 Mae'r fideo yn ddiwedd i'r wneud o'r ffordd. Y ffordd ar y wneud yw'n gweithio'r cyfnod o'r ffordd o'r ffordd o'r newydd, ymgyrch o'r wneud, ymgyrch o'r stath, o'r ffordd o'r wneud. A oes o'n gweithio'r wneud o'r ffordd ar y wneud, yw'r link yn y dyfodol. Mae'r wneud o'r ffordd o'r wneud. Helo, rydyn ni'n imbryd i'r Facebook o'r ffordd o'r ffordd, y ffordd o'r wneud, upeth o'r ffordd o'r ffordd o'r ffordd o'r ffordd o'r ffordd o'r newydd yw'r gweithio'r wneud, o'r ffordd o'r ffordd o'r ffordd o'r wneud o'r ffordd o'r £52,000, gyda'r ap 공igol, o'r £62,000. First of all, to all tyfio ar gyfer hyn, atodnod na'n y cwment, mae'n cael ei ddim yn gweithio'n ddeithas. Felly, dych chi'n ei ddim yn ei ddim, roedd yn ychydig yn eu ddim. ac mae gennym ni'n gweinio'r gweinwch, felly byddwn ni'n gweinwch ei lwybeth ar y cwmhreifwyr, byddwn ni'n gweinwch ar y pwg yw'r gweinwch yw Aberton yn 52,000. Felly, rydw i'n mynd, rydw i'n gweinwch, rydw i'n gweinwch ar y cwmhreifwyr. A rydw i'n gweinwch, yw'r gweinwch, Clouse, roedd yn ei ddynmar, roedd yn gweinwch. Dwi'n gweinwch ar y teis. Bars, what are your thoughts? What are your thoughts on Everton announcing 52,000? Yeah, but listen, the initial thing is disappointing, it's just that the number, because the number is the first thing you hear. Obviously, we're still without any kind of images, we don't know what it'll look like. But like we said on the reaction video, there's the opportunity of future proofing in there, they're going to future proof too of the stands with rail shitting, and if them laws change, which there's a lot of clubs pushing for them to change now, and I think they will, then it means our capacity on day one might actually be closer to 57, 58,000 rather than 52, and then we've got the ability to then go to 62 should the demand be there. Klaus says 52 seems small, Christopher Duncan says good starting point, but it can increase. Hayden says 52 is great, Adrian says 52K and the ability to rise over 60 is good. Pip says 52 is a good starting point, as long as we can increase it. Billy says I am happy, let's not forget we are taking a big leap to make this move away, so let's enjoy the positives news and make the next leap once we get there, great news. So straight away, I mean it's not like Facebook to be positive, but people on Facebook seem very positive. Roger Armstrong from Everton Business Matters says it's a betrayal of the fans by the board, he said he got no faith in us just seeing his tweet then. I think that's probably a little bit needy achy, if I'm honest. I accept it's disappointing and disappointed because I thought realistically as much as above 60 sounds great, I thought realistically it'd be 55 with hopefully the opportunity to go above that and we've gone even under that. So the initial thing is for me, I think it's, I suppose it is all about the design and it's all like saying let's have 55, but the design, listen I'm the architect clearly, but we have to say that the design has to be 52 to get it to, do you know what I mean? You can't just say, and I'm being devil's advocate, you can't just say well you can have any number you want and that any number will be able to increase to another number. Surely there's constraints on how big you can create something from a starting point. I think where we are, look we could have gone to, stop you know, there was it, we've gone Crockstaff, Crockstaff it could have been at the, what's it called, Stone Cross area and we may potentially there we could have put a 70,000 seater stadium up there. There was a big pot of land, nothing on it. Potentially the stadium could be built now when they started or certainly up right, with 70,000 people there and people would have been going look at the size of us compared to other teams. However, we all front day one wanted Ramley Moore, we all wanted to be on the banks of the Royal Blue Mersey, close to the city. There's obviously we've been down there ourselves, it's a heritage site, it's the graded, you know, graded buildings there, the walls which the ground will be in. So there's obviously a constraint in terms of size on how we can design it but if you can future proof those stands which they are doing to encompass rail seating then that ability, people are hearing 52 like I did and just went 52. Whereas if that if there is that little change to the rule and all of a sudden day one is because we're talking four years away, five years away really 2023 we're talking because 2023 five years a long time. So in it needs to be obviously within about 18 months when they're building the thing. If that law's changed and then that gives us rail standing with a ratio of 1.5 or 1.15, whatever it is, all of a sudden that capacity can be bounced up. We might hit 56, 57,000 on day one. Colin Longmore