 Good evening everybody Is everybody here me fine? Good My name is Sonya Jimenez. I work for he medicine associates I'm very pleased to see such a nice turnout because we do the outreach and we also do the outreach with councilman Faldanya's staff as well So I'm very pleased to see such a great turnout the very important project not just to this area of town But to the whole San Antonio community as well as South Texas because it could be a really great wonderful Premier Park for all of South Texas to enjoy Just for housekeeping. I like to tell everybody the restrooms are down this hall right here if you need to use a restroom Please take care of yourself. However, you need to at any time. There are some refreshments on the back table over here I'm just did everybody get an agenda before I lose your attention on the back is the comment card Please be sure and fill that out if your comments do not get recorded with the group that you're in Please always know that you can turn those in all comments Whether they're on the comment card or on the maps in front of you will be considered as we create the new master plan Just to quickly go over the agenda You we had a small open house so you could figure out what's going on tonight But in terms of the history and so forth and we will be doing a presentation on that in a little bit Councilman Faldanya will be up in just a few minutes to do a quick welcome Mike frisbee with capital improvement management services We'll be doing a quick introduction of the team giving a little bit of background on the recent bond election and moving forward Larry Clark with bender. Well Clark design will be doing a presentation about the history and so forth at that point when he finishes his presentation We'll take questions for clarification only and when he finishes that presentation I'll come back up to explain the process that we're going to do during the workshop portion of The meeting so the maps that you have in front of you I noticed a lot of you already looking at them writing things down and so forth as a group You all are going to decide the five things that are most important that you want to report out That does not mean that anything is going to be neglected or not looked at and what we consider What's going to be put into the new master plan? It's very important to remember that and then last but not least Now cast essay has agreed to livestream this workshop So if you know somebody wasn't able to attend tonight They can view it on now cast Essay.com these cards are out on the registration table if you want to pick one up for your neighbors And anybody that registered with an email address will be getting an email so that they know where to find that link as well And you can forward that link to whoever you think is interested And then the last thing i'll say before I turn it over to councilman sal dania is If you do have comments after tonight you can submit them to us the information is on the bottom here The only thing I ask is to please turn that man before friday august 17th so that we can make him part of the meeting record So are there any questions about just the general process that we're going to use tonight? Hey very good then Councilman sal dania All right. Well, let's get started first. I want to go ahead and welcome everyone for being here I'm I really can't hide the excitement. I have for what we're going to be able to do today. I was This just two days ago. I went over to the top of one of the hills at pier south park I was walking in I was running down some of the trails and I got to the top of the hill where you can see All of downtown former kelly air force base lackland You can look 360 degrees from the top of those hills But what you could see when you looked at the park was that there wasn't many people it was like a ghost town This is one of the what I think is going to be one of the best parks But today is not a place where a lot of people are coming to and so what we're trying to do today is change that conversation And we're really at the end of the day telling a story Because for most folks who are from the southwest side of san Antonio or from san Antonio have lived here long enough to know The area that we're talking about used to be a landfill Some folks know that some folks nod their head because they remember when they drive down military or pier south road and Point to the fact that that was where the city's landfill was from the 60s 70s to the 80s Well, what once was I think a mountain of trash An area where everybody sort of congregated take took all the city's trash and moved it into pier south. We're changing that Conversation so we're telling the story of transforming from what once was and we'd love to say this What once was a dump into a destination and we think that the best way to do that Is to get input and so we weren't the first to come up with this idea. I actually Pay tribute to association members who were from the area around here who recognized that this was a park that was being underutilized I saw carol abbots walk in. She was one of the first members Folks who have been working at this since 2001 So there was the idea of using this and creating a huge master plan as to what could go on a former landfill because we're talking about 252 acres of parkland We're used to the one acres the two acres here We've got 252 acres that what I think is just a canvas of opportunity and so those folks put together a master plan in 2001 What happened with that plan was it sat collecting dust? for a number of years And so there was this great idea that was pier south park but there was just no reality to it because there was no investment There was no money for it Well with your help and the help of those folks who voted for the bond We now have 7.5 million dollars exclusively just for pier south park And what that allows us to do now is to really turn what was you know a story of of the city's Dump or trash Moving that into what we think is going to be a jewel for the southwest side of san antonio for san antonio And we want you today to think as big and as creative as possible We want not at one point the city the pier south park it wanted everyone's trash today We need your imagination. We need you to think creatively and we need you to think outside the box I want you to hold on to one idea which is that if you're thinking about what to put on those lists What this place should look like? I want you to think what would Bring me from across the city to visit pier south park. What's going to be unique? What's going to be different? We all know what a park looks like whether it has benches or walking trails soccer fields But think beyond that there's been so many great ideas that I love to talk about somebody told me about a zip line Somebody said a 5k trail that walks through there a skate park the city's best dmx bike trails mountain biking The the ideas should keep going and keep rolling along those things along those lines Because we need to make this a destination park not only for those that live closest to it But if this is going to be and what I think undoubtedly the best park in the city of san antonio Then we need to have big ideas and it starts here This is where the story is told and so in four or five years when it's completely built out. You'll say I was at the auditorium. I sat down I was having these