday. We had another incident of a suspected infiltration that happened in the Beir An-Nitz area. The Israeli military said that it responded to those and that it will continue to work to thwart any threats coming from its northern border and that they are prepared to act, just as you said, in the defensive, whether or not they're going to be on the offensive remains to be seen. We heard strong words coming out from the IDF spokesman last night, saying that there was an operational plan of action to change the security situation here in the north. Being here the past few weeks, I can tell you this morning, there's suddenly an escalation in the number of attacks. But if we've seen a definitive change from the Israeli military, that remains to be seen. I-24 News, of course, I'm Mary McCullough from the Israel-Lebanon border. Stay safe, and of course, we will get back to you later on in the broadcast. And we now want to welcome here in the studio, I-24 News, a senior defense correspondent, Jonathan Regiv and Mr. Afali Oshami, former senior intelligence officer at the IDF. Thank you, gentlemen, very much for joining us. Jonathan, simply put, is there a scenario of a mini-war in Lebanon or is it all in, all out? I think there is a scenario of a mini-war because it looks as if, for the moment, Israel clearly does not want a second front if Israel wanted or at least had the ability. And when I'm saying ability, I'm not saying physical ability. I'm saying all considerations with the U.S. things and so on, it would have happened. We learned, and we know that in the first week that there was an option by many officials, maybe even including Defense Minister Yav Galant to head a preemptive strike towards on Hezbollah. We were very impressed at the time with the very long line of foreign dignitaries who were here, President Biden, President Macron, Prime Minister Sunak and so on. They were not, they were here to express support. They were also here to make sure that Israel does not push too far into Lebanon. Therefore, I don't think their stance has changed in this case, and Israel relies a lot, especially on the United States. So as far as Israel is concerned, I don't think for the moment we'll see a second front emerging. As far as Hezbollah, and as much as I hate to say it, I don't know. I don't know. Hassan Nasrallah is pushing forward, pushing forward, doing more, but not, you know what, Yav Galant, the Minister of Defense that said a few days ago, if you see that we've bombed Beirut, then you know that we've crossed the red line, Beirut has not been bombed. And yet, perhaps the stance of global leaders hasn't changed, that the reality on the ground changed, Mr. Yav Shalmi. And there is this notion that is not illogical that while the northern border in terms of the Israeli side, the Israeli communities, there are no civilians in this area at the moment, it might be a good time to operate. If you hear the voices from the brigade and division commanders of the IDF, of the Northern Command, they want to strike now. They are being held back by a political decision and by probably the American pressure not to escalate the situation. The American attitude that is also slowly changing in the fact that last night, the American forces went on a pre-emptive strike, if I'm not mistaken, against their attackants in Syria and in Iraq. So it doesn't mean that we should tell them to show restraint. So the problem is that, as you rightly fully said, people that were evacuated cannot reasonably be asked to come back to their homes if the threat that they were evacuated for is still present. So the minimum that the IDF will have to do, there is absolutely no choice, no brainer, is to push the Hezbollah back to the north of the Litany River, which is according to the 1701 resolution of the United Nations, a buffer zone, the military zone, which would at least show that there is no Hezbollah terrorist presence near these border towns of Israel. That's the minimum. But for that, there will need to be some serious international reassurances, not in the form of unifil forces that were the first to leave. Exactly. That's why we have left with no other choice than to strike, and we will strike here in just a matter of time. You know, we keep on talking. There are signs that it's imminent, yes? There are signs on the ground that something is... No, because we keep on talking about the international clock, but living with a ticking bomb on the northern border, not a feasible situation either. But from North, let's cross now to the south, to the main arena of the fight, I-24 News correspondent Pia Staklbach, the I-24 News team there on the ground. Pia, what is happening? We've heard some red alert sirens in the south. What is happening on the Israeli side and what is happening inside the Gaza Strip? Right, Eli, well, we had two red alerts triggered today. Both of them actually here in the southern communities. Also, we had one of them here in Sterot. Again, you do have about 15 seconds to get to a shelter here. You do not even hear the siren. You just get throughout the loudspeaker the announcement that there is the red alert, so you don't even get the siren because you're just too close to the Gaza border. Now, inside the Gaza Strip, all focus is on the Shifa hospital located in the very center of the Gaza Strip in Gaza City. Although when we were closer to the Gaza border