 Welcome back to the breakfast and plus CV Africa. Tunde Kuala Wali joins the conversation this morning as we look through the pages of a national dailies. Tunde, it's good to have you join us. Good morning, thank you. All right, good morning, thanks once again for being part of the show. Tunde Kuala Wali is a legal practitioner but we set off with a punch. The punch says in definite strike, federal government summons, varsity councils, vice-chancellors, as parents grumble. NUC meets pro-chancellors Tuesday to review action, reach consensus. Vice-president Yemosibarajor, APC governors, beg lecturers to end strike. Parents association says, ask you in concede rate. Ministers insist on no work, no pay. Lecturers deserve paid despite strike. That's what they ask the president to say. I mean, this is the right is dominating the banning caption this morning. 6,068 Nigerian doctors move to United Kingdom on their president, Mohammad Buhari. 6,068 doctors move to the United Kingdom under Buhari and 46 billionaire debt and CAA threatens to withdraw airlines license. Oil earnings drop by 29% to 790 billionaires, that's according to the central bank of Nigeria. Federal government projects 120 trillion as three-year consumption expenditure. Ami Kheel's terrorist arrests three suspects in Kaduna, appeal court nullifies 20 billion damages, heads to Supreme Court, that's Igboho. Hoodlums invades Lagos communities and rob residents, victims lament. Undergraduate lovers dies in quarry, collapses or corpses found naked. 2,068 Jonathan's support, APC denies internal rifts. These are the headlines you find this morning on The Punch News People. Away from The Punch, we have the leadership. As a strike, federal government summons pro-chancellors, VCs, APC governors back union. It's getting very interesting. Federal government moves to a red agony of subsidy and fuel importation next year. I like how all of the statements are put out. The class war on oil thieves. Commission nine gone boat, NNPC defends surveillance as a contract to private firms alleges involvement of churches. Marks security agencies in crude thefts provide evidence, go after corporates and religious leader reply. I won't interfere in 2023 elections. President Muhammad Buhari assures Nigerians. Crocker turned 70 today, plans 200 million leadership center. Many trapped as multi-storey building collapses in Canoe market. And just before we move away from the leadership, you find alleged organ harvesting, Uqpo issues, federal government, they query Madhu once caught other revests. NBS data reflect Nigeria's reality. These are the headlines on the leadership. We'll move away from the leadership and that's because we have the daily trust newspaper. Nigeria will stop importing oil by 2023. Carrie is quoted. Signs 28 supply deal with Dangote. Says churches, Marks involved in pipeline vandalism. And it means improved economy. That's what experts are saying. Reps uncovered 10 billion oil revenue fraud. 115 killed, 73,379 displaced as flood heat, 22 states in the FCT. And CCAA threatens to ground airlines over 24.3 billion hour debts. And CAA threatens to ground airlines over 24.3 billion hour debts. Many trapped for rescuers building collapses at Canoe market, 25,000 Nigerians missing, federal government ICRC. We need to act facts on as you strike the vice president is quoted to say. And 2023, Buhari meets governor says, Nigeria will appreciate APC in six months. We cannot wait. I mean, a lot of people say, what you haven't done in 80 years? What can you do in six months? Let's even say seven years really. Well, that's the much we can take on the daily trust newspaper. The nation says, Buhari to Nigerians, I wouldn't interfere in next year's poll. Vice president, Osiba challenges governors on economy, ASU strike, petrol importation to end June 2023. Reverse your decision and strike, federal government tells ASU. Minister insists all unions demands met. Vice chancellors, pro chancellors to meet Education Minister September the 6th and parents edges parties to resume talks. Again, you find no rift between Tunable and a demo over campaign council says APC. Well, that's what's been reported. Sunday, Buhari appeal court reverses 20 billion narrow damages against DSS. Well, these are the headlines we have this morning on the nation newspaper. Tunde Kola Wale joins the conversation. Thank you. Well, Tunde Kola Wale, let's get straight to it. Which of the headlines in trust years went through the pages for national dailies? Perhaps we should start there with just a fair after with reference to the minister for education. Mr. Jamua Jamu, you will remember that Mr. Jamua Jamu used to be a columnist for the name of the newspaper. And so many years ago, when ASU had similarly embarked on a very prolonged strike, Mr. Jamua Jamu had written the name of the newspaper that the ASU people should not call off their strike. And he enunciated a lot of reasons why ASU should not call off the strike. One of which was that the federal government, whether at the state level, I mean the government, whether at the state level, at the federal level, at the local government level, hadn't obtained