 Welcome back to Linuxcast, I'm here with Matt. And I'm Tyler. All right, so this is the Linuxcast. We talked about Linuxy things. And we prepared for a podcast that I'm both equally excited for and unprepared for, seeing as how I was running late. And yeah, it's just been one of those days. So Tyler, my friend, my gentoo loving, compiling friend, once you've compiled your answer, what have you done on Linux this week? Oh, I'm sorry, it was compiling. Give me just a second. How could they freeze? That'd be hilarious. That would have been hilarious. So good. But really in all honesty, I haven't been doing too much with a computer because I mean, I'm up here hanging out with Scott, enjoying Colorado. Can we just hold on there? Cause every time you say that, it just bugs the... You used to live in Tennessee and now you're in Colorado and you say, up here. Okay. I move sideways. Okay. I'm just saying your sense of direction is completely off. Okay. You continue. I just wanted to point that out. It's much easier to say up here than like I moved left over here. Like, I don't know. But you didn't move to Canada. Okay. It's something, dude. It feels like it, man. And it's cold as hell out here. Well, actually, I mean, it's as cold as if hell froze over, but whatever. We have the lakes protecting us. So we're, I'm happy about that. Yeah. I wish. Ball in 20 degrees. But I really have, I've really just been messing around with like making my own custom kernel and stuff. And in doing that, I figured out why my LFS didn't boot, which was because of the init ram FS, which Ben told me I didn't need, which is not necessarily his fault. He was using a much older computer that didn't require stuff like EFI and all that good stuff. So understandable, but I did need it. So I've compiled my own kernel. That's, I don't, I really don't notice any difference, but you know, hey, I've customized my kernel. Just for fun though. Now that you know what was wrong with LFS, would you go back and try again? I'm allowed to just to like swear on the show, right? Like really swear. We do all the time. Good. Absolutely. Fuck. No. Hell no. I saw Ben talking, like Ben talked with me more about it. And I've read more through BLFS, which is beyond LFS, which is essentially beyond the base install. And it is not a system that you would want to run as a daily driver at all. Like Jintu, because yes, you do have to compile stuff, people think it's a lot more complicated than it is. Look, Portage might have some quirks that you're unfamiliar with, but it manages to manage your packages very well. I would not want to use LFS at all because I'm a person who like steam and that kind of stuff. No, no, no, no, no. You don't ever have to worry about me even trying LFS by the way. There's no monetary value that I could ever place on that that would ever get me to try it. Although I think last week I did say that with a million dollars a month would I actually try it? Just put it way up there because I'm never ever going to do that. I watched LFS is one of those things where like it's only for learning. That's it. And also as someone who's gone through the learning, yes, I did learn a lot, but I don't know that you necessarily, like I don't need to know exactly how Cisvianet works because I don't really care about Cisvianet, but yet I know exactly how the run levels work. I know everything about Cisvianet, not everything, but I know way too much that I should. All right, so my turn. So I have some things. So first of all, I've been playing zero AD. Thank you, Tyler. I love it. I've limited myself to one game a day. So I have some willpower there. I am God awful. I'm so bad. Where it turns out is I'm just really, really slow at doing stuff. I feel like I have a lot of time. Like I said, the word I used yesterday when I messaged you, I said lollygagging and that's exactly what it is. It's like, I have plenty of time here. I can create all the things I want. I can, you know, none of this stuff actually matters, but I'm going to go ahead and build it anyway. What is it? It's just, yeah, you'd spam homes, by the way. But I suck at zero AD, but I'm learning because last time we played on Sunday, I got my ass handed to me. It was fun. Anyway, so that's- If you can take DT's advice and just attack early, it works really well against that AI, really well. Okay. I'm just going to help you cheat the system. I want to learn the best way to do it, so I can actually get an actual human. Anyways, so I have a couple things to rant about today. The first one is, Endeavor OS has some issues with compiling programs that are written in C and the C family of languages. So for example, the audacity stuff, like audacity itself, tenacity, audacity, especially those last two that don't actually have binaries that you can download. So if you want to go through and download a binary of audacity itself, you can do that through the arch repose. But the problem with that is that it's an old version of audacity, it's still a two dot whatever. And it doesn't use the new file format for audacity. All of my projects for the videos I've already recorded, the podcast and