conversations and now today it exists and so we need you to be as as Creative as possible think as big as you need to at the other day We got 7.5 million dollars and it sounds like a lot But what we're going to take is everyone's ideas put it into the new Master plan now and implement them as soon as we can get the authority to do so and start construction We're hoping by the end of you know 2013 and really get moving on this. So I welcome everybody to have Crazy time thinking of the craziest ideas you can imagine about this park It could really this is going to be a product that is it is coming from your imagination And I think that the folks are going to accept the final product They need to be part of the process So I'm I'm excited to get this the conversation started about the best park in the city of San Antonio So thank you for being here and I'm going to go ahead and let them get started They got a great presentation to talk about what we're going to be able to do. So with that I want to Invite Mike frisbee to talk a little bit more about the background of the project I just wanted to get you guys flowing get you guys excited because I am I've been thinking about this So let's get started Mike Thank you councilman appreciate your leadership. You know I met Mike frisbee the director of capital improvements and as we Looked to prepare the 2012 bond program a year ago I had some discussions with the councilman and he wanted to emphasize pierce all parks and make a significant investment If the voters would approve and so we appreciate you being a champion For this project and of course there's a lot of champions here tonight and we welcome you We also appreciate the citizens committee For parts through the bond process as a 32 person committee And they all agreed that a major investment In pierce all park was important as well and then went on to full city council and ultimately to the voters Who agreed to the projects throughout the city? So We're often running tonight to keep part of that I do want to recognize that we've got it's very important for multiple departments to be here tonight to hear from you all And so we do have Xavier Yuritia the parks director Xavier and quite a few park staff over here And we've got capital improvements management services staff over here solid waste management back here Taking care of that park at this point with the landfill and so forth. So we appreciate the support across the city I do want to give a little bit of background Some of you already know this information Others this will be new so this will be good to get everybody on the same playing field here The park is 231 acres as it is today And this was as the councilman said the site of an active landfill from 1967 through 1982 And at that time a closure permit Was filed in 1983 And the landfill is still closed closely monitored and maintained by the solid waste management group folks leadership here today And so that is taken care of on a regular basis The master plan development as the councilman said that we there is a master plan in place It was created in 1999. So 12 13 years later with significant funds now being provided It's a great time for a significant upgrade and change to that master plan But as you all know, you get up on top of the mountain there and there's incredible views of downtown Incredible views of the Lackland Air Force base and the surrounding area. So it's a huge opportunity For us and for the community Just to let you know what's happened so far. We've been smaller projects to date phase one was the dog park and the associated parking and Festival trail up to the top of sunset hill Phase two was the development of the ball fields and open space the disc golf course and some parking And phase three that's back up now. We had an issue with our contractor The bonding company is now taking over and getting that project fixed Finished out. So you might have noticed they started last week again It'll be about 90 days to complete the project and and basically that's providing additional trails to the top of sunset hills sunset hill parking and Some playground components as well. So Smaller scale as the money we had to work with until this point where we can as as the councilman said Think a lot bigger picture here and much more impact. So again, welcome tonight. I do want to introduce Larry Clark with bender will Clark It's important as a city that we hire. We manage these projects, but we hire professionals landscape architect and so forth to help Because they they have the experience the expertise to take all the great ideas that'll be produced tonight and Put those into design plans and so forth. And this is really the start of a public process We'll have future public meetings as the design concepts get shaped And much of tonight, you know along with getting the vision from the councilman A big component now will be your input in the workshop setting here That's going to be really foundational for how this part develops. So with that, let me turn it over to Larry Clark Thanks very much. It's great to see it such a good turnout tonight. We've had meetings in the past with Quite a few fewer residents. It's great to see people from near right nearby the park Turning out tonight. I want to briefly cover a few things tonight Um history of the park some of the current park features and then talk about some of these potential new features That could be put into the park and as councilman salvia said we're trying to go here from a dump to a destination And really create a wonderful renovated condition that As as mike said was a sanitary landfill from 67 to 82 And it was restricted in access for over 16 years You know the boundaries its pierce all road and leon creek and it's on the Leon creek greenway, which has just been recently completed About a one and a quarter mile from the trailhead all the way down to near kintana road It didn't go any further because of the railroad tracks in that point, but it's a wonderful I think that's one of the best greenway sections in san Antonio Uh mike said that permit for closure was in 1983 and at that time it was identified as potential future parkland but nothing really happened until the 90s when some of the folks in the neighborhood activated staff and a Park master plan was developed. We worked on that plan in 2000 a lot of you worked on that plan as well And that first phase of construction was scheduled right thereafter In that plan we identified these incredible opportunities for views and visibility But also the fact that we've got great infrastructure here We've got a saws water reuse line that runs right along the edge of the park And we've got pierce all road, which is a great transportation and good connection We've got great vegetation. We've got trees in the leon creek valley and we've got a hillside that's covered with grass But the constraints of the site are such that we need to talk a little bit about that tonight and just Identify the fact that we've got a landfill On this site we have slope on this site and we have a flood zone But as we said in the 2000 plan, there's no major constraints to prevent the use of this site as a large urban park the park area is considerable and You can see it here with leon creek at the bottom and pierce all road at the top military drive over there on the right The 100 year flood