 call you to triumph over every circumstance over every situation and we do that through the power of Jesus and through the power of the Holy Spirit and we are so glad that you're joining us on Hope Today. I'm here with Tom. It's just the two of us today and we're going to dive into a topic that is so important that everyone needs to understand what it does to us because there's deep down roots of this that happens in our lives and it's time for us to get unrooted from this. Well you mentioned the word triumph and we all love triumph don't we? I mean I love to go from the mountaintop to the mountaintop but life isn't like that and we experience trauma. Every family has really every person has experienced some form of trauma and you know time alone doesn't heal. I think so often we think well we'll just wait wait it out you know oh it's in the past. No sometimes those things can hang on to us and drag us down from where we need to be. Well Dr. Gregory Jantz is going to be with us. He's been here before one of our favorites. He's got three healing keys to trauma that we're going to talk about going to be setting us free from the things that are pulling us down. You know I'm so excited about this conversation because one thing is just walking through my own journey of trauma and going through the healing and the deliverance and the freedom. There's a lot of things that trauma is trapped in our bodies. Our minds will play these tricks on us. Sometimes we don't even realize we're walking out in these patterns or having these behaviors but it's so amazing that when you go and you walk through it with Jesus and you have a professional it's amazing. So I am just such a big proponent and such a big fan. I just love talking about this because I feel Tom there are so many people right now that are bound by trauma, don't know about trauma and especially in the body of Christ. We don't like to talk about it but it's so important and necessary that we do. I think it's so key wholeness is a key word here that we want to be whole. You know there's an engineering term about soundness. That means if there's a member in a building it's sound. It means there's no cracks, no breaks, no holes in it. It's completely sound and we want to have soundness in our own lives, Sidney, that we don't have those things. Look we've all got experiences where we say man I'm glad that's over but sometimes it's not over. It isn't over and you know post-traumatic stress and things like that but Sidney there's also just things that maybe happen to us way in the past that we still have that baggage kind of trailing us along. Well I say most of us have all some some type of trauma like there's like you know a different scale and I think it's important and one thing that I've even learned on my journey of healing that it is so important that it is a process and that you know sometimes I think in this culture that we want microwave healing. We want everything to be instantly healed and we just go maybe to this appointment a few times and we'll think we'll be okay. Through my own journey my own process I've learned it's been it's taken a lot of time but through Jesus and through therapy and through also community there's been so much healing that I've experienced in my life and I know it is our heart on this program. I know now more than ever here on Hope Today we've had these conversations because we truly want you to walk in the fullness of who you're called to be and to get unstuck and unrooted from those things that are keeping you trapped that are keeping you bound and so that's why we're really excited that we're having this conversation today. Absolutely well as we've been saying there are many devastating events that can cause trauma in a person's life and the aftermath of a traumatic event can cause depression, anxiety, addiction, panic attacks. Some of us have been there and more things like that which can affect a person for years or even a lifetime. Dr. Gregory L. Jance is our next guest and he says that hope is possible and can be found and in his new book Triumph Over Trauma he offers a unique personalized approach for individuals to find healing and wholeness from their past hurts. Dr. Jance it's great to have you back with us on Hope Today. Let me ask you let me start off by I think we're not hearing him. Let's see if we can get Dr. Jance cued up there again. Let me ask you again Dr. Jance just can you explain what trauma is for us? Maybe give us a definition because we've said it happens to so many people but maybe you can clarify that for us. Definition of trauma. We began to look at trauma and it is the new word by the way. We've come through the post pandemic. Well we seem to be having a little bit of a problem there. Sydney you know it's the kind of thing that we have seen many people come through recently that where we see that people have had to deal with this issue over and over again. Yeah definitely with like trauma it's a situation that I know can be a very touching and a hard subject and there's a lot of symptoms that arise and I just even would share about my personal experience because I had to just even the past few years deal with my trauma that you know I've shared with many of you and just even on the show that I came through sexual abuse and I was abused three times by three different people as a child and I had to work through those things and one thing that God spoke to me very specifically is that I needed to get an expert. I needed to get somebody to help me to walk through this and maybe I know there's a lot of you that can identify with what I've walked through being sexually abused or raped or molestation. There's so many different things and what I learned Tom through that experience is going to my therapist who happened. God told me to go to an expert because she's a she's a Christian and has helped me walk through it. I had a community of people by my side and also the power of the Holy Spirit and let me tell you there were some really really hard moments. I think one of the biggest misconceptions about going through trauma is that sometimes it's actually hard when you start walking through that healing. It can be really painful it can be very hard. There was just some really hard times where it felt worse. I was like why am I even going through