all that stuff, use the new file format. So I had to have a new version of audacity, the three dot whatever that used the new file format. So, and the only way to do that is to compile it from the AUR. Now I did end up getting straight up audacity to compile, but audacity and audacity and tenacity, neither one of those would compile, they both had make errors. And as far as I can tell, that's just an Endeavor OS problem. Like it worked fine on Arco, it worked fine on Manjaro, but it does not work, neither one of them work on Endeavor and that, like the reason why I bring up, it's not that big of a deal cause I did get audacity to work, but the audacity that comes straight from audacity, the new version, like the newest version they've released is the most atrocious piece of software I've ever seen. Like they've taken out so much of the good stuff and they've gone through and redesigned like the actual timeline and the waveform and stuff like that so that it has like a title above it, which is stupid. And you remember that tool that you could switch to that would actually just drag the waveform, you know, wherever you wanted to? They got rid of it, it's gone. Like they took it out. Like, why did you take it out? That's like, that's an essential piece of thing that you need in order to move things around. The only way I can figure out how to move stuff now is with the multi-tool. And the multi-tool actually goes through and does everything, it changes the volume of the height of the waveform, it moves things around, it cuts things, like so you have no clue what you're doing. It's the stupidest thing I've ever seen in my life. So that was kind of like a combined rant between, endeavor caused me to have to go use this piece of trash and now I have to use this piece of trash and it is painful to edit things now. Like it's so bad, like I dread actually going through and editing this podcast later on because I'm gonna have to go through and like move things around. Cause I have to actually go through and like line up both your recording and my recording so that those claps actually are, you know, and trying to do that without that tool that actually is meant to drag things around. Just seriously, like what the hell is going on? Like first of all, thank you endeavor for, you know, not having the ability to compile C programs, which is like, the kernel's written in it. You should be able to be able to do this just fine. And if it was just one of them, if it was just tenacity or something, it would have been fine. Like, cause I just figured it was tenacity's problem, but it's both of them, like they're separate projects. They shouldn't be having the same exact problem. It's really weird. So yeah, that was pissing me off. What else did I want to run about? I'm sure there was something else. We should have a whole section every week of just me just ranting about how something pissed me off. That would be great. Yeah, but it's just also the screen flashing thing has got to go. So I'm going to fix that next week, whether that's through the loopback thing or just hooking up a different webcam cause that's fucking annoying. That's why I stopped using the Vrio. It's just, it's not worth it. We keep saying we're going to use something other than Discord cause I blame Discord cause it doesn't do anywhere else. Yeah, it's nowhere other than Discord. But the problem is, is it might not be Discord. It might just be like WebRTC or something like that. Well, WebRTC is not the protocol for the cameras, is it? I don't know. Either way, we keep forgetting it to try something else. Cause if we just tried something else and it fixed it there, we just used, you know, even if we had to put up with like element or something. Yeah. Gross. We could go through and figure out what that dialer's for. God, I would so love to find out. I just want to know. All right, so that is it for that section. So contact information. This is the brand new contact information. So you'll have to forgive me if I've, if I mess this up. So you can subscribe at thelinuxcast.org. There's actually a website there now. You can support us on Patreon at patreon.com slash linuxcast. You can subscribe to us on youtube, youtube.com slash linuxcast. All of our other contact information is at thelinuxcast.org slash contact. There you'll find links to the email, Twitter, and of course, Zany's YouTube channel as well. So make sure you head on over there if you want to get in contact with us, you can do so. So that is the shortened contact information section. That's it. I like it. Much more manageable. It can't, when it's only four lines long, it's much harder to fuck up. Turns out. Yes, sir. COVID. I hope not, man. Excuse me. That's just all that smoking you've been doing over there. Yeah, yes, that's exactly what it is, I'm sure. And I'm sure that was very pleasant for everybody else to listen to. So I'm just, you're welcome. All right, so Ty, every week we go through, we scour the internet for news. The biggest, most impactful news that's going on anywhere in the world right now. It's not as if there's like a war going on or anything. But definitely