 run it up to run it back run it up to run it back run it up run it back good Wednesday morning and welcome to run it back right here on fan dual TV. Yep. Over here. We're ready. Shamsherani is working on something right now. He'll join us in a second introducing the guys, Chandler Parsons, Lou will Chandler. We haven't seen you since Super Bowl. How was it? Oh my God, I don't sound quite like you, but I hope you're feeling better, but listen, seven days in Vegas is offensive and it's too much. And it was a blast and the game obviously went well, Chiefs won, but yeah, I'm beat up, I'm defeated. And I don't feel good at all. I can't believe you made it seven days. I didn't even do anything and I came back sick as a dog. You actually lived life and I don't know how you're standing at all. Good for you. What really hurt me is the first couple of days I was like, I'm just going to ease into it. We got our show, we're recording. That didn't happen. I was out till three, four in the morning gambling every single night. So that was supposed to be my rest leading up to the big weekend when everybody got there. My wife got there. By the time my wife got there on Friday, I was shot. I had nothing left to give and I fought through, but it was a blast. Trav hooked us up with a really good suite during the game. We were right there on the field and yeah, it was all, it's just despicable. It's a despicable town. It's despicable weekend and I still, I'm still paying the piper. It's unbelievable how bad I felt 72 hours after. Aren't you glad I was sick yesterday? I bought you. Oh my God. When I got that text, I was stoked. We all were glad you were sick yesterday. We much appreciate it. Yeah. My immune system's got you guys. You're welcome. All right. We're going to get to some basketball. Actually some, some fun games last night we could talk about. And we're going to start with little kings, sons, Katie and Booker of course leading their team 131 25 so bonus though, 35 points, 18 rebounds, 12 assists, his third straight triple double 18 50s and he leaves the league by the way, he's got three over Yokech box finished with 49 and six. There is a play though, however, Chandler that you wanted to talk about specifically the sons being up 124 121. Yeah. Well, I'm watching this play at the end of the game and I'm surprised that the Kings bench didn't go more nuts because this right there is a clear and one any any way throughout the game. Unless this is in the game right here, the refs have been consistent on calling this a foul and book leaves his feet. He's in the air and this changes the whole dynamic of the game. Now so bonus goes to the line and he has a chance to tie this game up and then we know what inevitably happened where I think the next play there was a foul called on the Kings but before the ball was inbound and so now another free throw and then they got another foul and book made the free throw miss one Royce knew how to huge tip out but this was a critical play in the game where that's a foul and I know one play doesn't determine the outcome of a game but I guess you can't review this. I don't know because there wasn't the whistle wasn't blown but they got the roll into the deal here a lot towards the end of the game here and they put themselves in position to win this game but credit to the Suns they made some plays down the other stretch that offensive rebound the free throw line from Royce O'Neill was big KD had a big game book made some big shots grace now I made some shots but that play right there on watching the game like man that's a that's a game changing call right there that was clearly missed. I feel like the Knicks would tell you one play can affect the outcome of a game. Lou did you Lou you're really big on was there a foul there's not a foul what did you think of that play you agree with Chandler. Yeah that was absolutely a foul and like Chandler said you would just like to see some consistency with the way games are being officiated now especially when you come down right after that and call a foul before the ball is inbound and those are those are the type of things that make a player loses mind and gets kicked out of a game because you know you swear that you're not getting the fair end of the deal and and especially in a close game like that where that makes so much of a difference in how the outcome of the game goes that that's just that was a ridiculous no-call referee was right there in front of it that's a textbook one you know when I play I had a sand with the referees a at least at least called it easy you know so that way when when the game gets down to it's to the nitty gritty you know we could show you a little leeway and be a little bit more patient which you're missing something but those right there you got to have it that's a hundred percent of foul man refs having a week right now the Suns right now four of their last five victorious four games back of the four spot in the West Lou we weren't really sure what to make of this team they made some moves we thought okay this will be it do they have enough to get in the four spot in your opinion I'm gonna say I'm gonna say no I think I think they're gonna stay right there and it fit that fifth to sixth spot right there my damn earpiece fell out but right now we're looking at them we're looking at them four games behind that four spot I don't see Denver letting up I don't see the Clippers letting up the young guns okay season in the Minnesota's they've been consistent this entire season you know we got to give them their proper respect they're the real deal they're here to stay and so that four game gap I don't see any of those teams going backwards I see all of them training up coming out of the all-star break ready enough for a long postseason run and especially with Brad Bill going out with a hamstring you know they've been consistently injured this year and only having two out of the three big guys on the floor the