 Oh, now we can go live. I think why must you do this to me? Hopefully everything is working just fine because new setup and all that shit. Yeah, I mean, it's totally weird that YouTube or OBS would be giving you problems. I mean, that's never happened to us in the past. Especially when since the last time we did a podcast, I've done an interview with a distro maintainer. So I had to redo all the transforms again and had to mess around with the audio and stuff. So we'll have to see if everything's working. So if anybody's actually watching this, which I don't think anybody actually is. I mean, I'm pretty sure everybody just gave up on the podcast because we took two weeks off and just assumed we were dead or something. I don't know. Yeah. I mean, it's it's definitely the same thing on my channel. I'm pretty sure most people just assume my entire channel is dead because it's been like shit, like three weeks since I posted on my channel. So yeah, I did not share this in the discord. I should do that. I do like how the first the first first message that we have in chat is dad as such to you. That's great. Okay, we'll do it in your in yours as well. Oh, yes. Yes. Okay. Why is why is my why am I gone in the live stream? What? I disappeared. Why did you disappear? I met Matt. Don't banish me. Not like this. Not like this. No. Why did it do that? There it is. Okay. Must be because I changed the workspace. Okay. That's weird. All right. Anyways, can we if you're watching this and you're in the chat, can you give us some yeas or nays on the audio to see if tell the tell if it's okay? Things have changed. Things have changed. So I'm going to make sure that the levels and everything are okay. I haven't done a stream since I got this microphone. So yes, and this is the first time that I am doing, you know, anything professional recording wise with the steam deck. So thank you or miss appreciate that. And I guess I guess this podcast does count because everyone was asking for me to do a live stream from the deck. So I don't know if this counts, but I guess it does. I'm live streaming. So it does not count. Okay. Okay. Well, I can definitely do a live stream from it. And that'd be impressive. I'm going to have to. Oh, I mean, it can definitely do it. I mean, it probably can't live stream while I'm playing like Daisy or something, but it can definitely do it. I wonder if any of our regulars will show up today. I have a, I have a feeling we're going to need some mods. Yeah. You just become like a Wild West now. There's going to be a lot of, a lot of sex spots coming around now. Like of all the live streams that you could come on with a sex box. You chose a Linux cat, a Linux. Exactly. Exactly. Like you haven't found a bigger bunch of nerds. Hey, yeah. Well, I mean, there's got to, it's just, it's one of those things where there, there has to be better live streams. Like I, I, I, I can't really see like us talking about Katie or like terminals, like kitty and X, your XVT and shit. And then someone being like, you know what? I'm already kind of turned on. So this porn advertisement in chat like, perfect. Like I don't, I can't really see that. Oh, oh, GNOME. Oh, GNOME. That's horrible. Well, I mean, we all know you're slowly starting to crack, slowly starting to show that love. Or GNOME. I'm about as close to using GNOME as we are to fixing that green flashing you have on your video. That's bull crap, man. We both, we both know you have this deep, passionate love affair with GNOME that you're trying to keep secret from everybody. Like, and look, man, there is no shame in it. Just come out. It's okay. It's all right. You're in your love of GNOME with the world. That's not true. That's fake news, man. BS. Like mark my words, boys. Like it may be a week from now. It may be a month from now. It may be a year from now. It may be 10 years from now. Well, one of these days, Matt is finally going to come out and pronounce his passionate love for GNOME. Eventually, it'll happen. I will say this. And it will be absolutely true for the rest of my life. I will never daily drive GNOME on this computer. I can't say that about my mother because the one that behind me is actually has GNOME on it. See, like I, I can completely believe that because I mean, I, I really wanted to do something dirty there where I was just going to start talking about like us having off camera conversations that we never had, but I don't think I'll do that. That seems a little cool, but, but I could totally see you getting a new computer and then being like, well, see, like it doesn't count. Cause that was the old computer. Exactly. That was the old computer. Oh, no, I'm not going to let GNOME all of a sudden. Well, again, it's not all of a sudden. You just like, I'm trying to keep it on the DL. I'm going to trip into it. Okay. No, I'm just saying that you're hiding your passionate love for GNOME. I'm saying it's already there. You're just not sharing it with everyone, which you can or it's totally fine. You're running an X, running XFC with a 4k monitor, but to that is a fun time. Probably high refresh rate as well. Right? That's really not great. Could be worse. Could be, I don't know. Actually, I don't know how it would be. How could get worse? Oh, LXQ maybe? No. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, most likely it's probably just going to be the same. Thank you for being honest. Yeah. Um, all right. I think that we're going to get started even though this is probably going to be our least number of views we've ever had on a podcast because nobody's watching this. Where are you all at people? Apparently we took a, we took a couple weeks off and nobody decided that we were going to come. That's okay. All right. I think that's probably what it is. That said, we'll just talk amongst ourselves and the 12 people watching us. Exactly. You know, it'll just be a private show though. All right. Yeah. Well, it's okay. We won't have, it'd be funny to end up with more sex pox than actual people in the chat. That would be awesome. Okay. I'm going to, you have audacity up and running? Yes, sir. I'll get you all prepared. Wait, but I do not have my phone mute through you. I don't have my phone near me. So I can't actually tell you whether it's going to do it. No. It's across the room on the charger. So it should be fine. Hopefully. Party stuff. He says he's installing Debian right now. Oh. Party's always re-installing something. Glad you found the, glad you found the ISO. So, hi, I'm Sexbox. After those hours of searching. I know a lot of people who love GNOME and man. Um, and that's okay. It's just not for me. Despite Tyler's firm-held belief that I'm having babies with GNOME, which I mean, I'm, I'm sure you and your side hoe are not really trying for babies, but, you know, just there's a good love affair going on there that you're just not talking about. And you can deny it as much as you want. And it's okay. Most people in affairs would heavily deny it's totally okay. But at the same time, I know it exists. I just want you to know that I know. Like I found GNOME on that dating site. That's for men who want to cheat with their wives. What the hell is it called? Is it called, um, Madison something? Something like that. Madison Avenue. Maybe you're something like that. I don't know. Whatever it is. I just, like, for a second there, I was just imagining you on Tinder swiping through like girls and then you see like, you just see like a picture of GNOME, like, you know, like their logo. You're like, wow, that right there is a sexy foot. Ashley Madison, that was the name. Yeah. Or I don't know how you know how you knew that though. I'm a little suspicious. Well, I mean, like, I think they're the one that was like the first like major big like hack and leak is like their entire database of users got leaked. And then like, you could go and like go to a whole bunch of different websites and search for people that were subscribed or like on the website. And like, I just remember hearing about that in the news and be like, dude, that has to suck. Yeah, I can say this with a hundred percent truth. I've never signed up for a dating site. And mostly because I'm pretty sure that a woman would see that and say, yep, that right there. That's a serial killer. You just like, yeah, not, not clicking on that one. Going to end up in the woods with that one. Oh, God. That is terrible. Oh my God, man. Think about it. I'm a privacy nerd. I like Linux and you know, just happened to randomly like GNOME. Obviously. Thinking about it. Probably like both of our profiles would make someone think that like, like based off of the things that we're interested in, I would assume that most, not just like women, but like most people would who are not not into computers and stuff would assume that we're also like probably the type that's like super deep into conspiracy theories and just like crazy shit. Obviously living in mama's basement hasn't bathed in four to six, you know, weeks. Well, I mean, I'm not going to lie. It is funny because I have, I've gotten the comments for me and I think, I think you've also gotten the comments too where people accuse like you or me of living in our mom's basement. They're like, um, first of all, my parents do not have a basement, so it would be impossible to live there. Second of all, um, I would, I mean, people literally, I mean, I'm sure there are like finished basements to have like bedrooms in it, but not around here. Like the grounds around here would just be instantaneously flooded. It's just too wet. Even where I live, like no one, no one really puts rooms in their bag. Well, I had one friend who had an apartment in their, in their basement, but like their basement was like half underground. Like, so like there's a patio and stuff out back. So it wasn't really a basement. I mean, I know I don't look like it, but I like to go outside and touch grass every once in a while and look at the clouds, you know, I may not be the ultra athlete that I wanted to be just so I could buy the Apple Apple watch ultra, but you know, I also don't