 Boom, how's it going fam Anthony Johnson in today founder 21 studios co-founder of the red man group founder of the 21 convention 22 convention 21 University 10,000 other things on the internet and chief investigator for the Manisphere Bureau of Investigation Now today's episode 166 of the red man group before we get into today's show the title is of course make men great again very similar to my hat make men alpha again and Our event headline this year make man alpha again our new motto our new mission to make man alpha not a bunch of loser weak beta males Before we get into the show our sponsor is actually our own event 21 summit It actually includes three events in one you can see speakers here speaking at the event this year myself Richard gran and Jack Donovan coach Greg Adams. 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I confirmed it 100% That one of the man's fear is toughest critics of single moms and of obese women fat women feminists all this shit Donovan sharp calm the king Kong fraud He actually in spite of Criticizing and attacking single mothers and feminists and overweight women all these years. He actually himself is secretly married to a single mother Turns out that this woman does have a child that is not her niece She doesn't even have a niece her sister She does exist only as a son though. She has a nephew. No niece. This is her daughter This is her ex-husband and her real name is Cynthia ashlock and her secret private married husband Donovan sharp Edwin Hopkins is married to a single mother In spite of making fun of single mothers and making fun of the men who wife them up, right? We call them calls them cucks and you know, he's like beta males and shit like that So it's another big big expose. We'll be digging into in the coming days But I didn't want to make that announcement very briefly It actually gets worse than that. I found the actual yesterday confirmed 100 percent that not only she divorced Which you already kind of knew she was so nasty and so toxic that unlike 80 percent of divorces where the woman files first The ex-husband actually filed for divorce against her That is how disgusting this woman was and how much of a liar She's been for all these years in the man a sphere with Donovan sharp Pretending that she was an aunt and she is like taking care of her niece or some shit It was all a lie. It was all bullshit She's been a single mom the whole fucking time that this guy's been on the internet preaching to millions of Beta males on YouTube and stuff all these we co-dependent simps He actually himself wifed up a single mom an obese one No less who is allegedly and reportedly menopausal at this point. I call him the master of menopause Now without further ado, I want to bring on our today's guest and I want to discuss the Paul what is what is your initial reaction to Donovan sharp is hot take care Wiping up a single mom and lying about it for the past five years since 2017 and a man is fair I'm trying to stop crying You told me some of that, but yeah, I didn't know all of that stuff man. That's pretty you know, I Don't know the guy and all I've seen is what he's displayed all Bullshit that he said it's really fucked up when you've got dudes That do what he's done. There's a bunch of them, but he's just the one that decided to poke your cage It's fucked up because if This is the deal that shit's hilarious right there It's funny and it's funny only because of this fake shit that he does if this dude would have been If he would have been honest about it didn't go the rich Cooper route and just said hey listen People are broken and and you know sometimes people make mistakes and you know just because she has a kid doesn't make it bad Then this would be no factor. You know what I mean? Then people would be like dude you're being petty because she's not hot But all of that shit makes one big ball of shit and it's hilarious because this dude when you know when all of this When all of this tactical aggression started toward these dudes I Said it earlier and I don't I don't spend a lot of time hammering the nail They need to go away and this right here. There's still be dudes that look at that and go well You know what he helped me he helped me through feeling the fucking blank But if they at this point if these guys don't understand that they're following characters Then it's really you're just you're throwing you're throwing pearls at bigs man You know, and there's no pun intended here Yeah, yeah, oh, yeah, let's pull up the I forgot we have a lot of how could I forget here is dirty Eddie Edwin Hopkins with Cynthia ashlock miss Piggy and Turns out, you know, I thought she was just an obese older woman That's something I want to mention too I didn't quite mention that my introduction when I was you know given this breaking news But Donovan sharp Edwin Hopkins is one of the most notorious critics of women post wall, right? That's what they call it in the man is fear. It's not just Donovan that says it, but he's one of the most Known for saying that and his his wife his secret wife here is private married wife or whatever is double post wall She's past the 30 wall and the 40 wall double post walk and is a single mom and is overweight It's even been reported to me. I believe it's true based on what I've seen So is alleged now last year after my documentary making fun of how fat she was and Donovan was lying about it for all these years By about it's like about 50 pounds off her weight. She was about 180 190. He was saying she was like 130 I mean, she was a big hefty woman. Look talking like a she looked like a truck Yeah, she was like line back Let's see if I still got a pic of that pulled up Yeah, I mean she's a big woman, I mean she real thick, you know, let's see if I got Oh, here it is. Yeah, she big woman. Look at that. Oh, dude. He liked Yeah, oh, yeah She'll cover the gap real good man But anyway, what I'm saying is it's not only this little mom stuff it's it's it's all that Yeah, like you said a big ball of shit She's double post wall all this stuff and he makes fun of men Oh, you know for years now probably five six years in writing and his videos About men who wipe up single moms and date older women and all this stuff I mean plus he's super fucking racist. He hates black people I don't think he actually some guys some black guys hate white people. I don't think he hates white people I think he hates black people And there's his wife I hear the way I Don't it's done. I've been sure is he mixed or see all the way black I don't know he looks mixed, but I think he's all black. I don't know though I'm not even sure he knows I think he's talked about it a little bit He was if he was mixed I talked about that with Tony a bit on our couple nights ago And if he was a mixed dude and had that, you know a similar experience that I did that I I could understand his Not really not really because he what diamond sharp hates he hates I'll just use the term in the street vernacular. He hates real niggas Because probably his whole life. He's been that fat goofy dude. You know what I mean just sweaty gross He talks about his his coke days. I'm sure that was just glorious I'm can just see his fat slob ass to sweat and all the time trying to be a player and You know seeing the dudes that were really about that life Seeing you know seeing how easy it was for them. There he is See I knew dudes that look like him that actually had money and you know, we're at that were what see This is what that haven't tried to portray You know The biggie Smalls biggest be at he had hose because he had money he was in that life without you know Where everybody's chasing that that bag that issue if if he grew up around those kind of guys and he talks about him He talks about him with venom. So I'm sure that he probably took a sack from him or something They they punked him. That's the only way you look at those kind of guys and go Fuck your fuckers because they fucked you up. You know what I mean? You're not you're not above them if you were dealing with that life if dabbling in the white game You don't have that life You don't have that that that that image that attitude about people in that life unless they Snatch your money out of your head and slap you to get the fuck out of here because what when I was doing that shit That's what we would do to people like him spineless motherfuckers come up and and we used to get a lot of stuff from dudes like him that would be where they didn't belong and So when I hear him talk about About you know black people this that when I speak about the black condition. I'm talking about fixing shit from the inside out I'm not afraid to go in those neighborhoods I'm not afraid to go where those people at because I know how to speak that language I used to I used to live in that in that atmosphere. So it's not foreign to me But at the same time when I grew up in that atmosphere, I got made fun of because the way I talk that's okay You know what I mean? You're talking shit. You talk away. Okay? What's next, you know, if I talk to you when I go home to get beat worse than I might get beat right here So let's do what we needed that just says what the fucking needs to say right now to get people to pay attention to Yeah, he's an opportunity opportunist to the extra yes, yeah I've suspected for a while to your right that and this is I don't know I think there's some relation to it the black managed sphere kicked him out to a couple years ago Like just rejected him for being a fraud Because what he did was I think I don't I don't get in all that bullshit. I pay attention to it I think it's funny, but I think what he did Anthony is he he got his launch By going to O'Shea or whoever that dude is basically the gatekeeper of the black master He seems to be yeah, he seems to be the conduit when those guys want to be accepted by by that group I mean there I mean to me I I didn't join a fraternity when I was in college because I don't need anybody to give me fucking permission to do shit So if you're Mexican green Italian, right? I don't I don't need it If you want if you listen you listen if you don't you don't but I don't Pinhole myself like that, but I think he built his following there and then jump ship You know, that's what it that's what it sounds like to me because once he came over and started working with you Yeah, from what I gather he shut the door to them You know what I mean? And that's when you do that. There's a certain rule in the jungle When you fuck over the plug man, whenever you fuck over the plug you better make sure because when you come back Man, you probably won't be able to come back But when you come back There will be a penance to be paid and that goes pretty much for anything you you get blessed Somebody says, you know what? I'm give you this come up fool And then you do it then you go link up with some other dude and say fucking fools man I'm gonna do it with you and you never go shit You can find your head in the box doing that shit and that's basically what he did They put his head in the box and send it back to him like take your fucking ass back over there We don't want you started swinging on Kevin Samuel's nuts. It's been a desperate grass He's like a dude falling down his own well as shit. Just grab it anything like oh, no That's another piece of shit. I know he's desperate and it's I think it's glorious because that's why I call him Donovan Shit his pants here. I mean all the time fucking shark mama any of that He didn't have to do any of that shit that he's done You know what I mean like I did it all to himself. He's his own worst enemy He blame and he blames me for everything. I'm like the boogeyman is dude. I'm like John You know what you are and this is the deal. This is the this I grew up in a different era when when I was in the game There were rules there were rules and regulations man and people that were playing the game they knew what they were and Basically, it's cops and robbers when I was when we were doing dirty shit. I Didn't get mad at the fucking detectives if and when they caught us, you know what I mean I didn't get I wasn't stoked that we got busted, but I didn't go this motherfucking whole-ass detective You know didn't know dude, you know how you don't have the detective on your ass Don't do the thing, you know, I mean don't do that thing That that right there he can blame you all you all he wants and he he can justify it Because of the fact that you're like a fucking shark in bloody waters now because of what he did Yeah, but what did you do? That's my whole message is listen man You can blame the women you can blame I can blame everybody in my life But the common denominator and everywhere I want to look is me. So it's like shit. I Sound pathetic if I look for someone else to blame. He lied. He manipulated he used people he turned his back What did you think was gonna fucking happen? You know what I mean? If he was dealing with people like himself, they would have been like, you know, what man sure don't I understand? Come on, bud. You know what you want to do the next convention. No, you're dealing with men And when you slight a man. Oh motherfucker, there's vengeance and it doesn't stop until you're done breathing not Physically but in this space you need to breathe no more You need to breathe no fucking more and that's what happens when you step on snakes, bro I think he's gonna go I think he's gonna go back. I think he's gonna go bankrupt man 100% He is bleeding cash. Yeah, well shit if his if his old lady just Got a vacuum in her fat ass. How much did that cost? You know, I mean that wasn't free Maybe that's why he's hemorrhaging money. He's like trying to make this 40-something-year-old chick into a 20-year-old Well, she's stealing all this money. I know I know this game plan all day long and I've confirmed it to a degree and but it's the ammo for every chick like this the amber herds of the world and the Jada Pinkett Smiths and all this crap, right? They're they're succubuses and their parasites basically Succubus is even too kind of it to be they're basically leeches is what they are and she's gonna leech Devon sharp Cynthia ashlock is gonna leech every fucking dollar She can out of that fat fuck Edwin Hopkins Donovan sharp until he's bone dry and then she's gonna leave his ass He is too stupid and to beta and to blue pill the exact opposite of what he preaches to understand that He should know that any any, you know, legit red pill guy or whatever would understand that What it would see through the veneer of this fake single mom sucking all things Old just pushing 50 years old all stuff suck of money out of them. She basically if even if you look at his channel We'll pull it up in a second. She has taken over. Let's pull it up. Actually Now that you just put this picture out