 So happy to be here with Sonya, one of my favorite people in the world and Sonya you're going to say you say that everybody. No, it's true. It's true. So, yeah, Sonya is in my one of my group coaching programs right now and so we're going to be talking with Sonya several times this year and hopefully you'll kind of see the progress of growth and different tips that you're going to learn from from from Sonya's progress each time. So without further ado, Sonya welcome and let's start with your intro. I know there's a story there that you might want to tell and but let's let's let's let's go there first. Okay, I'll start with the y'all start with the actual intro before I tear to shreds. I provide magical support support services to help people find direction or purpose. Boom, I said it. Nice. I can tear into it. I these these. This idea of introducing yourself with this really tiny little thing. It just feels so calculated and cold to me that I keep trying to find something that sounds authentic and real. And I feel like so much of the world has fallen into this place of like well I got to make up. I got to make a professional sounding language right, and I just want to say like, I do woos stuff to help people with their shit, but like, I can't put shit on Instagram. I can't, you know, I can't, I get zero and you know zero visibility if it's on Facebook like, like as soon as I start swearing. And you know, I just feel like there's such a, it's, it's been a thing for me for a long time and I think this is part of why your stuff appeals to me so much is just coming through authentically right like when I was in the business world and all these business languages started coming up in tech of people and it's like you know we already have words for that. We already have ways to say those things. Why are you making up new language to make yourself sound more impressive can we just talk about it authentically so that everybody actually understands what you're saying. And that's where most of my struggle is with trying to come up with these things is, is like, I just want to talk about it I don't want to have a concise perfect little container to put it in, but I recognize that I need that little to exist out in the, you know, in little blurbs that only give you so many letters. As a first step into your work. You know, because it's the front door into your, you know, your large home that has many rooms that you offer different things to different people. But the front door has to have some recognition. Oh, that's a front door I can enter there, I guess. And it's like everybody I feel like everybody's trying to make their front door look like the perfect sliding door on a on a business, you know, a very pretty business building a good analogy. Right. But like, I want the Hobbit door. Yeah, you know where there's vines and stuff, or like I want the sci fi door where it's like you're not exactly sure where the door is but you're going to find it and when you do you're really good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's that's such a great analogy because the front door to our business is made for and meant for our ideal clients, and it's also meant to repel maybe too strong. Yeah, but at least not repels good. Yeah, let the less ideal clients just walk on by. Yeah, you know, and and if your ideal client has no interest in walking into the big shiny business building like why are you trying to make the big shiny business building door, right, like, yeah. Yeah. And so that's, that's my struggle is like where's my Hobbit sci fi door, where's my secret door that isn't so secret that nobody knows there's a door. Right, exactly. Yeah. Well, so, so we're going to talk, I'm going to talk with you on this, these interviews several times during the during this year and so hopefully the audience can follow along your journey. Please feel free to look at the links. I'm just talking to the audience here. Look at the links below this video or this show notes, just to get, you know, access to Sony's content and kind of follow follow but we're going to talk about your current, you know, learnings and your progress and your priorities right now. So, why don't we start with, well, I know we're just we're just getting started in the group coaching program this year but you've been kind of around my content for a little while. I'd love to hear any progress you want to share what you've done thus far. Yeah, well the thing that stood out to me as I was kind of reviewing my life yesterday and your career is like, I, so what I'm noticing right now is there's really a push. There's a there's a conflict between wanting to, like, like how am I going to structure my business what's the structure that supports a sustaining business because I've had a lot of ups and downs I've had a lot of movement that you know starts that that get a little bit, you know, and there's a huge long trail of the usual like oh my business was me finding myself at first right there's that that whole history feels like it's recently wrapped up. Thank God I mean it never stops but also, you know I feel like I'm pulling up a little on that one. But right now the real push is like, especially being in your world of I have a very clear through my astrology and through readings I've had and through my own instincts and through just all these different and my own sort of life review making a very practical life review of recognizing that I don't deal with scheduling. I don't I don't follow schedules I create them and love them and then I never follow them. And so like, I've had this. These indications through a lot of my stuff of, I'm not supposed to do it that way I'm not supposed to create a schedule that I, you know, really work into and sit down with and but I'm also it's also not about like sort of this follow your fancy like it's not that it's, I know it's not that because as you said repeatedly that does not work. And so it's, I like that I like I like that phrase I haven't heard that before follow your fancy I don't know where that came from really catchy and I like it. Well, and the thing is, is that I think there's a big misunderstanding between following your intuition. Yeah, and following your like impulses those right different. Yeah, and if I am following my guides through my business there are