this is the most important news you'll hear all week. So Tyler, what is your piece of news this week? Did you know that Ubuntu Mate is only gonna have, or not only, what am I talking about? Is gonna have flat pack support out of the box by default, which is awesome. Which I kind of like, I kind of would like that we just start pushing anything other than snaps. Like, just please, I don't like snaps. Yeah, I agree with you there. I love, I'm beginning to like flat packs more and more. But also, this doesn't apply to the Firefox thing. Like they're gonna continue to use the Snap of Firefox. Yeah, yeah. Which is just like, no, you were so close. Why didn't you just go the whole way? Like, come on, man, like you could, there's a flat pack of Firefox. It does the exact same thing. It's just, you know, better, like all the way around. So why didn't you just go the whole, just completely rip snaps out and make everybody seriously happy? Why would you wanna make everything better? It's gross, come on, man. Maybe they are, you know, maybe they have that in the future and they just can't do it yet, you know what I mean? Maybe that's what's going on. Hold on a second. We find out the Snap is critical to the functioning of the Ubuntu system. Well, what it turns out is that Canonical found out that I hate snaps so much and decided to poison me. That's why I'm dying. That's what it is. Okay. The thing is I haven't coughed all day long and then all of a sudden we start recording and all of a sudden I can, half my lung is hanging out. Oh, picture that. See, you just, I told you Anthrax Linux was dangerous, man, can't be using that. All right, so yeah, my thing seems to be, is it just me or should Mate just like be the Ubuntu? Like I like Plasma a lot too. So like they could use Plasma and be happy, but the development team for Mate should be like in charge of Ubuntu. They go through and they do all this new and stuff they go through. Like for example, I watched Martin Wimpress's Twitch the other day and he went through and replaced Compton with PyCom. Like Compton has been abandoned now for like three years. Like it hasn't, no updates for three years, right? Like every Ubuntu flavor, whatever, still used Compton in some fashion unless they had their own compositor. In the fact that they went through and actually he went through and integrated into Mate tweak. Like it's there, it's cool, right? It just seems like they're always more forward. Sensible? Yeah, it's insensible, yeah, and not so attached to their pride. Oh, snaps are awesome. We're gonna shove them down everybody's throat as far as possible until you gag on it. If you know what I mean. I get dark really fast. But it's actually kind of accurate. Well, it's just like, come on, man. I used Ubuntu the other day, the latest to do a video on and I tried to open up Fairfax and it was like, it took like 20 seconds to load. Like my computer from the year 2000, which was a gateway computer came in 22 boxes, I've told the story before, would have loaded a browser faster than a Snapple load on a cold boot. Like it's just like either. You love them, right? Like either abandon snaps or just make them better. Like you realize people would stop hating snaps if they were just better, right? If you just make them better, people would use them. Let's see, that's the problem. Can't take a turd and make it better. Come on, now. I mean, like what are you gonna do? Put some more cream on top of it? It's still a pile of turds, like. I don't know if you're probably too young for this. You're probably like five years old when this movie came out. One of the American Pie movies had Stiffler eating it. They looked like a chocolate, but it was actually a dog turd. Every time somebody says polish a turd, it reminds me of that scene. God, those movies were ages and ages ago. Wow. We're not gonna get any movies. I do remember the American Pie movie. First of all, can we just hold on a second? Like they made more than one of those movies. But also, it's surprising how many movies have sequels that you didn't really know existed. So for like every example, there are three John Wick movies. I had no clue there are three John Wick movies. Also, that one with Liam Neeson, the one where his family keeps getting kidnapped, like first of all, man, like you maybe put like a tracker on them or something. Obviously. Hold on, you didn't realize that there were multiple John Wick's? We're gonna have to go back to that. No, I don't, I've never seen the first one. I didn't know there was any more of those. I had no clue there were sequels. But also, like there's a movie with Jason Statham and it called The Mechanic. It had Don Sutherland in it. But I don't remember who the other, the main character was, but it's a horrible movie. It's like not a good movie at all. They made a sequel to it. Like they made a sequel to that horrible, horrible movie was really bad. And I don't even understand how they, it's like, I don't even know how they made a sequel to it. It's like, it's really weird. Also, they were planning on making a sequel to The Departed. Have you ever seen The Departed? Really? They