this right now because God was just has to pull out all those things deal with all the mindsets and the things that we're going through and so I know for me my personal walk with trauma this is like one of my favorite things to just talk about because I've seen such freedom in my life mindsets that I had things that I was operating in I had to go through deliverance. I mean God had to walk me through and set me free where I look at myself now and I just see a whole new person that I think and that's what we really we want for you today but it is a journey and is a process. Absolutely and God wants that for you today. You know the reason we do these programs is because we know that there's healing. We know that there is truth that that God wants to bring that healing in your life. I think we have Dr. Jantz again. Dr. Jantz are you there? Hopefully you can hear me. Yes well let's let's go back to what I ask you what is trauma really and what are we seeing it how we see it manifest in people's lives. Yes and let me say such an important topic that we have today and when you look at trauma trauma can encompass a lot of things sometimes it's a one-time event other times it's multiple events is what city shared as we look at trauma we understand and all of us experience things in different ways it could have been and trauma is something that is overwhelming it overwhelms our physical senses it overwhelms us essentially it's like we designed for that intensity of the trauma you could have witnessed something that was very traumatic an accident natural disaster it could be abuse it could be sexual abuse it could be emotional abuse repeated traumas in our life begin to shape how we see ourselves begin to shape our identity that the fact that I had started off by saying that time alone is not the thing because people think that a lot of times well it's way in the past the time alone is not the healer for this I'm alone here what happens I have a dramatic event or multiple events in my life let's just say of abuse as I have had these events if I tuck it away I decide I'm not going to ever talk about it I'm not going to deal with it that actually has a way and it's it's a little hard to understand at first but it's a way of growth inside us that becomes a very toxic emotion we may discover me I really just I really struggle with depression or I struggle having appropriate healthy relationships or maybe I'm struggling with addiction in some way in some way as a human being we will look for a way cope with with trauma what's that sound like what could it could look like Shen it could look like a pattern of unrelationship so we have to look at what am I going to do so that I can live by God's design for me you know one of the truth is it does not have to be the predictor of my future trauma doesn't identify who you are it doesn't take away from who God designed mind you be right you know you mentioned in the book you mentioned three healing keys and I think it might be important for us to bring those up right here in the beginning of the interview what what are those three keys oh one of the key the keys we need to look at is really is really and we're seeing more we just say we are seeing uh really a mental health uh pandemic going on people people are seeking help trauma is a very real real and a very very big issue what does that look like well it looks looks like I gotta deal with reality that's a healing key I really do have to deal with I can't get away I can't pretend it didn't happen but I have to deal with it somewhere along my healing process I have to make a decision in our forgiveness sometimes it's for giving abuser signs it's for giving ourselves but I have to make a decision around how am I going to discover and integrate great freaks in my life life well let me ask you about faith and how faith in God plays into this because people will address it from a more secular point of view and and some of that can be okay but when as Christians we know that God is working in our life so how does faith enter in faith is a key ingredient to our healing you may you may feel um because of trauma you may feel the shame you may feel that there's something something really wrong with you you may feel feel that there is a defective sense of who I am you may feel because of trauma that God God doesn't love you and so this is why I I say really healing from trauma long term we'll call it so sustained healing really we need to allow an intervention of the Holy Spirit an intervention of God into our life because some of this has so much been who we are and we've we've got to look at faith we've got willing to go okay this has happened to me but it's not God's design it doesn't rob who I was made to be and what was intended for evil right can turn around and make good and then that's what I leave with trauma trauma well let me ask you about some practical ways I mean you mentioned rewiring your brain in the book how is that how do we really do that what are the things that contribute to us being able to rewire those things that we've kind of those neural pathways we've felt for so long how do we rewire that well there is some very interesting brain sense that's uh where we look at and we can look at what's called a spec scan of the brain and for somebody who's had a lot of trauma we can we can see as the brain brain that were affected predicted the developing brain during those years 10 17 years old and up to around 25 for many the brain is still growing and developing so so a lot of trauma will affect the brain so here here's what's really powerful beginning to put the truth in the name beginning to practice healing gratitude beginning there's something powerful when I when I get praise and I begin uh it's gratitude in my life over time we watch this is one of the factors and and also fitness one of the factors that begin against to help us it will rewire parts of the brain that have been affected god god makes uh more resilient than we ever imagined absolutely and unfortunately because of the the audio we're going to have to cut the the conversation short but the book is called triumph over trauma dr jance we will have to have you back again real soon and we can go over more of this uh but we're going to take a break now thank you so much for being with us today