 Good morning and welcome to run it back to shows left. So let's make this one not awful. We start now Good morning and welcome to run it back you guys, this is our penultimate show of the season So I will do my introduction stadium insider Shamsha Rania Chandler P. Eddie Gonzalez and Chandler The internet was in love with you yesterday, and I'm worried for your health. What uh, what is going on? I don't know, but I can get used to this Michelle. This is very very flattering day yesterday It was highlights. It was dunce. It was crossovers. I didn't know what to do with any of it, but here we are To get love I'm catching spades from old teammates and I was the best teammate he's ever had this is We're onto something talking about talking about me this much I don't know what it was, but I'm a little bit worried for you, but you know what we can get to that later We got lots of time. We want to what we want to show some more love to the nuggets as we prepare For the parade that you know, you'll get just super excited about but we want to look ahead. Here you go Those are co-favorites to repeat. Um, Milwaukee still in there because we're not giving up on them yet But if you had to name a roadblock Chandler, what would you think it would be that would keep this nugget team from moving forward and doing this thing again Well, I think health would be the biggest thing just to be able to keep Murray Yokic fully healthy obviously is a main priority to them, but and also free agency I don't think it's anything that they could do. I think other teams are going to now be chasing them other teams We're going to be now planning and prioritizing. How do we get? You know deep enough to contend with them How do we get enough bodies and big guys with enough fouls to be able to Manage a guy like Yokic in a playoff series You know, and so in the team right now the league is so deep you look across the board I love Milwaukee at those odds. I love Boston at those odds These teams have a lot to prove next year after having kind of a sub par mediocre Disappointing year. There's no there's never really there's no pressure to go back to back right like it's awesome teams have done it Denver has a chance to do that, but there's no pressure for them to go back to back There's there's pressure now on Boston. There's pressure on that duo and Joe Missoula Giannis is arguably the greatest player in the world. He has pressure next year With a new coach and and with chris middleton a year of healthy now I think there's a lot of deep really good teams So it's it's not just going to be easy for them to repeat But I definitely think if they stay healthy they resign guys like bruce brown and they just and they add a couple other pieces They're going to be right there, but I don't I don't feel like they have pressure to do it again. They There's a lot of teams that are going to be hunting them down next year though I think Chandler makes a great point health is going to be a big thing and just how do the how do they make their team better? I think bruce brown the most are going to be able to pay him I think around seven million dollars like he's going to be up for teams full mid-level exception with start set Over 12 million. So it's voting. I saw bruce brown said after After they won the the finals and how much he wants to be in denver But it's going to be a tough hill to climb to go and retain him and beyond that health for sure But you look across the western confed you expect phoenix to be better Memphis will see second half of the season if and when jaws back in the fold Sacramento you would expect them to take a jump as well Lakers lakers will always be their clippers if they keep this duo and they stay healthy in oklahoma city That's a team that i'm really looking at to take a jump as well Chet home coming back healthy another you were josh goody shake goes out xander So the western conference always going to be deep always going one interesting thing I've heard in the last few weeks that denver's trying to get in the first round and Going and drafting a guy. So it'll be curious to see they have a bunch of future picks Who they can trade to go get in the first round and next thursday's nba draft But this I spent time talking to nuggets officials during the finals spoke them once tim connelly took the minnesota job Even if everyone on the outside thinks they won't make it back to the finals or won't win at all You know kalin booth michael malone. They expect this team next year to win a championship So that was a good listing of the western conference teams eddie and i'm wondering if any of those stood out to you as far as the most Dangerous or the most threatening to this nuggets team moving forward I mean, I think you have the same teams you're worried about The issue that those teams have going forward the warriors the the lakers the suns The the pelicans who are seeming to Be willing to do some shuffling is the cap is going to be an issue for them The it's not as easy. It's not going to be as easy to collect max contract players And and gobble them together and create a super team now as it once was and you're going to need There's going to be a lot more stress and draft capital And I'm not surprised that the nuggets are trying to get back into the first round because they've drafted so well One thing I will say about bruce brown if they have to lose him for money reasons They obviously love christian brown and he can step into that role and then payton watson