were gonna make a sequel to that? Like how do you make a sequel to something where every single character except for one dies? Like every, okay, spoiler alert. Everyone at The End of The Departed dies. Like they get shot in the head at the end of the movie or some variation of the case like everyone. Martin Shinkett's thrown off the top of a building. Jack Nicholson gets shot in the chest. You know, Matt Damon gets shot in the head. Leonardo DiCaprio gets shot in the head. You know, they all die at the end of the movie. The only main character that's still there, if you want to call them main characters, Mark Wahlberg's character, he's still alive. Oh, and Alec Baldwin, but he's so minor in that movie. But still, I mean, like, how do you make a sequel to that? We got off the track. I love the fact that we did go off track only to talk about the fact that it's ridiculous that Hollywood will fund like sequels to already stupid movies where like you can't make a sequel to it. Like there's no possible way, they're like, we will make it work. All right, we'll bring half the characters back from the dead. They all magically survived a bullet shot to the face. Okay. Yeah, it's the way they do Batman and Spider-Man and all that stuff. Just change actors and all of a sudden it's a new arc like in the comic books, you know? Okay. We really should refrain from mentioning movies because every time we mention a movie, we just, you know, oh, look movies. We're talking about movies instead. Movies is way more interesting than Linux. All right, so my news item of the week is that, and I'm pretty sure that this was news item of last week, but I, you know, didn't talk about it, but OBS 27.2 was released and is now the flat pack version of this is the official version of OBS that you, and I highly recommend everybody downloads it. Like everybody, you should use this version of OBS. It is so much better. If for no other reason than it's actually up to date. So if you use the arch version in the arch repositories, it's like five versions behind. And normally you think arches this distro that prides itself on being like, I don't know, the latest and greatest of everything. Like the, what the hell's going on in the background right there right now? I just, God just picked up, buddy. Tyler, someone's kidnapping your dog. You should contact Liam Neeson. Buddy, no. I will, wherever you are, I will find you. Taken, that was the name of those movies. Yeah, I never watched the second ones cause I couldn't get past the fact that, wait, somebody else was taken. Like, come on man, how much bad luck do you need? Poor guy. Anyways, what was I saying? Oh, the flat pack. So the arch stuff is so far behind and it wouldn't be that big of a deal, but the newer OBS stuff has a ton of new features, specifically YouTube account and integration. So you can actually, instead of using your stream key, you just sign them, authenticate with your account and then you can go through and down. You can doc your chat there. You can show some statistics, it's all really good and it does this for a lot of things. It does it for Twitch, it does it for StreamyOS and Streamlabs and all this stuff and it's really good, it's like excellent. It is a little weird that they move, with a flat pack version moves the folder for where the configuration files are stored, but once you figure that out, you can just move all your stuff over. It wasn't that hard at all. I have found that some transforms aren't there, but also plugins seem to still work. So I'm going to mess around with some plugins later to make things snazzy. So yeah, that's the 27.2 release of OBS. And I think this is another reason why just to go back to our previous conversation before we got into movies. This is just another reason why flat packs are better than snaps, by far. Now, you can, first of all, completely open source as far as I know, but also, I don't know why this is true, but I feel like I trust Red Hat, even though they're owned by IBM. I feel like I trust them more than I trust Canonical, maybe just because I have this thing against the boom too, but I think that's... Well, wait, hold on. That should make sense to you though, because Red Hat does not have a track record of making ass-in-ine decisions. Like... True. I mean, I'm sure they have, but they don't have a running track record. Also, if Red Hat... Okay, so here's the thing. If Red Hat screwed over the open source community, they'd lose every single customer they had because literally, open source is their business. Like, if they control system D, Pulse Audio, Wayland, literally everything that makes Linux freaking Linux comes out of the Red Hat. Society of brothers or whatever, you know what I mean? They're a secret society. If they messed things up, the entire open source community would come at them with torches and pitchforks. That doesn't feel the same with Canonical. They piss people off all the damn time and they don't seem to care, you know what I mean? So another rant, like seriously, like we're moving from one right to another. Yeah, so that's definitely the lie, the whole flat packs makes me