majority of the season I don't I don't see them breaking that top four right now crazy that we're saying okay see in Minnesota will stay in the top I did not think we would be here right now did you trailer no I definitely didn't find it's weird Minnesota to me is the sleeper team all season long I expected okay see to kind of make this jump you expected the Clippers the nuggets these teams to be in the hunt Minnesota to me has been the surprise team but I'll tell you this whoever's gonna finish that three or four whether it's you know the Clippers okay see Denver they're not gonna want to play the Phoenix Suns first round so whoever does have that that gap right there they're gonna try and figure out a way towards the end of the season to how do we get New Orleans how do we get Dallas because if Bradley Beal is healthy and this big three is healthy and they had guys I got like Royce O'Neill who you already saw him make his impact last night by making threes hustle plays offensive rebounds this team is gonna be complete and this team is going to be well come postseason time so hopefully this ham string is nothing nothing serious with Bradley Beal but this was a team that I had high hopes for I had high expectations obviously with all the talent health was always gonna be a question with them and the Clippers the Clippers have been healthier they're having a better season but come postseason I don't want to play these guys first round that's for damn sure well we've had a couple mentions of Bradley Beal he of course got hurt shams welcome what is the latest on Bradley Beal it's a left hamstring injury he had the same hamstring earlier in the season and he will not play tonight they had a back-to-back he's not gonna go tonight and he's gonna he's gonna rest until after the all-star break they play again February 22nd they're hopeful that they're gonna be able to use the entire all-star break have him ready to go but I mean it's definitely a concern he's dealt with with the back issue obviously we've discussed that length hamstring he has he had ankle injury as well so across the season already through the first half there's been multiple different injuries that have that have kept him out and that is a concern for the Suns yeah that's it's he seems to be a little bit cursed with the injury bug okay Kings channel let's concentrate in the eight spot right now I think they want to just do enough to get past the play in do you think they have enough to do so I do and I think they're a solid team I think they're a complete team they have a lot of different lineups they can go to and when I'm watching some bonus I don't want this taken out of context because he's not yokich but goddamn he is close this guy he's unbelievable the way he gets these triple doubles if we when yokich did it we talked about it every day when Westbrook did it we talked about it all the time we're talking MVP conversations this guy's doing it you know 17 18 times he's got a crazy streak of 30 and 10 the way he uses his body and creates space and gets off and some rebounds and tips the ball to himself and kind of gets those rebounds and brings it up the floor like a point guard he plays very very similar to a yokich and he's an unbelievable talent he's continued to get a lot better so you mix him with the dynamic guard like Fox and if you can keep getting things from Murray from from you know from perder and guys like this this team is solid and they are balanced but you got to give some bonuses flowers we do not talk about them he got snubbed on the All-Star team him and Fox both deserve to be in there because their team wins they play the right way they play on both sides of the ball and this dude's putting up Goddy number I mean the 35 18 12 that we're getting numb to this that's an outrageous stat line that's a great point Lou are we getting numb to this are we just spoiled as fans that these numbers no longer have the kind of meaning they once did it's a lot it's a lot and I think you're seeing you're seeing a mix of defense not being played that's how the league is structured you know we are in the sports entertainment business where you know we want to see high scores and then we also are seeing some of the most talented guys that you've ever seen some of the most orthodox style of play that you've ever seen with so many bigs playing like guards and you know so many guards changing their games to do things in the stat realm of you know the NBA and so I think we're definitely getting numb to it but at the end of the day it's very entertaining and you're seeing it from guys that you're supposed to see it from you know the superstars are being superstars are all stars are being all stars even the guys that are getting snubbed you know the foxes the bonuses they're even putting up Goddy number so I think there's a surplus of talent guys playing at a high level I think the league is in a good place because of you know who's not in a good place segue the Milwaukee Bucks I I'm excited to hear what you guys have to say about this because what in the world short-handed heat blow them out one twenty three ninety seven Bama to bio was sixteen twelve and eleven his second triple double the season season seventh of his career Nicola yo bitch a career high twenty four points Duncan Robinson with twenty three Yanis did have twenty three eleven and eight took zero free throws they lose by twenty six and they're three and six in the dock rivers era Chandler I mean I knew it was a rough start but what is going on you know what's crazy is if we did the show yesterday I would have praised them how well they looked the night before against inspired they looked defensively how Patrick Beverly just was thrown right into this lineup and fit right in and they were flying around they were switching they were diving on the floor they had that intensity on defense that I hadn't seen this year from Milwaukee and then fast forward twenty four hours later