zone of leon creek Comes right up to the park and covers a bit of the park including those recently completed nature trail That are off to the right side of the park if you look at the landfill areas. That's in yellow Those occupy a good portion of the site as well And if you look at the slopes that are over 10 and this isn't a slope that you'd want to Park your car on you might run straight up it but it's it's a 10 percent slope is 1 in 10 And that's a pretty good steep slope That occupies a good portion of the site as well And if you put all of those together and look at the impact of that on the site You can see that we have these areas that are constrained by one Or all of those three things and if you take away that and look at the unconstrained areas of the site These are just areas that are flat. They're not on the landfill and They do they're not in the flood plain. So these are areas that could accommodate just about any use In that 2000 master plan we had a group process with three groups reporting back and telling The community what they wanted to see in the park And some focused on active recreational uses some focused on nature trails and passive uses And out of that came a plan that has active zones passive areas and natural areas There's a copy of that on your table that shows that On the left there the dog park the athletic field the sports. That's a very active zone The center portion was seen as the passive area. We have a kids play area We have a trail to the top of the hill That type of thing and they're on the right in the flood plain with more of the natural area And that's where we now have not only the leon creek greenway But we also have these wonderful nature trails that are in that area But out of that also came that same goal In a consensus that we have to have a unique park We have to make this a place where people will come from all over the city and all over the region And have those active passive and naturalized areas in separate portions of the park So again those those constraints just mean that we can't put deep footings for buildings for example in the landfill We have to provide ADA access We want to provide a access and we have for all the trails Including those sloped areas and it takes some engineering and and control And then we can't put any structures in the flood zone Um, but we do have those hills and views nature trails leon creek greenway the dog park the athletic fields Those trails and those are great amenities that are there today The disc golf and athletic fields And then that dog park people come from you know up by I've met people there from Gosh Selma, you know and shirts that come all the way down with their dogs to walk their dogs there And as mike said under construction right now is another additional portion of the park work that includes a new play area Toilets seating a kiosk some artwork New ADA access all the way to the top of the hill and when you get to the top of the hill there'll be picnic tables And benches and an overlook up there and we're also putting in some planting and irrigation In that area So here's an aerial view of the park today. You're looking sort of from over top of leon creek The dog park's all the way at the top And lackland is there at the bottom and that you see that yellow outline is the park boundary And if you look at the park from the other direction Um, you can see it's a huge area the hills are in the center there Um, we have a lot of land to work with So as councilman said the funding for this future phase of the park was included in the 2012 bond program and that bond passed the voters Accepted that and now it's time for you to let us know what you would like to see in the park in the future so Again, we want to attract people from outside of the area to create a setting that wouldn't be found elsewhere in the region And this has happened in other cities other cities have taken Tens of thousands of acres of old landfill And converted them into parks a couple of great examples are fresh kills in new york And mount trashmore park and i thought carol abitson vetted mount trashmore But at which he's been calling this mount trashmore for years But uh, there is actually a mount trashmore park in virginia beach virginia and uh, it is a site that hosts A lot of athletic running Events they've got a great skate park. They've got some ponds and water features there They've got great nature areas that they've created fireworks Fourth of july that's the place to go and they've even put the seal of the city Right up on the hill face And fresh kills is um another one. It's uh Really got a marvelous master plan It's just being put forward now and it's going to really convert that place into a incredible people place So what's pierce all park? What's it going to look like? What are we going to do with pierce all park? What would you like to see there on your table is a list of all sorts of ideas Of features and activities that might be put into the park But there's also a lot of other activities that we haven't thought of yet And that's where you all need to put on your most creative Thinking caps and come back with what would you like to see there? And some of those features are going to fit into the park better than others and we'll work on that in the master plan Um, there may be some active, uh things like again running and cycling Um The boggling down the hills who knows? Um, we've got thoughts about bmx bikes about fitness activities sand volleyball all sorts of activities for kids including soccer basketball maybe swimming maybe fitness classes soccer running kite festivals What a great place to fly a kite. It's always a breeze up there um There's all sorts of activities that we can think about here That would uh really support be supported by this park including a farmers market perhaps or community gardens Um, I know there's a great vegetable place just down the street here. That's under the trees on on the Ray Ellison, but uh, wouldn't it be great to have a permanent facility like that on the weekends where you could come and buy fresh produce um all sorts of ideas of the zipline. I love the idea of the zipline But um, there's all there's ropes courses and other things that can be plugged in course slides and all sorts of adventure things for kids and uh taking advantage of the hills. I think is one of the things that we could really look at um incorporating into the master plan Nature has a place here, too And we really need to think about beauty and making this hillside just a gorgeous place as well as the areas down below Star gazing at night perhaps butterfly collecting Tree planting tree farms all sorts of things that incorporate nature and there's a huge group of folks who love to birdwatch on the leon creek greenway and get up on the hills and look at look at the birds Art should be a part of this as well And there's opportunities for art to be plugged into this park and make it something that becomes a destination for people And just make it beautiful everything we could do here to make it more beautiful would be wonderful So well you want to see here in the future That's the big question for tonight and we want to get your input And this master plan is going to serve as a guide to future development Estonia is going to come up again and tell us about our process for how we're going to gather