who Chandler mentioned yesterday It was a rookie for them this year. They have really high hopes for him going forward six eight He can score a little bit and if they can groom him to being another christian brown It won't hurt as much to lose bruce brown. I think they're in a great situation They have their guys locked up for the future going forward They have a team that they love obviously they have a team that makes sense And they have a team that they can afford as they go into deeper into the contracts of these guys It's going to be tough to catch up with them teams are going to have to get real creative this summer Yeah, I want to ask you. Oh, sorry go ahead. Chandler No, I agree with any but I got to say seven million a year Bruce brown is not going back for seven million a year. He deserves a lot more than that He has outplayed that and I think a team is going to go another contender that has more space Is going to go on offer him more than that But I do like the point that christian brown Has showed flashes in this postseason that he can kind of handle more of a load same thing payton watson I love him chomps is that they're trying to get up a draft So it's almost like they're preparing to lose bruce brown and There'll be a guy that they can go and get in free agency that can give similar production to bruce brown at seven million a year Versus, you know going up to that 12 to 15 million dollar range. So That's tough and that's going to be a hard loss, but there don't be guys to kind of replace him Oh, it's it's always hurtful when you hear that you're replaceable. I don't like that Look, I want to preface my next question by just saying I don't think this because I saw a lot of talking heads yesterday beating this narrative into the ground And I don't know about it But channeler there are people saying that the path the nuggets had to take to get to the finals And it wasn't that impressive a reminder They beat an eight seed a four seed a seven seed and then an eight seed again Do you think that that diminishes what they were able to accomplish at all? No, maybe they got the benefit of the doubt on on an easier path with some upsets and the heroics that the miami heat pulled off and Sure, it would have been different if maybe that seltax team or a milwaukee team, but That's out of their control, right? It's like when a team wins a national championship And they got to go through it one of these cinderella teams and march madness that doesn't diminish what they did They can they got to control what they can control The nuggets all season long were the best team in the western conference arguably in the mba So whatever whatever team whatever that they were that they drew Uh, that's out of their that's out of their jurisdiction and they have nothing to do with that But they handled i mean How much better do you want them to play they they lost one time in the finals? They sweep the lake or is it i don't i don't think that diminishes at all I just think it shows you that they're actually more mature and they never had any let downs You know assuming that they were heavy favorites in all these series They just handled it Whatever the job was the whatever the task was at hand they handled it professionally and they They approached it like we're gonna win this no matter what and that's what they did So you can't knock or take them away just because there were some upsets Yeah, look surprised guys the regular season it actually matters like getting seating actually matters home court Matters playing with continuity throughout the regular season all that stuff matters So to the victor go to spoils with this I can't believe people are saying this because going into the playoffs a lot of people said the lakers could beat them The suns could beat them people were exclaimed the timber wolves were a live dog if healthy If I was to give them one critique that would be that timber wolves were down a couple of their core guys Suns lost two starters in their series, but that's not their fault They it's not like they can help that and plus the nuggets have no injury sympathy for anybody They were they were dealing with they lost them all married for two straight playoff series. It's like, you know, those are the breaks I picked the suns to beat them I picked the lakers to beat them if they missed out on anybody it was the warriors And that's the warriors fault for losing to the lakers all the stuff that happened in the east The east is funny because we we said the same thing about the heat But they beat the two best teams in the east on the way to the to the finals So clearly they were better. They they had the chance they had the opportunity to lose those series and they did not lose them so Yo They beat who was there they they don't make the schedule It's up to the other teams to keep up with them and that lakers team I don't want to diminish that lakers team because that was a really good team And the nuggets just ran through them. So it's not like they beat a bunch of chumps They they beat everybody was in front of them and they beat them decisively Looking back at this at this season. We know I think we know now None of those other teams were better than the nuggets anyway Who maybe they missed out on the clippers, but we know the story of the clippers So everybody else they beat them fair and square is what it is I feel like we're giving so many benefits of the doubt to the teams that didn't accomplish what they were supposed to Do