they were awful and they would reverted right back they could they didn't score the ball which was shocking but they they they had no effort and this is a team where with the new coach they're still kind of in this honeymoon phase you can't see lapses like this I don't care if it's on a second night of a back to back this is a team that you should be the city that's below you in the standing city that you might see in the postseason that you have something to prove to so it's weird because I was so ready to praise them the day before on how how much better they looked in the intensity that they played with and then they go and do this and lay an absolute egg and get smacked by a team that they had no business getting smacked by let a guy Jovic go off for a career high who by the way is a solid player and just another product of the Miami Heat and develop I'm sure we'll talk about him later but yeah this this was crazy because I didn't see this coming from one game to the next I'm gonna you know what I'm still gonna give them credit that the game before last they were flying around they look like they were communicating on defense I think this loss is a result of the offense you know I think they didn't play well on an offensive end I think they cleaned up some things defensively that they can hang their hat on the desk that's gonna make them a better team in the long run but I think this is an offensive problem so like I agree with you channel they look they look very motivated and confident on the defense of being the game before last and I was there was something I was looking forward to giving them praise on but this game like I said I think this was the office of this yeah and here's the thing like the game against Denver they go up 44 points in the first half they go up 95 points in the game if they do that their office doesn't have to be so elite because they can still find ways to win games but when they're both not clicking you're not defending you're giving up back to 123 130 points a game and then you're struggling offensively you're gonna really really struggle and it's gonna be hard to win games they have to find some sort of balance where they can create offensive mismatches on that end but then they also they should they're talented enough to be able to win games even when they don't have these explosive offensive games Lou you talked about the defense you've seen some improvement what what has been the biggest change since doc got there that you've noticed he's still putting in his system still getting guys in the right place one thing I can credit doc for that I experienced in my career he's a specialist that making sure guys that that aren't really great on a defensive end he's gonna put them in positions to be successful he's gonna just make sure they're in the right place putting in his team defense concepts with all of these guys and I saw you know he was mixing up different lineups he had a lineup of Jay Crowder Pat Baird Chris Middle Ting Yanis and and one and the low book low pass and that was a really good group for them on a defensive end and they had enough scoring power as well to lead them over and I thought that was a really good group for them and so they're starting to address some of those issues for for the long run and I think doc is still early listen this team had their issues before doc and I mentioned that earlier when you bring in a coach like that when you bring in such a polarizing coach that has you know such a reputation in the league that's gonna put a target on you you know and so some of these things that they had issues with before he was the coach he's trying to patch them up on a fly and he's getting some criticism for because of the rough start but I still think you know they have time to clean these things up all right just a reminder Miami was short-handed shams you got Terry Rozier Josh Richardson both out what's the latest on both of them Terry Rozier's injury was definitely the most scary for the heat and thankfully for them he was diagnosed with a sprained knee on Monday he's week to week my senses after the all-star break there's potential for him to return pretty quickly Josh Richardson though he's been coming off the bench averaging 10 points a game shooting 40% from three the last couple months he has a dislocated shoulder he's gonna be out at least a few weeks before he's gonna be re-evaluated and also they're without Jimmy Butler and he lost a very close family member recently and he's going to spend time away from the team they've been they've granted him a leave of absence it could be an extended period of time for Jimmy Butler obviously we wish him the best and we wish him prayers for his first family and their loss yeah absolutely it's a tough situation whatever that might be the Terry Rozier of it all 12 and a half points a game with Miami but now the knee injury will keep him out for a while I mean look they won this game easily Chandler but in the long term how big a deal is this well I think the fact that it's not a serious injury and all-star weakening coming up here that's that's a huge bonus the injuries like this and to Bradley Beal they basically get a free week to now heal and to kind of focus on just doing nothing that's being ready by the time also weakens over but yeah this guy he struggled a little bit you can see he's pressing he's taken a lot of long mid-range jumpers but I do think for what they gave up I think this is gonna end up being a positive this is a team that's gonna make a run in the post see this team hopefully if they're fully healthy he can really really help that second whether you're starting or second unit he's a bucket he can be a closer for you guys like Jimmy or Bam are having an off night this is the guy that can go and get you 25 30 points so his numbers have been inconsistent he's been a little streaky since he's been there but to new situations a new offense to hold new culture even said it's a