get why people use the like you live with your family as an insult. Like, I guess it's an insult like it to somebody who like doesn't like their family. Well, I think I think the whole idea is like, well, you obviously can't support yourself or something like that. Like, oh, not obviously true. I make plenty of money. I mean, yeah, that's true. Yeah. I guess I never really thought about it like that. Like I because I mean, I never really took it as like they were implying like you're like, you know, a hardcore wow player, like you never leave the house. Like all you do is play video games. So you can't like support yourself. I always I always thought it was just like people who like just really didn't like their family. Well, I mean, the thing now is that a lot of people were in their thirties or living with their parents now because of, you know, the fucking economy and shit. I mean, that sounds horrible, but yeah, it is kind of the way a lot of people go. Yeah. Well, I mean, right now rent and gas are, I don't know, kind of expensive though. Okay. All right. Let's go ahead and get started here. I'm sure we're ready to go. So I have, I think I have everything ready to start recording. So make sure make sure my colors not sticking up like weirdo. Before we do get started, I do want to say you probably want to meet up and talk more with a boring beer talk in chat because you guys probably like, you know, have a lot in common. He, he too is privacy oriented. He likes canome and he also doesn't live in a basement. So you should hit him up. We could be pals. Okay. Yeah. I'm ready to start recording when you are okay. I'm going to hit recording in audacity. I'm going to hit recording in OBS. I'm going to tap on my mic to make sure. Sounds good. That it's the right thing. Okay. And you can do the claps when I re like. All right. Three, two, one. Sounded pretty close on my end, but normally when it sounds close on my end, it's completely fucked on your it wasn't bad. It was definitely was not a worst, but I it's impossible to judge because the latency on discord is just so bad sometimes like you just you have no clue. Okay. I guess you'll, you'll have to find out and post my first friend and it will be Matt. I don't know whether or not that was a compliment or not just the way you said it boring beer talk. I get my first friend had to be Matt and this guy seek seriously. Like I kind of found a different first friend and Jesus, you don't have to sound so excited about that. Like, yeah. I mean, that's a good friend to have especially since when I get home, I'll have a new microphone to try out. That one's going to be fun. It should be a good time. You should be very proud of you for actually pocking the damn thing up and it took a lot of effort man. Don't don't worry. I like I felt so bad because I mean, I told if no one knows this, I sent a laptop to low spec Linux laptop. His name's Jeff, but I sent a laptop to him and when I when I was like I was watching him, he had a really like not super crap, but it's it's a crappy like it was a pentium laptop. He had a he needed a better computer. And so I had an extra laptop. I told him I was going to send it to him and then for like three or four weeks went by before I actually sent the box out. It just sat by my front door and I can't forgetting about it. I felt so bad. You're that package for you sent here sat here next to me and the barrier between me and shipping it was actually putting tape on it. So yeah, because all right. Let's round about this for a second. The those rolls of shipping tape you just know those things you're going to spend like an hour trying to find the end of it right like that's the way it is like and you and when you do find the end of it you grab and you finally get a piece of it and then it rips in half, but not the right way. Yeah, like that should be against the rules. That's horrible. It's absolutely bad. Excuse me. All right. You're excused brother. So we're going to go ahead and get started here. All right. We've done the claps. I got the show notes up. I got the news articles all open in a proper browser. All right. Hey everybody. Welcome back to the next cast. I'm your host Matt and I'm Tyler. Indeed he is. So we have taken a couple of weeks off. If you tuned in last week, you would have heard a interview between me and dark zero who is the developer of zero Linux. So if you haven't listened to that, go back and check that that went out as a bonus episode. So that was a nice hour of talking about Linux and arch and stuff like that. That was very fun. So but we're back talking about Linux like Linux see things and we plan to go from here until you know Christmas or something. We're going to put a good string of episodes right in a row. That's the plan. Anyway, so yeah. So this is the next cast talk about Linux see things. I'm pretty sure I already said that and you guys know this when I when we take two weeks off or more than a week off. I forget how to talk and I forget how to do the podcast and forget about all the things that I'm supposed to know how to say and all of a sudden words become really horrible and Tyler has the green flashing back again and it only happens when I don't look at him. So he has really weird. I don't know that you think that they'd fix that like the Brie was a very popular webcam but you think that they had fixed that. So but no, I didn't fix that anyway. So if you're watching the live video and you're seeing the green flashes that's Tyler's fault. It was always. Yeah. So just ignore it as well as you can. So let's go ahead and move on into the first section of the show and this is where we discuss the things that we've done since the last time we saw each other. So Tyler, what have you been doing in the world of false anything good? Well, yes. So technically speaking my steam deck is a birthday present. So I've obviously been playing with it and I'm away from my house dog sitting. So it's been great to have with me. But I've mainly just been I was working on a game to make a survival game like an open source survival game for Linux, but I've stopped because I've been playing Daisy on the steam deck and it's awesome. It's just great. It works fantastic and I've also been messing around. I installed Linux Mint on the steam deck and tried that out. It works great. I even it didn't I didn't really need to but I did update the kernel to the newer five dot like 19 something. Licorix kernel, which is like the Zen kernel, but for Ubuntu and Debian. And it works great. The only problem is is the audio drivers are not in the kernel for the device and they won't be there until five dot 20. I think so. Yeah, audio doesn't work on it, but I've I've tried out like Linux Mint on it works fantastic. I'm still really liking Mint and yeah, also the BIOS on the steam deck is really nice. Like it's really nice, but yeah, that's what I've been up to about you. Well, I've been doing many things. So I started using Plex again. So I was planning on using Jellyfin to because I for the last year I've been a subscriber to Deezer and I decided I didn't want to pay for Deezer anymore. So I decided just to start using my own music, which I have tons of music and the only issue and the only reason I ever use this streaming service anyways was because all my playlists are on streaming services and they're easy to transfer back and forth. But they're really hard to get onto your computer just for your own music unless you create them by hand, which I just ended up doing. But anyways, I tried to use Jellyfin. I could not get it to work on Fedora. I don't know what was going on there. I couldn't get the services start running. So I ended up using Plex because I'm familiar with Plex. It's okay. But man, do they clutter up the interface with a whole bunch of shit. I mean, like I don't care about all of these third rate straight to VHS movies. Like seriously, if I see one more movie with like the rock in it, I'm just going to pull out my hair. Like that that man is in every single movie. Did you know that like you could see a movie about like my little pony or something and look, there's the rock. You know, he's definitely riding one of the ponies. I'm just saying. Anyway, so I guess Plex set up and that's I've been messing around with that for now a couple of weeks, I suppose. And getting my because it turns out that I haven't used my music collection in probably 10 years really on in any amount of time because I've been just been using streaming services. So my music collection is pretty out of date. A lot of the new stuff that I like just isn't there. So I've been using my thingy of the week to, you know, creatively a creatively acquire music. I should say, you know, that's how I've been filling out my music catalog, which is probably not the best way to do it, but I've been doing it that way anyways. So yeah, that's what I've been doing. I also got a brand new microphone. So I decided that I was going to start using my standing desk more and I'm going to try to do some videos and some podcasts from there. So what I decided to do is move my Hile PR 40 from here and my Scarlet Focusrite solo, whatever it's Focusrite Scarlet solo, whatever it's called over there as well. So I needed something for here. So I ended up with sure SM7B and it's fine. It's definitely picks up more noise than I'm kind of used to, but I'm still kind of dialing it in. So not quite there yet. I was about to say like, I mean, that's like kind of the best microphone that you could get. Yeah, I'm still, I'm still working on the audio interface. I went with something that I'm really, really happy with. It's called the Universal Audio Volt 297279 something like that and it is amazing. It is so good. It has a built-in compressor in it and it means that you can pretty much turn your compressor off or not do any of the compression in like OBS or whatever. It just does it automatically and it is so good. Very pricey. I shouldn't have spent as much money as I did on it, but at the end of the day, I'm pretty happy with it. So yeah, that's what I did with there. And