enough attention to education. And because of their lack of attention, our developmental goals as a nation will be to protect. You also mentioned that these kinds of things are not working. So you begin to ask yourself, is Mr. Jamua Jamu in the past enjoyed ASU, not to call off his strike? Why do you think? Or why is it now that Mr. Jamua Jamu has in a change of heart? He's asking ASU to go back to work when all the things he had in the past advocated to become pro-ASU and done for education in Nigeria had never implemented or carried out by any of our governments? What? Sometimes power is an intoxicant. When you get them there, if you have talked to this way before, immediately you get into power and you begin to enjoy power. You begin to have a change of mind and begin to say different things. For the most, for now and later on, there is no way we can compare an unwilling employee to go back to work. It doesn't when he doesn't want to, to work. But when it's on strike. Strike is considered to be a fundamentalist which a worker are allowed by law to enjoy and to do. For me, I'm not to assume that this harassment, that this cajoling, this attempt to fund the end of ASU to the pro-counselor, the pre-counselor, clearance association and whatever. It is going to, I mean that it's going to work. The Nigerian federal government to sit down with ASU and then as much as possible, even if it is not holding, it has to, at least halfway with regards to the aspirants. Furthermore, you and I will remember that's not too long ago. All the following year, like I said, we're going to pull out of Nigeria, the course of the Nigerian government but the Nigerian nation was owing them. Law and the oath, the money that was set to be owed to this following year like I wanted to pull out. The federal government has been able to solve the money. I mean, the federal government has seen an enter bank has been able to solve the money and it's not going to make it available to the following year like so that they will continue their operations in Nigeria. Why is the federal government seeking the air line? And that's where education, which is more important in the country. The reason is not perfect. The air line is worth the energy positions and the work to do in the country cannot do without for the following year like to not have Nigeria. If you're going to have to reach Nigeria, you're going to have to have the political class or the budget class. So for them, that is more important than education. Tunde Kola Wale, let's also take a look at the leadership news before this morning. Okay, but maybe next before you go. Tunde Kola, I apologize for bugging you now slightly a bit under the weather. But I'd like to quickly ask you for your thoughts on what the nation needs to perhaps to say, particularly the Progressive Governors meeting with His Excellency, the President of the Federal Republic of Nigeria. Two points of note, the President said that he went into fair in the polls. And then secondly, he was noticeable that the Vice President wasn't a part of that meeting. The Progressive Governors had to go see the Vice President in his office and also commiserate with him following his surgery that he had for his leg. Are you, should we read any meaning into this? On the slide, you didn't quite get that. Okay, once again. Can I really repeat that, please? Yes, so the Progressive Governors Forum met with Mr. President yesterday as captured on the front page of the nation newspaper. And he said that he will not be interfering in the 2023 general elections. And some people are saying that they're not buying what he said. That's number one. Number two, at that meeting they had with him, the Vice President was noticeably absent, but the APC Governors paid him a visit after their meeting with Mr. President at his own office. Some people are reading some meaning into that. Should we read any meaning into this? That's a two-pronged question. And then Elias said that, since he apologized, he didn't hear from me now, a bit slightly under the weather. But please go on and then just give us your thoughts on that. Let me say this. The Vice President, as you know, the primary of this party has appeared to be a low-quant, so state activities and what have you. It's not impossible that this morning, or really from that crossing the street that was reached out to him, but he was the one that met the noble, and met Salotini, and met him. But without that this may, you won't come, you lose some. Politics is a game in which you don't expect to win all the time. So the President had better get back to business or to work. We still have about six or seven months before the government will hand over to another party. As regards the interference in the election, they're honestly speaking, there are so many ways by which a government can interfere in the integrity of an election. One, we have finished a little bit of effort on the part of Mr. President and the APC government. So, sent to INEC, or appointed into INEC, can't remember of their political party. Before the fight to do, was that of the legionary, who is the publicity secretary of Mr. President. He was