says bar humbug too small why we surely need at least 55,000 which should have been 61, 87, 8. I just seen Alan Myers put something out on Twitter actually. I think it was a graphic that maybe Sky are using and it shows that with this ground we'd I think we'd be at the eighth highest capacity in the Premier League and that's the problem isn't it? Those images go round and automatically it's like you've got no ambition. Where would you be at 62? United at 70? It would be above Liverpool, it would be above Newcastle, I think it would be above Man City. So it would it would show you'd be in the top five, wouldn't you? Both shares as well. And above Arsenal. Telly Saddler says for me 55,000 more than enough, isn't it really? More than enough. Lou Horwitz says or Horwitz says by then hopefully we'll have a striker and some more debt we can get next month. I don't know how that relates to the stadium. Well, I think you'd probably say and let's not do shite of what we're actually here for which is to win football matches, not have a shite. Michael McGuire says it's a start, lad, loving the use of the lad. Steve Robinson says 52,000 shows a massive lack of ambition because that's the take away, isn't it? That's the headline, that's the big headline, 52,000. No one's going to be going as much as ever and try and push it, well it can go up to 62,000. People want 62,000 and it can go to 70,000. That's what people want, isn't it, in their minds and in the fantasy world of ever and that's what people actually want. Well it's a dick measuring contest, isn't it? No, we are live on Facebook. It's 20 to six bars. Richard measuring contest. Listen, like I've said at the very start, I'm disappointed there in 52, I am. You can't get away from that. Would I have been disappointed with 55 probably because we wanted the both 60 but there's a lot of factors going to it quite clearly. We said before on the reaction video, we've got 32,000 season ticket holders at the moment. We've got 10,000 on the waiting list. How much of that waiting list takes that up though? Realistically, a 10,000 on that waiting list all going to buy a season ticket? No, right, but if it... Rangol, Rangol, why are we, can I just come in here, why are we so, we're so hung up about this season ticket thing? Surely right, you can pull faces all you want but how many season ticket holders is there for? Pop 35. Less than Everton. Oh less than Everton. That's fact that you've got less than Everton. Right, shouldn't you be trying to sell tickets to... I'd like to know how many people are in that Everton club thing. Everton, yeah. Right, whatever it's called, it keeps on changing his name. I wonder how many people are in that. How many people, how many of them would buy tickets not... Rangol. You're throwing the expletives in them, I'm bringing it back down to you. No expletives, you said Richard. What about people who don't buy season tickets? What about people who buy tickets on a weekly because that's what they can afford? What about these things that we are going to get if we build a new stadium? The dreaded word, daytrippers, because they will come. Right, okay. But what I'm saying to you is, if you... I'm trying to say to you, if say 8,000 off the 10,000 on the waitlist bought the season tickets right and the 32,000 that I've got them now kept them, that's 40,000 out of 52,000, 3,000 away fans I think on, 43,000, there's still 9,000 tickets to shift. But that's what I want to know, I want to know how many Everton fans out there, right, are buying tickets off stop-up or buying tickets through... That's irrelevant because we can still only get 39,400 in the ground. No, that's what I'm talking about is we know what's on the waitlist but I'd like, I'd love to know the numbers on walk-ups and things like that because they add to a new ground. Okay, the numbers on walk-ups, quite clearly, are 4,000. No, no, no. What I'm saying is I want to know how many people are prepared to just buy a ticket. You might have loads. No, but we're consumed by this number of season tickets and people on waitlist, people can't all afford to buy season tickets. Right, so surely that would bump the number up if we knew what... So if you've built a stadium, so you'd build a 65,000-seater stadium, right, and I'm playing devil's advocate now, yeah, on the off chance that we might sell it once every three years because on that one day we might get 65,000, that's not how businesses work. I mean, you were watching a documentary about Sunderland how easily it can go to church. I would just like to know, I think people get consumed by these numbers. I'd just like to know what the other numbers are. I'm not African for anything. I don't know. It's a leap of faith, whatever you do. If you... Everything could suddenly be... Look