feel like I can trust them a little bit more, but... Anyway, so that is the news. Moving on to the next thing, which is the main topic, which is gonna be a little weird. So first of all, we should say the sufferer. So the main topic is, is Rust the future of everything? And the first thing we should say is that neither Tyler or I are actually developers of any kind whatsoever. You know, much more code than I do. And that's not actually saying all that much, right? If I'm... I mean, I would not consider myself a professional developer at all. Like he knows some code and I know some code, but less code, so we're not developers. So just gonna put that out there, but we're gonna talk about Rust today and why it's so damn popular. So I actually did research for this topic, which is, I mean, like a first time for everything. I also the last time. Matt, I need you to just hold up, all right? Listen to me good, all right? You cannot come into a podcast and be like, I was unprepared. That's why I was late. You were late because you were doing research, dude. I did not do any research. I wanted to know why Rust is actually more popular. What are the benefits of Rust? Cause I had no clue. Like I hear everything like, Hey, this is written in Rust. This is written in Rust. Oh, it's written in Rust. It has to be good. And I wanted to know why. So Tyler, why do you think Rust is actually the future of everything? Why is everybody so obsessed with this language? I mean, to me, I've been very interested in wanting to learn Rust here recently. I've actually considered taking a lot of the code base that I have for the game that I'm working on and transitioning and over to Rust and seeing just what Rust game libraries exist because I know they do exist. Excuse me. I'm not quite sure how flushed out they are, but I really want to start learning Rust. It seems like a really fun language to work with. But for me, the reason why I think Rust is so damn good is cargo. Like they're the way in which you can write a piece of software in Rust and then easily distribute it to anyone that does use Rust programs is really, really nice. Cargo, I really don't have the experience I have with cargo with any other languages I really use on a daily basis. Python would be the closest, but cargo and Rust, it's just, it's a beautiful match. Like it's so easy to use cargo to install your software. I really like it. It reminds me of Pip a little bit. Just a little bit. Yeah, and everybody should be surprised that I know what Pip is, by the way. Very impressed. She'd be very impressed. All right, so from the things that I've read, the reason why Rust is so important and why people seem to like it is because it is supposedly more secure and it has a lot of the, it has a similar syntax to C++ but doesn't have the drawbacks of C++. And it also will allow concurrent programming, whatever that is. Again, not a developer. So can't tell you all what these new fangled words are actually supposed to be meaning. But from the people who are detractors of Rust, they seem to think that just because it solves some of the problems that the C languages have, doesn't necessarily mean that it's not gonna have problems of its own, which seems to be something that the fanboys of Rust kind of ignore. People are, it's weird to think that there are fanboys of a programming language, but there definitely are. Like there's an entire Python community that are very passionate about Python, right? And Python outside of that community is kind of maligned because it's slow to compile, right? And so there are definitely fanboys of Rust as well. And from what I've read, again, I don't know this to be true, but a lot of those fanboys will overlook the fact that no language is perfect, no language is perfectly secure. And while it may be true that Rust will solve some of the insecurity that is presented through C++ and C, it doesn't necessarily mean there aren't other vulnerabilities that would be there that might exist in Rust itself just because it's a new language and, you know, I mean, no one's perfect. So obviously the language can't be perfect. So it seems like there's two sides of a coin here. My question is, should it be something that everybody rewrites their stuff in? Because literally like everything is being rewritten in Rust right now, like you see like everything from like neo-fetch alternatives written in Rust, like window managers written in Rust, like everything's written in Rust these days. And some of it doesn't even like make sense why you did it. Like if you're just doing it to learn Rust, it makes sense. But if you're going through and doing a whole, you know, like reboot of your project from ground up to in order to change the language, I mean, you really have to have a goal of why Rust would be better than what you did before, I think. Which I'll explain why for ease of distribution. I mean, if you're a small project, no one really knows about you. It takes a lot of like time and shit to be able to like make releases and distribute them. Like get the releases loaded. It takes a lot more effort than something like Rust and cargo. It is