recommended to be an INEC commissioner. The list of commissioner that has also been forwarded now to defend it, it has been alleged, contain some names of people who are sympathizers and carry members of the APC. The fact one was said to have contested the primary of the APC, the government's primary of the APC in the recent past, which he loved. So, if at the end of the day, such policies and small goods into INEC, chances are that they could be used to compromise the integrity of the election. And that is what the other Africa and some of the human rights organizations have been crying out at the Senate to get down on it. They gave the appointment of politicians and their sympathizers into the hierarchy of INEC. Another way by which government tries to compromise the integrity of the election is to use the security forces and also use the OOGLOM that we have all over the place to compromise the integrity of the election. All right, to Nicola Wale. As Mr. President says it loudly, that you will not interfere. In the outcome of the 2003 election, we must see in shifts that we should not, by preferential means, try to influence the integrity of the election. To Nicola Wale, let's move away from that discourse and look at the leadership newspaper and also the daily trust. Same issue, but different, you know, caption. Federal government moves to avert agony of subsidy and fuel importation next year. Nigeria will stop importing oil by 2023. That's how the daily trust newspaper captions it and the carry is quartered on that. And that's because Nigeria has signed like a 20-year supply deal with Dangote. That's according to the report. Also, this is also going to happen because there's expected to be some completion on the ongoing maintenance of the nation refineries and almost completed Dangote platform. So this is some of the yardstick. But I'd like you to share your thoughts on this development. Meet 2023, we will stop importation of, you know, fuel because we'll be able to meet our domestic demands and maybe, just maybe, we'll just be exporting without having any issues. Well, I doubt it. This is not the first time we'll be getting assurances with government that the importation of fuel will become a thing of the past. In fact, it's all now we were told that the Dangote refinery was going to be ready in the year 2022. The year is about to end and the feelers that are passionate captions from the Dangote angle is that that refinery may not be ready in the next three or four years. Simply because there is still a lot of work to be done on the refineries. And the resources to do the work are no longer forthcoming. The funds are net deep in debt. For by Dangote, for by the refinery, the CDN itself no longer has the money to support the Dangote refinery. You will recollect that the federal government had purchased 25% of the shareholding of Dangote refinery. The reason they did that was to help Mr. Dangote provide their money to complete the refinery. But in spite of the support from the CDN, they have to see a wide gap with regards to the resources that are required to complete the refineries. Simply because with the collapse of the value of Naila and then the rising political transition, the quantum of money that are now required to complete the refineries has changed dramatically. So where Mr. Dangote and the supporters will get the resources to complete the refineries before 2023 is still something or a mystery. Toon De Kala Wale, this postulation, Toon De Kala Wale. And then you're talking about the complication of the federal government refinery. You'll remember when the federal government were there to have their contract, I think it was in last year or late this year, the template that we were given that the refineries was repaired over a period of six years. And if they had just gone one or two years into this maintenance, how will it now be possible to complete the maintenance of Toon De Kala Wale in year 2033 and begin to have to the flow of wealth in the country? It's all up to me that something doesn't really turn in. There is a gap in between what we have been told and they put their complication date that we were given with regards to the turn around maintenance of those refineries. And I will say that if the turn around maintenance of those refineries are completed, what is the assurance that the Nigeria in their life who have always had that refinery will let it work when it is eventually completed? But immediately it is completed and it is working efficiently. They will no longer need to import wealth. And when they no longer need to import wealth, how will they be able to take money abroad to buy houses, to pay their children's coffins, and then leave the life of luxury that they have always lived in the fallen lands? I have a suspicion that the subsidy on Petrolon Podong will go on beyond 2023. I don't have, I am not to complain that the turn around maintenance of those refineries or the Telangoma refineries will be completed in for 2023. Furthermore, remember that the subsidy that we are also talking about is a phantom subsidy. In the past, the House of Representatives set up a panel to look into