and this shit's gonna be exposed. I wouldn't be surprised Instead of that weird profile shot that they do where she's oh, they're showing her straight up now Yeah, the whole fucking channel is all her look. This is a photo. She made all this herself She's terrible at Photoshop, but she can at least put together a simple collage like this This is a photo of her. It doesn't even have Donovan in it The whole fucking channel Donovan sharp Edwin Hopkins in 2017 He would have roasted a beta male like this who puts his woman on everything and took over his whole fucking business She is the brains of the operation She uses him as a front man to suck money out of all their little beta males that follow it are stupid enough Still to follow him. And yeah, like you said that the followers are as culpable or whatever as guilty as he is There if you still follow this guy, you were a fucking loser 100% stone cold dumb fuck low IQ room temperature IQ Fucking beta male loser. You're an idiot just like this gullible fucking simp who wifed up in secret this fat Aging menopausal single mom lying piece of trash. This shit is hysterical I mean she took over everything. This was like explicitly against 2017 2018 Donovan sharp mantras and principles and all this bullshit That's why even back then people started abandoning him because he was like, I'll never let a woman mod my channel What does he do? That's her as a mod. I'll never let a woman take over this and do this This guy is the biggest fucking simp. He makes Myron no gains and and Fresh and fit all these losers. He makes them look alpha and they're beta and fake as fuck, too I mean, it's he makes Rolla Tomasi look like a fucking chat thundercock Who is himself a total a total fucking let's pull that fucking loser up. Let's not forget him for a second this Yeah When I first came into the space and started consuming shit, you know I listened to it and initially because I was angry Yeah, I was like, you know that makes a little bit of sense And then I started and this is what you to touch on your point about how his message has just been Complete horseshit for all these years. There's no growth There's no growth because there's no there's no money in telling guys. Hey get up. That's just so far Recalibrate your fucking brain and get back in the fight engage. It's too easy to go Oh, man, you know live this life that he's not living like y'all these guys prop down of it up to build this fake fucking life All that shit that he had the studio all the shit he was doing jump on the boats taking trips Those dudes funded that shit, you know, I mean that they funded it and now because because you outed him This is what he's doing. He would have never done this if you wouldn't have fucking cut his balls off He would have never put her on that channel. You know what I mean? Like you fucked him up, dude Yeah, I mean I didn't I never had it I for Donovan I never hated him in some ways I still don't really hate him at least not as much as he probably thinks For me, he's like a really feels like a pinata of fraud I can just keep beating him with like a digital stick and funny, you know memes keep coming out and he's He's a loser. He's a bottomless pit of being a loser, so I can just keep making fun of him and to me That's kind of fun. Like why not? He's a good example of a fraud and it's not it's not just him though It's you know, there's a whole network of frauds in the Manisphere and the frauds exist beyond that too. Yeah It's gotten it's gotten a little bit better But it's like it's like the ones that have survived a storm that doubled down on their douchebaggery Yes, you know, they're they're especially role in Rolo. I Accidentally heard some bullshit somebody else had a clip of one of his videos in their video and I accidentally Ingested it and I swear to God, dude. Not really my bad. I don't want to get stricken down in this this crazy time I Swear to something that I want to punch that dude in the fucking face every time I hear him talk shit Men that are way more Alpha than him this I mean because he's not that dude's not ever known a time in his life Where he sees the world through the eyes of men that have actually been in the game, you know I mean, there's no time. I don't give a fuck what stories he tells I've been around dudes in bands and it's not always the dudes All those dudes in the bands ain't getting late I mean they might get some wake pussy from some dudes But if you're a goofball socially awkward dude, you're fucking the fat chick, you know I mean like I've hung around dudes that were in bands in Austin and Seen at first hand, you know, I mean the lead singer and the pretty boy that can play the guitar It may be the drummer and they were they were talented as fuck, but they all were kind of studs You know what I mean? Like they were fuckable dudes Rolo, I've seen his pictures that he posted of his old self. You've always been a kind of you've always Shit and so he's basically went to school and learned some nerd words to to Describe what he saw the real men do you know what I mean? Like it. Oh, there's no hope There's just a socially second ball all these terms that he uses over and over again All of those guys every one of them that uses that as an excuse. They're all the same They're all bitches, dude. They're all I think this is this is I agree and I think that's why it's something I've tried to wrap my head around these past couple years fighting with these guys and Exposing these guys and doing real harm to them by exposing the truth with facts and evidence and stuff and documentaries The reality is the reason they still have any fans at all as they attract losers and fakes and little frauds themselves Now it might be it might be some guy working at Best Buy But basically he's fake as fuck like a fake nice guy, right dress to get in girls pants or whatever baby and you know It's fake nice kind of male feminist bullshit or whatever it is in the case of their other fans It'd be a little bit different there But basically all their fans are fake, too, and they don't care freshman fits the same thing You know fed and shit. I call them now they want I don't think their fans are fake though Anthony I don't think that they're fake. I think that's human nature to gravitate towards Humans go toward the path of least resistance, okay The path of least resistance in the man is fear is fuck that bitch It's all their fault. They're all that way And if you step outside of these guidelines You're a loser and so you get these dudes that have been run through run over by these women and It's it's the path of least resistance is that versus Well, of course she left you because you're fucking loser you you work at Best Buy You don't mean you don't go to the gym She watched the dude slap the shit out of you because his iPod quit working right You know I mean like she was there at your lunch break and this dude slapped the fuck out of you And you you know you walked away Yes, you left. They don't want to hear that. They're like, no, she's a whore. You know, I mean she's a loser So I know I don't now I'm not giving them a pass because they've heard the truth, too They've heard those channels. They're shit. They've heard my child and then they don't make a comment going you're a beta You don't know fresh and fit help me Yeah, so I can I follow what you're saying and I agree to an extent what I was trying to say with them being fake is like a Lot of them they'll see my videos your videos or whatever exposed videos a Lot of them will grasp that they're basically frauds and you'll see the comments too probably I've seen them on my channel Oh, who cares about them? You know the advice the advice works like no, it doesn't matter. They're fake They're fake. They're fake as fuck their frauds. So what I think is that most of the dumbest of the dumb Like yeah, there's probably a lot of those There's a lot of those but I think initially the reason why their numbers continue to stay I mean, especially fresh and fit. There's so many new ones coming in You know, I mean there's a lot of new ones of what they lost a lot of dudes over that initial shit with Alvin preach But some sort of way they keep fucking rebounded. How is that? It's got to be new shit It's got to be new beta males, dude, and there's more than I think there's more than that because Maybe I'm just being hopeful maybe I Think they pray on black man, too I think most of the audience is young black men is what I've seen Like just just you know the kids with they had none of them have dows and stuff So it's like it's kind of like they're playing it. They're praying on the black Manisphere except these kids are not part of the black Manisphere. They don't even know what that is probably You know, so I think it I think they're praying on a whole YouTube demographic of young black men freshman fits specifically I don't think Donovan to some degree Rollo, I don't think the young black guys care about but freshman fit Basically, they see the freshman fit are fake and they don't care because to them it's real It's fake, but it's real It's like well, they're successful of being fake and I want to be fake, too Like them because then girls will like me if I wear this if I get this fake airplane I take a picture in front of I get this fake bling and I buy girls pina coladas and shit You know, I was dumb shit. Anyway, we got Tony That's the same thing To hit to hit further on that though Broaden broaden that and broaden that and look at it in the black community The young the young black male in general. Yeah, they do that with everything. Yeah, look at the rappers and shit, right? These rappers that are gangsters these little these little dudes think that it's cool to be a fucking thug Collin Collin Chicks bruh and shit all the time, you know this ignorant stupid fucking shit They idolize these ignorant ballplayers that are most of them a functional fucking retards. They're just genetic mutants They idolize all of these people and the problem with it is is they don't understand and it sucks, man And I try to say it and I'm not black enough They don't understand the people that are that are guiding their culture are only giving them poison because if you get you can have a black rmbc We're saying a most beautiful love song in the world and nobody's gonna fucking hear it But let Sam Smith or one of the mother little homosexual dudes do it and it's a number one yet non-stop But if if the same black R&B artist comes out and goes fucking give me the sack nigga killer nigga Got me rid of these hoes nigga Then he's been he's on top of the charts and the girls are giving their babies tattoos to match his and it's like Go fucking coaches toxic and so what fresh and fit have done is they've graduated those dummies That maybe think that they're stepping up because they're not looking at the rappers as Idealist now like that's the ideal for me now. They're looking at those guys from Miami and going. That's it It's like no that's the same exact fucking thing. It's the same thing. These are just different nerds without guns Yeah, I mean and they're still they threaten to shoot us over over the shit We will do with them. You know I mean there was dudes all in the comments Then I'll shoot you with this whatever gun they were bragging about like, okay. Yeah In that Let me pull on Tony Bruno here. We got you know rock star, you know, a man of sphere grass roots in the house Tony Bruno Welcome to the red man group. Yeah, thanks for having me, man. I didn't want to miss this Hey, man, good to see you. Good to see you man Couple days Yeah, those you guys they don't know Tony Bruno is a good friend of mine also based in Florida He's very helpful at our events. He calls the 20 on report and he's actually like a speaker liaison So he actually helps manage a lot of the event inner workings behind the scenes Really escorting speakers, you know, even from the airport at the hotel to different conferences all kinds of cool stuff Now the one of the reasons I wanted to bring Tony Bruno on today though Is he is familiar with some of the breaking news that just dropped So Tony I was showing the guys earlier Paul here and then earlier on the show and I opened it But there was breaking bombshell truth bomb news on the manuscript last night It turns out our old buddy Edwin Hopkins aka Donovan sharp mama is actually married secretly to a single mom A woman who's pushing closing on a 50 years old menopausal. This is her I don't know how many years ago. It's looks about seven eight years ago Something like that looks like it's in Orlando, Florida at Disney World and this is her daughter Her name is not Olivia. By the way, that's a lie. Olivia is not even any part of her name Her real name she has a middle name is similar to that, but it's it's not real. That is her daughter She doesn't even have a niece so for years Cynthia here Ashlock Devon and Donovan Sharp have been saying that she has a niece and the mom's a drug addict. None of that's true She does not have a niece Biological or in any way she performed she does have a nephew who's about 20 years old So there's that but there's no nice and that's her daughter. That's her ex-husband And it turns out the ex-husband actually filed for divorce against Cynthia Which as we know in the manosphere is opposite how it usually goes right woman fell for divorce 78% of the time This woman was so nasty and so fucking toxic apparently That this guy divorced Divorced her so Tony I wanted to get your hot take on what do you think about? One of the man's fears toughest critics on post wall single mom's Donovan Sharp Wiping up a single mom in secret and then lying about her for five years, you know Donovan you've met him like me Well, I considered him a friend. I mean, let's let's get real Back in even 2018 first 21 that I attended You know, I used to be a fan of Donovan's content because I think it back then it was helpful and The just the narrative in his con content has changed so much over the years I used to play his stuff on my jobs and I Remember playing it for about a week and electricians and all the different trades were listening to it This was about two years ago And I mentioned this to you that all he talked about was her all of a sudden she just came into the picture and You know, I just kind of ignored it when I don't like somebody I don't I don't want to say I don't like him But when I find their content isn't really helping and I noticed just kind of a shift What I do is I just I just ignore it. That's just me Is this kind of what you see here on this channel like that's pointing this out to Paul She's all over the channel. She took over like a virus. Yeah, and I remember even in 2018 Again, I'm not I don't believe in dick policing. I'm not the dick please the dick police means that I