at Man City, Man City having to bolt on parts of their ground all the time. Man United have had to do that. But why are they bolting it on, man? It doesn't seem like it sells out now. Because the reason is because they're trying to sell the posh seats more. Because to them it doesn't matter. Why? You could sell two tickets at £20 and sell one for £42. They want back £42 ticker or whatever. Do you know what I mean? That's... They want the away fans in the gods because... Okay, would you say 62,000 is enough for Everton? I'd say right now that would be enough for me. What do you think realistically now? If Everton continue on this trend or get marginally better, what do you think realistically would be Everton's average gate? I think we could pull in... If we got a little bit better. I think we could pull in probably about 55. Really? Yeah. But that's... Don't... But this is a... I don't. All right. But this is a stadium that's got to be around for 100 years. And football, the trajectory of football is going up. But of course it goes up and down. You know, it's... But what's weird about football at the moment is, it doesn't quite seem to match the environment. But it will eventually because if listening to the current trend in the country continues, people won't be able to afford to go on a match. Well, it depends, doesn't it? Because it depends how football reacts to that and where they get their money from. Football is now massively... It's... It uses obviously TV revenue and sponsor revenue, which all seems to be gambling and things like that. So it depends, doesn't it? Really is it? And also, it all depends on how much those extra seats cost as well. I think that's a massive thing. The club might turn around and say, well, you might have 10,000 seats that you may or may not sell. And you're shutting parts of the stadium. It's what those seats are worth here, isn't it? Obviously, listening, they've got experts who know more than me and you do. I'm just projecting... Well, maybe you don't. I'm just projecting what could happen. I was... You know, when I was going... When I was a young boy in the 80s, 10, 11, 12, never moving in leagues, right? The average attendance was like 34,000. Oh, yeah. And we were smashing everywhere. And yet we did get by Munich. I was there. We got 55,000 or 54,000. We were 54 in the Derby. 54 for the odd game when we beat Cubiata. When the lead the first time, it was 58,000. But there was also 31,000 there and 30,000 there in normal games. Well, of course. And that's why the club is so reliant on season tickets because you might get a game where your season ticket holders don't turn up, but they've bought the seats to its clusters as sold. Let's just get through some more of these comments. Steve Robinson says they told us 25 years ago that there was a potential to expand the park end, and we all know how that happened out. Peter Johnson, mate. Next. Paul Musto says, eight biggest capacity, ambition, really, question mark. Tom McBride says 52 is a good number with 10,000 waiting lists. It will be sold out every week. Lou Harwood says I would love a bigger vision of Godderson. Steak Wales says it's absolutely the right choice right now. The fact is the capacity to go to 62,000 goes to show the club no feel that the man will come and it will, don't want an atmosphere like the Yeti had. Steve Robinson says no ambition whatsoever. Danny Morgan says I think a lot of the fans just want it to be more than Anfield, to be honest. 52 is to start with it is enough. To be honest, I've said for ages, I'm not bothered by what the Yeti attendants is at Anfield because I just get the feel in that. If we were higher than Anfield, they'd just increase it. Yeah, but for a lot of people, they just want a bigger Anfield. I'm not even bothered about what it looks like. It's just a Richard measuring competition. Exactly, there you go. It's the, you know what, right? Christopher Duncan says think about it this way. Arsenal, Tottenham, West Hamlinman City are all around 60,000. Planning rules make it difficult to get bigger. Mark Hughes says good starting point, but it's good that they are looking at the bigger picture with the potential to go 62,000. William McGinnis says look at the Yeti had. They always have empty seats on Man City, the best team in the league. Barry Waters, no ambition at all from the club to take us forward and build for a good future with, we was going to build 55 at the Kings Dock, 1996, so why are we going backwards? Gary Davis, we would not sell out 60,000. Rob Morgan, a little underwhelming, but gives us room to grow. Roy Jones says, what the? Terry Henderson, irrespective of capacity, 52,000 will have the facility to stand to 65 without much cost. Gary Davis says depends on ticket prices, of course, of