extraordinarily easy to distribute packages using Rust. I mean, essentially whoever has Rust installed in their PC, they can run cargo install and then the name of your program. And it'll find it and download it as long as you've put it up there. So I think the ease of distribution with Rust is kind of a why a lot of people want to go with it. It makes the end user experience of installing your and compiling from source incredibly easy. So. Okay, so let's talk a little bit about the biggest thing. There are pushes to make Rust a first class citizen in the Linux kernel. And at first it looked like it might not happen, but now it's almost for sure going to happen. It hasn't even started already. Now they're not talking about rewriting the Linux kernel and Rust. That's what a lot of people like when that first was suggested, there was like all these headlines in like the Republic and ZDNet. Like, oh my God, they're gonna rewrite their kernel and Rust like no, no. First of all, that would take 10 years to do because it's like 20 million lines of code or such. Again, I don't think it's actually that many lines of code, but it's still a lot of lines of code and it'd take a long time. Plus it would be hard, right? But so they're just talking about doing a lot of drivers and stuff like it would be in Rust because a lot of times the most of the security vulnerabilities that come through and affect Linux kernel are because of drivers, stuff that has affected the CPU and the GPU and printers a lot of the times because it turns out once you write a printer driver, you're not gonna invest any time actually updating that thing. Some of the printer drivers, I don't know if anybody knows this, but some of the printer drivers are actually 30 years old. They were written in 1995 and they have not been updated since. And there's well over five guys using that driver today. Even the like the cup server or whatever is something that's like maintained by like one dude. And he works for Apple of all companies. Like, so like the thing that controls printing on Linux is something that's not necessarily maintained by like a gigantic corporation. It's just like a couple of the guys. And that's the way most open source projects are. But you know, that sometimes causes problems. Like log4j or whatever, like log4j was like maintained by like two guys, right? And then it crippled the world for like two weeks. You know what I mean? Like, it was like, it made the nightly news. And that's the kind of thing we're talking about here. So that's the kind of stuff I think that they're probably trying to look at and see if Rust will actually, you know, kind of help that kind of stuff, but whether or not it actually is solving a problem. I don't know, I really can't really answer. I think it is. But I don't think it's necessarily the issue that everyone's praising it for. I don't think the security of Rust versus C++ or C is really, I don't have any grounds to talk about it, but I really don't think that's what most people care about. It's more of the end user experience. Like using Rust as just someone who uses software is really nice. Like it is exceptionally nice. You don't have to install PIP. You don't have to do anything extra. You just install the language. And then if you want a program that's written in it, cargo install it. You're all good. Like, it's really nice. Yeah, the security thing bugs me a little bit too. Like, cause I was telling Sandy before, you may solve some problems, but you're always going to find new problems to have just because that's just the way the nature of things. Well, everything's flawed. And the Linux community often, I mean, I guess every community has this thing where something new comes out and it does seem to do things better. So they raise it up on a pedestal and think that this is the greatest thing ever. But they ignore the fact that just because it's new, shiny, and does some things good doesn't necessarily mean that it doesn't also have flaws that you didn't possibly think of. It happens not just in coding, but with everything that's released that comes out that's new and shiny and stuff like that. Every time a new iPhone is released, people think, oh, this is the next greatest thing that Apple came out with. And you get it and it turns out it's just an iPhone. It still does the same thing your old iPhone did, only that you were a fool and paid $1,400 to buy a new iPhone. And you still got the same notch that you had last time. Enjoy the phone. It's still to make cell phone calls that you're not gonna make. First of all, call your mother. Okay, everybody just pause this right now, pull over in your car and call your mother, okay? Now, just call your mother. That's more important than us talking about Linux and also more important. And it's also the reason why you spent so much money on your brand new iPhone. It's to call your mom. Call your dad too, but he's just gonna grunt at you for most of the time. So that conversation is gonna be very short. The mother's much more important. All right, so do we have anything more to say about Rust? I don't think so. Now, the question is, should