then related to that, I've been working on getting my standing desk into a position where I can, you know, actually use it more often. The biggest stumbling block I'm coming up with right now is I can't get the focus right solo to work because it won't draw power from any of the USB ports on that old S computer back there. So I need to find a USB 3 like card or something to put in that computer to actually get the power to it, which is stupid. I'm also having problems with that monitor because I can't create videos on that monitor because that monitor back there is 23 years old and and it does and as it's 23 years old, it is not 1080p. So doing videos on there is pretty much a no golly. I mean, it works fine because it's just a little monitor, but it does not is not going to do well for YouTube videos, at least as it is right now. So I need to I'm thinking about getting another monitor for having decided whether I'm just going to get a bigger monitor for this desk and then take one of these 27s over there or if I'm going to leave the 27s here and get another 27 for there. I haven't really decided yet. But yeah, that's the stuff that I've been doing. Nothing other than the Plex thing really Linux related, but I will say this when I first got an audio interface, I was so like completely flummoxed at how to get the audio interface to work with Linux. Like I had no clue how to do it. Like I took it took two weeks to figure out how to get us an audio interface to work. This one was plug and play didn't have any problems. Now I don't know whether or not that's just because I now have knowledge of how to set defaults and stuff in Linux, which I didn't then or if this one's just works better with Linux. But this one here it even remembers that it's supposed to be hooked up. So you know in pipe wire oftentimes when you reboot your computer, it changes to a different input. Yeah, this one just remembers that this is the default. It's been very nice. Yeah, so I'm very I'm very happy with that. That was definitely a good investment. So I was happy about that. Okay, so moving on into the contact information. If you want to get contact with us, you can do so in any number of ways. So there are contact links at the linuxcast.org slash contact. Those are that's where most of the stuff that you can find a contact is with us, but you can also email us at email at the linuxcast.org. You can follow us on Facebook, YouTube, all that stuff. Those links be in the video description or at the linuxcast.org slash contact speaking of linuxcast.org that is the website where you'll find all of our back episodes along with several blog posts that I post pretty much every week. If you want to get those early, you can support me on Patreon, which is at patreon.com slash linuxcast. Tyler is on YouTube at youtube.com slash Zanio G. I mean, theoretically he's on YouTube at youtube.com slash Zanio G. I haven't actually seen him. He's like he's become like a big footer or yeti or something like that. He just pops up every once in a while with community posts saying, oh yeah, I'm doing this. Eventually I'll make a video again. I believe that when I see it because he's obviously just too good for YouTube now. I'm just saying he's too busy with his steam deck and the rest of us just are going to have to I mean, every once a week, he'll pop out of his game induced fog and join us for a podcast and then he'll just burrow right back into whatever game he's playing. I need it to be long enough that you guys are like wanting me back. You know, you're making the heart grow fonder. I don't exactly. Yeah. Yeah. I know YouTube doesn't work that way. I don't think that the algorithm is going to be very forgiving that you've decided to become a steam deck addict. I'm just saying, yeah, you need help man. You need help is what I'm saying. Oh, I do. Oh, I do a hundred percent. Anyways, that's the contact information. Do contact us via the email or whatever because we're very lonely people because we're all living in our mom's basements and we haven't showered in in ages and we're Linux nerves and we like, you know, so definitely the type of, you know, person you want to contact via email because that's I'm sure that's a very stable person. You're email right there. Okay. We were I don't know whether or not that conversation happened before or after we started recording or before we have after the collapse or whatever, but we were talking about the stereotypes of Linux nerds. So that's the reason why that's the reason why that was funny because everyone just assumes that if you like Linux, you'll live in the basement. Yep. So yeah. Anyways, moving on the news each and every week, Tyler and I scour the internet for the most latest breaking news. I'm pretty sure the link that I chose is now four weeks old. I'm just pretty sure that that's true. So in this case, not so breaking news. So Tyler, what is your news link of the week? Mine is that there's some improvements. Coming to the Linux kernel in six dot one. It's going to be a whole bunch of improvements for the new rDNA three chips, but also for the 6000 series. It's already out, which I have a card and they're adding like a kind of a, I think it's to do with like resetting. So you'll be able to like reset now with a new like mode and this one will. The this mode reset is intended for multi container use cases and others where needing a quick GPU reset and without causing the memory, the video memory to be lost. So you'll be able to like reset the GPU without losing any of the memory in data or like in the RAM, which is pretty cool. But you know, I keep thinking about this. The Linux kernel, definitely it has come a long way in the last few years when it comes to hardware support. It just feels like that it used to be when there was a new GPU or something like that, it would take two or three kernel releases for the kernel to even even think about supporting and then that support like remember when you first got your card, your AMD card, the support wasn't very good for that thing, but it got better really fast. Now, but now lately it seems like that kind of stuff is pretty much instantaneous. I maybe that's just the perception issue on my part, but they seem to be doing a lot better job when it comes to hardware support. I think they are. That's nice. All right. So my news is also having to do with Linux 6.1. Can we just pause for a minute and think how weird it is that they're on version 6.1 already? I know that basically choose the version numbers randomly, but it just feels weird. Anyway, so version 6.1.1 will make it easier to help spot faulty CPUs. So when things go wrong, the kernel will at least make it easier for you to spot problems. So supposedly report the likely second core when a segmentation fault occurs, which can help the user spot any trends or if they're routinely failing or if it's causing problems more often than just one time, right? So that is again another thing that has to do with a lot of these new CPUs that have more technology on them for error reporting than they used to have. So a lot of that stuff was spawned by those you remember like Spectre and Countdown or wherever they were, the flaws inside the actual hardware that they had to fix. It was a couple of years ago. A lot of this newer hardware, the newer CPUs and stuff like that have more technology on them to actually spot faults and stuff, which is way beyond me. Like I have no clue what any of that stuff even means. I said it, but I don't know what the words mean. So it's definitely interesting. I also think that the more of this stuff that comes to Linux, the better it is for things like the Steam Deck and stuff like that, which will allow to, I mean, because eventually a lot of stuff is going to filter into ARM as well. So that's going to be very nice. So we're going to move on to the main topic because I think I believe somebody's pushing for the main topic already. Like you must be new. We don't get to the main topic until we're at least an hour in and we've only been going for 20 minutes. I mean, you know, the fact, the fact that we're 20 minutes in and prepared to do the main topic is mind blowing. It's normally at least 30 minutes in. Oh, yeah. And 30 minutes. I mean, like, dude, when we get it, when we get to the main topic in 30 minutes, we're both impressed. We're like, oh, we're on top of it today. It has never happened in 19 minutes before. Ever. Yeah. And really it's happening in less than 19 minutes because we bullshitted after the clap for at least two. So this is like 17 minutes. It's really weird. I need to switch back to the main scene so you can actually see us. I'm new here. I don't remember anything. It's okay. Usually it's the other the other guy that controls the, you know, because we have a producer now. Yeah. Anyway, so let's go ahead and move on to the main topic that the news was just not interesting. I mean, it's it was good news, but it's nerdy news. Not many people are interested. All right. I mean, everyone's more interested in that. I think that the reason why we're moving on so fast is because this is Tyler's topic and he is so I wouldn't say obsessed. No, I'm going to say obsessed with the steam deck from valve that he just can't hold himself back. He's like the little kid that knows just knows he's going to get a toy and it's the day before but is it can we go yet? Can we go yet? Can we go get the toy now and six? I mean, he's just very impatient when it comes to this stuff. So Tyler, what is it that you like about the damn steam deck? Well, you're you're pretty right with what you're saying there because like it is like when you get really excited to go get a call like you know, when you're a kid, you get really excited to go get a game or a console or something. You're super excited. You go and get it. You go home and you play it and then the next day when you go back to play it, all of that excitement that you had the first day is gone and like, you know, you're you still like it, but you're not nearly as excited as you were like going to get it. It's like that, but