your ideas here tonight. Thanks Thank you, larry. I'm just going to give you all some quick instructions You do not have a facilitator, but I would like for you to choose somebody at your table to be a facilitator The facilitator's responsibility is really to keep track of time and make sure that everybody is heard that wants to speak If you do not want to speak that's fine, too But we encourage you to at least use the comment card to get your voice heard If I can ask some of you to congregate or maybe you can move to a different table It's not going to be very good for just one person. We really want you to have a dialogue I briefly put the instructions on your agenda. So the first few minutes Take some time to introduce yourself if you haven't already to the people around you Take a few minutes just to brainstorm forget what larry said about constraints and all this Do you only have so many acres of land? Tell us what you want. It'll be his job as a professional to say where it can go where it can't go And when we come back to update you we can tell you why or why not it wasn't incorporated and then we can get back to the constraint So for tonight, we don't want you to concentrate too much on the constraints. We want you to concentrate on what would you like to see in the park So after you do a little bit of brainstorming I'm sorry before you do that select a recorder somebody who writes clearly That can take notes right on the map anybody can write on the map that they want to but we just want to be Sure that it's clear enough because we have to process them at the end of the day And if we can't read it your thoughts are going to be lost So please be sure somebody does that Again without any limitations. What would you like to see at pierce all parks? This is the main theme of the whole Process that we're using tonight discuss your ideas And then agree on the top five that you would like to see And at the end in about 30 minutes We'll call you all back up and we'll ask that you select a reporter to report out the top three Things that you want to do you don't necessarily have to agree on everything But you need to agree on what you're going to report out and you need to pick a reporter to do that for you So we'll be spending about 30 minutes doing that for the next 30 minutes I have 7 25 so right before 8 o'clock we'll get back together and we'll report out Everybody will be heard every group will be heard So don't have any fear that your group won't be heard And then we'll give you a little more direction before we start that larry has one more thing to say We also if you if you get if you have a question just raise your hand Ben and iris from my officer here is it for technical questions and If you have you know any kind of technical question, just let us know and we'll be happy to help you out Sir you have a Quick question How many do you think we need? That's the tonight. We're just we want to put forward ideas And if you can you know identify Parking for what what sorts of things, you know, we want what parking for sure Yep Yeah, okay. It's great. That's that's a first thought to put down on your plan and we'll get moving And again just real quickly If you think it's more parking say more parking they're the professionals They have to figure out how many to accommodate the activities that are going on at the park So if you think it needs more parking just say that and quickly I'm happy to see all the young people because you all should be out there using that park as well Councilman sildan is on the few that uses it when it's 100 plus degrees outside We have one more question How the park lose 50 something acres Well, we're going to get to that answer for that. I'm not sure where they all Some people say 230 some people say 250 some people say two we did acquire a lot of property around the park in 2000 and so there may be some discrepancy with old surveys Right, but don't yeah And we'll be walking around to make sure everything's going okay. Thank you all Okay, so i'm charlotte and lucas with now cast s a and i am here with councilman rey sildanya And um, he called this meeting today Yep, that's right. That's right. Tell me tell me what you're hoping to accomplish here tonight So it's it's it's our It's our idea that we think people are very creative and they when given the opportunity they will come up with amazing ideas And so we wanted to collect residents from all over the city today to talk about one thing Which is pierce all park and pierce all park is a wonderful story that we're telling today Which is that it used to be a former landfill Back in the 60s 70s and 80s and now it can finally be turned into a park and it's 252 acres making it the third largest in the city What we think after everybody's creative juices and imaginations have come together will make it the best park in the city Depending on how wild and crazy their ideas are we're trying to put them in when we passed the bond In may it allowed us to use 7.5 million dollars just for this park So we want folks to think about what you know, whether it's it's the best skate park in the city expanding the dog park BMX mountain biking. I just heard a great idea about a fitness outside fitness center We want those ideas because we think that if this is going to turn into a destination park Not only for those that live around it, but we're thinking beyond that What is going to take somebody from the the north the east the west side of san antonio To really draw them to this park and it's going to be unique features. And so that's what we're looking to get today Yeah, it sounds like a really exciting process. Yeah, I mean we're pumped And it's not even a question of having to say and I hope we can go find the money You've already got the money So the hard part really was trying to get the money and we we had ideas of turning this into a park back in 2001 And so the problem was that folks had all these ideas. They put them together and it sat for about nine 10 years because there was no investment. There was no money for it. So Because of the bond now we've got the investment for it Now we just need people to get creative before we go out and start building the dream that is pierceau park So when could that building start begin? Well, we're hoping that the the input process and design takes about Maybe three or four months so that by 2013 we already start seeing the first shovel or construction project in to get this going That's not very long We're hoping that that's what it takes barring any unusual circumstances We want to get this one off the ground as soon as possible Well, so so for the next few minutes, I suspect you want to get in there and eavesdrop Sure, and maybe plants of my own ideas But really this is an opportunity that we hope it will grow organically from the residents What they want to see and we're hoping that they really will gene big That's neat. Well, thank you so much for taking the time and my pleasure and I do want to let you get back and And you know start picking their brains as well about what to do exactly Okay, thank you. Thank you. So I'm back again And now we have mike frisbee with the city of san antonio here and mike. Um, what is the department that you work? Work in it's called kaplan improvements management services sims And uh, we manage the city's project. So whether it's a great park