earlier, we could actually see heavy or also hear heavy military activity specifically in the northern part of Gaza. We could see airstrikes, Israeli artillery and also machine gun fire coming out of the northern part of the Gaza Strip, which is the part that the Israeli military is calling for civilians to leave immediately. This is what the humanitarian corridor is supposed to facilitate the movement of those civilians in the northern part to the southern part. There is also meant to be a humanitarian corridor in place today from 9 a.m. to about 4 p.m. in the afternoon. The IDF spokesperson in Arabic has just announced that that route is being facilitated today. Again, because of that heavily intensifying military activity in the north and also as we know that the Israeli military thinks that underneath the hospitals in Gaza, especially at the Shifa hospital, Hamas is operating its command structures and the Shifa hospital is in the focus of the Israeli military activity. It is besieged and Israel continues to call upon those who still shelter inside. We're speaking about hundreds of people still expected to be inside, both those who came there to seek shelter and also patients to leave the hospital if possible. Now we do know that the hospital has been running out of fuel and out of water, but this is what the Israeli military is saying to leave all the people, to leave those who are able to leave to the south. Now there are still, again, an unknown number of people who are both in the hospitals but also in the southern part of the strip, but again it is advised that they use that corridor. Now we are hearing from reports from the ground in Gaza that people do think that also the southern part is not necessarily safe as also that part has gotten under bombardment, but the Israeli army insists that the northern part is not safe whatsoever for those civilians and is calling upon them to use that corridor. Again, it has been in place for several days in a row now as the humanitarian situation, especially in the northern part, is extremely dire and that has also been reiterated by the World Health Organization specifically referring to Auschwitz Hospital that has run out of fuel. Now the Israeli military yesterday saying that they tried to facilitate the hospital with 300 liters of fuel saying that Hamas in fact prevented that hospital to accept the fuel delivery. The hospital director saying that no such negotiations have taken place and that 300 liters are simply also not enough to run those generators, but this is also again in the wake of Israel calling upon those people to leave, to leave also these hospitals in Gaza City and to just make their way south. Right, and then setting up those field hospitals in the southern areas. Yeah, complex situation. Indeed, thank you very much for this, much more from Pia later on. In the broadcast back in the studio with Jonathan Regeven, with Feli Roshalmi. Jonathan, we are naturally focusing on what is happening in the northern part of the Strip, but the southern part is not free of Hamas terrorists. Let's put it that way. Far from being free and we can assume, I don't know for sure, but we can assume that many of the hostages are held in the southern part of the Gaza Strip. Not that I have any intelligence about it, I don't. It's just plain logic. 74 people, that's about one third of the people who were kidnapped came from Kibbutz near Aus, which is just in front of Hanyunist. You can assume that they're there. But of course, no one really knows about it and Israel has practically control of the northern part of the Gaza Strip. And when we've not heard, unfortunately, of more hostages coming back so far, we have heard reports of a possible deal. I don't know about that, but if you want to eradicate Hamas altogether, if you want to at least take away all of their capabilities as a governing body and as a military threat, you cannot just take over half of the Gaza Strip as important as it may be. You need to take over the entire area so we can assume that the operation will move south sooner or later. When will that happen? I don't know exactly, but we can assume it will happen. It's imminent. Yeah, and at the beginning of the sixth week of the war, it seems that we can already perhaps dub it as a week of dilemmas. We've been talking about the dilemma in the north and there are two imminent dilemmas when we're talking about the southern front. One, of course, is the hostage dilemma and the other one is the the hospital dilemma because it is more than just a symbol of this war. We're talking about practically the main Hamas headquarters right underneath the hospital. Hamas is obviously doing whatever it can to prevent or stall an Israeli attack there, but there's simply no other choice. Yes, and that's why I'm not sure that we have that many dilemmas because in the north eventually we'll have to strike, as we said. It's a no-brainer. It's just a matter of timing. The same in the south, as you said, we will take care of the southern part of the Gaza Strip when the timing is right for the IDF. The same also for the hospital because there is a number, I would not quote it because I don't know it, but there is a number of innocent civilians, meaning collateral damage that will not stop the operation. In other words, I don't know if it's 10 people or 20 innocent people staying in the hospital, but at a certain