don't care Who somebody dates or who their girlfriend is if they like her that's great But the issue that I have is when somebody is not congruent with their message You know, just ragging on single moms Ragging on everything and anything that has to do with a woman and your message and your life is not congruent With what you're preaching you are fake and you are phony now. It's not my job in the man is fear to to to We'll say call out anybody. That's not what I do. There's certain people I think everybody has their place in this umbrella, you know, I'll do that. No worry I'll consider you one of the assassins of the man is fear. I'll consider Paul part of the assassin squad MD Smash TV part of the assassins of the man is fear And again, everybody has their place But what I like to do is I like to I like to see somebody that's just congruent with their lifestyle If you're preaching something you're and you're helping guys Now I do think that even through all this mess Donovan has helped guys Maybe bring guys out of a slump bring guys out of a just out of a bad situation, but I think that There's certain content creators that have a net negative and I believe he's one of them I look for net positive. I might not like you but net positive is important Okay, there's a lot of content creators like Steve Williams a lot of guys don't like him But I do believe Steve has a net positive in his message a lot of guys don't like alpha male strategies I love him and he's a friend of mine good dude great net positive great delivery on content when it comes to women relationships, so Congruency is most important to me, you know again dick policing is a lot of things that guys do in the man is fear if anybody Doesn't know what that is. It's when they're basically you're saying something about somebody's girl and again I don't care who you date But if you're promoting something be congruent if you're a dating coach I Expect your woman to be that nine or that ten. I mean I just do I mean you look at guys Is this a is this a nine Tony? Hard nine They tried to own that office her sister I believe at one point. Oh, that's her that ain't her sister Yeah, so but it is what it is man, so You know, I don't again. I don't care who somebody dates. I really don't I don't know they lie until they lie about it Then it's a problem, right? Yeah, I mean, you know, there's a lot of there's a lot of talk about what's called looks matching and I'll have to say that's his looks match. I mean You know he's a pretty he's a pretty rough fat guy He's got a big beer belly going on he looks like a mr. Potato had I realized on his pictures recently He has like his skinny arms and his big belly and he had like a blue He had a blue shirt on or blue hat Mike. That's do look like mr. Potato had You know, I understand I mean, you know a lot of people don't know and if I know you've made this public that When Donovan was originally gonna do is his event you were gonna be the one that was gonna film it Oh, yeah, and I have the text I have the text messages all of a sudden there came an attack I talked to a few people about this well-known guys that called me and said, okay Why did Donovan attack and we know why he attacked because at the top of that pyramid is who rollo? And when whether it's Ryan stone and all these guys all their material is underneath the rollo sphere Okay, and what happens is if you if you go against Rollo what what happens is is now your content will not be congruent with with the rational male or you know So and we know, you know a male is is you know, there's a difference between a male and a man We know that okay a male is just how you are but a man is different So but if you if you get if you do anything different or go anywhere off that rollo sphere Okay, that's that's when you're shunned by the community and that's where all your income comes from So what happened was I think in that situation. I'm sure the the kingpin told them, you know I've been attacked by Anthony. So you need to go ahead and back at him and we know that's what happened It was just plain and simple I think it was probably rollo and or it was miss piggy. It was his single mother wife Who goaded him into attacking me for drama marketing? So I wouldn't be surprised if she if they both had a hand in it or if she was even leading the charge too I mean rollo is very plausible too though for sure. I mean even back in 2018 I remember the first 21 that I went to and you know, I was excited about seeing donovan meeting cooper and rollo And a lot of these guys I remember cooper even telling me, okay Like we were sitting there chatting one afternoon and even richard cooper said you got to be kidding me, right? This is his his nine that he talked about And now since here and we get to see her and again, I don't care who you date I don't but if you're gonna tell me somebody something at least please give me the proof You know at least produce what you're what you're preaching. That's all I'm trying to pull up a picture of rich cooper right now. Where the fuck is that? I got it somewhere around here Here it is a really good point tony because There's so many people in this space that want to I guess dick watch is the perfect term and it's because Out of one side of their mouth they say all of these instagram models They got dudes their dms or whores whoo whoo all this shit. Oh, you know, they sell this narrative that Every everybody's fucked up And then they go back on the other side and then they do something drastically different, but the reality is truthfully Really beautiful women like women that are on the scale where you were everyone wants to fuck them Most of the time from my experience those women are so mentally fucked up Either it's because of their entitlement or just because they're just because they've been just Just dogged by jads and brads and tyrones their whole life They're mentally fucked up and we look through and or use the women who are, you know She can fix up. Well, but she doesn't meet that that hot girl standard well If you marry one of those instagram chicks I think you're just as fucking an idiot as you marry a single mom with three kids Like what do you think's going to come out of that? You know, I'm not saying never never ever would that happen But you got to look at what kind of animals those are and a lot of time what you're going to find the woman that The the person that you're going to want to spend your life with The way that they look is going to change. It doesn't matter what you want If they get old and then start cutting their face up and putting shit in their face They're gonna age man, and so are you and so you can follow on that Pathetic scale where you look like you're fucking your granddaughter Or you can find someone that like we were talking about the other night where you actually care about what that person thinks And how they feel about you because that's rare That's really rare. Now if you if you've got a codependent Relationship and you're fuck But if you're a man and you're looking for looks looks looks looks You're scaling yourself down just like a woman who's mediocre at best looking for that rich dude It's it's it's more than just how she looks now. She can't fucking look like that I'm just saying for that to me would never be acceptable But like tony said it's not it's not Our business what she looks like except for the fact that he sold He sold us a Lamborghini and it's an old 1969 slug bug that backfires like that's some bullshit, bro You told me your car was bad and fast and I was like, this is a piece of shit That's the fucked up part. I mean, you know, I live in off of that. That's really fucked up You're there's some stuff that you know, I've talked with anthony about and I think I've mentioned this on my channel before But you know, we've all talked about and we've heard that And you know, this might be a bomb right now to a lot of people But you know, we've said oh donovan denied getting married Well, I will go to a court of law and a lie detector and tell everyone right now watching that my brother George Bruno told me that donovan called him and asked him if he would marry him and her Period that is a woman a woman brother. That is a fact So I'm tired of people saying oh or donovan saying again, I don't watch his content It's kind of for me. I watched somebody throws me a clip or something and I watch it I don't I don't really watch hardly any content. I watched 21 studios I watched the war room some of my friends, but you know, I don't have time to watch it I'll watch a clip of something But what I just told you is a fact and I would like I said, I would go to a court of law You can put me on a lie detector. I don't care. That is a fact So what does that tell me that tells me that he married her period? Yep By the way, George Bruno your brother told me the exact same thing to my face in poland Right when they were getting married. That's why George didn't do it I had to fly into poland speak at 21 convention They even had a honeymoon by the way, not only that they had this wedding They had a honeymoon in hawaii and early late july early august 2019 That's why if you look closely all my memes are actually pretty deep If you look closely this meme the actual date is july 2019 Because that's when they actually had the secret private wedding thing going on So a lot of my memes have little easter eggs like that in them and that's that's it pisses them off Because the average person is not going to catch that but they catch it They fucking pisses them off now whether or not they did get married The fact is that that was told to me and again, I don't care. I am not donovan's dick police I'm just not not anybody's dick police. I don't care who you date, but I just believe in congruency You know somebody had said to me here. Well, everybody on youtube is an actor. Well, I can tell you I'm not an actor Okay, I know paul's not an actor. I know you're not an actor anthony. So no You know when somebody said that to me and I'm not going to mention the name of the person But people are actors. So it really doesn't matter what they say. No if you're an actor say you're an actor Yes, if you're just a fucking character, see that's what I got in respect about coach g a Coach gray Adams, you know, I don't agree with everything he says, but he's very clear I'm I'm here to entertain you and educate you. So There's a lot of his own personal, you know, anecdotal shit in there with what he feels to be the truth I I like that. I think what they've done to him is actually fucked up. You know what I mean? I don't like some of the shitty tales dudes, but he's one of the good guys to me. He's Yeah, he tells you this is I'm putting on a show, you know what I mean? And he does with all the sound effects and shit. That's like a old Old silent movie type shit. Well, they just went like, you know, I get it. That's the show That's a character that he's basically a news anchor anchor for the man of spear and that's cool But when you go on Like like we found out that he was still secretly married to the woman he dogs out That would instantly nullify every fucking thing he says because he's built his platform encouraging men This is the better way. This is the thing I don't understand about Donovan Okay You went through all the shit that brought you to the space the hypergamy All of that stuff you did that you built a good following Then you found a chunky girl that made you feel special because she licked the back of your ball sack Whatever it is that she did turn him out She blowballs be honest be honest about it. Say, hey, you know what guys? It's not all about looks sometimes Sometimes a woman can treat you so well that you do you see beauty where no one else can and Where no one else can Oh god He would have just done that then he could be a fucking then he could be a dating How to get the girl coach and then start selling that rift, you know what I mean? Like he's not a very smart businessman at all. I actually want to make a comment Run with it motherfucker. I want to make a comment. It could run with it exactly So I think you know Donovan you're probably watching this and now him and his wife stock everything I do I'll drop a meme about how fat his wife is within three hours. They're posting how she's not fat on his instagram I mean, they're super reactionary. They track everything They go photo to photo or whatever the fuck that fat girl Now but I'll say this like because it reminds me of what you were just talking about here Donovan, you know Edwin, I know you're watching you need to retire from being this fake alpha male Dating coach red pill whatever the fuck, right? That's all done dude. You're you're absolute fraud You've been a fraud the whole fucking time. You've embarrassed yourself You've embarrassed the whole manusphere community. You've embarrassed fucking everybody Everything you do is a fucking tornado of shit. It's a disaster a hurricane of of just bullshit at this point But what donovan should do what you should do Edwin is drop out of all this retire Closed up shop admit defeat admit your fucking complete liar and go into stand-up comedy I have never seen anyone roast themselves as good as donovan sharp does He is legit. He talks about his wife fucking 500 dicks and all this fucking bullshit Like he's great. He's kind of funny in a genuine way When in a bombastic way and he needs to focus on that He probably has a future in that if he really put his nose to the grindstone with it He has no future in the manusphere, you know I I I'm holding myself accountable. Okay, that's a big thing that people don't do in the manusphere I'm holding myself accountable for for believing in him years ago Okay, and a lot of guys who won't what happens is they just don't want to believe that this is true The best way you can hold yourself accountable is by holding the other man accountable first In your mind and think about what they taught you and think about their congruency in their life Okay, that will give you clarity in what you believe in right there. Why am I following this guy? He's been lying to me the whole time about his life. He's not an actor. This is real life Yeah, if you hold somebody self somebody else accountable one of your content creators first Ask them the hard questions. What I say is ask them the hard questions and see if you get blocked in the comments Try that one time And get any of these questions you'll get blocked or that's it, you know Anger is the weather van truth and when they when they freak out like that instantly it's because you have the nail on the head I can only imagine since I put this out these videos and other videos, but These photos last night that synthia divan sharp and don have been sharp are flipping the fuck out I mean, I've already heard reports