plenty of days where I'm like, No, I don't want it I don't want to do, really, I don't want to do that and like. And so it's not about like, where do you feel like being today it's about like, it still has its own sort of structure that you have to work with. But it's not the same as trying to create blocks of time and so it's like I've got this one thing over here and then I've got my George, like system over here going oh but you should schedule and I'm just like, Oh no. So what it's really about is right now for me is trying to find how to follow this guided direction and going in 100% because I've been feeling it for a long time, like, like years at this point and when I do it. It all works out. You know, like, I had my business kind of like, slowly diminish. To the point of being almost nothing. A couple months ago, right before I discovered that my mom has massive memory issues and I needed to spend all of my time, moving my mom into my house. And so it's like, that I couldn't have planned that and then I was resisting that happening, but but I watched it, and I'm like something's coming and I felt that something was coming but I, I had hoped it was in my business. And it made a huge amount of space that I would have been a disaster if I had tried to do all of that while holding on to the amount of sort of in and out business that I had before. So it's like, well, I need to lean into trusting it. But that's super hard for me. Yeah, so, yeah, so I need to go in 100% and it's like it's I feel like a, I feel like a traitor in the George world of like, no, no, no, no, but I'm going to follow my intuition instead. Well, and I'll just come in here and say, I love rebels, as you probably know, because I myself am one. I love marketing space and a little bit into productivity. I talk, but, but I love rebels and I think of myself. I did this analogy just came to me, kind of like a, what do you call those? I just came back from vacations on the vacation brain. When you jump off a pool. What's that? What's I think diving boards diving board. Thank you. So I see myself, my teaching is a diving board because it has to be stiff enough where you can actually stand on it, but it has to be flexible enough where people can like jump and do their own thing and do their own bounces and things like that. So I, so in other words, yes, I want you to Sonya I want you to bounce against the diving board of my productivity teaching so that you can do your own flips and land really cool way that's all you can do. But I do feel like, like, we talked about this a little bit before like you're creating some kind of system structure might might we say that other people can probably benefit a lot from. Yeah, if they had the kind of clarity that you do as you develop this thing, because it's still a I mean, no matter what absolutely a system it's a ritual it's all of those things. And I think that it's like this urge that I've had to make it be scheduling blocks on a calendar. It's not about time. And that's, that's the part that is hard for me because I always, I always try to come back around to time, or, or, you know, there was, isn't there a word in Greek for time that's not calendar based but it's more opportunity based is there. Now, those of you watching below, please comment below there is a Greek word I studied this years and years ago. This was actually coming out of, I used to kind of study the Bible more than a lot more than I have now but, but yeah there is a word for like opportunity that's not calendar based. It's more like the, the some kind of yeah it's like, it's like destiny or like the rhythms of life or something like that kind of thing you're talking about that there, there wasn't there wasn't there was a time for your caretaking to start happening that that wasn't like, it's going to happen on September 1 or something like that no it's it's going to happen when it happens but you sensed into it. That was what's really cool about it. And I feel like that's, that's a system that I would love for you to develop and teach to like, because, because your woo is strong. You know, like your sense of that time, those opportunities that intuition that the rhythm that's coming into your life is probably stronger or more aligned more sensitive to it than a lot of people who think they're following their intuition. Yes, exactly. Yes, that's so much that's such a huge thing for me of like, we have what we think is our intuition that is often a blend of our intuition mixed in with shoulds and supposed to use and they kind of clash with each other. And it, and especially if you're also seeking like spiritual guidance from from whatever it is that's happening up there, like, because that can also have its own. Like, it's okay to have your spiritual guidance conflict with your own sense of direction, and you don't have to always take what they say and you also don't always have to listen to your I mean it's messy, it's messy. And so it's so important to start to figure out like, where are my shoulds and where are my have to use and how are they interfering with what I'm actually being given, because let me tell you, the idea of following my woo is so terrifying to me. And I've been trying to do it anyway, right, I'm just trying to do any way but I grew up as the science kid and the math kid and the like fuck spirituality that's ridiculous kid. I was 100% in that space. And so to have you say like my was strong I'm like well it can't be because I haven't been doing it long enough, or I don't have the history for it or I have too much doubt or all of that, you know, and so I just hit like 20 different topics at once but that's great. What were we talking about. No, no, no, no, it's exactly this. I mean we're talking about, well we're always talking about the authentic business and that's exactly what you're continuing to sense into and build and develop because. Okay, so. And so what I when you talk about like wanting me to like come up with this system or whatever that's really what I'm kind of hoping for out of this year is that I need to dive into it, I need to be all in, and either it will work. I'll be able to be like, hey, I developed the system and also I successfully rebelled, or it won't work. And I'll be like, Oh, okay, that didn't work the way I needed it to and I need to