point we will have to strike. We do know more or less how many terrorists are there and how many people are there because we are in direct contact with the administration of the hospital. They're telling us what's the situation in there, how many patients they have, how many people are still there. People just came to take asylum in the hospital compound that are neither medical staff nor patients, and the terrorists. The advantage we have on that particular hospital was built by Israeli architects, so we have the plans and the unit 9900 together with the unit 8200 have prepared virtual reality movies that are screened to the soldiers, the IDF soldiers, meaning that when we go in we will already know what the place looks like. Bob Ground and Underground? No, Bob Ground. There's also VR movies of what we know about the tunnels and this is not just because for the hospital and the tunnels it's been ongoing even in the streets of Gaza, they receive these images because they don't know the place the first time. They receive these images, they know more or less where the terrorists are placed in the hospital compound so this will help the attack. There will be an assault eventually unless we manage something else, but the main effort now is to evacuate as many people as possible. At certain point we know that we cannot evacuate anymore people are not moving or they are being held back by the terrorists and then there will be a calculation of how much the collateral damage is as towards the threat that is being suppressed if we do strike that hospital. This is part of the cruel twisted inhumane game Hamas is playing to pose such situations to begin with premature babies being used as human shelters not even fully human this gentle stage of their lives again this is how Hamas is playing this vicious game and you've mentioned those VR imitations of what is happening in the Gaza Strip and tragically enough this is also the part of Hamas' modus operandi on the day of October 7th they came with organized maps not VR but they knew exactly where to go because they mapped up the scenery very well unfortunately and as all of this is happening there are new details emerging on the surprise attack more than five weeks ago and how deep how far it was intended to go really I-24 new senior defense correspondent Jonathan Regev with the horrific details slowly but decisively the IDF is taking over more and more of the northern Gaza Strip every movement is dangerous as explosive tunnels can appear in every step and terrorists can still pop up from the ground as the forces push forward they once again find evidence of civilian areas being used by terrorists for their purposes sometimes using their own homes and families as shields in the home of the northern brigade ammunition chief of the Islamic jihad we found plenty of ammunition military vests military uniform along with images of the leaders of the Iranian Axis as opposed to the terrorists Israel is hoping to minimize civilian casualties that is why fuel is provided by IDF soldiers to the hospital despite the concern it will eventually be used by the terrorists hiding in the tunnels below the hospital that is also the reason behind the daily safe passage corridors allowing Gazans to head south and flee from the current fighting area the road is open the Israeli troops are standing on the side but the road itself is open on Salahadin street the road is clear as the fighting now wages in the strip the plans Hamas had for the fighting within Israeli territory are now revealed according to the Washington Post some of the militants carried enough food ammunition and equipment to allow them to head deep into Israel much deeper than they eventually did according to the report it was not only major Israeli cities they were after but possibly wanted to reach the West Bank thus uniting the two Palestinian fronts in what would have been a major propaganda victory it was a very ambitious plan which the entire Israeli security establishment simply missed once again Israel learned the hard way that the plans and capabilities of the other side should be taken seriously Israeli mobilization may have stopped the plan of combining the fronts but the price paid more than 1,000 civilians in the border communities who were killed should forever serve as a reminder Israel will come at a price of of course a certain pause in the fighting on the ground which brings us to ask will it hinder the achievements of the IDF on the ground can it mess up the plans for the continuation of the battle and second there's also the risk that releasing only some of the hostages essentially risk the release absolutely I think there are two mistakes that can be made in this willing and dealing the first is to accept ceasefire at this point in any case because it would be like stopping the full swing of the IDF's advance into the Gaza Strip and that would be very counter protective and it would be risking first of all the lives of our soldiers so you would get some hostages back and then you get soldiers killed so that's the balance so far anyway there is no such pressure and there's also no such request by the Hamas from the time being Hamas hasn't requested anything really and the second thing is as you said really really in an ideal situation but we're not in an ideal situation with everybody or nobody because accepting part even though we want the