project like this one or building roads or airport projects or convention centers Whatever it may be libraries We work with our different departments to get those projects built for them So so this in this instance, um, we're here to talk about What to do with money that already has been approved for this part. That's right There's been the voters have already spoken where the 2012 bond and we're excited about that They approved 140 projects all over the city about 60 projects 60 of those are park projects Now this pierce all park is is one of the biggest that was approved at 7.5 million dollars And really because this is a huge acreage, you know, 235 acres It's an old landfill that now is a closed landfill and it looks like a mountaintop over there And it is an ideal place to build park infrastructure And so today or tonight what we're doing is is really a first step and that is working with the community In a workshop setting to hear from them where they want to see in this big destination regional park of the future This uh, this process i've seen similar things go on with with trying to be strategic about planning in the city But this this kind of saying to people. Hey, what are your ideas? That's relatively new, right? I mean within the past it is, you know the the old traditional way would be a huge group setting They would hear some speeches and then one by one they would come up to a microphone and somebody would grandstand for 15 minutes And really the the people wouldn't get a chance to speak so this smaller setting in a workshop where they can talk amongst themselves And brainstorm a little bit and then they can report out to the whole group You know we have a couple hundred people here But each table is going to be able to report out to the greater group and talk about what what their top three Elements are but we're capturing not just their top three We're capturing all of their discussion points through this so our professionals can go back and say What will work in the park what won't work? And so after tonight we'll spend some time with our consultants our private consultants And they'll spend a couple months Looking at all this information seeing what works in the park and then coming back to the community to say Here's what we heard from you all and here's what can work Here's what we're thinking get some more input as we continue And then ultimately we'll get to where we can start designing the park elements and start building those park elements Wow, wow Fun stuff and and really really engaged. I mean really participatory. Yeah, definitely grassroots These people Live around here This park, but then we I've noticed a lot of people from throughout the city And they're seeing that this is a big destination park for the future So they want to have a little say in it as well. So that's good Okay, so for folks who are either watching live right now or who are replaying this video After the fact is it too late for them to put in their two cents? No, it's not we can we can always take input through our sims department Through the the san antonio.gov website. We're taking input all the time. There will be future community meetings as well So the the input can continue all the way into the design process Well, great. Thank you so much for taking the time and And letting people be part of this process. Thank you for covering it. Thank you So we're back again, and I'm here with the director of san antonio parks and recreation xavier uritia and We were just talking about The city's original parks and rec director guy by the name of lidwig menki Right first commissioner over the parks to and he did among other things. He designed rack and rich park correct and Um, I think things are being done a little bit differently now than they were then I think it's really a change in how I think We as citizens as park patrons Really utilize our parks and also I think how We integrate An urban environment with a natural environment. I think you know rack and rich is an example Of a time and place and also kind of a destination that maybe didn't necessarily blend with The the surroundings where nowadays we really look at how do we integrate Parks into neighborhoods. How do we make neighborhoods more sustainable? How do we use these to strengthen families and and to really offer people alternatives and different opportunities that they may not have on their own That's that's all very fascinating because I mean on one hand. I love going to rack and rich but on the other hand Yeah, that integration with with the neighborhoods is not really I mean there's the big arches that you go in Correct. It's was much more of i'm going to a place where now I think people are really asking They want to be part of the place. They want to they want to be part of the ideas that make up the place and they also want to be able to Feel that the place is theirs And that it is really integrated into the neighborhood graded the greater community and can really form a Take a lot of different functions, you know really filling gaps where you know, whether it's Both passive green space or active green space or in some cases where we have parks that share space with libraries Or share space with other amenities that you know, the greater community needs Well on in this section of the city, this is a really big deal acreage wise and idea wise huge It's really is can be transformative and it's really what the councilman envisions for this area I mean we have a resource that hasn't been tapped yet And so tonight is really the first step and asking people Hey, we are able to do something different here We have resources dedicated that you as voters approved in the bond election and we have the raw Asset as well having the park land available so he's asking people to think think out of the box really dream and try to See what we can come up with his ideas that again really look at addressing the needs Of a population that is changing a population that will grow We have kids here tonight. We have seniors here tonight and really it's again. It's about a community place It's about a place that neighborhoods can come to it's about providing options and alternatives For our community So are your colleagues in other cities really jealous of you because you get to like you got this enormous blank canvas to work with I think well, there's always I mean, you know, there's all different kinds of parks And we love all our parks. I I say, you know, I never really compare parks of each one is so unique and individual um, and really what we have is What I think about san Antonio, we may not have More parks in any other city, but we really have unique parks like you mentioned brack and ridge Very unique has a lot of different features zoo and museums We have other parks that have natural areas. It's about really getting in touch with nature We have other parks that you know, really look at a spiritual side They really look at trying to offer a place of solace and And be able to go and maybe read or just pray or think and so really again I think what we have is a unique situation in san Antonio where we have, you know We have a lot of history here. We have a lot of new parks. We have a lot of really old parks, you know So I think what we see tonight is being able to take some of those ideas And hopefully what we have is the best of all those