different feeling losing here than it was in Charlotte no doubt I think he gets his rhythm post all-star break and this turned out to be a great trade for them we got it the next game is just the game that reminds us all that we're getting older because there's so much youth on the floor in this one thunder and magic okc with the win 127 113 there only a half game behind the T walls right now for that top spot out West Jalen Williams finished with 33 SGA at 32 Jalen Williams back to back games with at least 30 he's been fun to sort of watch emerged this is only his second season Chandler what have you noticed about his game everything he's just gotten better on every aspect he's obviously SGA has become this you know top five player top two an MVP voting and I think he's kind of making a real push to win MVP this year but when you look at this kids numbers and what he does particularly in the fourth quarter he's kind of their closer and he's such a big body he's a big guard he gets to his spots you can't really speed him up he's a capable shooter I think he when he continues to get more consistent from the three point line he's going to it's going to open up his game even more but he gets to the rim he gets to the foul line he defends he's a lot bigger than you think when you see him in person this is another kid that we're gonna be talking about probably as soon as next year you know being an all-star being a top 20 25 player so this team is loaded we talk about it all the time they have you know it's not just SGA it's not just it's not just Jalen Williams they have six to eight kids that are 23 years older younger that are absolute studs that would start on pretty much every other team in the NBA so you know kudos to them they haven't really gone through the rebuilding process they've just got all these assets all these players and to be in the number one spot or flirting with it is truly incredible obviously the rise of SGA has you know made that monumental but now this kid Jalen Williams coming out of nowhere he's a stud too he's he's the Jalen Brown to the Jason Tatum of the future of this team here we are look the 2022 draft that was a fun draft because up until the last second things seem to be moving around Lou but this the first or second meeting but between the one and two picks you have Paolo you have Chet all things considered would you have switched the way they were drafted or are you good with how it went down I'm good with the way it is you know Paolo is obviously proving himself to be a number one guy he's an all-star this year he's a first time all-star very much earned you know let's think about how the Orlando Magic started this season they were on fire and a lot of that was because of him and the way that he played and and the position that he put him in with his leadership and just being a young player and putting them on his back and Chet is also emerging as you know exactly who we thought he was you know he's possibly the rookie of the year this year if if not if something miraculous happens with Wimby I think he's still I think he's still the leader even though Wimby is playing out of his mind basketball right now give him credit but I think you stand Pat and Paolo deserves his number one and Chet deserves his number two I noticed you said possibly rookie of the year we'll we'll come back to that put a pin in it last night there was some fun festivities as the magic retired Shax Jersey he said it would probably be the most impressive one because he knew that LSU and the Lakers would retire his Jersey Chandler you believe that always suit as an Orlando kid you know going to this game at Amway with my grandpa and those pinstripe jerseys Shaq was everything in the city and he wasn't he wasn't there very long and he left us and broke our hearts to the Lakers but this dude was dominant man he average like 24 15 is rookie season he took us to the finals remember he led the NBA in scoring the second or third year was second the other year it was an electric you know you know run there with Orlando and he deserves this and then he took us all the way to the finals against Houston and those were the years those are still my favorite teams with him and Penny and Nick Anderson Horace Grant they had the city on fire and this is much deserved because the minute he walked in you know he was so great he's such a big personality everything he does you know is just he's so charismatic and the city just got really got behind him so this is much deserved and this should have happened a really long time ago because Shaq's the man Shaq's the man Lou you got any memories you want to share all things considered I think we got to we got to realize at that time Shaq was a successful rapper he was a successful movie star Orlando was a brand new franchise trying to get off the ground and Shaq did everything that he possibly could to shine a huge spotlight on the city of Orlando and made them take them serious as a basketball talent along with Penny Hardaway Nick Anderson even Bo outlaw was one of my was one of my fan favorites at that time and so this is very much deserved yeah this is this is very much deserved for Shaq I would agree with him that this was the most impressive because you know you just wasn't sure and so much time has gone by you know but to put a spotlight on Orlando magic basketball Shaquille O'Neal did that and so very much deserved you've been on the floor with him against him was that like it's it's actually pretty scary I'll be honest I'll be honest with you he's one of the one of the tallest biggest humans I've ever seen in my life and I've had the pleasure of getting fouled by him a few times a little harder than I would I would like to appreciate but you know that's that's what stories are made of that's what legends are made up so you know I can grow old and tell my kids I played against Shaquille O'Neal and he sacked the hell out of me a few times and that's that was