children of course first priority to be released this is at the expense of the others that stay behind that's for sure and let not kid ourselves the Hamas will not release all of the hostages they will keep at least 40-50 minimum because it's the life insurance Mr. Sinois and company they have first human shield which is the hospital or the civilian population of Gaza and human shield is the Israeli hostages they're not going to give them back what for a few hundred terrorists they don't care about or for humanitarian aid they don't care about the only thing they care about is their own skin and maybe their Swiss bank account and for that they need Israeli hostages because when it will come to the very last minutes of the fight and they see that we might grab them or really minute them then we'll say okay take these hostages and let us give free passage to Egypt or whatever and so that's why I do not believe one word of what they're saying they're not saying much and anyway so far there is nothing happening and the only solution is the military pressure applied on them increasing the pressure to some extent that's for certain we want to shift the focus now because in the past month more than 7200 people got wounded in the war and were treated in Israeli hospitals the great majority suffering minor injuries but besides them there are more than 1000 wounded in tougher conditions several hundreds of them are now facing a long challenging complex process of recovery and rehabilitation some of them will never get back the lives they had before so when we're talking about victims of October 7th we should also take them into consideration and we want to turn now live to Dr. Deborah Gershov-West the director of emergency department at the Samson Institute of University Hospital Dr. Gershov-West thank you very much for joining us well let's start with the basics because again we're using those terms so frequently nowadays but when we say moderate or severe injuries what are we talking about exactly often when we're talking about moderate injuries we're talking about loss of limb a loss of a leg or loss of an arm is considered a moderate injury severe injuries are ones that are immediately life-threatening so for example they could be injuries to the lungs, to the heart to the internal organs or head trauma so when we're talking about there's 1000 that are injured and several hundreds of them are seriously injured we're not including all of the people who basically lost and there are many many of them and again we're I wouldn't say using those terms casually nothing is casual those days but I don't think that we realize how many people lost the life they had period and obviously it varies from one to another but what does the rehabilitation process looks like let me tell you what the rehabilitation hospital looks like it looks like a first world war it looks like a first world war battlefield it's scores of young 18, 19, 20 30 year old people with a missing limb a missing leg usually often what's called disarticulation which is it's missing already at the level of the hip missing arms with head injuries it looks like there's been a battle in the trenches in the first world war and when we talk about rehabilitation let's let's set aside for the moment the emotional rehabilitation but just physical rehabilitation I mean this is their lives will never ever be the same now they're going to need all of the victims are going to need prolonged rehabilitation they're going to need to learn how to walk again with a prosthetic limb and a prosthetic limb from a below-leaf amputation or an above-leaf amputations are very very different scenario as well as there's upper limb injuries, there's head injuries where people have to learn how to talk again how to walk again and aside from that is the emotional the emotional trauma not only the survivors but of the survivor guilt of every person who survived is carrying with them their friends, their family members their members of their security forces whether it's the police force or the army that died alongside them they even look at themselves as the lucky ones doctor I do want to ask you more on this personal note the shock, the intensity the immediate trauma slowly, painfully fading share with us what it's been like in the past week at the hospital it seems that only now perhaps both doctors and patients begin to digest and process what happened honestly not no, it's not fading it's not getting better if anything it's intensified by the shock and horror and disbelief that we all feel with what's going on in the world with the fact that people are denying it that people are saying that we're making it up that we're exaggerating the people who are ignoring the 239 victims who are hostages including little children still being held by Hamas the people calling us instigators of genocide are accusing us of wanting to kill people in hospitals now I've been working actively with the with Israeli and Palestinian organizations to treat patients in trauma and in other scenarios and treating and teaching around the world this is the fact that we are being accused as a nation and also that as a position we're taking it personally you can't recover if you're not allowed to recover if you're constantly being beaten down and if we're constantly getting wounded patients we're getting victims all the time of horrific injuries anti-tank