bring in these other pieces but now I know. Now you know from first hand experience. Absolutely, you do need to dive into it fully like I said I love rebels by myself and one, and I would never want someone to go. My guidance is leading me this way but George is saying this thing my guidance leading me this way I would be, I would be horrified if someone says, I'm going to follow George's guidance and not my own guidance. Yeah, because then you're not being, you're not being authentic, the authentic business, not being authentic to yourself. And like I said, I like playing what's that word it's the, it's the bouncing it's the, there's a particular word for again, vacation brains if someone hears it below, comment below like the word for someone who's kind of like the, the one who bounces off so that you can create your own authenticity. Yeah, I like being some now some people. I was just gonna say I think it's springboard right you want to springboard but yeah there's also another but like or or or like I guess I guess there was a maybe maybe I'm mixing words here but like in a in a in a drama, like there's there's like the the enemy or there's like the, there's like a person protagonist has to have a, what do you call an antagonist antagonist or has to have someone that makes a protagonist go on the journey and become strong. You need your, you need your Gandalf, which you like you want you want people you want to be that you're that's this is why we connect because I'm in that same space. Yeah, so so so long story short, I'm really because what when when you do come up with your system, or at least your deep learnings based on your experiences. It's going to be so helpful for all of my job for productivity people as well. So, okay. Well, and I just want to, I want to, I really want to emphasize what you just said to because I think it's so important that people get into these spaces of learning places where they have their leader, and they get really stuck and I see it sometimes in the group where where somebody gets really stuck on like but George said this, but I'm not good at that and it's like, that's so important to allow space for that's one of the reasons why I've heard you and I think it's so important to really bring in to this space of like, this is my teaching and use it to go bounce into your own space whatever that bounce word is. Right. Yeah, which which may go seem to go against my teaching but I am one human being, you know, so had some experiences, I know 0.00 can, there cannot be enough zeros, 1% of reality, you know, and it's like, it's like, like I said, I sometimes sound really certain and persuasive, because I want to challenge people to listen to their own intuition, then go, does that, does that feel right, or does that feel off, and I want to do my own thing. Great. That means you're going to expand all of our knowledge together, because you might, you know, Sonya, you know, you might come up with a system where it's better than joyful productivity. Let's, let's, let me bring that forefront into. Or it's different, right. It's different. It's for different people and if you're, if you're this kind of person, you should absolutely use Sonya system and, and they'll probably need to borrow parts of it. But, but, okay, so this is, this is really great and I can't believe our time is, is coming to a close. I want to do. Yeah, no, it's great. I love it. I love it. I want to, I want to make sure we cover a couple things one is of course I want to, I want you to tell people about your work a little bit more than just your one line intro earlier, but I also want to hear what your priorities are that we can check in on in our next interview with you. Yeah. My priorities are absolutely to have just really stuck with this ritual this morning, because when it's it's in the morning, it's all about if my if I have constructed the beginning of my day where I check in with my guides and I chat with them and find out what's up. The rest of the day has its own path. And, and that's the thing I need to do that all the time because when I'm just doing it a little bit here and there it's, it's scattered. I've also just recently worked on getting really organized in the last like week, it's been like, get my stuff together get things automated get my processes a little more tech or automated because it was very manual before and I was really annoyed. Because I'm tech enough that I really need it to be like a little more, you know, functional. So I just finished that literally last night where I had everything I have, you know, people can purchase and it's going to automatically go into notion and then notions make tickets for me and I got it so I'm excited to use that. So using that. Um, so it's really about checking in every day and and following having faith. It's about having faith for me consistently or leaning into that that's what I'm trying to work on. And as far as what I offer. You know, I really, I really before you go and I just have to say that is awesome. Like, like that that that should quote unquote be the priority for all of us right like we need more faith in our higher selves to guide us and like to become more sensitive to that and to and to follow that guide. I've been super programmed in this society to to be to be really like science based and and I bought in 100% and I still do in a lot of ways which makes it makes it tricky but that's its own conversation. Um, so a lot of what I try to offer is like a grounded we've talked about this having a grounded practical balance between spiritual and I think this is part of the problem is that is that people take off with spiritual stuff into like, what are you talking about, you know, and they just disappear into a new zone that is left behind this existence here on earth. So, having this spirituality that connects us to our experience. And so I work with guides I have tons of guides who I actually talked to and you know that's something that can be practiced and I firmly believe that everybody can do it. Like, when I started, like, I would get like, and I was like, well I heard, okay, great, I'll write that down. Manageable for everybody. Maybe it means something profound and some other. It probably does. I was actually, yeah, I probably was like, hey, you know, your language you need