exciting time in my career to even share the flow but I love that especially if you're close enough you realize how huge he really is as a human being alright we'll take a quick look around the league first story when we had on Monday night a triple double with blocks against the Raptors he finished with 27 14 and 10 and he did it all in 29 minutes gentlemen it's your last chance to jump on the bandwagon with me rookie of the year right now he's a runaway favorite there's room listen I listen he's playing well enough to win rookie of the year we just gotta we gotta find middle ground with with the criteria what do we respect about these awards is it winning is it numbers is it a combination of both does different guys have their own set of rules because he's doing some historical incredible things however it had moved the needle they're still in dead last in the West and so we gotta understand that yes he's a young player and they're in a rebuild and they're gonna put talent around him in the future but at present at this present moment you have a guy that doesn't have the numbers this is God is his but he's playing better basketball on a better basketball team and he's the number two guy you know in the second in the second place team in the West that can possibly finish this season in a number one spot so we just gotta figure out what the criteria is and what do we respect about these awards because if it's just numbers if that's the criteria then when we should be the rookie of the year but if we're talking about the totality of everything it should go to check yeah I got I got some numbers here and listen you can't go wrong either way when B is more of a crazy talent like if I see both of them are playing I'm going to the Spurs game because I'd rather watch him play the shit he does is out of this world that the triple doubles with the 10 blocks it's nuts like he does things on a basketball floor I've never seen anybody do but we're talking about the numbers here right when he's averaging 20 10 3 assists and three and a half blocks in 29 minutes which is nuts 47 from the field 32 from the from the three okay they're 11 and 43 they're dead last in the conference which to me that matters because you're not going to give the MVP to someone dead last you're not going to even give the All-Star a vote to someone dead last you look at chat 17 points game it's only three less eight rebounds it's only two less 2.6 blocks only one block less and the same amount of assists with the way better field goal percentage at 54% and a way better three point percentage at 40% and they're a half game out of first place in the same exact conference against the same exact teams that they're playing with a younger just as young of a team so when I'm looking at it the stat lines nightly from from Wimby are crazy and you see a triple double like this where it's one game and it really is out of this world but when you look at the landscape of everything they've both done the stats aren't far off the minutes aren't far off Wimby plays 20 minutes a game chat plays 30 minutes a game so he really only plays one more minute and is almost just as productive on a winning team so to me I think Wimby is going to be a better pro I think he's going to be you know something we've never seen before but the rookie of the year to me it's it's gotta be a balance of winning you're looking at pretty similar stats on the best team it's pretty similar stats on the worst team I gotta go with Chet still until until they win some more games I don't accept this argument I was thinking about you when I put that all together like yeah I know I could see you going okay I've got some numbers here I'm figuring it out um Shoms you watch a lot of basketball what's the most impressive thing when you watch Wimby so Victor Wiminyama to me it's only a matter of time before he gets a quadruple double in a game four players in league history have had a quadruple double two of them David Robinson Hakim Alajuan they're all tied with one triple double a quadruple double I should say he already had a triple double the other night he's he's shown he can he can do that but the fact that he was he's able to get five assists he can score he can rebound he can pass he can block shots he can play one through five this whole season has been about natural progression for him I think Chet Holmgrim you saw him come out the gates very strong for Victor Wiminyama it's been really a build-up all season you've seen him play 30 minutes a few times over the last several weeks and from my knowledge he is eligible to get into the 30s is this about the games will the season dictate that to me it's only a matter of time could happen this year could happen next year that he gets that quadruple double that he potentially becomes the all-time leader in quadruple doubles and like we have the triple double leaders we could very much have a Victor Wiminyama history setting for quadruple doubles because he can very much do it very soon that sounds silly and still not win rookie of the year he's gonna win rookie of the year I just I know he is you can't punish a rookie just because the team around him isn't as good as the other guys that's silly he's better you can when one team is a legit contender and one team is literally looking at the number one pick again like it's like of course you're gonna put up good numbers your team stinks nope I don't accept it at all I think I I think what he does is just much more impressive but I also am a homer and I recognize that uh Spencer din Whitty in his new home you know he played 6.7 assists four turnovers he had 31 minutes off the bench they did win the game over the Detroit but you know it's hard to tell on the first one Chandler how do you like his fit or how do you think you will like his fit with the Lakers I think I will like it more than this debut I think first of all it's a great game to come back to home game against the Pistons but when