missiles that it's almost impossible to recover from of rockets of gunshot wounds and they just keep pouring in and every day there's more and more wounded we're recovering no we are responding we are collecting ourselves we are acting out our resilience is not that we're beginning to recover or sleep at night our resilience is that we are taking our lives into our own hands we are responding we are trying to teach we're trying to to treat we're trying to do the best that we can you can't recover when you're not allowed to recover that will continue to resonate Doctor before we thank you and let you go your challenging day our rehabilitation department is able to handle this flood of patients yes I think they are there's rehabilitation departments around the country and basically what's happening is that the patients have been transferred all around the country which presents another problem yes we seem to have some connectivity issues that we're struggling to hear you properly Doctor Debra Gershov West director of the emergency department at the Samson Institute of the University hospital thank you for your work in those past five weeks and thank you for this conversation we're sending all the strength from here in our studios at the Jaffa port and take a deep breath before you watch the next the next report because it will probably not leave you for a while they're missing their room they're missing their kidnapped friends they're missing their murdered grandparents children of Kibbutz Berry have seen things at all to ever see really and with those same eyes they're now seeing reality so clearly with pain, with grief, with endless yearning but with optimism and above all else they're sticking to one another knowing that they they simply cannot go through this alone and that luckily they don't have to here's a candid conversation with the young survivors before we start talking it's important for me that you feel comfortable and free to talk about whatever you want if there's something that you don't want to talk about then really don't talk about it tell me a little bit about how you're feeling today I'm okay but I'm also very excited my gift and my friends and my friends and my friends and my friends how are you? why? do you miss them? I miss them a lot but what? earings oh wow really beautiful who bought that for you? grandma? yes, grandpa my grandma was born I was not born I was 6 years old and she was born and my best friend she was born 2,000 years ago I was born and now I have something like 40 what was the hardest part? I was already a child my father when he was a child he taught me how to play and then he taught me he taught me how to play and then we went to school they brought us together from below my mother was the teacher my mother was a teacher who was a friend of hers who came to teach to open the school how did you know what to do? I did not I did everything and what? you pushed it hard? what were they shouting? do you know how many hours you were in the safe room for? it was very difficult I could not sleep I had a fever one of our friends came to our house and he told us he told us a lot was that the last message from her? yes do you think about her a lot? very much what do you think? what do you miss the most? the most the most did you like it? yes, very much I just realized that it is good for friends you started saying goodbye to your friends already goodbye to your friends when I was three years old in the morning I wrote a letter and they left me when I was alive and we all went outside the school and they left us and were you able to or did you leave now? yes, in the morning they left me they gave me some stickers and I was afraid of it but I think it is not my father was in the army in the middle of the war my mother who came to take care of her there were many people she came to open the door and open it what was grandma's name? they were beautiful what is hard about being in the hotel is it that you are not at home? not at home it is hard that you are not at home you eat the same things you eat the same things the food was tastier at Barry yes, every day when I was at home there was an oven there was a stove there was also a stove how is your new school? one of the most beautiful why? it is better than what we had it is good what do you miss the most? my best friend who lives here? don't you want to stay and sleep here? yes, do you think so? someone else with you? and was it also before or is it only after it happened? that's why I don't want to go to the toilet there was a small toilet there was a toilet there was a toilet and I was happy because I used to hide and it was like what? was it okay? would you like a break? no we will have a break we will have a break all is well we will have a little break thank you thanks to him it is great to have a friend like that so now it helps you it is very different it is different is there anything you want to say to our government? yes what they have brought to us is a clue a lot of it that at least 12 hours, no one would do anything. If I had something to say to the head of the government, I would tell him to do everything he can to bring back my gift and my gift in the future. I don't know if it's time to make excuses about the Prime Minister or these things, but because they are very powerful, only when they do something, that they bring back our secrets and secrets. In