 Welcome back to the breakfast on plus TV Africa. A little bit of history. Let's go back to the year 2004 in Russia where there was a very very shocking attack by Chechen separatists on a school in Russia They eventually held hostage more than a thousand Kids and you know this lasted for longer than could have been imagined Eventually led to the loss of over 340 people It was an armed gang of Chechen separatist rebels who went to the school in southern Russia and took more than a thousand people hostage It happened on the first of September and it was the day of the new school year for millions of students across Russia Nearly three hundred and forty and this is the sad part about half of them died in the ensuing three day or deal The rebels stormed the school at 9 30 a.m. Just after a ceremony celebrating the new school year had ended Rebels of course place children into the room And of course place explosives at the entrances and exits to the room and the auditorium school of term aware. They were all held Not long after about about the third day the rebels started to shoot children Russian special forces stormed the school and Over 30 of them of course the Russian or the Chechen separatists were killed. I think it was just one That survived this attack And was arrested but all 32 of them that carried out the kidnapping and this very very Dastardly act where killed when the separatists or when the Russian special forces entered the school building this is very very I Wouldn't say relatable, but we've had conversations like this on you know on the breakfast Of course across Nigeria when we've had ahead of People being kidnapped here in Nigeria school children mostly being kidnapped here in Nigeria and people have also suggested always suggested You know that there should be other ways asides Negotiating and paying ransom that they should be you know very very, you know Critical ways that this could be handled, you know Can any of these sites where these victims are kept be stormed? Can we have Nigeria's special forces? Stominy of these things that they're tactical ways that these things can be handled But of course, we've never really been able to experience or you know see any of those Playouts here in Nigeria, but that's what Russia had to do and since then I don't think we've heard anything about Chechen separatists Kidnapping a thousand students are kidnapping anybody for ransom or for ready on the reason But happened on this day in 2004 now. Let's move down here to Nigeria in 2015 We're on this day 31 workers were punished over lateness and this happened with governor IO fire ship in AQT state he basically stormed setting schools in the state Earlier than normal and everybody who came late to school that day was Fired no fewer than 31 civil servants who of course were in various ministries departments and agencies in the state We're punished for coming back to late His visit exposed all of them, you know, because he showed up in this MDAs before 8 a.m In an unmarked car Without the usual convoy and aids or that the gates of the secretariat locked after him Okay, this wasn't actually in school. This was in Secretariat's and of course the unsuspecting civil servants walked into the hands of the Waiting governor who kept to watch at the gate over 30 late comers Apprehended by the governor and directed that disciplinary committee be set up to try them with appropriate sanctions It was you know a very interesting discussion in 2015 when this happened, but you know I think I have also pointed out that It may look like a crude way of handling issues in Nigeria and this is what we've always You know a pointed out the fact that we need to have systems We need to have better, you know systems that operate that make it more difficult for you to break the law difficult for you to evade Punishment when you break the law when you go against the rules Well, instead of having those proper and interesting systems We then have very crude means of carrying out these things in 2007 I believe when Inugus state Government when the Chimarukin Namanee finishes tenure and of course it was taken over by Sullivan Chime There was something that was very interesting about the way Sullivan Chime ran his government He used to once in a while drive around town and look out for street lights that were broken Look out for traffic lights that were no longer working look out for roads that seem to be you know Getting spoiled even after they were fixed and he will call the commissioner or whoever it is whose department whose Agency is meant to be handling that it will speak with them and warn them give them an automaton to ensure that it is fixed That was him getting himself involved and getting to be hands-on with what was going on in the state And if you notice between 2007 and about 2010 Inugus state changed completely and Sullivan Chime has been praised as one of the best governors Then in Inugus state has ever had So it is really you know I'm sharing that story because I want to encourage or I want to just point out the fact that the fact that you're a governor and You and government house doesn't mean that you should not be able to every now and then have your hands on ground be able to observe for yourself Yes, you've appointed people. Yes, you've put people in these positions to handle these things But at times when they are failing it's just responsibility to ensure that these people don't embarrass your government because you will be blamed a lot of People will remember who's commissioner for this or commissioner for health commissioner for education Nobody so a lot of people don't even care It is the government and the governor who gets to be blamed for some of all these things And the failure, you know of his government to you know ensure a very very Or better society and so I identify she may have been criticized for taking those steps because they're pretty crude But you know, there is some sense in what he did and this happened in 2015 Stay with us our first major conversation for today We're going to be talking about the president that Nigeria needs in 2023 There have been postulations. They have been some names mentioned There have been some people who have also mentioned that they would like to run But what does Nigeria really need that's what comes up next will be joined by is the kill yeah I talk and Nick Agouli both public affairs analyst to share with us. Stay with us