if the initial excitement never wore off like the steam deck is just so obscenely good. It it it's so great as a computer as a console as a gaming device. It's just it's awesome. I mean, I know someone asked about could we do a video or talk about Genome or you know, something else on the deck for anyone who doesn't know this. If you want to change out your desktop environment on the deck. Pretty easy to do. It's not very difficult. You do you probably will have to turn on or disable the read only mode, but that's a simple command. And I mean, really in all honesty, like changing out the desktop environment super easy. You can install other Linux distros on it really easily. It's not difficult at all. The only is I mean, again, it's a normal computer. So you just you hold down the power or the volume up button, press the power button and just keep holding the volume button and then you pop into the bios and you can just go to the boot manager and boot into something else. And it's it's exactly like a normal computer. The only difference is the audio drivers for the steam deck or not in the kernel yet. So you can't you can't really install other distros and have the audio work properly on the deck. But in every other aspect, it's completely working and again in 5.26.0, like whatever it is, the next major point release for the kernel, the audio drivers should be baked into the kernel. So you shouldn't have any problems. But I mean, overall, the deck is an insanely good device. I mean, it is. Wow. Okay. I'm glad we I asked you that question, even though it's not the question we're supposed to be answering because I wanted to get you to get that out of your system. Thank you. Just for a moment. So but I have two questions for you. What are you running? What distro? Are you running the official Steam OS on it right now as you record this? Or are you still on it? A Steam OS. Okay. Mint again, the audio does not I would have to be using this microphone and everything to even have audio working on the device. And it's kind of nice to be able to like be on a Steam call with friends playing Daisy or something like that and walk around and be able to talk with them and like lay in bed and everything. So right, I'm not going to install something else right now. Okay. Yeah, that makes sense. I mean, it's not as if you haven't installed a random distribution on your computer right before the podcast before or anything like that. All right, two things. So first of all, Dark Zero left a super chat way back and when he asked us what stereotype are you? I'm definitely the GNOME lover of the group. Just I mean, that's definitely the stereotype that I apparently fit. Tyler is the stoned hippie gamer. Yep. Yeah, 100% Tyler is the guy who looks stoned even when he's not stoned. I think about half the comments we usually get on these days like man, Tyler's was really hitting it today. So yeah, those are the stereotypes that we just happened. Also the stereotype apparently I get is arch user because there's that meme of the guy in the art shirt that has the gigantic gut that's just hanging out of his belly. First of all, I am a big guy. Okay. I have a belly, but I also have shirts that cover it. So not that guy. So you're much more of an Arco guy anyway. No, man. I'm fedora all the way. Well, now, but like back when you were getting these comments, even then, like, yes, sure, you were. I mean, you liked arch, obviously, but you were much more of an Arco fanboy much like much too lazy to ever install has to have the Calamari installer. Yeah. All right. So those are the two things that I wanted to cover before we move into the actual topic. So has the steam deck been successful? But first before jumping in that, let me talk a little bit about how this device drives me nuts. So you talked about how much you love it and I haven't tried it. I'm sure it's a fantastic device and I want one. I real I reordered it. I resubmitted my preorder for it and I happily used the five dollars that was already in my account to do so. I didn't even have to pay a new five dollars. It was the same five dollars before and I've also transferred the money to the appropriate account. So it's there when that steam deck is here. So that thing I'm definitely going to get. However, I can't stand the name. I cannot stand the name. That's everyone's argument and I have to be honest. You're right. It's a dumb name. Like it is a dumb name. I don't understand in this day and age like where everyone has every company has 25 million lawyers on retainer how Elgato hasn't said you know what? That's steam deck in a stream deck. Those names are kind of you know close together. There's only like I don't know one letter between them. Maybe we should do something about that. I don't know. You think I don't understand. I don't understand how the executives at valve decided to sit down in a room. They've created this device and it's time to name it and they're like what should we name it? Oh yeah. How about stream deck but without the R it's like that was that's not a good idea because when I created the stream for today I I wrote stream deck twice and this thing has been out now for a year and I still can't remember to call it a steam deck half the time. It's just really really bad. Yeah. Well I'm going to say sorry your beard is not long enough for us. I think when it comes down to the steam deck like I think really really in all honesty it's just it's a bad decision on on valves part because I mean it wouldn't be nearly that much of talking point if the stream deck wasn't such a massive popular device already like I mean almost every person that does streaming uses one and then the people who don't stream or do anything but just watch YouTube like even the people who watch clips on YouTube of streamers see their stream deck or hear people talking about their stream deck. So like you don't even have to be a streamer to be familiar with that product. And so like it's just a dumb decision on their part because everyone's so familiar with the stream deck. Like but I mean besides name wise like I don't think there's any there's no real problems with the hardware like I mean I've heard things about loud fan noise and stuff like that but that's going to be I mean they've ironed that shit out. So I think like I said I haven't tried the device and I won't until probably quarter four. So I can't say how good it is personally. However the things that I've read I haven't seen a single person say that this thing is really bad like that. Remember when it was announced you and I talked about this on the podcast like we said that this thing had the potential to be horrible for Linux gaming because if it came out and there were no games or if the software was really bad or the hardware was really bad whatever the case may be if it had any complaints at all this thing was going to seriously put a knock in any game developer wanting to develop for Linux that was our bit. I mean we had a huge I mean I think I did two videos about that just by myself and then we talked about it on multiple podcasts about how this thing had a potential to be really really bad for Linux and it has blown that worry completely away like yes I haven't like the most die hard Windows person you can talk to will be perfectly happy using the Steam Deck using Linux because first of all it has something like I think they just went over like 2000 maybe 5000 games that are verified or something like that some insane number there's never been a console in the history of consoles that has that many games for the work there just hasn't ever and that's just I mean just you just think about that that's mind blowing I mean five years ago when I first started using Linux gaming was meh at best right it was not a good experience for the most part Proton was just kind of getting his legs under there and you know half the stuff didn't work and wine was still a pain in the ass to use and Lutrus didn't really exist or nobody ever used it you know so I was those five years ago in five years they've completely changed the game with with with Proton and the number of games that are available not only for the Steam Deck for all of Linux and I you you have to think that the only reason valve has done what they've done to enable Linux gaming is because they knew they were going to create this thing like they knew that this is what they wanted to create eventually and they knew in order for it to be a success they had to have games ready for it and they've done it it's not often like Tyler I mean it's not often when a company says we're going to create a brand new product that has basically been never been seen before like yes we've had held handheld game consoles for a long time but they all been proprietary they've all been locked down into very video game centric use cases so things like the the DS and the Game Boy and the the the switch and the PS Vita and stuff like that all that stuff like if you wanted to play game with on the PS Vita and then she knew how to like jailbreak the damn thing you were going to pay $60 for a game and you were going to buy it from Sony like you're going to buy it from the store or you're going to buy a cartridge when it was the PSP or whatever right now so that they create decide they're going to create a the steam deck thing and it completely changed the way people thought about game consoles but more because it's not really a game console it's a computer right and that has changed it feels like it has changed a lot of people's perspective on Linux even if all they ever do is stick around in the big game mode on the steam deck well it's changed it's changed people's opinion on on Linux as a like viable I guess like commercial product like cuz like valve valve like when it comes to the steam deck the steam deck really could have crush Linux's potential in like the commercial space and especially gaming space cuz if it wasn't good and it's just stuff didn't work right and it was unreliable it would have been really really bad I mean especially in the people who aren't interested in