of that synthia divan is super abusive Uh bipolar uh diagnosed bipolar disorder probably bpd. She looks like a typical bpd amber herd jada smith, you know kind of kind of actor kind of character Uh, but just totally toxic abusive nasty woman very nasty nasty on the outside nasty on the inside It's kind of how that goes most of the time But I imagine right now that they're screaming at each other freaking out And trying to plan a counter attack, but there's nothing to do He wifed up a single mom lied about her age by seven years and took and shaved 50 pounds off her weight for the past five years This woman is the epitome of what donovan has railed against for years. He's a complete fraud It's even worse than I thought tony credit do or credits do you were the one guy? I think you and socrates Who theorized that she was not an aunt and that wasn't her niece? That was her daughter and we all kind of talked about that But we had no, you know evidence of it until now And it's all fucking that's the whole fucking truth the whole fucking time there. She doesn't even have a niece That's how fucking bad it is. I should have known better. Everything this guy says is a lie, right pathological liar compulsive liar But credit to you men for kind of calling that out and seeing predicting the future That was a while ago. That was why Oh, yeah, tony i'm gonna call i'm gonna call you tony stradamus like no stradamus You know another thing I want to bring up too is the guys if it's you know, I've heard this too that Oh, the best speakers were stolen from 21. No, I disagree the worst speakers were stolen from 21 That really nobody gave a shit about I mean, that's just the way it is Yeah, it's a woman. Yeah, I mean that's just a fault You know It didn't it didn't really put a hitch in the get along for 21 at all He really picked the bottom of the fucking barrel is what it is. I mean, you know, you know, you gotta, you know No offense to I think it's sterling cooper But you know, you got a guy who sells pictures of his asshole on only fans to dudes I mean, give me a fucking break. Well, yeah, I mean that's just that's just we have it on video We have the screenshots. His only dance page is so online I'm not saying the guy is is is homosexual. I think I I'm not saying that but to me that's kind of It's kind of creepy. It's that's really that's really gay It's going on right now. I think the black man spear recently had some Some controversy with from somebody that's not gay doing some gay shit This is the this is the way I look at it, dude You can't suck a little bit of dick. You can't do a little bit of gay shit You know I'm saying like that's not the way I was raised If you let a dude touch your dick or you do some gay shit and you go, man, I was just because of the money You're a faggot. You're homo. Well, like you're gay, bro You might you can you can you can encourage all your friends to say you're not and you might not be a homosexual But you definitely gay and you're definitely a faggot. That's just the truth, man, because I could I will I had friends that did that that male stripper shit when I was a kid I was I was caught up in the Reagan era of Shit that was going on I had dudes that were making a lot of money stripping for fat chicks and they did They did gay shit Well, they were acquaintances They weren't like my buddies because the moment I found out that they were going to these clubs and it was gay night And they didn't leave I'm like when there ain't enough money in the motherfucking world to make me Do gate to do anything in front of a woman in front of a fucking dude that might be thinking about doing What a woman might want to do to me, you know what I mean? I'm trying to keep this As proper as possible, but they all this justification is shit No, man, if you do gay shit, you might be fucking gay And I say he's gay, but he did some gay shit The old the old saying is you can build a hundred bridges and nobody calls you a bridge builder But you can suck one dick and now you're a cop Now I want to bring up another important point here Something that's I posted on my Twitter about a week ago something like that So one of the main reasons that we've been talking about these frauds who lie to their audiences deceive them You know, I'm really serious shit. It's probably even criminal in some cases, right? Go false advertising You know wire fraud all kinds of shit these people have done But anyway, one of the things that Donovan has been suffering. I think he's going to go bankrupt soon That's why he keeps talking about bankruptcy and Bleeding money and all this stuff on his channel. I mean his wife's going to steal it. Obviously. That's what piggy's do miss piggy But since I exposed him about 14 months ago So this is a 12 month graph one year And you see a 44.7 drop in patrons And even the money per patron on top of that's gone down by a 35 percent This is a massive loss of money. This is like Donovan's main source of income a little bit over a year ago And it's hard to do on the thing because it only has like these options at the top But if you extend it to 14 months out Well, my documentary first dropped about the truth about Donovan sharp. It's on my channel all my channels And it came out in march 2021 He's had like a 57 58 drop in his patron money I mean these are his these were his best paying customers. He had over 1100 people following him It's down to 531 and dropping Every week it goes down bit by bit So if you guys wonder why these people attack me and lie about me and try to deny all this all this stuff You know his wife being old and she's not old and she is old. She's fat. She's not fat All this rampant bullshit. It's because it's how they con you. It's the reason fresh and fit You know fed and shit. It's the reason they lie to you. They lie to you to get more money out of you That's the bottom line, you know, rollo is a little more sadistic He hates men he hates masculinity and he wants to steal money from you. He's a blood second parasite vampire But these other guys are not usually like that. That's rollo is kind of special like that The rich poopers and the donovan shark the conovan and the the fed and shit all these guys They lie to you to get more money out of you or to get money out of you in the first place That's the reason they do it They're stealing money from you by lying to you and defrauding you and when they get exposed This is what happens You said these people say oh fred and shit. Don't talk about you. Do you know why they don't talk about me? Because the more they talk about me the more this will happen to them. They'll lose people just like donovan That's the reason they're scared of shitless of me Myron apparently admitted that to donovan sharp a week ago in Miami, florida He dropped out at the last second of speaking at donovan's shithole Disaster event of 20 fucking people and a swamp ass. Miami motel. It looked like it was held in the fucking broom closet He dropped out of that event and cited that he was afraid of me and what I would do to him in his business How much of a bitch do you have to be to be a current or former or whatever federal agent? For the united states government and you're afraid of some redneck in orlando You're terrified that you're dropping out speaking events. Are you kidding me? I think that was just an excuse I just think he didn't probably part of a broom closet Convention, but even to use that as an excuse is pathetic. Hey, my excuse is i'm a bitch That's why i'm not gonna go holy fucking shit. These people are bitches, man 100 percent 100 percent Well, if he was honest with it, he would have just told donovan, you know what man Well, he'd have to have to he'd have to actually have a change of mind and heart Because it would be cool if he if he took this platform like That's another good one I Love Dave Chappelle man. I grew up watching a lot of Dave Chappelle Yeah, there's all of these guys that are It's funny because all of these dudes that are In the in the white hemisphere if you if you're gonna put them in a category They're all rolo's boys All of the ones that are the biggest toxic cunts are all rolo's boys. Yeah, and they'll be uh, all of those dudes the pito All of those weirdos mld Do you mean this guy who stalks children jonathan hogwood who's a is a documented child stalker? How is somebody not beating the brakes off of that dude? I don't know About man motherfucker. I'll be in Miami in whatever it's like whoever he was talking to should have changed the way he looks, man Yeah, these dudes get way too comfortable online. They like i've i've heard rolo talking, you know Passive aggressively about The crew on 21 basically everybody associated with you And it's it's just this little girl talk And these dudes would never fix their face to say Any shit like that to your face? I mean Let's let's get real. I mean come on guys, you know I don't like to judge man by his looks, but let's just can't you just look at rolo Can't you just look at these guys and see how creepy it is? I mean, yeah, just I mean I've talked to I have friends in law enforcement I've shown some of these child stalking images of jonathan hogwood who's a former resident overland Oh, his mom lives about five ten minutes from me Me visits here sometimes, you know, whatever The he they the guys I've talked to currently in law enforcement believe that these are precursors to child molestation This is actually someone who's in the process of becoming a pedophile and this is mld Jonathan hogwood jonathan pig what I call him Who hangs out all the time with donovan sharp rolo tamasi? All these fucking losers troi francis soy francis or boy francis will call him I mean these people are sick in the fucking head. I mean Stalking children these guys. I mean the guys like troi troi francis again I don't watch his content people send me clips But I mean him and this guy toss they Literally admitted that they slept with lady boys and didn't know it till the day after. How do you not know this? I mean jesus I mean literally told people that And yeah on video follow them I mean How is that possible? It's how broken our culture is these wounded lost boys are they're like zombies, man. They're like legit sheep My wang of the man is fear is much more men who are like more independent minded more alpha They want to be more alpha. They don't want to be fucking cheap They don't want to be like You know lied to and defrauded on a daily basis, but there's a lot of guys who are just broken as fuck The germ peterson losers are the same way. They're very similar The guys have fought this guy A weak injured man that reaches out for help Okay That right there is a big deal because even when I talked to coach greg adams here Last year and did an interview with him The hardest thing for a man to do is to reach out for help. It really is But what I've noticed is is a lot of these guys if not, you know, all of them, but most of them They just prey on that weakness They're trying to sell you a golden ticket rather than say improve yourself And um like I talked about a heart punch a heart punch is some guys can't handle a heart punch a heart punch is when You can smack somebody you can tell me something if I had some issues in my life You can tell me wake the fuck up shake me some guys can't handle that The reason they can't handle that because they had a weak father or no Nobody to shake them out of it. So I think a lot of times the weak men are the easiest prey But you're not going to get a golden ticket. It's not going to happen You have to work you have to improve yourself whether it's your body your mindset Has to be improved. No one is going to save you. It doesn't matter how many dollars you throw at somebody They're not going to save you. That's just the way it is So a weak injured man is the easiest prey and they've they figured out the formula to to to suck these guys in They've perfected that formula What people need to do is take a step back and look and ask the hard questions If you ask somebody a hard question I will say it again in their comments in their chat and they block you you got your answer move on Yep A woman brother a woman Yeah, they are it's it's easy to pray and it's sad, but there's got there's some responsibility to men I mean, you know, they are wounded men and it is sick when they get preyed on but it's ultimately like you said Their responsibility to save themselves to change their own life and to save their own life No one can save you unless they're like literally an er doctor a paramedic a firefighter A cop and you're about to be fucking killed like if someone shan smith, you know God bless him said this on the red man group at 21 summit last year That all this crap in the man is here about saving lives is super toxic and super fake and super codependent I mean i'm paraphrasing is what he said, but basically if you're if someone is not, uh, an emt Emergency room doctor or whatever they're not saving your life. It's all fucking scam. What they're doing is is Fostering and nurturing your own shitty ideas and beliefs And codependency they want you hooked on them. That's what all these frauds want They want you stuck in a loop of this trauma loop of being You know beta and weak and sucking shit with women and then want you to stay that way So that you keep hooked on the next blog post or the next video or the next patreon or whatever To keep stealing money out of you until you get burned out and you leave the manisphere Six months later a year later two years later and you're like fuck the manisphere The manisphere didn't do that the frauds do that The grassroots is a healthy wing of the manisphere men like myself and like you tony like you paul Who actually care about this shit and the money stuff either doesn't exist or you don't really give a fuck I'm kind of a sociopath for the truth. So even though this is my career and my job I've always been in favor of the truth and won't fight for it And that's why no one does any kind of you know, there's nothing to expose about me. I'm like you paul I fucking say what I mean. I do. I live my life congruently. I am who the fuck I am On the internet. It's so bombastic a lot of people don't even they can't even wrap their head around it But when they meet me it tends to like work itself out they figure out pretty quickly what's going on, but Yeah I'll give an example. I won't say his name, but you know, we were all here for a beach day Last year. I think it was and one of the guys we know really know said, you know He was kind of nervous about like hanging out with you in this situation He he he has seen you at 21. You're very intense. You're very focused You know, you're a different person But when you come into the real world He had told me he's like wow, anthony's just like chill and Like like