together in a whole new park Parasol park so so have you heard ideas that that really ticked your clock tonight? Well, we have a lot of ideas I mean, there's people that they talk about splash pads, you know There's people that talk about there's an existing disc golf course that they like to see redone There's you know runners that want to come here So again, I think it's that combination and finding the balance And so that it's really not especially because in this area of the city where we don't have a regional park Where it's not just one note. We really want to see a symphony of ideas Really working together and really that creates beautiful music for the community and that is a park That's really exciting. Yeah, we're real excited about it. It's really really exciting. Well, thank you so much for taking the time And thank you for doing this in such a wonderful way that that it jolts everybody's imagination. Exactly. Thank you a lot. Appreciate it Okay folks The way we're going to do this is we're going to give you about one minute To report out your top three Maria and kelly have wireless microphones if you guys can raise your hand so they can see you Kelly's over here. Maria's over here We're going to simply alternate from one side of the room to the other And just go and order that way when you get up, please say what group number you represent The top three things and they'll give you very little time for commentary so that we can try and get out of here right on time If number eight meets some more time, we'll give you some more time That's not a problem, but we will start over here at number seven We're group number seven and our top three is sand volleyball tennis courts And water play area or swimming pool for children Sand volleyball I I love some volleyball and I really drive all the way to 281 in o'connor to Play some sand volleyball. So that's something that I would like to see on this side of town tennis courts also is not nowhere nearby and water park It's sometimes expensive for parents to take their children and it's so hot here in san Antonio So it'd be nice to have something close by too. Okay. Thank you. Thank you very much group number seven one of your top Five have already been noted Then skip to something else say something new that you have that hasn't been heard already Uh kelly, you're over here. Are you guys ready? Okay, well we have here A paintball area a lot of the kids I know in this area they like playing paintball But that's something I mean with rented equipment that'd be really good for the kids because some kids can't afford it I mean so we can kind of just rent out a couple guns have a little paintball area That'd be really nice for a lot of these kids here um also a handicap specific equipment such as Swings and playgrounds because I mean I have a lot of handicap friends And with their kids it's harder for them to get a hold of everything. They can't go to a lot of parks Things are very challenging for them It's the and a bigger playground with a shaded area The one at mother's pond is I mean it's small and it's no cover It's we have kids that come out there and they're burning their fingers left and right And see they're getting burned. You see you see their legs burning from the slides because there's no cover Yeah, we're group three Thank you group number three We were trying to get that video up earlier and so it popped on right when you started So I was a little bit distracted, but we did capture what you said Um, I will direct you larry is taking notes over here as well to That's not the end all and be all but please be sure whatever you have us to get is on your map or on your comment card So maria group number one carol abbott We were really a group Our three items our cross-country course capabilities a larger or second dog park and conservation education Very good. Thank you stand up and just Name tell us your group number and then give us the top three things that you want to see at the park for your group group number four I like to see at the park A playground that's shaded with the merry-go-round What does he saw in some swings and the fitness equipment a back of our court that has shade and advice update Pick up a just a little bit Okay, security in general and bike patrol Wonderful. Thank you You did a great job Get this group right here in front We wrote down about 12 things but you said you don't want to do three So we'll do three What is your group number six table six? Okay, great You would like to see maybe a concert a night like maybe once a month to have a place where you could have a concert or some kind music movies or something like that Another water fountain Either at the end of the trailhead Or along the trailhead along the trail drinking water drinking water yes, man and If we're going to hike up The hill We're not all in as young as the councilman or as fit as the councilman But when you go up that hill with no shade And you get to the top of the hill there's nothing to drink And there's still no place to sit down to recover to start back down or go to the other side We'd like to see some trees and maybe some water at the top of the hill Great input Ventious Thank you so much. Okay table number five First five things that they mentioned are really really Basic and even handed they want an ADA playground. There's not one on this part of the city as far as anyone can remember There's a skate park request here A parking expansion adequate for park activities basketball swimming pool and water play area There's some things that are interesting here number one that there is a creek that has water in it all the time so we would like to Like enhance the creek in general with the basic idea of you coming to this park to make it to the creek Now, in other words, that's the really big deal. That's the reason why everyone show here is to make it to the creek So we do some work Larry over there's a landscape architect. They know how to do that. So we included that and the other thing is really basically There's a spot for an amphitheater. It's sort of in the terrain already So we wanted to include that too. Thank you very much. Great. Thank you mark. Thank you group number five Hello number eight. All right the things we're not going to talk about is walking trails running paths lighting and uh And all the the particular thing you have in here for athletics, we're not going there because it's going to happen anyway Okay, uh, what we are going to discuss Is kind of like the comment of the amphitheater But I think the amphitheater is going to be very popular if you put them in they're going to be extremely popular So you're going to need more than one Two or more amphitheaters to cover a multiple list of your things will put a lot of people in having said that Now you have a problem with getting around now Yes, you can either put parking in three different areas sufficient to solve the problem Or you can do it overhead Or you could do a railroad train Small rinny rails dropping off and coming back to where the parking not letting people get off this Is we put down as an ADA because an awful lot of the elderly Won't even visit unless you have something some way for them to get around to it And when we have five items I'll stick to my third one, which is the concession stand And rest area a building that's ac that has ac that You