Linux in general but are interested in gaming like their interest in Linux would just completely dissipate or even like willingness to be interested in Linux but Valve's done an exceptional job like the hardware is in it's it's incredible how amazing the hardware performance wise it's mind blowing the RAM is faster than you're going to get in any regular desktop computer like if you go DDR4 route you'd have to you'd have to buy the most expensive egregious RAM sticks to even get close to the speed that you're going to get in the steam deck it overall the hardware is fantastic and Linux has never been better than on the steam deck it is superb I mean I'm using the like for those of you watching who don't know I am doing this from the steam deck that's why my camera is glitching the Brio on Linux for some reason just goes green screen from some like random times it's awesome it's a great feature but yeah like KDE on here is awesome it's super reliable like the the the arch system that Valve is using is really great it's they've really fine tuned it for the device and they've made it reliable and I think that's like the most important part is it is reliable someone actually commented and talked about it like they had a friend that received the deck with joystick drift and that's pretty much the only complaint that I've heard from anybody is that the joysticks might have drift or get drift after a you know a certain amount of time or whenever you know but even that downside I think highlights a good good thing about the deck if you have those problems or if you're worried about those problems you can order like the the deck isn't even using the nicest types of joysticks that you can buy and so you could just spend like 60 or 80 bucks on some really nice joysticks for it and slap those in and again like taking apart the deck is not hard like there's plenty of tutorials and guides online to do it it's just it's overall it's a it's not just a good handheld device it's a fucking fantastic computer like it's great it's really good on power the screen is I mean I've heard people complain about it but the screen is fantastic it works reliably there's plenty of input options for it I mean like Ben in the chat has been like extremely hostile towards the state steam deck he's like I I will honestly say I hate the steam deck I have zero interest in it I get some I get people not liking or like not really being interested in the deck because you don't really play games that much like I get that but I mean even at the end of the day like if you're considering getting a laptop like just to have a computer to take around with you I mean I would say the steam decks better like because this like let's like let's just say you're going to get a pretty power like a pretty decent powerful laptop you're probably looking at spending around 800 bucks on a good decent performing laptop for 800 bucks you could get the steam deck a nice keyboard and a portable like 15 inch one of those like foldable like laptop screens and you have essentially the same thing as a laptop not only will it have more horsepower than probably the laptop you're going to buy but also you can pick out the type of keyboard and have a nice mechanical keyboard that's like portable to go in your backpack but it's really just it's there's so much bang for buck in the steam deck it's hard to argue against it it's it's really good. I think I would have a problem pointing people towards buying this as just a computer not that is not a good computer but there are definite drawbacks to having this instead of an actual computer I I think so things like having a bigger screen that you can carry with you I mean that is a very small screen to use it as a computer on the go on most people aren't going to want to carry and like an extra monitor with them just so they can have something bigger than a seven inch screen so if you want a computer I'd say buy a computer but well I mean the as somebody who is using this to replace a laptop I really don't think it's it's it's really not that different like I mean if you don't take this as don't take this as an as an offensive statement Tyler but you're a weirdo so you're not wrong and we your nerd you're a lovable you're a lovable nerd but I don't I don't think most people would want would be happy with a seven inch screen to do work on or anything that's not what I'm saying but what like what I'm saying is carrying around an extra portable monitor with you like if you if you do that and bring it around with you like the case that you get with a steam deck I can get up and go grab it but I mean it's pretty small like this deck is not that big and so like if you were like if we're comparing this to a gaming laptop like with the gaming laptop you're going to have that big ass like charging break that you got to carry around with you anyway and the laptop's not exactly thin it's not massive but it's not super thin if you have the portable like little lap or a portable monitor with you like I have one and those they're pretty fucking thin and like you put that in your laptop sleeve and in your backpack and the steam deck case in the back of it has a part to put your charger and stuff in and so you just slip the cords in there with it and then put drop it in your backpack and it's about like in the space that the steam deck and that little portable monitor take up in your back backpack is about the same as a gaming laptop and it's big charging break. I'm not saying you're I'm not saying you're wrong but most people are would be much I mean you gotta remember you're also going to have to carry probably a power and those extra monitors drop power from the steam deck. Yeah, well the one that I have done I'm sure there are others that like our bulkier and need a bigger so you're going to get longer battery life on a laptop. That's sure that's that's for sure. That's not even a question and you're going to weigh less battery on the steam deck if your monitor is also drawing off from it. So you're going to you're going to have a hard time with so I just think that yeah there's going to be some people out there that are going to the exact same thing you're doing and that's fine. That's a perfectly good value. So I just don't think that we can say hey this is the way you should always just by default go just because I mean no, I mean maybe if you're going to my here's my point. If you're going to if you're going to buy a steam deck by because it's a wonderful gaming console and the computer is just kind of like an amazing extra. I mean don't buy it because it's a computer then you're getting the gaming consoles on the side. You know what I mean? That'd be that's the wrong way. I think of looking at it. But yeah well I I really think it's just like really it doesn't come down to like whether computer or like a gaming device. I guess it really comes down to do you need a computer and do you play game because if you do if you need a computer and you play games then it's perfect. But if you don't play games then no you don't you don't really you probably won't want the steam deck and it's not and I like I I completely agree with what you're saying. It's not it's not because it's not a good computer. It's just it has a whole bunch of bells and whistles for gamers that you're never going to use and you and you could get better battery life and stuff out of a laptop like that a hundred percent like obviously go with something else. But I think if you're a gamer and you you at the very least frequently play games like like no time bearing on it but just if if like the past week you you can remember five separate times where you're playing video games getting the steam deck as your computer is probably a good option because again assuming that you're also like when I guess when I say getting the steam deck as a computer I guess that that does imply that you're going to get the like you already have a monitor or something like you know a proper setup and then you're going to get like the dock for it as long as you get the dock for it like I mean it's at that point it's literally just regular computer just portable. So yeah see you said something there that was interesting if you you said if you can remember yourself playing games five times in the last week you're going to be good. I haven't played a game a single time in the last week so I'm not a gamer turns out. Yeah. I think I think that's where this allows me to kind of take it because you're obviously very entrenched in the ecosystem of like you're you are a fan boy when it comes to the steam deck. Yes. So I'm I can be the objective observer in this case that yes it sounds like it's really fantastic but I there's still obviously some areas where it's not going to be the thing that you should buy. Here's the question I have to answer. So we talked about the things that we discussed before this was launched how it could be really bad for Linux if it didn't launch well that fear has passed and it's obviously in a situation where it's very popular you still can't just go and buy one. It has a ton of games for it that play really really well the hardware is fantastic. They've kept their promise and this is basically an open source device. It's not actually an open source device but they've published like the schematics on it. They've done videos on their own YouTube channel over how to pull it apart and replace stuff on it's really so it's all this stuff right. They've done I mean you could never imagine Nintendo saying hey it's perfectly OK for you to open up your switch and repair it yourself if you want to. They would never do that. Steam Nintendo is attacking the Steam Deck videos that are showing that you can play. You can emulate switch games on it. Yeah. Nintendo is actively taking down channels and YouTube videos that show that off. So yeah Nintendo would never do the stuff that Valve is doing. Valve has kept their promise and this is the most open device you can basically buy and I think that's fantastic but the question then becomes has it done anything to spur actual Linux