and uh for our viewers sorry about the the audio there sometimes things are out of our control but we will uh have dr jance back again sometime but uh we are going to take a break when we come back we will have a scripture and some ministry for you hey cid i love your cornerstone television t-shirt where'd you get it i am so glad that you asked you know this is an exclusive offer for the month of june for you to receive this one-of-a-kind c tv n t-shirt you can support and support your favorite christian television network this summer when you go to barbecues hanging out with family and having tons of fun oh man that is so much 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so much is happening that when you help to give to cornerstone you know we just had good friends of ours on the program earlier doug adab tony a couple days ago and so many people on facebook said hey we saw you we we punched we punched up the link on youtube and we so we're seeing so much effectiveness through those types of social media platforms and we're just so thankful for you that you have come alongside of us and are helping us to bring that gospel and bring that store the stories of healing and the stories of truth and the stories of god's love to so many people and you know one thing even i know we're talking about god's love and healing it's something that i know this is shifting in a different direction but god is dropping in my spirit right now and if you're sticking with this you've probably seen on the news about the sub the submarine that's like right now there's a desperate search missions that's going on and i just feel like let's just take a moment and to pray for the five people that are on there i mean i can't even imagine being 14 000 feet under the sea we don't know what's going on but i know it's a dire situation so tom do you want to pray real quick for them father we uh ask lord that you would perform a miracle and bring these people back to us lord i pray father that they would find them that they would be able to bring them back up to the surface lord and that they would be all right lord we ask for a mighty god to perform a mighty miracle today and we ask you the name of jesus that you would do this and glorify your name i pray for these uh ones to be rescued and these ones to be brought back to the surface and that they would give testimony to your miracle working power in jesus name amen amen i know there's power when we pray together in unity and you know speaking about being like sometimes i feel like a lot of us or can be feel like that situation of feeling so deep within our pain so deep within our trauma and you know we just want to encourage you today we know we had to wrap up our conversation with dr jane's unfortunately because of technical difficulties but we do want to take a moment to talk about trauma and i just want to share with you because i know there's so many of you why no one we're walking out say we're in the grocery store we're out in the park you come up or you see you come to us i'm asking for prayer we love on you and we just want to say that we see you we see you and it is our deepest heart felt things to do here at cornerstone television network here on hope today is to give you hope and you know i've heard recently that you know sometimes hardship and hope go hand in hand and that's sometimes a hard pill to swallow but can i tell you that is somebody who has trauma that i was diagnosed at one time with ptsd because of what i went through as a young girl the things that i faced that really kept me trapped in bound and i didn't even know it for years that i was living and walking in these patterns and these mindsets and it was through the power of the holy spirit it was through community it was through getting help that god helped me to get unstuck from those things unstuck from those mindsets unstuck from those patterns and i truly believe that god right now is really highlighting trauma because so many people are living in it and you're not truly living in the freedom that you're bound by mindsets you don't even understand it you don't even realize it that there's demonic oppression that doors may have been open when you were a young child that got in and today is the day that god wants to set you free from that pit you free from the darkness and so we just declare a decree today whatever you've been walking through if you are like me and you are a survivor of sexual trauma if you're a survivor of abuse maybe it was emotional abuse physical abuse domestic abuse we are here for you and we just speak right now that there would be peace over your mind and that jesus we just pray right now that you would come into their hearts we know lord god that you are the god of the broken hearted that you are heal the hope and broken hearted and you bind their wounds and father god in the mighty name in jesus i pray right now that people would know you as your that you are your their defender that you are beside them that you are walking next to them oh god and lord jesus we just pray holy spirit that you would just sit and come into the rooms and the houses and the couches and the bedrooms and the hospital rooms of people that have been so bound by trauma that have been so bound by pain and lord jesus we just declare a decree that this is their day of deliverance because god you say in your word that you would sing songs of deliverance over them and so we speak that over you today as you were praying sydney i just saw a picture of a person your heart was been broken okay and and that's like you say oh well yeah we all had our heart broken puppy love and everything no but this is something that is a deep breaking where your heart is like in pieces and they've never been able to put it back together you know it's never you've never felt like it's been back together since that heart broken time so god speaking to you today that he can take every one of those pieces he could create a new heart he even says in the scriptures i'll give them a new heart in a new way so god's doing that for you right now so trust in that look the the the the holy spirit's kind of thrown our whole format today off to the wind here and we're doing things on the fly as god is leading us and that's one of the things god is leading us that he wants you to