to tone it down a little. So, guide work and tarot and like divination and actual spell work, like working with physical tools we have a lot of language right now that says we should be able to do it all in our minds. And I'm like, no, no, no, no, we are here. We have tools we have physical existence and we have these physical things that help. And so why not use them like you don't want to do calculus without a calculator it's just not as fun. So let's also do spirituality with these physical tools that we have around us so I do lots of physical magic. And it's all really fun and it's always about helping people get clear and get either sense of direction or purpose usually those two things. Like you kind of need to get purpose kind of happens first and then your direction is like whoa what happens you know I'm still struggling to understand my purpose, or they already have purpose and they're not trying to focus on that they're like I just don't know how to go in that direction so I'm usually helping people with one or the other. I think there's a lot more about that so give me maybe a little imaginary story of an ideal client who is struggling with something. Which one. Yeah, let's let's let's do one of each how's that. Okay, so if somebody is struggling with direction. Well, I'm going to use myself because it's really easy, which is, which is that I knew I well. Okay, so actually I can be both because I knew there was a point where I felt like I didn't have direction and what I used to describe was. I know there's a path and I'm supposed to be on it, and I can't even see it right now and it just pissed me off I was so angry. Yeah, and I was like it's like, I'm this light, I have this light that's going out going where, where's the path, I can't see it. And so I was in my job and I'm just plugging away and it was very dull. And then I'd get little glimpses from my work of like oh I've, I really enjoyed that conversation with somebody and oh wow that was really intuitive like I really something really interesting happened there that I. So I started to get these glimpses right I needed some kind of sense of where is the path in my world I don't even know where it is. And then as I started to get into I you know found discovered like coaching as an idea. And as I started working with that I figured out through multiple people who were spiritual helpers to me. I started to learn how much spirituality I wanted to have involved in my work right and that became understanding direction. So, yeah, I'm sorry I understand the purpose. So that it's just kind of back and forth between those two. And I think. Briefly can you just can you because you're using these two terms purpose and direction. It sounds to me like you're making this important distinction between the two can you distinguish that just briefly here. Why am I making a distinction between those two. No, I think I think that I know I feel it but I'm realizing I'm intuiting the distinction, but I just want you to articulate it if it's possible to maybe it's not yet possible. Okay, so I think part of it is that purpose feels like it's your values and it's it's your and sometimes, especially when you're not working in it yet it feels like it's over there out somewhere else and but it's it's it feels sort of like a destination. Yeah, okay. Right. And the direction is like, well, how do I get there because it's not a straight line it's like yeah it's over there that doesn't work you don't get to just jump to it. And so direction is like well right now I need to go this way and then I need to go that way. So in business direction is the path. Right in business language sounds to me like vision versus strategy or something like that. Yeah, the vision of a business is like. Yeah, and those words just make me like. So yes, we were coming up with more more woo friendly language or more authentic language perhaps to oneself so yeah no thank you because a lot of the time people say I feel like I understand this about myself, but I don't know where to go now what do I do with it and that's That's part of what you do is the absolute you love I just I clear away a lot of that and all of a sudden they come out of these sessions are like, Oh, I need to do this I need to do that now. Now just clear like what aspect of strategy or direction can you help with because I because well personally, I know how tech savvy you are. And I know how business and marketing savvy you are as well. No, you are you are savvy on all of these things. I know. So, when you work on direction, what kind of work are you is happening there. I mean it's mostly yeah it's mostly career and business. Yep. Yeah, guidance mostly because I'm not in the health and relationship fields like I just does and that's how it's like well then I guess that leaves me with career direction and yeah. Okay, that's very, that's very good. Well, to be continued. Yeah, looking forward to it. And I hope you okay so if you could summarize the commitment you're making for us to check in on in the next interview. I know putting you completely on the spot but no, no, it's good. How might you how might you summarize what we did what we can check in on. Um, it feels so stupidly simple but it really is like how'd you do with those morning. Yeah, guide check ins. Yep. And how's your faith looking like. Yeah, it's those two things. Awesome. Awesome. And how is that I guess manifesting in your. Yeah, days. And how is it like, how is it showing up in the business because I'm, I'm tired of the so I'm I mean there's always soul searching but like I'm done with the nose dive as far as my or the or the belly belly what do you call it a belly, belly staring or something. Yeah. And so I'm also like, how is it working right is it like functionally practically speaking right how is it showing up in the business and is it having an impact. Cool. Yeah, very good. So folks follow Sonya's journey. And just to be clear, pronounce your name for us just so that I could be validated. You've been doing it this whole time I was really I was like yes he did it right. It's Sonya. Yeah, so follow us. Yeah, follow our journey in the links below. We'll put whatever links you want to have there. And, you know, expect another interview in a couple of months. So, well, thank you so much Sonya for doing this.