course it does. I mean, that's actually a really good point, because we're all sitting here talking about what we could get and what we couldn't get, but it does depend on ticket prices ever to sell out because the ticket prices are quite reasonable. Dylun Creece, when we go to the stadium, tune he said, and he will, there's no question about the Dylun Creece. So that Liverpool's increased just by building, you know, putting the all-hole punch there. So Dylun Creece, and then there's that, the people's wages increased the same now. You have to look at it, I've said this before, excuse me, I've said this before about, you know, when you, the owner of Orlando City, and I was talking to them when they were playing at the Citrus Bowl, and for a few games they were getting 63,000. They also, their average attendance for the first couple of years was like 44,000. They built a stadium for 25,000, and I asked them why, and he said, so that it sold out to everybody. That's the bit, their business plan is a, their business plan, especially in America, and especially a lot of sporting events in America, keep the attendance down so you can keep the ticket prices high, keep the demand, make it the hottest ticket in town. I don't think we've got the scope to do that, of course. We haven't, but what I'm trying is, they jump down, their attendance dropped almost 40,000 people with their own stadium. Ed, Armitage says, impossible to know exactly how this will pan out massively for faith for our club, projecting five to 10 years down the line as a guess on no obvious answer. Daraen Carter says, hi, gael, keep up the good work, Mary Christmas. Mary Christmas to you, Daraen. Mary Christmas, Daraen. Cain says, the same people buzz off how Juventus Stadium looks at the ones who are moaning about the capacity. Imagine a boss ground on the dock, steep stands, right by the pitch to generate atmosphere. We'll still have the best ground on the land by location. Swaith the capacity, even if it reaches 62,000. No, Cain, you know what, I was talking about this yesterday about Juventus's ground, funny enough. I asked, I was at a meeting and they were talking about how big the ground ought to be, and I said, you know what Juventus is, and no one knew, and it's 42,000, and it's boss. Now, I don't want it to be 42,000, but we've done a video on this, talking about the capacity. And my point was, if you had to have 55,000, and it was an amazing atmosphere, and we all loved it, and you could have 62,000, and everyone was like, it's dead in here, it's soulless. Even if you sold it out, it was soulless, and it was dead in it, you were miles from the pitch, which would you rather have? I'd rather have 55, with an amazing atmosphere, that's something that created an amazing atmosphere. I'd rather have that in 62,000, I've said that all along. I asked you before, would you rather have 39,5, because there's not 52, that's probably more, because people are, anyone who said, I understand if it was 45,000, go watch the point, I'd be right there, we've watched the point, but going from 39,000 to 52,000 is a big jump anyway. Isn't it? You know, and it's again, it's design, and we can go to 62 with the rail sheeting. Imagine, if this law gets changed and the rail sheeting comes in, the atmosphere, people just want to be in it, the atmosphere is going to be incredible. All the lids would get this done. And it's going to be amazing, and they'd make the noise, that's why you wait when you go away. No-one stops singing, people come to go, doesn't it? Cos that's there, and that's what it's about. Three balloons everywhere. Jason King says, if West Ham can sell out 55,000, so can we. Didn't they come out West Ham's after it's last year, it's 33,000? Age and tain, he's also put West Ham, I've applied to increase to 60,000, and that is a crap stadium for fans, as they say far from the action. And don't forget, West Ham don't own a stadium, and it cost them buttons to... Dysnau yng Nghymru, everyone's initial reaction going 52, it seems low, and it does. If it was 52, and that was it, right, then I'd accept everything that people are saying. I think what the club have done again now is, they've shot themselves in the photo thing a little bit here, because they've given us half the information in a way. They've said it can go to 62,000, and I mean very sort of, just a little bit, not really gives too much information how that can happen, I think. What about, yeah, what about this, right? What about if the club are playing a blinder? Well, we don't know, do we? No, we don't. So the club might be saying, bear with me. Bear with, the club might be saying, our plans generally to build a 52,000-seater stadium with the capacity, future-proofed with the capacity, that could go up to 62. But we're at