like a normal dude. I said, yeah, man. I said but when he's at 21, he's laser focused He's into what he's doing. So when you meet somebody in the real world Now a lot of these guys I've met in the real world And when I've had that spidey sense in the back of my mind tell me something Sometimes you got to follow that if it's if it doesn't feel right. It usually isn't Yeah a woman brother a woman I wanted to move topics I love I love him. It's so stupid Hey, it's stupid. It just doesn't even sound right Yep So I wanted to move off a little bit to uh more current events topics that I think are related to the So one of the big ones obviously is the recent shooting in texas not too far from you paul I've heard you on tony shows say they actually used to Used to you know have football games against the high school town arrival I know I know the feeling man. We had tons of that two hours growing up It was rival as we fucking hated and you get another hour away and you go fuck with them And then you'd win or they'd fucking kick your ass like whatever Those are still their mascot that gets your field on fire a good old country boy shit Yeah So talk to me about you know, this is a 21 people I think are dead 19 little kids two teachers whatever But it was an 18 year old fucked up young kid Yeah, uh that you know Yeah, I don't think you had anything to do with the manuscript that I've heard of which could But he seems like But this but he's a troubled. He was obviously a troubled young man assuming, you know absent government mk ultra shit But uh, this is a fucked up kid. What was your take initial reaction to what happened? And how do you think it relates to masculinity today? Oh, that's loaded initially Because they always filter shit through The media bullshit filter I heard about it awaited and You know, I soaked it up at first and my initial reaction is the same as it is now That dude is a coward. He was a coward what he did was cowardice. I mean all of that those that all of those things go without saying but There were there there's a multiple layers on that man because now that more and more facts are coming out It turns out that this dude was allowed to go pretty much weapons free Until the guy jumped out of the barber chair and you know took action When I when I heard that part of it, man It really that solidified my my view that This whole event those children a lot of those children losing their lives Was a direct result AOC finally said something correct, but the dumb bitch didn't say it the correct way This was an example of toxic masculinity. This was an example Of the patriarchy, but it's an example of toxic masculinity the way that feminist feminism has created it And it's a result of the patriarchy submitting ownership A head ship to the matriarchy because this kid was part of a single parent household and From reports he grew up fighting with his mother. So the single parent again was a mother It was in ill-equipped to raise a boy He was wearing eyeliner. Apparently he was part of the fruit cake community He was getting bullied all of these things all of this shit. You can you can point to You can point outwardly all you want, but the the biggest Yeah, same difference. You can't suck a little bit of dick same deal He this dude You know, he was a coward by himself But the law enforcement dudes I was watching Brandon Tatum Licked for these cops because he was a cop and he wants to he wanted to make everybody stupid because They thought the cops that's the man. I don't give a fuck about your your roe I don't give a shit about any of that once shots were fired Those men fuck the cops The man in those uniforms should have organized and went in there and eliminated that threat They didn't go in there because they were scared because they might get shot because somebody told them to stand down At a certain point in time you have to break you have to break chain of command You have to you have to fucking disobey orders when the orders are wrong A warrior disobeys fucking orders those dudes should have went in there and did what that guy did Everyone involved on there were fucking cowards everyone a shooter the cops The only people who had balls were the moms that were trying to run in there and get their fucking kids And the dude who got out of the barber chair if that's not a complete lie And i'm thinking it's probably not because the dude got his melon took That dude was a hero Those women that were trying to run in to get their kids were fucking heroes those cops were cowards But in the same breath you have to you have to ask yourself What did they think was going to happen the politicians everyone politicizing everything divisive Rhetoric at every turn you got people telling everybody to hate everybody What did they think was going to happen this boy grew up his whole life being told boys weren't shit girls rule You know what I mean all of this bullshit Toxic masculinity does exist, but it's not the way these pink haired bitches say it is It's the masculinity that we see in boys today if we dare call it that It's it's vaginal masculinity that dude that went in there with those guns was a bitch Those cops that stood outside the the door and waited were bitches. Fuck your instructions. Fuck all that They acted like it was a hostage situation had that dude not shot one bullet Then that would have made sense But the moment he discharged that weapon after he barricaded himself He was killing kids and those motherfuckers should have engaged and anyone who says otherwise They can lick my balls because you're a fucking coward Dude, I don't even have a child if that shit happened up at my school I would grab my shit. I would drive up there I would find out who was in command and I would ask him can I fucking help I'll be the head of the spear if somebody's in there killing kids. Let's get them Fuck all this. Oh, we don't fuck that. They've already started killing time to go and the fact that they didn't They were all pussies. What what's weird to agree 100 a woman Not to make life a situation In my understanding at least in florida most counties if in all the counties, they're Explicit instructions and that's why the what the shooting a couple years ago down in south or southeast florida Uh, there are instructions once there's an active shooter is to engage immediately There is no they're supposed to be zero hesitation the minute if he's now if he hasn't fired a gun that's different Now you if it's a situation, right? A situation. No, they should engage immediately kill them this neutralize them as fast as they can kill them Yeah, that's the rule when you don't have a plan run toward the gunfire and kill everything holding a fucking weapon That's that's what you do Here's what here's a couple things that are interesting though and maybe tony can chime in too Number one this 18 year old kid living with his grandma or something Uh, he had access to about six or seven thousand dollars with a weaponry Allegedly, he also had an f-250 pickup truck. He had access to that was his or something So where did all this fucking where all his money come from? I think he was unemployed. I don't know. I think he was unemployed. He's an 18 year old kid I mean, how much fucking money can he have So where did all that money come from number two though? Here's another thing i've been thinking about and this is something we can talk about All these, you know these woke people and the feminists and the libtards and whatever, right? They're always like, oh if there was ever a civil war in america all you rednecks would just die Okay, here's what just happened some 18 year old kid Apparently for whatever now it's stupid how it happened But it took over 40 minutes for an entire fucking police force to take down a kid an 18 year old kid with one fucking gun Are you kidding me? Now there's cowardice and this and that but that that's the reality of what just happened You had an entire fucking police force Fully aware that there's some fucking crazy 18 year old fucking teenager Shooting fucking murdering fucking children and it took them almost an hour to stop him Almost a fucking hour and these people think that the government is like has unlimited power And it would just fucking kill everyone in some conflict these people are fucking delusional And so it just kind of illustrates to me how stupid these people are That We couldn't fucking defeat dudes with dresses and sandals in the desert Fuck that shit man All those people with those people those would be the ones that get on the bus and go to the we are here to help you gaps Yeah damn Tony have any thoughts on what happened with the shooting and uh kind of its relation to Like what I just talked about with like any potential american conflict and These people can't even take down an 18 year old kid with one gun or two whatever a two guns or something I think that my first thought would be that it's in texas and texas to me is like the most based one of the most based states so When the information started coming out I was a little bit shocked because when I think of texas I think of just just bad asses. I mean to me it's just texas is just badass But again as the information came out. I was a little bit shocked that people People didn't act quick enough. Okay, and I think what that it it all it all goes to politics Okay, and chain of command and I'll agree what paul said sometimes you just got to say fuck it Now Would it have changed maybe if if a lot of those cops if their kids were in that school There were some one of them had a kid die apparently They had kids in that school, man One of the cops there on the force anyway his kid died Well, I don't I don't have kids, but if it was my mom my dad or my brothers inside an area I'm going in just that simple. Yeah, you're not gonna stop me Because you just you stop It is second But yeah, it also back to the toxic masculinity thing though like The only toxic masculinity seems to come from the children single mother's race Now where where was the dad whatever and a lot of cases the mom runs him off I mean, that's the reality of it or the mom in the first place was fucking deadbeat losers, right? It's like you you fuck this guy with 25 tattoos and three baby mamas And then you're gonna turn around and act surprised when he runs off and doesn't give a fuck about you and the kid Oh, no fucking shit, right So I it's It's sick the way the family is falling apart in this country It's sick the way that single mothers are praised to these heroes and a lot of times they're the worst woman It's like donovan sharp's wife Nasty, you know, it looks like a drug addict and some of her photos the ones that is pulled up yesterday I mean, look at this photo a different to pick on this one one again. Look at this She looks like a coke head or a meth head or something. Look at this I mean, this is like the average single mom in america. This is a disaster And they raise they raise these shooters She what she looks very gooey like their bellies look like if you touched it it'd be There's so many words that have been stolen. Okay when I say stolen I mean you look at something simple like the rainbow from the bible even Okay, that the rainbow was stolen by a certain community Though even the word gay was stolen. Okay There's so many words that are stolen toxic is another word that's been stolen Okay toxic I don't like that word. I think it's overused right now. Oh, he's toxic. She's toxic I hate that word. I absolutely hate that word Toxic masculinity is just masculinity. There's no such thing as toxic masculinity Yeah, you know the reason why I use that term is because they use it to Classify what traditional masculinity was Now what traditional mass self sustainability that that was masculinity based on the dsm for All masculine masculinity used to be healthy You know a man being able to be self sufficient not emotional all that was good And then when they decided to change the alphabet ship to stop being a mental disorder Then being a masculine male became one that they put that that moniker on it Because now for a man to have those traits is negative. That's for the boss bitches That's for the independent strong women to run around and talk all the shit and start beating on their chest act like men That's that's where the toxicity comes in for me The toxic part is when you poison masculinity and that kid that ran in there He's a male, but he's not a man being a male is a matter of birth Being a man is a matter of choice and action That dude was a bitch. He's still a male. He's not masculine What he is is he's a bastardization of what masculinity is He's the poisonous version of what masculinity is like the women strong boss bitches That's toxic masculinity because they're not supposed to have that shit Now me you anthony. We're just men. We're just masculine men There's no toxicity unless we start poisoning people. That's what toxic is poison And so when you've got a dudes Dynamon shark To me that that is that because what they're doing nothing that he's doing is masculine None of the negative shit is masculine. That is Opportunistic feminine bullshit all of that line of manipulation to get what you want You expect that from certain women men if you do that Do it with honor and that means truth. You know what I mean? He's not doing that women I I don't say they're all fucked up, but I expect them to have to Manipulate some shit. I accept this is this is a good point I closed my documentary about donovan sharp three hour documentary at the very end if you listen I talk about masculinity specifically in the way jack donovan articulates it in virtues, but it includes strength honor courage and competence basically And donovan fucks us up on the honor party has no honor What don't you're right that what donovan does all the frauds, but donovan is a really good example There's no honor in it and in that sense It's dishonorable and unmanly and that's the most one of the most aggravating elements of it that it's It's effeminate and I've called him an effeminate beta male a bunch of times over He was also raised by a single mom just like this in this texas school shooter right this fucking crazy kid And donovan is not a school shooter, but he's all fucked up in a very similar way He's big and he's a big and fat mama's boy who married his fucking mother His own mother who I think he's talked about openly. Maybe tony can confirm that is also toxic And you know just basically raised she raised this fat fuck loser Who's a liar and a manipulator and dishonorable? There's even evidence that's come out in court documents Donovan was convicted apparently of defrauding his own father So he does have some relationship with them the financial identity theft that donovan got arrested for and convicted That was against his own father edwin