you look at this team he's going to be their guy off the bench until Gabe Vincent gets healthy and all you know guys like Cambridge and Vanderbilt we don't know what their starting lineup is going to be but if it's this starting lineup with Dilo and Reeves then what is the guy he's the guy to go get you 20 off the bench he's going to be that you know ball in his hands play making guard that can score in multiple ways so I do like to fit does he move the needle to them to you know to for me to be like whoa like they got a lot better no but but I do think he gives them more depth I think he gives them more shooting which any team can can need and depending on how this final shake up of their starting lineup do they move Dilo back to the bench does Reeves come to the bench do they go back to Cam Reddish in the starting lineup and bring Gabe Vincent as a real point guard in the starting lineup we'll see but as this lineup last night I think he'll have a lot of success kind of being that sixth man ahead of the snake in that second unit he's got to take care of the ball but he's this is his first game it's not easy but I do like to pick up for them a lot Lou I don't know man I don't I don't know I'm I was excited about Spencer Denwitte joining this basketball team that was that was a lackluster uh first game out first showing what better team to go out and have an opportunity to get going against and I just didn't see it but I agree with channel he he's definitely gonna bring some balance to that bench he's capable of having big nights and having big games and giving them that offensive push they need he's also going to sit down and guard as well and so does he move the needle for this basketball team that's yet to be seen I'm not sure but he definitely gives them some depth and they've corrected that problem but uh this debut was a little lackluster for me it is a tough first night out Shoms what was your biggest takeaway I think what I saw is Spencer Denwitte trying to figure out how he fits in this is the Lakers team obviously playing well they they really beat up on the pistons last night the game wasn't really ever close and so you saw a guy that's to me trying to fit fit in and find a spot played as a facilitator seven assists off the bench you saw his chemistry with Christian Wood Wood and with Rui Hachimura and and I think long term the fact that he's played with the Angel Russell Tori and Prince Rui Hachimura Christian Wood I think that does bode well for him uh but like Lou said you know you definitely want to see some more offensive pop but I think over time you could see him uh you know after the five to ten game sample size that's when we're to me gonna know exactly where he fits in what kind of impact can be made that seems more fair five to ten games not the first one that was that was a tough one out we're gonna take a quick break right now they only got about 30 left I know I was gonna say you get maybe five we'll give five when we come back some Shoms scoops and that man has a family run it back sound it's time to hear from Shoms let's talk a little PJ Tucker I know there's some frustration where he's involved Shoms do you have the latest on that PJ Tucker is now away from the Clippers and he will it's expected he's gonna rejoin the team after the all-star break sources tell me but this has been months of frustrations three months he has not played in a single game and the Clippers and Tucker this week I'm told they've had productive conversations to figure out a path forward and potentially a role for him in the second half of the season where he might fit in he has not played since uh November and there's been moments over the last several weeks several months where he has expressed his frustration publicly privately it's been boiling over they needed to have these much uh you know needed conversations between Tucker between the Clippers there there was no trade at the deadline there's not going to be a buyout he's got a contract player option for next season at about 11.5 million dollars so he's not going to let that go the Clippers obviously are not going to waive that as well so the the size needed to get on the same page this week we'll see where that leads them after the all-star break but PJ Tucker is now officially not going to be around the Clippers until after the break it's tough because the team's doing well Lou but and then you just see this it's got to be frustrating what's your reaction? Yeah it's a it's a funny situation I've been when the team is doing well but you know individually you're not in the position that you want to be in and it's frustrating you know you want to be able to contribute you want to be on the floor you want to be part of the success and and feel like you're you're earning your money you're earning your keep and PJ Tucker is a very competitive person you know a lot of these guys would take their money and sit there and ride on a bench and be happy and and fade off in the sunset especially at 38 years old PJ is showing you that he's he's still ready to compete he still wants to play and contribute and so I I can respect and appreciate that out of him. I didn't think about that you could just sit and just get your money I know I would uh Jailer what is your reaction? I did I did Michelle I sat I sat there and and basically rotted and picked up a golf club and that's that was the rest was history so listen he he's healthy which is different than I was he uh he feels like he can help but look he's he's on arguably the deepest team in the in the NBA and and when you look at their roster there's a lot of guys that can do what he does that are even younger but you know again he's got the player option he's set to make a lot of money they're not going to buy him out he's not going to give up that bread unless he can get unless he can get some of it back somewhere else but you know PJ Tucker has always been a versatile player it's a utility player that