can you can go and rest cool off have something to eat drink Enjoy yourself for a while before you step out and heat again We have lots more as you can again Great. Thank you so much Uh group 10 uh our top three Uh was a decommissioned aircraft area For for kids to interact Let their imaginations, you know fly I guess you will but uh, you know I Some of us experience that as kids and yes, we did have airplanes in my day but You know I did experience that and uh, they had decommissioned airplanes in king'sville, texas and uh A lot of us got to play in those things and it was it was a great experience for for a little kid another one would be A playground village similar to what's on uh, uh, I guess what's at the the street ocean drive and corpus christy they have it's a very large uh play area for kids And Probably the gravity sports would be our our number three because I think that could be a combination of different activities Very good. Thank you so much great input from all of you Let's see where are we Right here in the front Hello, um, we're representing group number nine and The three things that we had chose to Talk about where the the skate park to have one of the biggest skate parks here Like on the south side and then the other one would be the stargazing with the telescope and then two is having like neural space to help make the The Part nice and have like kids from the community or people from the community come help and like decorate their own park, you know So very good Thank you. Great idea I were group number 12 And as an overall theme we wanted to make this park to be self sustainable to whereas we get a lead certification To bring out uh to bring the the public to gain the public's interest and also bring other people from from outside Um, one of the major things we would like From our group was like a botanical garden of a botanical garden The other thing was to have a swimming pool and a skate park a skate park Great. Thank you Good evening everyone. We're a group number 13 One of the most important things that we talked about first is in a park is the safety and security because you know There'll be a lot of family and children there. So we're thinking about uh, implementation of a Emergency call system. So if someone gets attacked by a wild animal, there's a emergency You could be able to use that to um call law enforcement Another thing we talked about was uh, forward and tree houses for the kids across the park that don't necessarily have to be on a tree um Another thing we talked about was community gardens For to allow our community to you know come out and maybe do their garden and things like that So those were the top three issues that we talked about Thank you Hello, is 11 uh table 11 Our great ideas over here Our first one is going to be train and sky ride to travel around the park As y'all mentioned, we do have a da's a da's people and also seniors and that'll attend this park So we need to make it accessible for them as well our second uh idea was on the mound To have inflatable inflatable movie screens and also for concerts And also bleachers that can be moved around to you in case you want to watch the stars Or do you want to see a different side of the city? The third and foremost and the greatest idea we have Is to have barbecue pitch picnic tables throughout the park so we can have for parties in easter and name this park Bracken bridge of southwest Thank you We can just put the train and it'll be like the Cadillac of the eagle at Bracken Thank you Hi, I'm speaking for group 15. Um our three things were the ample theater as well And basically The beauty of the park uh, re-enhancing the landscape lots of trees like oak trees and maybe creating a natural spring and Definitely a community pool alongside with a children's playground. And that's it Thank you very much You know what I'm going to talk about councilman your group number by the 17 Okay, great. Although this young lady in blue and the young man over there Already beat me to it, but it's a community garden The next one would be the interactive Water plate for the kids The covered or picnic areas with shade the trees And uh, if anybody wants to talk about the garden come see me. I'm ready to talk about it. All right We may be able to get some hands on over there. Thank you so much group 17 Okay, we're uh, we're group 19 And a lot of ours have already been mentioned But one thing we kind of want to add to the community pool is maybe it'd be indoor So that is available, you know year-round um One other thing is the pavilion You know to put pavilions on the hilltop because right now if you go on the hilltop the benches that are there It's real hot, you know, nobody's nobody's going to go, you know in 100 degree weather But if they're shade it makes it a little more manageable um, so pavilions on the hilltop And of course your essentials electrical parking and restrooms in the common areas One thing that we kind of went out of the box on is like food truck areas, you know, that's kind of becoming a little more common Here in san Antonio, you know, if you have the food truck areas where people can, you know, go and buy their mini tacos and stuff like that Put the microphone a little bit closer to your mouth. Okay, and um that that was about it Other than you know enhancing what's already there like the athletic field Is kind of uneven, you know, kind of evening that out and make it more inviting to uh, you know, little league teams and stuff like that That was all right. Thank you very much Okay, i'm speaking for group 16. Okay um We have some of our stuff was already mentioned, but 5k trail actual trail. I know there's an existing Walk a greenway there, but make it an actual 5k trail uh some batting cages And a rope course rope course Thank you so much. So group number were you? Thank you. We're 16 16. Thank you group 16 over here group 14 we had Similar ideas. We had the 5k running track We had the swimming pool and we had adventure play areas. It just sounds exciting the adventure part Um, also golf driving driving ranges the husband and the little one have to drive to san pedro to go Hit some golf balls. So one in our area should be fun great great ideas You have another here Yes, thank you very much for this opportunity Uh, a couple things number one we would one of our ideas would be a pavilion with an observation deck at top of the hill It will draw more people to kind of climb up there and encourage more exercise and of course the view is outstanding Uh, second thing is we wanted to add water features Uh ponds fountains waterfalls that will draw people more to the nature side of the creek I think that's another selling point Uh, most importantly the reason I came here for personally is the redesign of the disc golf course Um live oak has a tremendous opportunity. They more than likely will probably get the 2014 world championships It will bring an amount It will bring in a lot of um Income to san Antonio I believe we should we should help in that process and grow the sport number one And it won't take any more land For the redesign of the disc golf course It's uh, it would be a major selling point We have a lot of disc golfers here in the south side that travel regularly to the north side because of the fact that there is no benches for the tea areas In in the mowing That's another big