alexander hopkins senior I thought it was against maybe some random person. He was trying to you know, still checks from or something No, it was his own dad. He opened up apartments apparently this is this whole channel that dug into his criminal history finally And it's it's just sick. It's fucking sick and it's effeminate on top of that. It's not just sick in general It's a effeminate beta male fucking conduct and that's what most single mothers raise You get these this broken wounded fucking fat mama's boys who marry their miss piggy single He even married a single mom just like his own mother I mean the shit it's out of a fucking textbook Most of these guys are not men. Okay a man a man. We know what a man is. Okay, most of these guys are males hence the national male A male that book would have better would have been better titled as the rational man Because a male is just an immature man. Okay, there's quite a difference Right there. So what so the the male is just is just who we were born as a man is different than a male so very simply a A male is an immature man in my opinion Fucking hate these frauds man. Yeah, they're all effeminate if you notice that about all of them, none of them are masculine They're all wispy. They're all fat. They're all married to single moms Uh, they're angry. They're really angry and a really effeminate kind of like little boy kind of way Myron would be a really good example that he's like one of the most one of the most angry dudes I've seen He's volatile little girl. He's butter about women and you can feel that even if some of his fans will see it Be because the the frog one the fresh one. He's not as angry though I mean he's just more incompetent and like socially retarded Myron there's like a venom he has towards women and it's super unhealthy and it's super fucking legit poisonous And these guys don't want to hear it, but that's the truth I wonder if that's because he's in the closet You know sugar sugar in the tank Yeah, I think he has a lot of sugar in his tank and he's just like man. I really don't want to I don't want to out myself because I'm making all this money. I got these dudes propping me up And as a gay man as a gay man, he'd probably be nothing You know what I mean? Like those those gay dudes those motherfuckers are chiseled up and shit Be entered into the gay market. He'd probably be worse off The black pill community calls that suss soldiers. Yeah. Yeah, I saw a hold the truth. The hostage was talking about that But that's what That's the the animus that he has towards women. That's what it kind of seems like Why are you so angry bro? Why are you yelling at these women like a little boy? You know what I mean? Like that's very I knew a dude. I knew a dude when I was in high school He was that way and he you know, he was super alpha. He tried to hang out with this He was super But he beat the shit out of his girlfriend. I mean he he hated her and she did nothing but Was nice to him and it turned out a couple years later We found out he was gay as he could be and I'm thinking that's that had to be why He was doing that to that girl She was she was like a physical representation of him selling out And every time she would make him mad, he would just slap the shit out of her and we'd have to like, whoa, man What the fuck's wrong with you? We thought it was just his home life Now he was fighting that demon because he thought, you know, we'd make fun of him We probably would have, you know, not in a not in the mean way. We're just like, yeah, that's kind of funny, dude You know, he's still a cool dude. He's just Like weird shit, but he used to be so fucking angry at girls. We didn't know why So watching Myron, I look at that. I'm like, this dude reminds me of Brian a lot He's just He was just real puffy. Like I thought you were One of these based Staying in my frame dudes like what frame is that? Like a aimery homo So I want to move off to a final topic in a minute, but first What is your obviously I agree that a lot of the it's my view anyway, and I think you guys are on the same page But a lot of this the school shooting shit, whatever the mass shooter It's from a broken culture that's deeply fucked up Even fall of Rome level fucked up Foglessness to follow the family feminism the matriarchy The collapse and the destruction of the patriarchy. There's a whole Nest of these issues that are not going to get fixed overnight But in terms of school shootings and these fucked up kids that shoot up schools and shit, right? What in your view is the solution to that? Is it arming teachers? Is it having uh more police officers or veterans or something at every school? Uh, what are your thoughts on that? Should kids bring guns to school again? Like they did back in the day, you know I was in high school. We if somebody would try to one up in there Get a fuck that dude because that was gun racks with guns in them when I was in high school Every truck had a a long gun and I'm talking about a 300 win mag or one here man I always had it. I had a gun rack with two guns on it when I drove around Yeah, there was the you had like a 300 win mag and a shotgun. Yeah, but here's what I think man very It's very simple. We've got a bunch of retired veterans I I know I've got a I know a bunch of them personally We've got a bunch of veterans a bunch of special force operatives That are bored out of their fucking minds having to do mundane jobs all you need all you need bro is One two three four five six seven dudes maximum You put you put a dude on each flank of your building Rotating put a fucking sniper on top of the building put a dude in control and one walking through the halls Those dudes those dudes by themselves you give them proper comes Those motherfuckers will they will see that shit coming and you could do it And here's the kicker a lot of them would do it because they're bored You wouldn't even have to pay them That's simple problem solved I'll add to that real quick. All they have to do is do the same security that anthony does at 21 and we're good Plain and simple Yeah, 21 summits a real event here. We have Oh, yeah At 21 summit I encourage all the speakers to carry a firearm all the attendees are welcome to carry a firearm I hire licensed security. I hire off-duty But they're in uniform police officers Sheriff's deputies city police the whole fucking thing. I hire both fucking departments the sheriffs and the city police So yeah, it's funny because I see these other shithole manager events that they go virtual Or they're held in a fucking broom closet And it's just it's so pathetic Like dude what I do is like first-class world-class Ultra professional four five-man security team 15 man video team 12 volunteers Event staff speaker 30 fucking speakers like my shit is fucking dope I'm really proud of it and I've worked hard at it for 16 fucking years to master. I learned how to do that But not to not brag too much But yeah, if we had the same security at schools that I do at my conferences, there would be no shootings Like which is ridiculous My thinking those Oh, yeah, for sure. I mean like you guys that sounds like you've got overkill, which is Multiple layers of multiple layers is the best way to do it But I mean they Realistically they could they could really do that. I laid out a whole team Really dude, you could do that with two officers on a rotational basis covering the perimeter of the building Have a dude that was walking on the top with a walkie-talkie and a dude that was walking in the halls You got if you've got those guys where they're where Basically, you build a fire team each guy's got a function Somebody briefs Barricades themselves behind a door You get a fucking fire team that's that's trained together They will breach that door and dispatch of that motherfucker fast, you know what I mean? And those dudes love doing that shit. It's fun to them Now it's fun for people who just know how to do it. You know what I mean? But the teachers there should be teachers that are armed as well You know, this is texas the the thing the the catch 22 on it is it's down there by the border and so It's a high Hispanic population not that they don't have guns But they're not texas with their shit. You know what I mean? Has it been hit it been further north where there's a bunch of confederate flags and whatnot like real red necks That motherfucker already got shot through the window You know what I mean? Somebody would have went and found high ground and put one through the window That would be my mindset. I would have got my 300 and just tried to find a fucking view. It's what you do That's what you do. I mean, it's the dude's already popped kids, but what if that teacher would have a gun That's what my thinking is teacher would have a gun. She could have just fucking ended that whole shit kids would have been traumatized if they'd have been alive So I think the most important thing that needs to be done is now not every teacher I don't think we should mandate teachers carry but every teacher and school administrator and staff In the country should be encouraged and enabled and allowed Immediately for their right really enforced really their right protected to carry a firearm They should most of them almost all them should own and carry firearms And if you had that not only the principal should at minimum Principal should have a weapon But here's the here's the issue is one of the reasons my security you're right at my conferences is stacked in multiple layers We even usually have undercover cops two one or two in the audience On purpose who's playing clothes right on top of uniform on top of security on top of me carrying a gun On top of tony carrying a gun on top of you know 15 20 30 other people carrying firearms What that creates above all is the deterrence Like this is public information It's totally in line with the law If you come in and try to shoot anyone at my conference or actually kill or do serious harm to anyone Any customer of mine any speaker of mine any volunteer of mine? You'll be shot you'll die the chances of you dying is extremely high at my conference If you try to go in and actually break the law and fucking hurt somebody It but so the reason I think nothing will ever happen Hopefully is because it creates a huge fucking deterrence And if if most if even half of teachers in america or whatever right even even 10 or 20 percent And in principles or carrying firearms then anytime a kid ran into a school They wouldn't know who the fuck has a gun and who doesn't How are you going to pick a classroom to be a coward and shoot a bunch of kids? If there's a 25 chance there's a fucking gun in that room, you're not going to do it Gun-free zone schools since 1991 or whatever the fuck it was george h.w. Bush signed it into law They made all these schools gun-free zones and what you created is a fucking kill zone You have a bunch of defenseless slow clumsy children who have no guns around except maybe One school resource officer hanging out in the back somewhere who ain't going to do shit who ran away And parkland florida, right? No, you need you need to these teachers and these principles have a right to carry firearm They're americans on american soil They should have firearms if they're have any training at all and the competence to fucking pull it out and shoot somebody And most of it. So yeah, there should be guns a lot more guns in schools But people are too fucking stupid to fucking they want they don't want to hear that Guns keep people safe That's why no one goes to my conference and gets shot and no one ever will because anyone who tries that shit Will just be fucking killed that's that's how the jungle works, man It takes someone with a gun to fucking kill somebody So if you anyway, the deterrence I think is a huge factor and the schools are missing that they create a kill zone This big collection of kids packed into fucking like sardines in the classrooms with no guns around Of course these people are attracted to it. They don't go to fucking gun range and shoot it up You'll just get shot You don't go to my conference and shoot people. You just get shot. You go to they go to fucking schools, man Yeah, it's it's it's it's definitely a problem and if if I mean the argument that more guns and schools would make it more dangerous All you got to do is find anybody who went to school in America in the 80s 70s and ask them what it was like There was not one school shooting that I heard about when I was in high school Anywhere I'm sure it happened somewhere, but it wasn't major news and it wasn't a massive thing And then in the south there were guns everywhere We I'm like I said, there were guns everywhere if you had a truck Pretty much if you had a truck in high school, you had to have a gun You know, it was like almost it came with the truck everyone had them nobody got shot I even know what we would do we would fight one another and we would circle Make the big old law the big circle with the cars and shit and you fight in the middle And everybody had guns in the cars and nobody got shot Because we were different people we weren't pussies for hours We went from here You took that ass whooping go home and put some baloney on that shit What you did wrong or quit fighting you didn't go grab a strap and go smoke motherfucker That shit came with a Reagan era with crack and all that shit it became about money But before then we just lay some up that's gone So now everybody's a pussy and it's trickled all the way Remember when cops used to be brave? Remember back in the day when that was the image cops were fucking heroes Now Now they're just hiring whoever meets the qualifications I think teachers we need a dude right now. Well, I was talking to Tony the other day right now. We're in a pivotal place We don't need to go back to the old way the old way sucks if it's fucked up We need to create a new way the new way needs to be based in morality family values again It needs to have that cohesion because without that we're fucked. That's why they destroyed it But what we've got to do is we've got to change the whole pro this public school system is garbage It's breeding shithead kids that are fucking retards The teachers are the teachers are poisonous They are fucked up teaching these kids the sick shit. So these people we don't we need to change how everything works We don't need to send our children to these monsters anymore We don't need to do any of the shit that we're doing anymore So it's like it's it's kind of time for all the men To stop any device of bullshit and say How do we stop our country from burning because like this is Rome All of this the valuation of our currency letting the fucking barbarian horge run across our texas border Ad nauseam just come on in They are doing the very fucking same things that