can knock down the corner three that can guard multiple positions he just he's kind of in a situation right now where that's not needed and like you said the team is winning they're having six and so they don't think that they need to add anything different he's feeling bad because he's not helping during any of the success so it's it's it's it's kind of goes both ways but at the end of the day he's in a he's in a pretty good situation you're 38 years old you're getting paid 11 million dollars so take take it take it and uh and take it straight to the bank but I'm just everybody wants more so I've never seen a 38 year old like this want more but uh you know he he can still probably contribute and that's what and he knows that so he wants to play it's competitive inside um all right shams this I was watching this one live and I don't care for it at all uh referee Ed Malloy from Monday night acknowledging that this foul that was called right here on Jalen Brunson against the Rockets was called incorrectly what more can you tell us about how the league is handling this catastrophe the Knicks yeah the Knicks are filing uh uh plan to file an official protest of the game it was incorrect judgment call and protests to win a protest you have to prove that there was a misapplication of a rule that a rule was not applied correctly uh but in in the technicality this this was a judgment call the referee made a judgment call of a foul and so the chances of winning this protest I'm not so sure about the league once they get this protest they're going to take five days up to five days to make a determination on whether they're going to allow the final play of the game in overtime to to continue and to be played on but this was by the refs by their own admission they messed up the call it was an incorrect call brutal this thing was on its way to overtime Lou nothing's gonna happen yeah nothing's gonna happen I've been on teams with countless amount of protests we're we're in a practice facility raising hell the next day trying to get taped in to the league and the only thing you get back is our bad it was the incorrect call and we're moving on nothing is going to change the outcome of this game it's a tough it's a tough tough break for the for the New York Knicks but nothing nothing is going to happen I think the league should take a look at these things and it's okay every once in a while for Ed Malloy to come out publicly and be held responsible and say I got this wrong I think the fans would appreciate that more opposed to it being so quiet and so mysterious when referees screw up games huh yeah I think I think there needs to be some you know override rule where if you see that this is incorrect like get it right and they saw this the moment that this play happened take 20 seconds review it even I don't care if you're at a review if you already wasted your review and you were wrong like that's not right for the game to end this way and and I love the Ed Malloy came out and admitted that it's wrong because the world can see it was wrong and this could be the difference in the Knicks getting home court advantage or not getting home court advantage and again that's a little dramatic and it's just one play of a game and big long season but this has been happening quite often and there's a and I know refs are humans but they're getting it wrong and we have so much science and technology to correct that like let's find a way to use that to make sure teams aren't going home pissed off and disgruntled because this was just a blown call and there's no way with all the all the replay all the Sikakis all the all the difference you know guys watching this just get it right and that's not that's not that much to ask for as a player as a coach you don't want to feel like your your team was slighted in any way and we have the resources to do that do they get fine do you think it makes sense do they keep like a record of each you know let's just say one ref in particular has a repeated habit of making these bad wrong calls are they're fine absolutely good yeah they absolutely they get fine and reprimanded the problem is it's kept secret we you know the players and the fans we're not privy to the information but they they definitely get fine and reprimanded the way you can tell you can tell you can see which refs are in the playoffs and which aren't fair enough especially yeah the ones with a lot of experience so they they should i think it would help the refs too if they made that public because it wouldn't feel like they're just getting away with these mistakes all all our stuff is public all our technical all our comments why does the refs any different yeah that that's interesting to me um shams i appreciate you we'll see you tomorrow and you got sticking around because we're doing that man has a family uh starting out with a little john collins if you will oh this is the first time i seen john get up on a rim since he left trade man it's good to see i like you on the labs out there you time he always had the bounce he had always had the bounce he can fly not see your little i see here is too little well this is you gotta you gotta get on that that's pretty good again everybody wants wimby everybody wants a little bit it's body little man the rookie of the year rudder up hold back michelle is is that your key michelle i've seen enough a white a white man a white man is tough though you know you can't say white like that in public man what is wrong with you ah he's german he's he's german he's german oh great it works oh god i miss the highlight missing chiller taylor handericks hey hey oh oh no oh man i'm on the rim that was that was weird i like this is the first this is the rookie from ucf what that was gonna be nice this the first time here is name and it's not i was just gonna say that is the first time we've said his name on the show i didn't even say it oh my god welcome to the league young fella rice mcgowns oh dear