a place, I would open it. It's just crazy, it's just crazy. Like this, a part of the state of Israel is no longer with us. And how can it not exist? To return to the kibbutz. Yes, yes, yes. Do you think it will happen any time soon? Yes. That's what I need to talk about. But aren't you scared? I'm scared. I want to go back to the kibbutz. What did you tell him? Do you think it will happen soon? Yes. What do you miss the most here? My gift. My gift. Such a big gift. That they made us. We can make it happen, but it will cost me a lot. Tell me, do you believe everything will be okay in the end? Everything will be okay in the end. There's always a happy ending. Like they're saving something in the end, right? Right. So maybe we'll be able to fix everything in the end? Yes. So here, we'll even have a happy ending. Optimistic. Children, survivors, and for them, for their future, things will have to change. That's for certain. And as, you know, it couldn't be any more striking to move from this to that class in 24 hours since the October 7th massacre for the Internet to do what it does best. Spread fake news, denying the truth, and for conspiracy theories to pop out, like mushrooms after the rain. Well, behind it, there are some serious, mighty forces, for example, Microsoft officials saying clear traces to Russia when it comes to the distribution of misinformation on the war. At the end of the day, it's us, people who crave to invent those make-believes rabbit holes. Here's a collection of some despicable denials of the massacre. There was no killing of children. There was a lie, a lie, a lie, and the Israeli government admitted it was a lie. What? Seeing an end were actors. I've seen a film showing seeing an end were actors. So do you deny the 1,400 Israelis were bushed by Hamas? Yes, I do deny. You deny? You say it's a lie? There's no evidence where it's done. When Hamas invaded Israel on the 7th of October, what was your initial reaction to that? I didn't believe they did today, Hamas. I think so. Honestly, I think I need to be a bit more clued up on everything that's going on. I feel like I'm not really qualified to answer that. I mean, I'm not sure if I've seen anything that shows that that's actually happened or if I'm actually correct. I'm not sure about what exactly happened, but sure it didn't happen. Let's cross now to Mr. Arthur Shapiro, Head of the Advertising and Marketing Studies at the Tel Aviv University. Thank you very much. So, Shapiro, for your time, let's start with the basics because we need to clear the clutter here. What's the difference, if there is any, between fake news, misinformation, disinformation and conspiracy theory? There is a small difference. Well, misinformation being flooded through the social media is usually being done by people that have intention to mislead the public, where conspiracy theories is usually not, doesn't come from some kind of political system, but from people that just have distrust to institutions. But in the end, they do look the same, where fake misinformation perpetuates through social media and captures the public's opinion and makes for weird appearances such as what we've seen now as well. We're living in a post-truth world where it doesn't matter what's going on in the real world, in the social media sphere, fake news just perpetuate and that's a big problem. Right. But part of what makes conspiracy theory a good conspiracy theory, so to speak, is to always include even a tiny part of the truth. True. And I think a lot of the mechanics being used today by foreign agencies that do behavioral change interventions, they use the mechanics of conspiracies, where they take a grain of truth and they patch it to a societal break and then what happens is that this fake news, this information usually taps into something which people already believe in and that's why it's really hard for them to be noticing that it's untrue or should not be seen as something that should be presumed as something which is truth and this is a very dangerous method that's now being used by foreign agencies to destabilize societies throughout the western world. We've seen it in 2016 in the American elections and we're seeing it now where we have some evidence of Iranian and Russian intervention within the social networks in the world around the conflict. Yeah, but you know, Mr. Shapiro, why chaos agents wants to, so chaos very clear, but why do we believe in conspiracy theories? What is so appealing in them? How does it serve us? Well, it brings down to the fact that we are all cognitive misers where we we attend to data and information that reaffirms what we believe about the world. So there's a bias for confirmation bias for essential which we try to confirm and re-offering what we believe in and what usually what's being really useful for people that distribute fake news that they tap to those emotions to those needs and engrave that, as you said, reign of truth and manipulate it in a way that what we see is basically a re-formation of what they believe about the world, strengthened by a fake myth or disinformation that they see online. So if you hate the Jews, if you're an anti-Semite and you see a connection between what you believe about the world which is hating the Jews is what you want to be the truth and then you see a grain into some kind of manipulation about what's going on in Gaza then you tend to