the roman leaders did when they were When they were letting the country go to hell Yep, what did the roman people do? And what what are our people doing? We're we're engaging these fucking weirdos talking about pronouns confusing kids calling boys Worklist and all this all of this shit has to change the whole structure From the time that I was a kid. It's been broken I mean, we all came to this Manisphere red pill space Because of trauma you with your medusa Me same fucking situation same situation even though I knew it was a snake. I thought I could tame it. Well, you dumb boy Same shit Yeah, we all grew up and you know why it happened because we believed a lie We believed a fucking lie that was propagated in the 60s with all this liberation and shit But it was fun because we were getting pussy And so yeah, yeah So it's time to say okay. Look guys. I know that it's like when you quit smoking cigarette Hey, man, you shouldn't smoke you get on everybody's nerves because now you realize that what you were doing was fucked up And now your buddies are starting smoking when they drink and now you're like, hey guys You know However, many people die from lung cancer now your boys like shut the fuck up That's how kids are when we talk now like hey listen Throwing your dick around everywhere is probably not the most healthy thing for you to do If you're trying to to get you get on your grind in life All the old shit it's it's gone So now maybe we need to go to the old old shit like the old like everybody says, will you want to go back to the 50s? Yeah Yeah, no, I want to go back to like the 1800. I want to go back to 1800s, man Let's do that in the 1800s somewhere along the way. There was a late 18 of america that had black politicians Like that that was a real thing So there's pictures of that so if that was the case that means we've been here before and something that's broken in our In the matrix There's a glitch in the matrix where black people and the people that are oppressed in this country Find their way up and then they fall back down to the shit I think it's the black red necks It's the black red necks in the other dump and i'm not talking about me and you because i'm a black red Neck in the sense of where I live and how I live I'm talking about the dumb and literate southerners that fuck their sister and preach the dumb shit You look at white trash and look at the dumb niggas that are Oh man, it's the white man's fault. They're the same people. They're just different shades of melon and they got the same mentality It's the same shit People own the dumb ghetto thug people. They're the ones who own your ancestors and you're acting just like them In the dichotomy there's mind blowing. It's fucking mind blowing But we're at a point now where we gotta this whole shit that went on in uh, yobagi It's not gonna stop It is not gonna stop this shit's gonna happen again and again and again because they've been bold in the criminals There's gonna be A bunch of people doing dumb shit and it's gonna be up to the men the men who would have charged that door It's gonna be up to those men not the law enforcement not the government It's gonna be up to the men of this country to say we're not going down or we're fucked simple Yep a woman brother a woman a woman I want to uh shift gears to our final topic for the show. We got I want to close out by about two hours It's been 137 so far. So recently of course the manosphere had a pretty sudden death Uh, probably its most high profile most famous creator at the moment Uh as it as it were, you know, when it happened a couple weeks ago now Kevin samuels about 1.4 million followers just on youtube died Some sort of heart thing probably the uh, the coup fit jab I would think had a role in that but who knows it's uh, I don't know exactly where all that went with the autopsy and stuff but The most important thing is he's dead and it was very sudden And I put him now kind of on a meme, but it's a positive meme Most of my memes are negative making fun of people This one's not making fun anybody. This is much more serious. These are four manosphere guys. They're all dead Uh friends of mine. Andrew the private man Andrew Hanson on the far right He died in 2017 of eyeball cancer. That's why he has a patch on his eye. They took his eyeball out trying to save him He ended up dying in the cancer spread Uh to the left of him is Stefan Arneo. He also died of cancer. He was pretty young Uh, Andrew was in his 50s mid 50s similar to kevin And Stefan was in it about 35 35 years old. He was pretty young Then we got pat cambell. He died late last year. Uh, actually the day before my event 20 summit He also died. I believe the brain cancer Got him And he fought that for I think over a year and even had surgery and stuff trying to get it out in the end He didn't make it also in his mid 50s. No, he was about 61 actually 61 He was the oldest out of the four here and of course kevin samuels So I wanted to get you guys takes on kevin samuels. I was critical of him in the end a little bit before he died But I and I haven't retracted any of that my criticism. So I was not happy with how he handled the nicky minaj stuff He went soft on her when easy. I was concerned. He was kind of selling out But when he died I kind of stepped back and I kind of chewed on his whole life and the totality of his work And I realized it was fun to make fun of him and go after him for that try to push him in a more aggressive direction But his life's work is much bigger than that and his legacy is much bigger than just you know A couple weeks and a couple months of nicky minaj shit And I think he's a pretty cool dude did a lot of good work and he pissed off a lot of the right people and helped a lot of people too He actually made an impact in like black culture in america and for men and women more generally too on top of that So I kind of want to know what you guys think about kevin samuels here His death recently and his impact on the man's sphere and on masculinity and femininity and women and stuff I'll go first real quick I I didn't watch Really very much of his content at all I would watch a lot of the clips. I did watch one show one time probably I don't know probably six eight months ago and to me to me it was um It was more entertainment because I used to like the way he would just really handle people in a kind of a cool calm collective way Unlike anybody else has I think Was it my kind of content? I I don't think so But now in retrospect and I look at some of the things that he's done I think he's made a huge impact on on men and women He just delivered the truth in his own special way. So that's kind of my quick take on Paul how did it how did it uh, what was your first reaction when you found out kevin died? I thought it was fake news. A lot of it was fake At first I thought I was like dude I at first I thought kevin was doing some slick shit To prove a point You know what I mean? Because a lot of his stuff was he was a genius with the way he would do his thumbnails and his titles and shit A lot of things that he would have he would have those little There would be a bit a message buried in the message or something You know, there was a lot of he was almost like an artist And so when I first when I first heard the rumor, I don't remember how I saw it But I was like, okay, this has got to be some bullshit I mean the dude was just on he was just talking yesterday or whatever I just saw some a short clip of something he had just done and uh You know then going to find out that it was trues, you know It's kind of fucked up and the first thing that I thought about when I found out that it was That it was indeed the truth I wondered did this dude take that resident evil So he could travel and do what he wanted to do Because that was one of the biggest reasons why I wouldn't jump on the plane last year And I didn't come to the convention last year was the fear of getting stuck And the fear of having to get stuck and putting a mask on like I'm a I'm a hard line jackass If I say I'm doing something I'm really not going to fucking do it But if I say I'm not putting a mask on I'm not putting it on So I was like is this dude did he get that shot? Did he get that fucking shot if he did that makes sense that he just fell over dead like that because that's uh That's what's happened to a lot of like athletes that are in good shape They're just dying from that myocarditis or whatever it is. So You know I was I've never really been critical of him outside of him being kind of feminine You know the way this is but I know I don't I've never Question is masculinity or anything like that because I don't give a shit to you. I don't care I mean it wouldn't surprise me because those people often know more about women than dudes do And they also know about men because they're men But it that wasn't either here nor there it didn't matter to me I don't I don't care about that but the way you deliver shit. It's like that sounds like I've I've heard that come from men before but they were not they weren't straight But he's smart. He's articulate and the kind of fraternity. I was talking to tony about the other day The first I don't know what fraternity kevin was in but he was in one of those Suit and tie, you know pretty boy fraternities the clean dudes, you know Then you got the omegas the q dogs the loud ones the dudes that end up in the fights and shit I went when I went to college My friends were the dogs and the dudes that I looked at were like Did I didn't want to be like were the dudes like kevin the guys that Wanted to be sophisticated and shit. I never wanted to do that, you know what I mean? It was never my desire to be in a position where I had to wear a fucking suit and cared about Accessorized like I always looked at that one out. I'm this is me This was me making fun of him for that by the way But here's the deal the Nicki Minaj shit I didn't I didn't watch it I watched the clips of people saying this motherfucker should have went harder I think if he was if he was what everybody else wanted him to be He would have done that but samuels was about making money I mean he said that to a couple of people. He made it very clear. I'ma make it and I'm gonna fuck What do I have to do to make it? I get that mentality He didn't really sell himself out because what was he really? You know what I mean? A lot of people wanted to say he should have done this Yeah, I would have done that. I would have done that. Well Didn't get yourself in the position and do it getting Nicki Minaj on your podcast fresh in federal Whoever the fuck would have done something different and then you smash her teeth there He was trying to be famous He wanted to be famous and going after Nicki Minaj. Maybe he could have got some likes on youtube But what would that have done when Nicki Minaj went and put her fucking shit out? You don't want to piss that bitch off that bitch has got way more followers than him I would have done it. I would have done it Yeah, you would have but kevin's a black man trying to promote excellence You know what I mean? I think his fans were I think his fans were frustrated the fans who commented who were Some of them just hated me for posting the simp father stuff But some of them and some of them liked it but some of them were in the middle They were like I get why you're doing it and I'm a fan of kevin's but I'm frustrated. I'm disappointed because they expected him to be Uh consistent with the way he he would treat your average woman the average 30 year old single mom comes on a show That was hypocritical the way he I do I agree with you there That was bullshit because when he got that other little whore on there That he talked to that was fucking the basketball dudes pretty runner pretty running about what's her name? Britney runner that one. He was he was pretty calm with her too And she bragged about being a whore and all that he should have kicked her teeth in with her own words Now had Britney runner been a busted up chick that was like the average at best woman He would have annihilated her sitting there. He would have embarrassed that woman. So what he did That I never really thought of it that way because like tony I wasn't a fan of his shit like I didn't watch I I didn't watch every every video he made There was the ones that went viral when he would check because I like I like hearing him tell these black queens Yeah, it's you're the queen of fucking nothing boss queen boss bitch It's it's all of that mentality And and all like always try to look at both sides of the shit that mentality that boss bitch queen mentality is It's fucking impure radius stupid. It's not true. You're not a fucking queen You've got a job and you pay your bills and you get your her did you're not a fucking queen You don't have a king. You don't have a kingdom. You got a job bitch. You don't have a career You have a job, but the problem is there's a queen Yeah, see and I like jordan peterson I don't I don't I don't not a fan of him, but I like the shit some of the shit He says Needs to be said to men that need to get off their ass There is some shit when he goes now when he starts talking on the feminist side He goes a little bitchy there like he needs to tell women you need to quit being whores You need to quit do he needs to quit being so fucking nice, but then he's gonna step on his daughter's toes So yeah, that's why he doesn't do it He's trending carefully too But yeah, no was sandals sand what kevin did was he was trying to bring he was trying to bring shit together and I appreciated his message because what the black community suffers is Most of their alpha males are emotional fucking little boys They think that being a real motherfucker is doing violence Being explosive and loud and obnoxious like that's sure how your mother is That's not your father if he was a real man He was my dad and my uncles those motherfuckers will go dispatch of somebody from our neighborhood that was doing fucked up shit There was no hoopla no nothing We didn't even know about it until we became adults and like yeah, you remember such and such you did such Your dad and him did you know and like fuck they didn't talk about it. They didn't high five There was no conversation. They just did shit This whole new You're telling motherfuckers your alpha. You're not you don't tell people that you're a lion. You just are one But that whole community is fucked up because they rate the single mothers Raised these emotional little boys that either they keep at home full time Or they ruin them to where they go out and they're all fucked up And so kevin sandals was dealing with the after effects of all that Black women had to be the head of the household the queen because of slavery They got taken away if they had kids It was their job to