adoption. So if you buy this do you think that there are people out there who say wait this is really good. Linux is really good for gaming therefore I'm going to install Linux on my computer. I mean I'm sure that's happened but do you think that that has become a big thing that a lot of people are doing. Honestly I don't I that's a question that you can only speculate on and I will say they're based off of how good the experience is switching over to desktop mode on the Steam Deck and using their the KDE spin that they have here. I'm going to assume that there is most likely going to be an overwhelming number of people that get the Steam Deck just to play games or get it for their kids just to play games on and then them switch over to desktop mode and end up liking it and finding it familiar enough to Windows to where they are at least interested in figuring out how to install it or why it's because I'm sure there's going to be plenty of people that get the Steam Deck and switch over to desktop mode and are like oh this is really cool this is really neat and not know that it's not Windows like if we're being honest like when especially when it comes to like things like the Steam Deck like consoles most people don't really think about the OS like that's not really something that even ever even comes to mind so I'm sure there's going to be plenty of people that when they find out that it is very much like Windows they're like well how is this different and everything and that's their kind of entry point into Linux I think that's definitely a possibility and probably probably going to be very likely to intrigue people enough that aren't familiar with Linux into checking it out just because it is it is a very clean switch from the console experience of the Steam Deck to the desktop mode it's such a smooth transition and also like I don't know they've made it to where it just it feels good to switch over from one to the next like it feels so good like because like the thing is is like a what I've heard from a lot of people is like I can't I can't really see myself using the desktop mode on the go and to me that's like great like I've been kicked up laying like laying back in my bed with the Steam Deck over me and using the touch pads and then you can press the Steam Deck button and the X button and it will bring up the the touchscreen keyboard and like I mean it's really nice like it's it's a really nice user experience so with how good it is I see a lot of people checking it out. There are many things that I want to know that I don't think we'll ever know first of all I want to know the question that I just asked do do we know if there is an entry point for people who started on the Steam Deck and then installed Linux I think in a year or so when I've been doing YouTube a little bit longer I'm going to do a poll on my channel that I'll ask that question to see how many people's entry point into Linux was the Steam Deck because right now it's still pretty new I want it to be a little you know older and more available I guess by the time I do that poll the other thing that I would love to know is the number of people who actually use the desktop mode because you're too young you may not be you probably were pretty young do you remember the molar roll atrix no you were probably would have been pretty old it was we're pretty young probably be probably about 12 years old so that was a device it was a cell phone came out on AT&T and it had this fantastic idea basically what you do is you would buy an a laptop that came along was an accessory for it and you could plug your Motorola atrix into the back of it and it would be your computer right and this whole idea of convergence right where you have one device that does multiple things Ubuntu try that was the whole idea behind Unity and stuff and the Ubuntu phone and Firefox tried it and a lot of people have tried this thing where you know you have one device and it's kind of multiple things and I think time and time again it has been proven that when people buy something that is very specifically a thing for something so it's a game console first when people vast majority people I'd say everyone outside of Linux nerds buy the Steam Deck they buy it because it's going to play games that's the reason why they buy it they then that's what they buy it for and I'd be surprised if the vast majority of them even know that it's Linux or at least the I mean maybe they know tangentially that it's Linux but they don't know really what that means yeah or maybe they even know what it means but they don't really care it is because they're just gonna buy I'm sure a lot of them have heard that it's Linux but they have no idea what that means yeah and they also don't really care to know it's just like that's like a buzzword or like something that's like attributed to the Steam Deck that they just they parent to other people but they have no idea what actually means so the I would love to know because like we've had these the situation many times for like I said where companies try to come out with piece of hardware that does multiple things you know tries to be your computer and your phone at the same time tries to be your you know in this case your gaming console and your computer at the same time I'd be very interested to know how many people actually use the desktop mode and I mean on purpose not like they stumble into it I would I mean this is the cynic in me right that I'm very cynical when it comes to this I would be very surprised if very many people use the desktop mode at all that aren't Linux enthusiasts like of course of course you're using it you're you're a Linux nerd I agree with you I think you're right I don't think most people I really don't know it may not be that most people aren't but I do agree with you I think most people are buying it for the console experience and not really to use as a computer but to me I think that's a pro like that's a good thing that that means the console experience is fucking good I don't think it's a bad thing I just I would I'm just very curious because in order in order for that first question to ever happen and in order for I think that in order for the steam deck to be a gateway to Linux in a lot of cases they're going to have to stumble on that desktop mode because if you just use the steam the steam deck for gaming and never really interact with Linux itself you're just using steam all the time you Linux kind of fades into the background there to be like using an Android phone right you use Android technically you're using Linux but you don't know it you don't care you're interacting with the command line or compiling your kernel or whatever other than you Josh you're obviously trying to gentle on I know I know that right now of course but I mean the point is that you're using Linux but you're not really using Linux because you're not going to have any of the experience that you would need to install Linux find alternative programs and stuff like that deal wrong with networking issues stuff like that I think that's what makes the steam deck so great is that there's never a chance where you have to do any of that like the way that valve has approached the steam deck is it's it's almost perfect and I'll elaborate on how it's not perfect you you only get the terminal like very in-depth the Linux experience when you want to step out of basic computing like if you just if you want to go over to the desktop mode like for one I think the way that's the the steam deck is set up is fantastic like for most people you won't even know there's desktop mode and but when you do find it it works also so it's like a cool hidden feature of the device for most users but once you get over into the desktop mode for installing applications and moving files around and doing basic like user level stuff you you don't have to fiddle around do anything with the terminal you don't you don't have to do any of that but if you want to install like you know things from the a you are just mess around with pac-man all of that stuff you run basic terminal command like super simple but like basic terminal commands and then you can go off and do that and you can go off and do the more advanced Linux user stuff but you don't have to and they also haven't implemented the system in a way where it's different than other Linux systems like as soon as you turn off the read-only shit as soon as you do that you're left with a pretty much vanilla obviously valve modified but a for the most part vanilla arch experience so anything that you read tutorial wise or follow guides on online is gonna be accurate like the way they've done everything it's very smart and very from a user's perspective it's very fluid and it makes sense and it's really nice to use though I think there's probably going to be a lot of people that find that and stumble on to the desktop experience and that's what leads them down into like all Linux is probably cool I might use it other places yeah well I'm looking forward to getting mine I suppose I don't have a feeling like I know myself very well I'm a I'm a very self-aware person and I know exactly how much I gain I've talked about this before I have a I have seven Xbox games sitting on a shelf over on the other wall and three of them have remained in their cellophane wrappers since I bought them 10 maybe 15 years ago that's how much of a gamer I am now I also I'm also the guy who every time I see a steam cell and it has a game that I think that I might someday want to play I buy that thing and I have the vast majority of my steam library are games I have never played ever you not even installed that's just the type of gamer quote-unquote I am so I have a feeling that even if the steam X is as excellent as you claim it to be that it's going to be just like the PlayStation Vita was for me I used it for a little while and really enjoyed it and then it collected dust and I never played it again so for you I highly I highly see this being the steam deck like experience for you you get it you play with it for a while you like it but then