problem too, but if we can get those situations done of redesign We will track more people from the north side to the south side and show off this park that you guys are Wanting to build it'll be a great opportunity. Thank you guys. Great. Thank you. What table were you? 18 Thank you Are we done over here any other ones any other groups? Very good wonderful wonderful work you all did I'm going to turn it over to councilman so we can go ahead and wrap it up when we might get up here a few minutes early Please be sure and be reminded that now cast sa.com is a resource to see the workshop online And tell your other neighbors that weren't able to make it And to turn in your comment sheet If you haven't done so already or you can just leave them on your table in the middle in the center of the table Where your map is so councilman fall done Well, first of all big round of applause for sonia Her group And and her staff was out here working the reason that we're not going to lose anything that was said or recorded today on those Tapers because they are going to do a lot more work after this meeting after this meeting They're going to go back and help package it so we can turn in A modified master plan that's the That's the sort of what we're going to go away with here, but you know what you did not disappoint I was I was a little worried that we were going to fall into the basic thing But you guys are crazier than I thought I mean we had some amazing ideas and that's exactly what we were looking for from our young people here To some folks who have gone through this process before and have seen and waited and at the end of the day What we've had is just you all have been extremely patient about waiting for something like this on this side of town And so I wanted to make sure to hear the ideas that you guys have been circling in your head So as a follow-up We won't have another follow-up meeting what we'll have or actually We we may actually put together a follow-up where we'll it'll be us talking more to you and presenting the master plan And what we can see as some of our engineers come through it and talk about what was so crazy It didn't fit or what was such a good idea that we you know, we couldn't have gone without So I want to thank you guys for visioning and dreaming really really big And I really appreciate the youth group who came out here I appreciate everybody who took a little bit out of their Tuesday night to make it out here And a big theme that there was there was heard that I heard over and over was the fact that We have to travel to other places to get these things And so what we're hoping to do is reverse that trend where we see that everybody says that they have to travel to Pierceall park to come and see these amenities. And so we're hoping that at some day, you know That's what's going to be the narrative that's what people are going to be talking about And it started with a story like I said turning the first page of the chapter right here with your voices So thank you again so much for being here be on the lookout since you were here You're going to get a follow-up To be invited back because we have your contact information as long as you gave us the right stuff So we look forward to having you back to talk about it And once again, thank you guys for being so amazing and being as wild and crazy with your ideas The meeting is adjourned. Thank you So I'm here with Larry Clark who is with bender well's Clark design And you are going to be taking all of these ideas and trying to see what's Possibly yes, absolutely. You got a great idea tonight. Yeah So I heard some really different kinds of things. What did you hear that that that you were that you were going? Oh interesting. Well, uh transportation one thing. This is a huge park. So moving people around in the park Might be something that we can accommodate and you know the whole idea of this park being sustainable and a representation of What collected trash for years But we didn't have recycling back then, you know, we have a lot of opportunity here to start integrating every kind of recycling reuse low energy use Heard a lot of people say let's get a lead certified building. Let's use solar energy. Let's use wind energy Let's use recycled materials and everything we do So maybe that transportation system runs on biodiesel or or some alternative fuel or electricity or natural gas I don't know. There's all sorts of possibilities there. You could bring back the gondolas from hemisphere park Yeah, that wasn't a thing. Yeah people wanted a chairlift or a people mover overhead people mover, which is great You know a great idea now putting that into a landfill. Maybe might be a little bit tough But we'll look at it. I mean, you know, we've got um I think the circulation is the is one really critical factor of any park plan We've got to really think through how to get people moved around the park. Absolutely. Absolutely. That's really fascinating Because you don't think about that too much when when parks are smaller, right, you know Or when you come to the perimeter of the park to park, you know And the fact that we could accommodate a 5k run entirely within this park Is something that you know hadn't really struck us Early on but the idea is you know, you have so many groups in san Antonio that have charity runs They have to hire police to close streets so that people can run in the streets We don't have to do that here. We could have an entire 5k run within this park So that the cost the thousands of dollars that they spend on on police escorts and that kind of thing could be eliminated And now of course we'd have to have other facilities to accommodate that we need to have Places for people who sit and watch we need to have places in the shade We need to have concessions and water and that type of thing So there's a lot of support facilities that go along with any event like that And then the other great idea I thought was the whole idea of concerts and an amphitheater or Movies in the park bringing people together, you know utilizing the space as a weekend venue. So that'd be great This has really been exciting. Yeah, it's been a great night And and the other thing that I still can't get over is that it's not a think of ideas And then we'll go out and try to raise the money. It's a we have the money Exactly come to us with exactly unlike our first phase when we designed the dog park It was the first dog park in san Antonio because we wanted this to be a destination We wanted people to find this place and come here and realize Hey, I went over to the southwest side and I took my dog to a park And I didn't have a bad experience, you know Everything worked out great and I'm going to go back And so the dog park the disc golf all of those sorts of ideas were ideas to really draw from the entire region So now what can we do To build on that what can we do to make this a place that people drive from Drive fly come to hear from international destinations, you know We go we go to great cities and in other countries to see things Other people should be attracted to san Antonio to see the great things that we've got and that's such an exciting thing for the For the south side. Yeah, fantastic. It's really great. There we are south san Antonio isd headquarters here Larry, thank you so much for taking the time. I really appreciate it. Thanks