accomplish and then the nuggets are getting crushed because they beat the teams that beat the teams that people are claiming should have been there in the first Play it makes absolutely no sense And it's why we have playoffs and there have been people that I I respect in this business saying this yesterday that I was just sort of Open mouths listening to like this doesn't make any sense whatsoever, but here we are nuggets Enjoy everything you've earned it now. They got to learn some stuff shams. What do you think they'll learn from this title run? I mean, there's a lot that Jamal Murray I'm focused on him. We saw Nikola Yoke. He's got like no care of the world. He's thinking about the parade ending going back to his horses spending family time he's got another family event around august Time and so we'll see if he's gonna play for the serbian national team The feeble world cup as those teams start to get set as well for the olympic qualifiers, but To me Jamal Murray the way he was able to come back and be himself I keep I keep bringing bringing this up, but I saw this team in the bubble I saw how good they were going to be. I saw how good they were the upset they had against the clippers I really thought this this team if Jamal Murray doesn't cherish ACL missed the last two post seasons They could have had a championship earlier. They could have been in the finals earlier So if anything they got exactly I think what was meant for this team now Jamal Murray He got healthy. I think as the year went on in the playoffs. I think he was he was at his best I can't wait to see Jamal Murray next season healthy This is this is a guy that has a real shot to be an all-star And really be a guy that could be in contention for all NBA given what he's proven in the playoffs Yeah, you know what it showed it showed that when he is healthy He's a top three point guard and that he can be a number one option on any given night And definitely a number two option on a championship level team and everything he's went through someone like this This is a this is even sweeter for him because guy is counting him out You know the story about Malone or when he went to Malone's office and asked if they're gonna keep him He went through help and to go through that surgery and now to kind of be back at the top again It feels sweeter than just kind of taking the normal path. So I'm super hype for Jamal Murray And also I think this championship run it showed you that there used to be like the big threes back in the day Now it's like there's teams all across the league Whether you look at boston with brown and tatum or embed with hardened or philly with Embed and hardened or you know yannis and melton all these teams with duos This now is the recipe as long as you fill out that roster with the other guys with the erin gordon's With the bruce browns with the tough defensive minded shooting guys like brown and kcp and christian brown That that's the rest the recipe you have your horses You're gonna ride them during the during the you know clutch most crucial part of the games But this just shows you that when you have a duo like kevin durant and devon booker You can contend for a championship if those roll guys continue to to play their role and do it well Miami heat roll guys didn't do it as good as the nuggets did They end up winning the finals But I think it showed a lot of things it showed a lot of teams that they're gonna need six extra fouls with bigger Guys on the bench to handle yokich It's funny that this guy's so good other teams are now gonna plan next season for him and the playoffs Um, but it was a special it was a special run And the way they orchestrated and put this team together is perfect and you can tell these guys like each other There's no real distractions on the seam. These guys are good guys yokich is we've never seen anybody like him I bet he cares more about the serbian national team making it to the olympic And the in the nuggets winning a mpa championship These guys are unselfish They their coach is unbelievable. So they have such an unbelievable thing going on over there The force racing it's got it's just must be fun. I don't understand what I'm missing Five different champions in the last five years. I know we're high off the rush of a new champion right now We're talking dynastee and it's fun to think about eddie But do you think the parody will continue and we'll just keep having new parties every year I do think the league is a little top heavy and the five different champions is a little misleading I mean we were just talking a few weeks back the same four teams in the conference finals in the bubble The same four teams now. So we do have a lot of the same faces We do have a lot of the same duos as chandler mentioned that are up there But yeah, talk about dynastee is a little premature because There's so much variance now with the with the three-point shooting with the pace of the With the pace of play and the injuries that result are a result of that that it's tough to say that like there Anything could happen. There's there's constant roadblocks, but they will be contenders It's very very serious contenders. If not the very best team for a time going forward for sure It's just takes so much to get to the championship and nobody knows better than the nuggets I mean like shams mentioned Those guys felt like they could have won titles They could have competed for titles the last three years since the bubble and and just a million different