these people okay uh rice mcgown mcgowns what's up nice to meet you back okay our next guy we've had a few times oh yeah i know this guy lives in my building yeah oh ski yeah you know what it's all it's on a point card does it really count counts yeah i like i like this man yeah big oh get off there around the way oh man all in his face he leaves the league and nosebleeds too this is okay my that was that i meant what he did these bad shots i hate it but this oh my god all of that that's like something i would do on like a eight foot rim oh my right this this is fish of price league right here that's silly it oops we've seen that before when he gets going left like that that's what he usually takes off it's kind of mean because all the kids like him and now he got that going for you the two hand too just knows you had no fear you didn't see anybody oh just how disrespectful i'm gonna say a two-hand dunk and traffic is just disrespectful i ain't worried about none of y'all don't even care or take a quick break when we come back a little you buy in that featuring someone important that was great run it back for turns anybody sitting here looking at the Laker team and them talking about they can actually contest in the west for a title is delusional okay tell her you buy that i thought he was gonna go calm but i mean first these guys say some of the craziest shit that it's really crazy delusional no but like is it realistic no like they're probably not gonna win the west they're probably not gonna be contenders can they get hot for a month and then stay healthy and other teams get banged up and have some injuries and then not go their way yeah but no when you look at the teams there's much better teams in the western conference there's much better teams in the eastern conference so i don't see them making a push they didn't really make big moves at the deadline to better their team i think Spencer Denwood gives them a little bit more scoring um but when you look at kind of everything going on the mba and all the teams i just don't think they do have enough so i i'm buying i'm buying it but like i wouldn't be surprised if they did i mean you're kind of describing the word delusional though in fairness it's kind of i mean listen if anything can happen it's the mba but i don't think it's not like they're saying the pistons or the wizards not like it's not ridiculous no i know but okay lou uh two mystery teams apparently believe that LeBron James will consider signing with them if they draft brawny uh are you buying that teams should consider drafting brawny in the hopes that LeBron will follow yeah i'm buying it LeBron has said publicly over and over and over he's sticking around long enough to play with his sign so if i'm teams and i want to shout out LeBron James at 40 years old 41 years old draft brawny you know but i'm in agreement with austin rivers here and i'm going to say this publicly i think this is a bad idea i want everything that brawny gets it should be deserved and it should be earned if it's under the cloud of in hopes of somebody's going to sign his father as well this puts a little this puts a different type of energy around him being drafted i want to see him earn everything and get what he deserves and be respected as his own man but i am buying that if you draft him you do get a shot at lebron as well yeah i feel bad for him by the way i think there's going to be more than two teams i think there's going to be like like 26 teams that are going to possibly look at this if they've if it's if the kids available in the second round like and you can get him and lebron now someone gonna waste a lottery pick ah i don't know that but yeah if if the draft keeps going and i've seen mark cuban draft signup sing out of india to do dan fagan a favor with the 60th pick in the draft if i can get the brawn james by drafting brawnie spames you bet your ass i'm doing it i feel bad for brawny right off the top all right jaylen brown we know is going to be in the slam dunk contest but channel are you buying that the fact that he's doing it will open up the doors for more superstars to enter yes i think i think it just provides that spark and it kind of gets it back to what we're used to seeing we're used to seeing michael jordan dominique wilkins vince carter we want to see the best players in the dunk contest kudos jaylen brown for getting that kick started who knows we're gonna take quick break we come back wrap things up here on run it back run it up to run it back run it up run it back couple seconds left here we have erin holiday on the show tomorrow of course the guy who was fouled what are you gonna ask him blue you first first question what do you think about the call oh see i think i'm gonna ask him do you think you should have taken those free throws or offered the overtime listen on on a serious note i'm gonna ask him what's it like for him and his brothers to be so successful in the league and nobody ever talks about the holiday brothers okay yeah that's what i that's i want to know how those backyard how those backyard games were growing up i want to know when they go home now for thanksgiving or Christmas yes get back there and play compete uh that's what i want and i want to know did jaylen brought some really value there because that was bullshit the next shuttle one yeah he knows he knows i always wanted to know like who gives the get the best gifts like it must be insane to have the whole family just be killer at basketball and be making money from it yeah this will be fun timely timely guests for us to have on this week um channeler i wish we could have gotten some of the behind the scenes of the super bowl festivities afterwards but i know they're not suitable okay fine fine but i really want to see uh that does it for us today we will be back tomorrow in the morning have a great night run it up run it back like a running back you know and all over the map because you make it cloud