this moment in time to the planners and to the UNESCO site and all that. We're just planning 52, because we've never had that amount of people in that area. We've got new transport links, blah, blah, blah. That might be able to get through planning permission quicker and easier than saying, we want a 60,000-plus stadium that pushes the boundaries of that grade, two-listed wall and all of that. I don't know, I'm just guessing. Maybe that's all part of it as well, is that if you plan for that, you can nudge that up if there's a change in the law. I'm quite satisfied, right, that evidence of building a stadium with two areas that potentially, well, are going to have rail seating in it, looks like, right? And the only kind of question mark is what the ratio is in that rail seating. And if that rail seating ratio changes and it will, because everyone will be pushing for this, yeah? If that ratio, Tottenham have got rail seating in theirs, haven't they? They've got the ability to have them. So, if that changes slightly and that pushes our capacity up immediately and makes this argument almost null and void. But unfortunately, today, the only number people will focus on rightly or wrongly is 52,000. That's fine. Dechlym Feolong makes a good point. Let's just get it built. Paul Musto says... Let me ask the question before you tell me what Paul says. What would you rather have 52,000 and a competitive team trying to win stuff and being up there in the mix or 62,000 and an eighth and ninth place team? Because at the end of the day, I don't go in and go look at this state. After you've been to Bramleymore half a dozen times, you're going to stop seeing what it looks like as a stadium. You just focus on the pitch. Paul Musto says... Did they really consider fans from the recent consultation? Don't know anyone who put forward 52,000. What did you guys put forward? To be honest, I didn't put anything forward because, and I've said this loads of times, I'm not an architect. I don't know how to build a football stadium. I don't know what the parameters are for the stadium. So, I honestly, I leave that to Dan Mice otherwise it would look like home as car. I put 60,000 plus on mine. That was what I put. There you go. There you go. I didn't put anything. That's fine. I just didn't see the largest answer to the question. I just didn't see the point. I just didn't see the point. But it just asked us a question that mattered. I put 60,000 plus because I thought, and you know, we might get that. We've got the capability to get it. When the worrying thing for me I texted my brother before and said, it's 52,000 to start and he just put shit and then I went, yeah, but it can go to 62 and you're like, all right, okay then. All right, but that's a bit better than that. This is what I'm saying. It's how you get the information across the people, isn't it? Cain again says winter with the Etude last week, that was souless. Yeah. We just keep it low and the atmosphere will sort itself out especially with the standing area. It's where the empty seats, it's going to be lost. There you go. Cain spot on. Absolutely. Agent A and he says more money in London to allow West Ham to fill their stadium. Many more tourists as well. Let's just forget about West Ham's stadium. Number one, they got it for nothing. Right? Number three, it's horrendous. It's horrendous and it never gets better. And this is what I'm talking about. That could be 90,000. They could sell it out every week and I'd still not want to go there. It's not a football stadium. It's never ever going to get any better. It's crapped in athletic stadiums. Christopher Duncan says planning application has not even been submitted and the statement said plans are subject to change. Edward Carew says less ambition than West Ham and Newcastle. Well, to be honest, West Ham... It's going to be bigger than Newcastle for a start. Honestly, it's not when we lower. It's a little bit lower. What's Newcastle's? 52,700. With nothing, with no scope. So the minute we do real seating, it's 58. Yeah, yeah, but I'm just saying. Don't worry about Newcastle, I've got no ambition. Stop worrying also about West Ham. Honestly, stop worrying about them. I'm not worried about everyone. Would you one day grant? That's what you want to ask yourself. West Ham fans, real West Ham fans, don't want their grant. They want the building grant. Sean Swann says 52,000, increasing if they demand is there makes sense. Matt Davies says happy to leave this in the safe professional hands of the club and Dan Mice. Michael Robinson. Michael Robinson, obviously ex Liverpool. And I think he's an agent as well isn't he? 39,000, 60,000 is too much, too soon. Yes, we have a big fan base for 52,000 is a good move especially, expanding up to 62. The grant is going to