I learn Rust? And I think the answer to that question is no, I should continue on my journey to learn Python. Well, I will be learning Rust. So if anybody wants to see that, that'll be coming soon to the channel. Oh, you're gonna make a YouTube video. I didn't know you still did that. Yeah, I know, man. I know, I've pretty much given up. It's only been a few days, okay? It's only been a few days. It's been so long, way too long. All your subscribers are gone and dead by now. I know in YouTube days, one day is equal to seven years. You go one day and YouTube's like, all right, so I guess we're done. People probably think you're joking, but the thing is, there's a reason why I release a video every day because I've seen, when I take days off, views just tank. And the thing is, I know this is not for everyone. If YouTube, it's like you've trained YouTube. So if you start off publishing a video every single day, YouTube continues to expect you to publish a video every single day. Otherwise it removes you from the algorithm. Nope. Like if you're like DT or Linus Tech Tips or whatever, not Linus Tech, they do every day, but MKBHD who does one a week, I'm assuming. His videos have trained the algorithm to expect one once a week. So as long as he maintains that schedule, his views probably do fine. Whereas if you've trained it to do every day and you don't do it every day, you're boinked. Like I took a day off and like all of a sudden my channel is dead and Linus is so stupid. I hate the YouTube algorithm, it's just absolutely stupid. All right. By the way, we've been recording only for 39 minutes. Like we've made it through our week in Linux, the contact information, the news, the main topic in under 40 minutes. Plus we spent like five minutes talking about movies. Yep. This has been impressive, man. So either we didn't have much to say or we're just flying right through it. All right. So moving on to the last section of the podcast actually is the thingy of the week. Now we call this thing the thingy of the week because there's no better name for it other than the thingy of the week. It's just, it's the thingy of the week. There's, what else would you call it? Tip of the week, absolute week. Definitely thingy of the week is the best name. So Tyler, your thingy of the week. Did you find your thingy? I mean, did you make sure? Oh, I found my thingy. I did find it. Wait, what thingy did you choose? So my thingy of the week is gonna be grub themes, okay? Like do not neglect this at all because I never got into grub themes. I know you could theme grub, but I had no idea how simple and easy it was and kind of awesome. Like you can switch five different grub themes in like two minutes easily. It's no problem. And they're kind of really nice to have your bootloader actually have some pizzazz to it, you know? It's really nice and there's so many. Thank you for walking the dog, Scott. But yeah, that's my thingy of the week and I definitely recommend people check them out. There's also gentoo grub themes. I don't know that they're made by Matt. They could be, we all know, you know, he goes undercover, makes gentoo stuff all the time, then acts like he hates it and is afraid to try it and all that stuff, you know, all that. I'm secretly the lead developer of the gentoo project. You just don't know. Okay. That would be awesome if like Josh just came out and he's like, I, guys, I found it. I found it. It's like, it's a link to like a bio like on you and you're the lead gentoo dev. You're like, Like it's my LinkedIn profile. My real name is Indigo Montoya or, it'd been better if it was, I should have said, my real name is Kaiser Sosei. Like it'd be awesome if it just turns out the guy who like, if you ever go and check out Fun2, the like a main dev for Fun2, like he's got YouTube videos and they're like plastered all over the front of Fun2's website. It'd be great to find out like he's just a front man for you. Like he runs that YouTube channel and talks about Fun2. Just so you don't get like your cover doesn't get blown. Like you're the actual head dev. I'll revisit something I said earlier. Not a developer. Hey, I can't even, I can't even bash script my way out of the box. Just ask anybody who's seen any of my scripts. Hey, same here. A lot of my scripts are slightly stolen. Oh, we won't talk about that. My original scripts have been thoroughly debunked as horrible by TFL by the way. He's TFL takes one look at Matt's scripts. Oh, yeah. That's Matt's scripting right there. Look at all those saids right there. Said one said right after another. He just piped all those pipes, man. Look, you land pipe. Oh my God, man. That's got to be a design for a t-shirt we whip up eventually. Got to be. Just like it's got to be like a terminal, terminal shirt that's like laying pipe. Hey, okay. You're on camera. I looked right there. Hey, extra dog. Oh, is it a she? Yeah, this is Missy. I don't see what you're doing in here. You ain't supposed to be here. Yes, everybody's getting a dog stream. This is awesome. Well, somebody can actually complain on my videos the other day that I didn't show the dog. I was supposed