 Next question is from coach cure. Do you find the reverse grip bench press useful or is it just an old school overrated move? I cannot remember the last time I did. It's been a long time since I've done this exercise. So I you know when I got introduced to these there was a power lifter that was in the magazines a lot who used to do his bench press something Clark. He looked like he had the record at one point. Yeah, maybe Doug can look him up. He was like he was he was either Filipino or Hawaiian massive dude and he would bench press like 700 pounds with this reverse grip. Yeah. And I remember thinking like what like what's the advantage there what's the value right so reverse get bench presses first off. Gotta get comfortable with them. Okay because you don't want to fail on that and also racking with the reverse grip can be very scary. This is like a good partner exercise is a good partner exercise or get yourself in position and practice and learn how to do it right. Oh, and was it Anthony Clark? Yeah, show a picture of this guy. So this is the guy that if you remember that I don't know just I remember and I know I remember that guy never would never be able to wow look at you remembered all that. Yeah, he's Filipino. Yeah. So and he would bench like ridiculous amounts of weight with the with the reverse grip. But anyhow the reverse grip what it does is it forces the elbows and 805 is his bench record. Yeah. So he passed away actually 2005. So it forces the elbows in so you can use more front delt and believe it or not elbows in actual works also works the upper chest more because of the way that the fibers of the upper chest orient when your elbows are in decelerating to I mean aren't you like engaging your biceps a bit more maybe stabilizing it. Yeah, a lot of tricep though. Yeah, a lot of tricep front delt and you get that upper chest. Now I noticed when I did these and I started to practice and get good at them that I got a little carryover to my regular bench press and this is why I started doing them because back then bench press was the I liked them. I was on a kick for a while where it was I used to put it in the routine. That's why when he brought this stuff like wow I haven't even thought about that exercise in so long. Yeah. You know it's I mean here's a great part of once you've been lifting for a really long time it's a great movement and you can absolutely and you know I where would you put it though are you guys putting it in as a replacement of a chest exercise or would you put it in as a OC so I would use it more often like a like a close bench press for your triceps I would sometimes do a reverse no I would I would do it tricep thing I would do instead of a bench press or I would do it as a another press for chest right so if I did my bench press see I use it for triceps that's and by the way you can do that yes you can you can you with an exercise especially like that one you can put more emphasis on one muscle more than the other like Sal was talking about the main ones that are incorporated there if you're trying to get the chest out of it you can really focus on chest if you want triceps you can focus on using more that's what's kind of cool about compound lifts is you can mentally concentrate on a muscle that you want to take over the lift more yeah you know you know it really too what it does with the bench is you know how if you want to bench a lot of weight how you get real tight and you kind of suck in the elbows and activate the lats the reverse grip bench press really encourages that tight feeling in fact I'm surprised Justin yeah I've never yeah experiment got my brain you know going this is an exercise has your name all over I feel like if you did them you'd actually love well it's interesting because you know how the the stance I don't know if it's like taekwondo where they always have this position and they're like reminds me of that's like the power stance but yeah I've never messed with that I know would you also then experiment with doing something like if you take that and then you bring it back over your head and then you do some pullovers oh wow so you do like a pullover to a press yeah I'm wondering that's an interesting exercise yeah I don't know yeah I feel weird well the amount of weight you could probably press it not much yeah you'd have to you'd have to use lightweight or do that no I mean by itself like I would just be using yeah for for for doing that with just the reverse grip I'm just thinking about using the reverse grip I'll have to experiment well like Sal said I think I mean this this exercise I think would would be in your wheelhouse this is like place all your strength yeah it's your strengths I mean so I imagine you know as many times as I've done it we could probably do it right now you probably out outperform Sal and I both because those are your strengths