cost boost ease. If you need to take a step back and see the bigger picture, as long as it doesn't look like a big lean to stapler. One thing I would say is as well, right? And we've mentioned that a couple of times. And like obviously we've got Liverpool fans who are working here and they were all like buzzing their arm when the news came on. And we presented to the news with them backwards. We said, yeah, it's 62, it's 62. It's going to stand and so on. So it's going to be 62. And they were like, are you going to fill that? Like, but if we started by saying it's 52 with the, and we can go to 60, you give what they're going. I said 52, what's that? You can't win. If you want, if you make this out to be a Richard measuring competition, you can't win either way. If you say 62, they'll tell you we can't fill it. If you say 52, they'll laugh at you and go, are only 52, we get X amount of iPads more a week. So stop worrying about it like that. Stop worrying about what they think because you'll never, ever, ever, ever win. Because if we go, it's 56 till the next day they'll say we're having a 57. I'm going to ask them, the biggest. People do though. No, but it doesn't bother me if they have 90,000. What bothers me is that we're better. We start winning things and we get a better team and that's all. I'm bothered about that. Joe O' Riley says, staying in capacity won't and shouldn't affect team performance in my opinion. Baz, it's too busy. Joe, go see. In what way, Joe? I'd have gone 60,000 and this would rule out further building work. Paul Max says 52,000 is a good starting point. Happy Christmas to you both. Happy Christmas, Paul. Davey Heaton says 52,000 is very sensible for now. Man City can increase capacity and really full with a competitor team. 62 only if prices are kept down. Matthew Thompson says, a bit disappointed with the staying capacity but I suppose it makes sense to start with 52,000 which could rise to 62. If we have on pitch success in the very near future it will be increased very quickly. It's a sensible decision really to start with but first let's see let's see Bill first. Joe O'Keefe says, West Ham is a bigger team than Everton. I mean did you pull a cracker and it was that the Joe's in the middle of Joe? I mean Joe, Merry Christmas but not in any universe at any time nor in a million years going forward. Will West Ham ever even be on the same page as Everton but have a good Christmas. They are big in Liverpool or miles big in Liverpool. Gary Davis says imagine 18,000 fans in a 60,000 stadium when we played Barnsley in the Cup. You can't think like that. Why are people... Be good. Why are people where you're showing no... You'll have the choice of your seats. Why are people saying we're showing no ambition? I don't know. Juventus just built a stadium to only 40,000 but for Ronaldo they are not showing ambition. No, I agree with you Ronaldo. The Juventus point is slightly different because they are a world leader on the pitch and off the pitch and they were getting terrible. They moved to this stadium because obviously they were getting terrible attendances at their last stadium which was just a soulless ball. On things like the Cup I think what we've got to be very clever with you know you are... You're right Gary on what you're saying about the Cup if we only get 25,000 in a 60. Listen Spears had 30 odd thousand the other week, didn't he? 33,000 in the Premier League game at Wembley. In a Premier League game at Wembley. I think what you've got to do there is be very clever and say especially for a Cup game Never feel I've had 25,000 that I'm feeling? No I don't but what I'm saying is for something like that you've got to be clever and say we'll tell you what we'll do is we'll only open up the first two tiers and it's how it's built. No I know that's what I'm saying and maybe leave... We will talk about Atlanta in the MLS Oh don't start in the comments with West Ham thinking God couldn't cope with that to keep the comments coming on. Mae ffordd y diagum at the West Ham Just don't Em The nearly as big as Shaltham from West Ham nearly We will talk about Atlanta in the MLS MLS, not the MLS They moved into the American football ground they must say these Ben's stadiums are amazing stadium Atlanta Falcons They were only expecting to get there are a new team you were expecting to get maybe 35 maybe 50 or a push and the way the stadium is built it's round and it has this video screen all the way round and then there's another tier above it and they were like oh we'll just shut that tier down blacking it out and no one will see it and their demand has reached they're getting 75 pound every week but they had an initial idea and they do this in a lot of MLS grounds they're playing American football grounds is they'll just block