to show the dog. All right. Well, here's the dog. Hi dog. What are you doing here? All right. I have no clue you're talking about me before we had the canine interruption. Your thingy of the week is up next. My thingy of the week. All right, so I cheated this week. Mine is the flat pack of OBS. It's just, it's so good, man. It is so good. And it's not even as if it's the flat pack that makes it good. It's just that it's updated. Like, please arch, update your OBS. Like, what are you doing, man? Also, maybe it's not even the way they update it. Maybe it's just that it's compiled differently and they can take out all the features. Like, why are you taking out the features? Maybe. Like, whatever the case is, the fact that they've gone through and made it so that the premier feature, like the premier feature of the most recent version is just not there is not great. Like, it makes- Hold on a minute. It's arched. They have bigger things to worry about. There are C tool chains falling behind. All right. Can't be focusing on the OBS packages. Yeah. I don't know. It's just, it's silly. Anyways, that's my thinking of the week. I highly recommend everybody switch over to this. It's the reason why I decided to talk about it in the news and in the thinking of the week, because it's just, it's so good. Like, I have my YouTube chat. It's like, right there. It's so good. Like, there's no extra windows. It's like, it's amazing. Like, this is what technology promised me 20 years ago. Like, YouTube chat embedded in OBS. All right. Isn't it awesome? Dude, like the new features in OBS, I love them. It makes it so much more like Streamlabs where you just don't have to go deal with a shit company anyway. It's awesome. Yeah, it's really good. And because of this new thing, it reminded me that there's a way to unlock the UI so you can actually move things around. I forgot that that was a feature. Because out of the box, the chat window comes up as its own window. Like, and I was sitting there trying to dock the damn thing. You can't dock it by default. Like, what's that was going on? This is obviously broken. Thank you, Bernie Robertson, for misleading me, for taking me to a horrible application. But then I remembered that if you go to docs and then I'll lock all and I'll click that, you can move things around. Like, it's so good. It's like creating your own version of the application. So I move things around. So now it's like, it's awesome. It's even more awesome than before. So that is my thing of the week. So that is it, guys, for this podcast. It is under 50 minutes long. And I can't tell you the last time we had a podcast that went under 50 minutes in time. No, we've had a couple of 58 minutes in the last few weeks. But getting under 50 minutes, I feel like we're gipping people. Like, I legitimately feel guilty about the fact that we only gave them 46 minutes worth of talk. But what are you gonna do? So that is it for this week. Before we go, I should take a moment to thank my current patrons. Today, Devon, Patrick Lomarcus, Megalyn, Zach Samp, Toul, Steve A. Seberg, Elinix, Garrick, Mitchell, Arsner, Carmine, Jameshawn, Odin, Martin, Andy, Merrick, Kamp, Drashley, J-Dog, Peter, A, Crucible, Dark, Bennett, Six, Vlad A, and Primus. I did really good there until, you know, at the end. But thanks, everybody. Thanks, everybody who has been watching us. We record this live every Thursday. Around three o'clock PM each time, we were significantly late this week because that was my fault. I was too busy watching Pawn Stars on YouTube. I can't, by the way, just to give you guys a little extra content here, I can't stand Pawn Stars. Like, and I still watch it. Like that lead guy, the ball dude, I can't stand him. I like, I have seriously hatred for that man. Like, I can't stand him, but I watch the show anyways. Also, just like, it's on the History Channel, but it's about the only thing about history that they actually have on their channel more, because can somebody explain to me what the hell Ice Road Truckers has to do with history? I'm just, I mean, please. Dude, it's the History Channel. There's, if there's not aliens blowing up the Eiffel Tower, it's not actual history. Okay. They used to do, but they used to actually do history on the History Channel. Like, I don't know if anybody actually knows this, but my, I have a bachelor's degree in history. So I like, the History Channel was like my thing back in the day, but they don't really do history on the History Channel anymore. It's just like, they don't do music on MTV anymore. Like, they used to do, they're like, there used to be music on the music channel. Not anymore. Now they have the real world, season 45, you know. I'm pretty sure the real world is actually still going, and the thing is that thing was going when I was in college, which is now at least 12 years ago. It's been going for a while. All right, anyway, so that is it for this time. Coming up next week, I don't actually know. We're gonna be talking about, should you use a firewall? So that should be a very technical thing, right? Should you use a firewall? Anyways, see you guys next week. Born.