it sits down and collects a lot of dust until like for me I think the steam deck for you will be really awesome for when you have to travel someone like the steam deck like that's the one thing about the steam deck that really appeals to me is I can take it with me somewhere and I can have my entire like work station set up broke down and put in a backpack and that that to me is what makes it really good it's not in like a laptop in the sense that you can just pull it out and quickly set up and start working it's that you can take your whole like work station and take it with you that's what's really cool but for you yeah I highly highly see you getting it playing around with it then it collecting dust until you have to like go somewhere for something and then it being like really awesome it could be it could be so it'll be interesting and I think that we both agree that the steam deck has been a phenomenal success it'll be interesting to see what happens when they finally catch up with orders and you can just go buy one I think that will be cool one thing that we need to know to I'm just gonna say this out loud so that I remember is that next week I'll have to wear different headphones because apparently this microphone hears your voice because I'm listening I'm listening in open back earphones so apparently it's so close to my earphones or my headphones that it can hear you and that's how sensitive this damn microphone is I suppose I can move it further away from me hmm that's fun so I don't know how well this recording is going to go but that's going to make post a lot more interesting is what I'm what I'm saying apparently I might as well just be using speakers say something for me would you yeah this is me talking say something again saying something again oh definitely I can hear you just about as good outside of the headphones as I can inside them that's it that's great I don't know what I'm going to do about that that's you know I bet you the probably the best thing to do would be to do something like this where you can't see me but instead of having the microphone off to the side like I normally do I'm sure that was very I'm sure everybody who's listening to this are is very happy that I just manhandled the microphone into a different positions here hey you want to hear the most annoying sound in the world yeah that's when I move my microphone I feel terrible anytime thing is like as soon as I start moving it it creaks so bad yeah I'm and I'm continuing to move it so I don't know probably needs to be like this down here like very low so that I don't breathe directly into it we'll see if it see if that helps it's not gonna be a big deal except for on the podcast because this is the only time when I have you know people talking to me anyways what is that Xbox Matt is mentioning Xbox dude how old are you there's still Xbox players out there lots of them I'm sure the steamback is not the only game in town all right you need me Xbox player like let's just be honest if you're playing on Xbox as a grown man like why I like I can never Xbox Xbox chat is one of the most degenerate places ever I know I know tons of adults who play Xbox games they don't do chat yes like but see that like that's the thing like I I don't understand having an Xbox for multiplayer games at all because like I've never like you will hear with the worst things that humanity has to offer like like auditory wise on Xbox game that's not even close to being true and I say that knowing that you're right but the thing is is that the the insults that come across on Xbox chat are so unoriginal it's basically like it's the world's biggest your mama joke because every single one of it is a nine year old who has no wit whatsoever no intelligence and no creativity trying to come up with an insult that's going to somehow make you cry but really your mama is so fat like I swear to God I've I've heard more kids learn and then parrot the n-word on Xbox game chat it is the just it's a cesspool I don't I don't understand how grown people still use Xbox I I don't get it I just I'll never get it also in this day and age why buy an Xbox especially if you have a Windows computer because like just buy a graphics card for it it's the same ship like you can buy the game pass and play all the Xbox you can you can buy an Xbox for like three hundred dollars in order to get a top-end graphics card get to spend like nine hundred dollars so there's a reason that's not true anymore you know like just just go look at graphics card prices now you can get you can get a sixty seven hundred XT for like I don't know like four hundred fifty bucks so like three hundred well nobody but nobody buys an AMD cards and I just look at I would too but I'm just saying most people want the Nvidia stuff and the Nvidia stuff is still it's not as expensive as it was six months ago but definitely is the pricey but yeah I mean some people like your PC gamer okay PC gamers are notorious for not liking console gamers it's just the thing that's right it's not that I don't like console my buddy has my buddy has a PS5 I'm sorry but we're still friends like meant that that's where Republicans are born I'm sorry that's so funny when it comes to like console gamers what like the only thing that gets me is like but like I don't understand buying an Xbox anymore like I understand a PlayStation like Sony doesn't make like you know an operating system they don't like they don't really do the same things that Microsoft does and when you get a PlayStation you get like exclusive games that you can only play on your PlayStation the Xbox there's a fucking Xbox app on Windows like you you get game pass and so all the games you can play on your Xbox here's a thing though Tyler is that the Windows experience on a TV is horrible it's absolutely trotious so messing messing around with the Xbox app and trying to play on a on a big screen TV is not a good experience when you compare it to the Xbox which is actually built for TV it's much better I mean it's just miles in the way better so that is yes you have fair point so but the one thing that you said it is absolutely true is that Sony does do seem to do a better job of exclusives or at least they used to now that Microsoft's buying literally every single game developer out there that's probably not going to be true anymore like they even bought like fucking Call of Duty now they own you know like they're going to own literally everything it's going to be Microsoft and Disney they're going to own the entire goddamn I don't get it like I genuinely don't get it I also don't understand how like there is plenty of people that are happy with what Microsoft's doing buying up all these game studios like out what I mean I suppose in their defense Microsoft has done an okay job over the years of not interfering too much with the game studios that they do own that's true but they also have a reputation where that's not always going to be true you know what I mean they have a very long reputation of eventually killing off things that they just know that they're not going to make money because that's what they're in there for there and it's going to be like then they're never they're in the position where they want to eventually probably make everything part of their game pass where you pay for your subscription and all of the games are there and it's going to be just like if you want to watch the new Lord of the Rings show you have to subscribe to Amazon in order to do it right it's going to be that thing but for games and it's not going to be that great of an experience because Microsoft doesn't know how to make software worth a damn like they really really do I know a lot of people like Windows but their their software experience for the most part is God awful and always has been best I mean granted I'm the biggest bias person in the entire world in the Linux nerds so well bad and you also hate Windows with with passion like the thing is like if you if you buy a Sony PlayStation and first of all at least you know that underneath it all it's open BSD right like it's right it's running BSD I don't know what the does Xbox might even use Linux I don't even know no you know the Xbox uses the NT kernel right it uses Windows so it's not Linux so at least if you buy if you buy the PlayStation you know the underlying operating system is at least a fraction of open source string it's not really but you know whatever but also Sony doesn't Sony just really has a really bad problem naming things and they've never come across as the most evil corporation in the world they just you know kind of exist Microsoft obviously the devil well I don't know about devil but they're just one of the devil's terribly well no they're just terribly ran like they just like I don't under like there's in the executive world it blows my mind how there's so many people that are completely useless that make like my yearly income is like a fraction of what they make probably in a month like I don't understand like there's Microsoft execs Mozilla I mean we've spent plenty of time talking about Mozilla execs that make way too much money like I just it's one of those things where I think there's a lot of companies that are just they're ran very poorly and Microsoft is one of those companies where they're ran as a very successful like publicly traded company but they're ran is just one of the most anti-consumer like just terrible companies to deal with I think that I think the thing when it comes to Microsoft is that we have to remember and I did feeling defensive of them good but I'm not because I'm not I think that the biggest thing to remember about them is that they are not a consumer company at all anymore yes they still sell Windows and Xbox and stuff like that but those businesses are so small when it comes to their enterprise working specifically Azure or Azure or a third or whatever the hell it's called you know that thing makes them billions and billions of dollars that's where their money isn't and that's where their CEO came from he's the enterprise guy so that's the reason why