a tier out at the top and blacking it off cameras never go up there anyway and you know I think that's what something an idea we could do for I think Wembley have done it haven't he? Wembley have done it for like for a cup game it's easier because obviously yeah but no you wouldn't expect to do that in the Premier League because people don't want this all over but for a league game and obviously if you keep the cup prices you know I think the linking games like 15 and 5 15 for me me laddus 5 me laddus 10 so you've got them concession prices people you know and people can afford it they'll go and it might be the opportunity in them games for other people to go who can't get there because it's more expensive for the league I don't know you're never going to know about the end of the day don't give me the no ambition shot because I'm just not having it no ambition far have my series for £250 million into the club already we've bought players we've broke our transfer I've heard so many times we've got a manager the director of football who we've paid a lot of money to get we're building a new stadium on the banks of the Royal Blue Mary the no ambition shot could run shaker 1987 to 2016 quite easily not now if you if you throw another round now then you're either very new to football or you just slept for 20 odd years because there was years that everything didn't show ambition we didn't show ambition when we were at our very best in my lifetime if I'm honest late 80s when we were dominating all certainly in the mix we didn't show ambition £300 grand I'll ensure that we wouldn't pay it that's no ambition not whether we get 52,000 or 55,000 and the real number here is 62,000 isn't it let's make it that everything you know the club will be proven right or wrong by the supporters quite simply yeah mone at the end of the day it's up to us to prove them wrong as fans Dave Walker says it's been dragged out too long just need to start going up now I think it will now Dave I think like I think what you've seen obviously haven't we in the last few in that mood it's a big bear on the front can't it can't have anything to do here can't it you can't in no you can't no I always want to drink it and this is gonna come off got some water I am trying to get it carry on sorry yeah we've seen it move forward haven't we in the last month now we've got a capacity the next thing we want is obviously we need some images we need some images and he wants the images come out it makes it that little bit real but listen if you're a blue nose and you sat there still omen an arn about this look at the steps that have been taken on this we someone mentioned Kingsdop before and it was the capacity was allegedly 50 you know it's gonna be 55,000 the best we got out of that was a fancy drawing end of don't Kirby was 52,000 and the main reason why people didn't really want to go it wasn't because it was 52 it was because it wasn't in the city and it looked like a fliggin lego building this one is everything we've wanted it's in the city it's in the heart of the city it's on the banks of the royal blue mersi it's gonna be 50,000 plus can go to 62,000 it's gonna have rail seating we're gonna get a noisy hostile section of editonians we're gonna have steep stands intimidating papers built football stadium right Matthew Barry says 52 is fine increased the capacity with success on the field Bryn Robert says would have gone for 55 to start going to 60 Joe good point when Dublin play acroparch which is 82 Ceter in the latter stages they only open up the bottom tier Lee Gray says gutted Roy says nice one Baz talking sense I just think we all want the same thing at the end of the day we want a big stadium full we want it swatch everything winning football but in Robert says I was going to go to someone it was 66,000 see there you go but times have changed there haven't any because you were probably there the same as me when we got they can set 8,000 for Coventry and 4,000 in the screen sport game against Norwich Graham Cass says I don't think you are more ambitious with 62,000 and 52,000 most fans couldn't tell a difference when they're there we need to be successful that's more important and that's why I said show the pitchers first spot on dad you've been texting them you're backing me up dad Gary Holmes says 52,000 is too small to start Dave Walker says best thing is the first thing you see will be the new blue lady taking pride of the place brim robertas thinks the rail stands will be behind the two goal stands well hopefully they will be yeah there you have it the news is out 52,000 to 62,000 big thanks for everyone watching big thanks if you got in touch with us in the comments and as you all say there's a video on youtube as well you want to check that out thanks for watching