protect their sons because they didn't want their sons get ripped in half my mass about a horse or whatever it was So they became overprotective. I get that that was a long fucking time ago And it's time to quit running outside when after your kid shoots four people going my baby ain't like that No, the nigga is like that and what kevin was dealing with was all the mothers who have raised those kids and I raised my boys or where are they? You know, where are they and some of them had good stories You know my kids a doctor. He's going to college But a lot of them they're not going to answer that question or a lot of them fucking lied about it You know, so I think I think that the man of spear is particularly really the black man of spear lost The best thing that's ever happened to him because he I mean fuck the dude had over a million He had over a million with warp speed that shit was impressive You you can hate him, but you've got to appreciate that for what it was and he fucking went mainstream like He didn't and he wasn't he wasn't a fraud. He hasn't lied. He didn't lie to get there People were you know frustrated with some stuff in the end like me with the nicky. That's this minor stuff He actually earned he earned that through his own personality and his hard work And you know really a sickly though. I think if we're honest I think that all of us to a certain point would do the same thing Me and tony. We're talking about that. It's all about The person that's talking to you do you respect them or not? Your reaction to them how you take what they're saying to you is going to be highly dependent on what you think of them Now what you know what they think of you if you don't have any respect for it Like I'll give you an example of donovan sharp says something about you anthony. You'd be like I don't give a fuck about what you think But if tony was to say something You're gonna have a different you're gonna you still might go. Whoa. What the fuck? But then you're gonna go. Why would he say that? I respect tony. So why would tony say that to me? It's the same thing with with with When you're dealing with a mud duck you're gonna be I mean dude. Look she's ugly. She's fat. She's And she's trying to talk to you with arrogance I think we would all be a little bit harsher with her than a chick that's very fuckable and she's Being arrogant. I think that we have I think it's almost human nature To look at her and go Ah man, I want to be mean to her but she's so fuckable. You know what I mean? So I think we all gauge it to a certain extent Maybe that's why kevin did that. You know what I mean? And you're not talking the average at best. This is fucking nicky. Ah, she I mean, I'll let's say this like I've never talked to a celebrity Live like that, but I've talked Pears morgan and susanna reed are pretty big news personalities particularly pears morgan He just interviewed president trump and shit whatever he rolls the president obama and whatever That I handle myself. I'm really proud of I handle myself on that interview I haven't been in the so it's a similar situation to what kevin was in but I'll say this like it's you got to be in the heat of the moment What is it? You got to be in the arena I think is what people the men in the military would say and I've been in that and it's hard It's really fucking hard all these guys talking shit not not all of them But 90 of them they would melt nicky menage would would melt these motherfuckers If you're not who you are and ice fucking cold, you you don't even have the option Kevin samuels had big enough balls. He had an option of how you wanted to handle that Most guys would just melt they would cuck Donovan sharp fresh and fit Look britney renner that fucking little single mom When they were face to face she melted those Dude that bitch that is that woman is the exact same chick You'll find at any fucking downtown bar nightclub in america typical single mom skankeroo She melted the table screaming Exactly wasted She melted those little boys myron gains and Walter whatever the walter whatever the fuck weeks. She melted fresh and fit because they're fake Now and so kevin, I think he didn't get melted. He had an option and he chose an option I didn't agree with but I think he was strong enough to have the option A lot of these critics they don't have they have no idea they all they talk tough, right? All internet alpha male and ethos. I would have melted that bitch. Yeah, yeah, right These these news personalities and celebrities will walk all over you because the social pressure is real She had 60 million fucking followers. That's a lot of pressure to come after you if she starts talking about you And you have I've had the media come after me I've come up to my family after the what the make them agree to get shit This is heat man when you have family hitting you up people coming after their job People coming after you people trying to try to find your fucking address Sending you fucking death threats and shit. This shit gets real quick a real hard real fucking quick man And if you don't have the balls to withstand that shit, you'll get fucking melted These people will run your ass over and you'll end up apologizing or being a little beta bitch with your little dick in your hand The shrimp dick like myron and fresh and fit with britney fucking runner That was golden when she walked over them And all you know what's so fucked up about that situation is all all Myron had to do is use the shit that she said I mean, dude, she's like what what kind of person am I all he had to do was like well shit Based off of your own words your nasty slut your nasty trend Like that would be that's all this all needs to be said. I need to start laughing at her They let her be little them when I look at this is the deal when I look at when I look I don't know what the fuck how hot a chick is if I know she's been run through by a bunch of dudes She's not hot anymore like that. I mean, especially if she's been run through by a bunch of Fucking six foot nine dudes will radiate her hoses between their legs Bitch, I'm not trying to fuck. I'm not trying to go nowhere near you think that you're a quality motherfucker You've been Cutted by these NBA players over and over and over again You bragged about it how big these dudes dicks are you think it makes you a rock star Now I'm not insecure about my shit, but I understand how dimensions work and shit, you know what I'm saying like that's That's insane for dudes to look at a chick that you knows that garbage dumpsters She's a fucking outhouse and give her any Any leverage over you like the fact she sat there with that arrogance that dude that hosted that show He set them up. He they should have went off on both of those They should have said something, but they said nothing, but I mean it was It didn't maintain frame Well, I think he did maintain frame. He went to this natural bitch frame He fell out of his fake movie frame and went right, you know, you know as well as anybody else does Tony When you fight you when you engage in a fight you fall You I don't matter doesn't matter what you think how many movies you watched or what you have What you want to believe the moment you're engaged you fall back to your Your base level of training. That's what that's what myra did that bitch called into the square And he fell right into bitch mode. That's where he's comfortable. That's where he lives Because they didn't either any of us that would have been hilarious I would have I would first question her posture. What is all this bullshit? You like What are you doing? What is this? You know what I mean? Like they She did that and he got small like Yeah Checkmate. Well, what was interesting is that she she not only did it. I think she knew like it was a setup probably But she even independent of the setup the podcast hose Facilitating this happening. She knew this would work. She's she's she's a predatory brat And she knew she spotted these beta males from a mile away And all these other beta males that follow them are too stupid and too fucking beta to see it These chicks that mow through that that leech off these beta males and fuck all these You know these these chad read or half retard alpha males or whatever, right? They fucking they they can walk through these beta males like like butter, man Like nothing. They're not dumb. I mean, she's a bunch of shit. Those bitches are not stupid They are like snakes and that's why you got to watch them like a snake You know, I tell my dudes the fuck what she says watch her Watch her like you're a snake watching someone else like you're a snake watching its prey Snakes don't have any emotion about it. She had you I fuck with these snakes out here all the time I'll play pick them up, you know Good ones and I play with them and if you hold a snake and move it that thing doesn't move It looks at you and it doesn't matter where you move it. It watches you because you're a threat You're a threat. You've got it in you figure that I can't get away from this motherfucker And it will look at you you got to look at women like that because that's the way they're looking at you They're looking for those chinks in your armor. This dude just told me about his emotions Put that in the book, you know They're fucking brutal. She's good at that. But I've I grew up dealing with hoes like that. She's She's the britney renters the type of chick that I would have got back in my Fug days We had girls like that on the roster We would get girls like that and we would send them after the dealers that would come into our era flash And money throwing money Go get them girl Shit, man. We'd be waiting in the hotel room that she took them to it's easy fucking easy That's what she is. Wow who she is That's what I'll see that picture Yeah, yeah Yeah, pretty like a snake. Yeah, they watch you exactly Fucking predator, but she's she's smart, but she's dumb because all you gotta do like a dude that she That she deifies Those dudes can get that girl to commit felonies. They get her to do anything And she's stupid, but she's smart like yeah fresh and frit. They don't they don't understand that part of those women's nature But I can see in my way, dude Yeah, there's a saying in the man's sphere a couple years ago. I saw that basically A lot of women and a britney renter is a perfect example. They confuse intelligence with being clever cleverness Britney is not intelligent, but she's clever. Yeah, and she that's how she that's to me. That's kind of it's more cunning It's a cunning it's a specific kind of intelligence the cunning Yes, and yeah to manipulate these beta witty. Yeah witty enough and what she does is that snake She's not a snake that can just bite you with her venom because she's not that hot. She's not intelligent She doesn't have anything going for her other than her fuck ability But what she does is she will take whatever little morsel that she gets and she will use that thing She'll just she'll use that thing and it's just it's that little thing It's that little you must have a small dick if if she senses that about you And that's gonna put you in this whole what other big dick and now she owns you now Like what do you worry about the size of my dick? You ain't gonna get none of it Like that's the proper response to your bullshit ass like but you're not you probably got a giant pussy like But that's when she women like that They know how to find those insecurities and to do his armor and then stick their finger in like god damn That's a sharp fingernail and then they start trying to oh, oh no my armor This is that hole in it like now bitch your fucking finger out of there. It doesn't belong That's what those kids lack man would I have to turn around someday and stop being frauds and man the fuck up and become men but Not likely. I mean It'll be down the line You know right now they've got a rift. They got they're making money off of it You know what I mean? They got these useful idiots that are tuning in No, the worst-case scenario they're getting ad revenue and shit like that. So It's working. They're doing a job But if these dudes move in real life the way that they act online, which it looks like they do They're they're gonna be losers for a long time because the shit doesn't work in real life Yeah, we'll put Well boys appreciate you tuning in today hopping into the show episode 166 of the red man group make men great again It's been a really fun conversation A lot of good dialogue a lot of good conversation about pretty important issues from the frauds To the school shooting to toxic masculinity single moms kevin samuels britney renner All these beta males and shit. It's been a good show Make sure everybody watching. Thanks for tuning in of course come in next saturday. It should be 11 a.m sharp with a new guest Check out the description and you can see links to paul's channel And both his channel is on youtube and rumble and we'll put toni's channel as well under link Tony's growing. He's got about two two thousand two hundred and something maybe more Subscribers to subscribe to his channel. He does shows usually every thursday night and usually every saturday night Not always, but usually. Yeah, I haven't done saturday nights in a while. Just thursday is really busy Yeah, you don't want tonight or no, no, no, okay All right. Well, anyway, check out toni's channel. He'll be a 21 convention this year And he'll be of course paul will be there too as a speaker at the mens event and the fatherhood event So check it out get tickets at 21 studios.com Link in the description all tickets go to hookers and blow. So I appreciate it Coming out to the event Our events are very real and very physical There is a virtual ticket to the mens event if you really want to watch it online But so i'm not going to stop you if you want to do that. It's a cool ticket But ultimately it's about coming out in person being physical shaking hands meeting face to face Asking these speakers like paul like toni like myself and dozens of others Asking them tough questions that you can't even ask on the internet without getting banned and censored and shit like that And building relationships and friendships too. I've known guys at these conventions for many years toni four or five years Some speakers over 10 15 years stuff like that So coming out build relationships build friendships and support the manospheres only ted talks for men We're all speeches published free to the world Anyway paul toni. Thanks for your time today everyone check out the links to the channels in the description Thanks for tuning in hit the like button and leave a regular comment to help feed the algorithm bullshit on youtube and drive more people To find the videos that we have on our channels paul toni, thank you very much and last words Yep, thanks guys