know that he's healing your heart today he's going to pick up every piece there's not going to be anything missing it's going to be sound it's going to be solid it's going to be whole and so god trusting god for you right now and believe that god wants to do that for you and no matter what you've been through no matter where what kind of everything that you've been through in the past god says i can heal that you know tom and you're just saying that just reminded me of something a friend like i was in church years ago and i was going through a really bad breakup with the guy that i was like that's a long whole other different story but what i want to get to the point is that's another show that's a whole other different show okay but the one thing like i remember she told me about was this is art form called kinsuji when it's these pottery pieces that they're intentionally broken but there's gold and silver lacquer that puts them together again and we just believe that today that that's what god is doing to your heart that maybe your heart has been shattered because of a relationship or shattered because of a marriage or shattered because of a bad business deal or shattered because of whatever trauma whatever is going on in your life i just can see that the hand of god is going amongst your pottery amongst those broken pieces and he's putting them back together again that he's using his finger to seal it with the holy spirit so just receive that today if that is you today and you're like i am those broken pieces of pottery and i just feel like i don't know how i'm going to get back up again guess what just lay down your life to jesus sometimes we try to take on things upon us i know i do it i'm the controlling it feels like i want to fix everything and put everything back together but there's sometimes that god is like lay the broken pieces before me because i make beauty out of ashes he restores he rebuilds he's a redeemer that's the business of what he does he's a resurrecting god that he resurrects dead and broken things and if that's you today give us a call at our prayer line because we would love to pray with you we have prayer partners that are standing by and you can give us a call at 888-665-4483 we are always here for you no matter what you're going through that is so good sydney and i think that one of just to put some practical things on this that by all means if you're going through a tough time or if you're struggling with trauma and things by all means have your friends your your your close brothers and sisters in christ have them pray for you by all means have your pastor you know give you biblical encouragement by all means i never want to put those down as less than than than they are there are wonderful things in our lives but sometimes we need a professional counselor to unpack what's gone on inside of us i've received professional counseling sydney i know you have i'm a great believer in it i believe that it's time to unpack those things and not have them kind of just kind of hiding under there because that's sometimes we get we let them hide under there but a professional counselor can ask the right questions to kind of lead you down the path of unpacking those things so when you unpack it you see it it's like oh oh oh this is why i've been hurting in this area for so long then god says i then he rushes in like when we realize god rushes in to say this is where i've been wanting to heal you all this time oh yes we are such a big like i'm so glad that you shared that because that has been such a big part of my life is just my therapist like she is a wonderful woman and you know what i think there's no shame in going to get help i think a lot of times what stops us from getting help is that pride and that shame because we don't want anybody to know what we're walking through because oh i'm a christian i've been walking with the lord and i shouldn't be dealing with these problems no we're all walking through issues and god has called professionals to help to deep to pour into your spirit to help you get those roots and those tangled things out of you and so we just want to encourage you take there's so many men and women that are called to do this work as dr jance even alluded and said earlier that there's a mental health pandemic that is going on and we don't want you to fall to the wayside i know a lot of you maybe you're dealing with suicidal thoughts or you're just not you're feeling so hopeless in a way of escape but we're just here to tell you today if this is you and we believe one of you is watching today just hold on to this truth hold on to this word know that jesus is for you and he will bring people along your path god will he's you know one thing i've learned about healing is that you heal through community you cannot heal alone you cannot heal isolated and part of when you get your healing is allowing people to come in and to love you and to sit with you and to cry with you and to support you and to hold your head up there's been so many people in my life that have supported me and held me up when i felt completely broken and full of shame but today we want you to know that we're here for you and there's a lot of people around you that god has specifically assigned to you so just trust in him and believe in him and he will show you the way absolutely true and in this last minute or so of the program let me say if you don't know jesus christ if you've never come to that place you may know of him you may know what we're talking about but you've never experienced that relationship he is dying to have that relationship with you he is anxious he is wanting so much longing to have that relationship with you he came to the cross for you he loves you today so open that door of your life it's very simple you just say heavenly father i believe that jesus died for my sins come into my life be my lord and savior forgive me of my sins and i will follow you fill me with your holy spirit and heal me on the inside in jesus name when you do that when you come to that place you he rushes in and says i've got healing for you i've got wholeness for you i've got life for you it says that life was in him and this life was the light of men that is what god wants to do for you today 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