all the subsidies that were being paid to the different oil companies. And it was discovered. And the former CBN governor, Sanusi, had also made a starting revelation. So when the Nigeria in their life said they have imported 10 cargoes of wealth in reality, only two cargoes of wealth are coming. Where are they? We insist that it be paid for 10 cargoes of wealth that they are imported. What I'm drawing out is that we still don't have the least statistics as regards the subsidy that is being paid and the quantum of Petrolon Podong that are being imported into the wealth. That area is still opaque because the Nigeria in their life never put anything in the open because of their television trends. All right, to the color. Well, a story that has gripped the nation and not just Nigeria, but international media has been covering this particular story. It's something that has occurred over and over and again and a lot of people are asking, what do we need to do to make this not stop this from becoming or to prevent this from happening on the regular as it's been happening. I'm talking about building collapses. We just had one a couple of weeks ago in Lagos, if not a week ago. This time the Kano market collapses, the GSM market in Kano Metropolis on Beirut Road in Kano state. The public relations officer of Kano State Fire Service, Samino Abdulahi confirmed that seven people were rescued alive. But the national emergency management agency went further to say that one person is feared dead while seven were seriously injured. So what I thought on this Kano market building collapse as it concerns the general issue of collapsed buildings in Nigeria as captured in daily trust which says mainly trapped for rescued as building collapse is a Kano market. That's from daily trust, yeah. Like what has happened in Lagos and from other parts of the country, it is usually an outranking affair when it's building collapse. The loved ones are lost, the innocent people who have gone to look for their daily bread get buried in the rubble. And not like you have had. How can we put an end to this building collapse a problem that we have in our hands? Two, three things, the Mount Umbulo of Kenya, you go around the places and look at the kind of blocks that we use to build houses today. Those are not blocks in Mount Umbulo of Kenya. Some of them are softer than the loaf of bread. So also look at the high order that are used. When you look at the material that has been used for building corruption today because most of those things are now very expensive. The builders tend to maximize or kind of manage the material that they put into building construction. When they should probably use a 12 mm pipe or iron rod, they will go to this, they will go for this mm. When the bag of cement should make that up for 25 blocks, they use it to make up about 42 or 45. Look at the kind of sand too that are usually used to mold the block and to cement the plaster, the buildings. They are not the standard that doesn't make you to use. Furthermore, the authorities, the regulatory authorities that should make sure that the buildings meet all the specifications and standards when they are under construction. Do they perform their duties without letting them down or without making themselves a minimum of being compromised? The answer is no. So we are now in a colonial zone, not just with regards to the material that has been used to build housing, but also to the effective supervision and performance of the controlling authorities. Besides, if you will do your research to get a standard building approval, especially in an environment like Lakers, it's more than the kind of passing through the eye of the needle. The population has got two months and the money, the quantum of money that you require for secure building approval in a place like Lagos is prohibited. So too many times, people no longer go to the regulatory authorities, to the planning authorities, to the site-based people who really do what they should do. They no longer go to specialists to help them do the foundations of their buildings. They treat themselves with whatever literal experience that they have had. So we are in the catch-22 and it is not unexpected when the nation is corrupt, every person of his life will become rotten and when all persons of his life become rotten, everything in this nation, in the country or in the nation will be similarly affected. That is what we have in our hands. Education has collapsed. The buildings are collapsing. The hospitals are glorified clinics, brain drained all over the place. Well, we pray that countries have gotten their health in a similar nation so that we can begin to get it right once again. Well, we need to go right now. Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts on the issues on the front pages of our national dailies. We appreciate your time. Thanks for having me, ladies and gentlemen. Wish you a lovely week ahead of you. All right, and that's it. We take a break now, but just before then, we'll let you happen. Let's let you know what happened today in history being the 35th day in the month of August. Peace, ladies and gentlemen.