 For more videos on people's struggles, please subscribe to our YouTube channel. Hello and welcome to People's Dispatch. Today we are joined by the Ayeshi Ghosh, or the president of Jawaharlal Nehru University Students' Union, which saw unabated violence on Sunday. So we'll talk to her about the whole violence and what should be the future course of action. So Ayeshi, my first question to you is when we are talking, we have seen that and in campuses across the country have seen violence. First we saw in Jami Amiliyah and Islamic University, then we saw in Aligarh Muslim University in Uttar Pradesh. Then we saw this brute violence in the heart of the capital. Now my question to you is how should we see this whole state of violence? See this new kind of pattern, it is clearly visible from the last one, two months we have been seeing that wherever which Indian campuses are coming out with voices of dissent against the policies of this government, there has been brutal attack on them, whether it's by the police, whether it's by outside people, Gundas getting into the university or by shifting the debates that are going in the Indian campuses about unemployment issues, about the divisive policies such as the Citizenship Act which recently came up or whether it's the question of fees in a university. Recently it was on a Sunday when we got to know that in Jami Amiliyah Islamiyah we saw brutal attack. Police entered the campus, fired tear gas, lathi charred students and they had to evict the hostel at the end of the day and that was the terrorizing images that we were getting from Jami Amiliyah where women were thrashed, students lost their hands in tear gas and all. So exactly something like that happened in JNU and now the context is why suddenly JNU? It's not a sudden thing, JNU I think so has been in the news in the past 70 days because of a reason. JNU from the 28th of October has been fighting for a cause that is the cause of our right to education, for free public education and exactly it was reaching a level when we were trying to tell and pressurize the administration that you have and now you have to have a dialogue because even the court is saying to end this log jam, to end this crisis you need to talk to the students and exactly on the 2nd of January I being the union representative the other three office bearers had also sent an official letter to the vice chancellor asking for a dialogue and we were supposed to have a meeting with the MHRD on the 6th with the MHRD secretary. So when all these things were happening and a call from JNU students union had already gone for boycott registration suddenly a framed organized attack happens on the students in within the campus where reports have also come that police has also largely charged some of the students who were returning from library later hours in the night. And we were witness to that violence. Yeah many of the media personals and journalists have been also saying that so exactly this is the horrendous situation that JNU today is facing that our university which is our home we are not feeling safe anymore in this university and why is the thing happening who is responsible the only responsible person is the JNU administration which includes which is headed by our vice chancellor Mr. Jagdish Kumar and I really want to say that he should accept that this is his failure that he has not been able to stop the violence perpetrated by outsider including people within the campus who have been involved in this whole framework. So actually the thing is came when we are talking about administration now we have reports in Indian newspapers which suggests that the chief doctor of the university was also involved in instigating this violence. Now this is quite serious given the fact that these people should have indeed taken action against the culprits. How do you see and you people have been accusing that administration has been facilitating this sort of violence. How do you see these reports? See certain WhatsApp images obviously I was in the hospital but later hours when I started next day taking late taking the media I saw that WhatsApp messages and screenshots coming out where people from the AVVP affiliated to the AVVP aware in a group which was trying having an planning and organized attack on the students in the campus and specifically targeting the left groups. So it clearly shows and one of them was a faculty from DU and one of them was our own chief proctor of the university and we know who the chief proctor he was the candidate from in the JNU students union election from the AVVP in 2004 and so we can't negate this fact and why I say this we can't negate this fact that an FIR has been done the what I have come to know as an FIR has been done on my name and the other JNU members. I want to know that how did this FIR happen when videos were circulated on the 4th of January those videos clearly had AVVP members instigating violence breaking hands of of union members one of them was Apeksha who is a council member of councilors and also of students level students from linguistic centers of masters whose leg was broken when such situations were happening why didn't the FIR have these AVVP activist name why is only the JNU people targeted in the FIR and we know that this is a biased way that the administration is moving that is what the JNU is saying that immediately we want an inquiry but before that what we want that for the situation which is horrific is the removal of the vice chancellor on immediate places as the chief proctor yeah obviously and whoever involved in this has to be removed right I see my it would be my last question and what I wish to ask is we are we are let's say listening we are seeing that couple of FIRs have been lodged let's say the police complaints have been lodged against you and other members right and this is unprecedented right we haven't seen this so why do you think that I mean these FIRs are particularly against the injured students and not otherwise see at this moment the JNU administration is continuously trying to somewhere shift the blame towards these students who were protesting from the last 70 days but we are very clear there was no such violence instigated by the JNU students union member and the JNU students union was continuously giving statements that in the campers we in the last 50 this is our 50th year of the university and we are continuously saying that the university stands for his democratic values and ethos and we should continuously focus on that we have led this movement successfully from the last 65 days and we know it how we have led it we went out we were brutally latte charged we came back we reorganized ourselves we again went out and we were clear about what we wanted we wanted the fee hike to be rolled back and that is what led the JNU administration desperate that they were not able to break the unity of the students and that is where they played it and we were telling students clearly that the administration will try to instigate violence to take advantage of this situation but we are very clear that this FIR has been framed just to malign the name of JNU today and we are not going to step an inch back and we are very clear about this because we are clear of the fact that we want the removal of the vice chancellor unconditionally immediately and the chief proctor who has been involved in all these attacks himself being in that WhatsApp group and also before an inquiry starts because if the vice chancellor is there they cannot be any kind of free and fair inquiry in this university I mean since we are talking I mean we have seen that JNU has been subject to this let us say scrutiny by the right wing propaganda for a long time right and let us say and when when we see this sort of propaganda right Indian Home Minister have also ordered an inquiry do you think that do you have trust in that inquiry see they suddenly have come out with enquiries but what the thing is that I want to ask the Delhi police was informed by the JNU students union I myself had texted the sh of the nearest police station that such incidents such kind of groups are already there in the campus why didn't the police take cognizance of the thing and take any step to intervene and ask the administration to take immediate precaution because the student representative have already informed them beforehand that such a thing is happening so now when the Home Ministry after such an attack has happened is suddenly coming and saying that an inquiry how do I believe that the inquiry will be fair why didn't the police Delhi police take an immediate step even not this incident to happen and instigate this violence when I was been taken out in an ambulance from the main gate the police told me why because an AVV activists were standing there and saying key like we didn't beat you up yesterday because you are saying this but you see what has happened it is exactly right what is happening to you they had the order city to say this in front of the police and my ambulance had to be taken from a different path so we can understand what is going on it is the clear nexus of the Delhi police who have been a mute spectator in all these things 24 hours passed the Delhi police couldn't even catch a single person couldn't even name a single person and what they are doing exactly is what the administration wants that JNU SU members are to be put behind the bus and exactly we are saying that these if i's are framed with a political agenda these if i's are been framed just to malign the name of JNU at this moment thank you Hashi for talking to us keep watching people stitch batch thank you for staying with us