not look at the information critically and that's why we see a lot of people essentially being misled and are widely misinformed what's the truth about what's going on and who's the perpetrator and who's the one that should be blamed for what's going on in Gaza today. So to an extent wishful thinking becomes validated by this alleged fact or this entire perception of reality but if I'm trying to be the devil's advocate here Mr. Shapiro there's also a sense that conspiracy theories are giving us again albeit false but the sense of control as in our desire to make sense out of the insensible about the sporadic nature, the vicious cynical and random nature of life it does, it does come down to the reformation of order where we need to make order in a chaotic situation and specifically if you look at the conspiracy theories around the October 7 massacre where a lot of conspiracy theories came about the idea that the idea was a lot of what happened it took part in in the massacre itself it helped a lot of people even in Israel to believe that it's not that the idea was not walking or that it was really inefficient it did it efficiently so it doesn't break down our belief in the idea it just takes down the fact that we distrust the fact that they are working on the same interest that they should have had we rather believe in the malicious intentions of someone then get the solution the solution about its abilities or its ability to control reality exactly and it was so strong that the need to believe and keep order on what happened on October 7 and to disprove the fact that the idea was misled and fullen by the Hamas we did a research 40% of Israelis on the first predate of the war believed that the idea took part in the massacre just for him to have a true perception that it could not have happened and that we were misled and fulled by Hamas because that is just something that we don't want to believe in yes and Mr. Shapiro really in a sentence if you may bottom line how do we make sure that we're not part of the problem but part of the solution there are no shortcuts education period well education can help to agree because again because we're not critical thinkers when we find information on social media the three of them is what we believe about the world even if it's fake news we fail to be critical about the information so to be honest it's really hard and the only way to fight fake news is simply don't take part in its distribution where you notice something even if you believe in it then just don't do share don't do comments assume that even stuff that you believe in is part of a manipulation in the world today as we live in a post-truth world the honest about your face you can't believe anything you see or see over here so just keep being critical about anything you see and if you can watch less social media that probably does the best I second that that's for certain Mr. Asashapir ahead of the advertising and marketing studies at Tel Aviv University thank you very much for this and let's hope we do find something to believe in in the near future thank you very much back here in studio with Mr. Rafael Uruchalmi another hard segue now we've seen yesterday that is the sheen bet the internal security agency says that it had arrested several a few dozen terrorists in the Gaza Strip and brought them to Israel for interrogations and a bit too to get intelligence what could what kind of information can they get out of them talking about 20 senior officers so it's just high ranking so of course they possess much more information than a simple terrorist on the ground and they've been taken for VIP interrogation because they know so much and it's very important at this stage of the war together as much intel especially that at this level of command in the Hamas they will probably have information about the hostages and where they are held so this is very very important I remember during the I'm not making myself much younger here but during the first Lebanese war I was in charge of receiving such VIP people at the helicopter airport of Rambam in Haifa it's a little complex there was a helicopter place where unfortunately wounded and killed soldiers of the IDF were being brought for the Rambam and amongst them sometimes you had terrorists and these terrorists were high ranking people who benefited from a whole one way flight from Lebanon to Israel because they had so much information we needed to interrogate them in a very secure environment and briefly I'm going to tell me before we take a break why are they cooperating if they know that they're essentially doomed they're cooperating because they know they will be well treated here saving their lives and also the people who interrogate them manage to exploit all the psychological weaknesses they have and create confidence developing even the Stockholm syndrome amongst them like they trust the people who interrogate them they have very very experienced units of interrogation who know how to create trust and to ask you seemingly an important questions and the answer that you give is full of information for them it's a whole profession it's a career to know how to interrogate these people and gain their trust and how to find out what information is reliable and what is deceiving on purpose he has a very complex and fascinating field indeed Thank you very much for joining us for this hour of the broadcast