it feels like sometimes Xbox kind of languages it's the reason why Sony always beats the pants off the Xbox right because Sony the the new Sony console they come always comes out first it never comes out with the same problems that the Xbox always comes out with usually has better exclusives I don't know that that was so true this generation but you know then for whatever people the the PlayStation has some some of the same nostalgic factor that Nintendo has like the the original PlayStation and PlayStation one were around before the Xbox and people remember those games like the even though the original PlayStation came out like many years after like the SNES and stuff like that they still kind of have that same era around them like the vintage video games stuff like that like people it's much more popular at least it feels like it's much more popular to emulate like the first gen PlayStation games than it is to emulate something that was for the original Xbox you know what I mean because first of all the original Xbox had like zero exclusives like really other than like Halo that was like the only one that I remember and I'm sure I'm sure there's like an Xbox nerd out there oh they had all these but nobody else remembers those but it just feels like the if you're a true gamer how the hell did we at least we stayed in the gaming spear winning with our topics I guess I don't know the the whole conversation just it's just really Microsoft buying all the game studios if you are a gamer shouldn't excite you because just because those game studios will have access to the Microsoft money bag doesn't mean that they can't be shut down or absorbed or changed in a way that doesn't really make it good for them and good for gamers right it doesn't mean that they're automatically going to be like horrible but well also nothing says that Microsoft acquiring them is is Microsoft saying that hey you're allowed to touch the money bag now yeah like well I mean they bought so many they probably don't even remember all the names of the things that they've bought this right so there's there's there's a group of guys in a closet somewhere in Redmond developing the next whatever and they've never heard from Microsoft ever since they gave him the money you know what I mean so it's one of those things it's just maybe this is a topic we should talk about sometime like as a main show like the whole idea of companies that are so interested in acquiring literally everything like Google and Microsoft and Facebook where the point where we you know we just kind of let them like we have an antitrust system in this country I don't know what they do like you know there's like a whole department that's dedicated to antitrust but they're all just like there's there they're sitting there they're smoking weed they're perfectly happy little people right you know they've never said a bad word against anybody they're just there chilling out probably playing some video games and every once in a while you hear him you'll hear him say oh maybe we should break up Facebook today like and then there's the the guy in the back that does the really hard dress like nah you know it's just what do those people do why are we paying them they're obviously really not good at their jobs anyways totally off topic and I probably managed to offend every weed smoker out there by comparing them to the government I don't know I mean I didn't do what they did it's pretty hard to offend weed people who smoke weed I mean they're just happy they're happy people um that's right that's right I'm just you know not a faint of smoke I can't I'm a pizza is my weed okay it is okay I would smoke it I'm just not just saying that if you could smoke pizza I would try anyways moving on to the thingy of the week so every week Tyler and I get together and we find the most interesting things that we want to talk about sometimes their application sometimes their other things and this week is no different so Tyler what is your thingy of the weekend I'm stunned that it's not the steam deck well you told me I couldn't do that anymore I know I did do that I'm surprised that you listened I'm just I know I don't I don't do that normally but this time I did my thingy of the week is the cat pooch and color scheme or color palette whatever you can search it up it's absolutely fantastic I I've been using it for quite a while now I really like their I use their mocha I use the mocha wav which is like their darker their darkest color scheme with the purple accenting I really like it yeah it's that's what I've been using lately and I'm sticking to it I like it okay so I'm going to actually show you this or show everybody else this on screen so you can actually see this color scheme I have a course I have a race of it and I can change it with my script so that's you're seeing on screen right now the cat pussine cat puchin cat puchino cat whatever the hell the fuck it's called yeah color scheme yeah so that's that's what that is so yeah that is a good that is a good color scheme alright so my pick with the week is one that I probably should not do on YouTube I'm just saying this is called yt-dlp it is a fork of YouTube DL and it is the thing you want to use if you want to creatively acquire things off from YouTube that's as much as I'm going to say about it because I don't want to get demonetized but it is very good and the reason why I put it here is not because YouTube DL or whatever it is is bad but yt-dlp is like 100 million times faster like seriously it is astonishingly fast I can't even build begin to tell you how fast it is like I downloaded something randomly and it on with the regular DL I it took like 10 minutes and then it crashed like 9 90 percent of the way through and so I was like you know I'm gonna try the fork of this thing and it did it in 30 seconds the whole album with like 30 seconds it was done it was nuts so yeah definitely check that out if you creatively acquired things off from the Google thing that we I'm trying not to get demonetized people I can't say the words okay I'm probably already gonna get demonetized probably gonna get because they scan these videos for anyone who says YouTube and then the words DL you know so I I'm so getting my channel pulled and Sionara I guess I don't know I think you're crossed yes oh wait here's what knock on it anyway so that is it for us this week coming up next week I actually have no clue what we're gonna be talking about we have a whole bunch of topics here that we could talk about so we'll choose one of those things and we'll talk about something really good probably not gaming again well we'll we'll move away from gaming because if we talk about gaming then everybody leads to Tyler talking about the steam deck I will not I will not stop simping for the steam deck regardless of topic okay it does just want to make that clear okay I want to know how much anybody in the chat or anyone who listens this would pay Tyler to install gentoo on the steam deck okay I would definitely do it for $100 I'm just saying someone paid him 50 bucks for plan 9 how much would you would you install plan 9 or whatever it's called on steam deck no but I mean if someone wanted me to like do like a week on something what weird and wacky like open BSD or something like that I could be talked into it or like free BSD or something like that I could be talked into it we have to start yeah we'd have to start talking numbers and shit but I'm trying to get you to my myth getting you into gentoo again five cents he's not that cheap he's at least a dime damn it's somebody can have to go back a shitload of dimes oh yeah it's gonna be a lot of dimes for me to do that a lot why would you why would YouTube care about YouTube dash deal because it downloads things illegally off from YouTube specifically things that you should own because you don't want to cooperate to them as the reason why so anyways that is it for this is this time if you want to gain contact with us all the contact information was earlier in the show but you can find all that stuff at YouTube dot com slash the Linux cast you can support me on page on page on dot com slash Linux cast Tyler has a page on a YouTube channel that he doesn't use anymore and a discord that he's not on anymore like seriously this man on my discord like there was like a whole like this entire last week I saw you online like one time I'm just saying that you used to be in voice chat like 24 7 now hardly ever there is like and we all know why like he's playing video games that's what he's doing this is not why okay look if we're going to be completely honest really in all honestly the reason that I was gone for so long and I've been gone I I tried to talk about it but I don't think many people saw me talk about it but I did make post on discord and I thought I made a post on YouTube I may not have I really don't know but I was developing a game I wanted to make a survival game that was open source for Linux but I also wanted to make it a little bit more higher quality than what I am capable of making right now so I was taking classes on animating which I've I finished my class on animating and everything in blender and doing some stuff with FPS animations like making smooth good like reload animation stuff like that I finished that and I've been working heavily on the game project but then as of here recently I figured out that Daisy works on Linux and doesn't just work on Linux it also has some profiles and everything and works great on the deck so the whole game project's ideal was to bring something like Daisy to be open source but also on the deck and Daisy's already there so I've just been playing Daisy but heavily here here recently I'm just saying he has a YouTube channel he has a discord server you might catch him on there if you can pry him away from the steam deck anyways you wish before wish go wish change the situation good lord Matt words words not that hard English bro patreon.com slash linus cast thanks to everybody who does support me on patreon 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