things happen for them So I think again the variance of the league It's going to make it hard for teams to repeat three-peat. We haven't had a three-peat since kobe and shack You know, we're talking we're on to 20 years now of no three-peats So it's going to be really hard to complete that mission But they're set up in a great place like we've been saying it this whole week They're in a great place to be the first team in in some time to repeat And uh, they got a good shot. They just have to stay healthy and it's really on them Yeah, eddie eddie makes a good point. Obviously the nba is it's really top heavy right now like next year We know exactly who are going to be the top 10 teams barring a huge turnover in free agency or via trade We know the good teams next year and we know the bad teams But when you look at the nuggets, they are a team that's going to be back there Like we talked about yesterday. They have their four main guys under contract. They're going to be there But also those other teams at the top. They're now hungry that the milwaukee bucks are thirsty for You know a contending team the boston self-takes have a lot of pressure to win a championship next year I look at a team like the phoenix suns This was arguably the most talented team after the kd trade and you got a guy like devin booker who i Firmly believe will be in the mvp talks next year All these guys have things to prove and a lot of all these guys are just missing a championship So it's not going to be easy for denver at all. I think it's great for the league The league is so talented where you look at all these teams across the board that anything can happen on any given And then there's players that can literally carry a teams and win go and win a playoff game. So It won't be easy for them. Yeah, that's that's that's interesting What about all those mouth breathers who told us the ratings were going to be low. What happened? Did they get that wrong? All right Yeah, listen, it's not going to be easy But the the nuggets are going to be there right there in the conversation for years to come It makes me happy that we know that there'll be a lot of good teams And we don't know that they'll just be too good team Like I loved the Warriors run, but it was also kind of boring after a while that we knew it would be them the heat on the other hand I mean, there's no reason to doubt them. Jimmy butler certainly doesn't having said I still believe with everything in me that we will win a championship here in Miami But it has been two bitter very bitter finals losses Um, and we know they're gonna have to do some changing channeler, but how does jimmy keep the positivity going? How do they regroup and try this again? Well, just as they did this year, right? They kind of flew under the radar the I still I I can't believe he said the regulars the regular season comment how he doesn't Try to play off. I'm going to believe him though next year I'm going to give him one more chance to kind of have a mediocre regular season And then turn it up in the playoffs But this is a team with arguably the best coach. They don't really have a superstar player I think jimmy butler is very very good I I can't put him in the same category as kevin orant I can't put him in the same category as steve or steve hurray or yokage for guys like that But he's very good, but they're one piece away. They need something else They need they have a lot of decisions to make this summer on max truce on gave benson But this is a tough minded team. This is a team that is used to being slept on This is a team that has that culture that's going to grind they're going to get better They're going to continue to develop all these players Um, but there is no doubt in my mind They're going to be right there in the thick of things and you look at their team They're not as they're not as good as boston seltings. They're not as talented as guys like yannis and You know in beat and hearted and tiris maxi, but they know how to win and they know how to compete And that's more important than just talent alone. So no doubt in my mind They'll be here in the same situation next year contending for a championship Depending what they do in free agency who they add who they lose There's a there's a real chance that the teams they beat in the easter conference this year are going to go through A a ton of transition this year. I mean a lot of people think james hardens on his way out of philly Uh, everybody's wondering about jailing brown all summer Milwaukee chris middleton book lopez if those teams get a little bit worse and the heat managed to improve a little bit Yeah, they're right in the thick of things again. The problem is who can they beat out west? I mean we're we're I would never pick them against the nuggets ever after what we just seen over last week So then we're looking at what the warriors the suns the clippers if the clippers get there Like I feel like those teams and their talent. It's just a better collection of talent So it is tough for them But they will be contenders in the east going forward and they've always been aggressive We mean we were talking about this yesterday Their history is to be aggressive and to figure out ways to improve that roster and to find these diamonds in the rough So if they lose gave vinson it would not shock me if they find the next gave vinson And if they lose kao laori it would not shock me if they go find another veteran point guard To fill that role for them and whether it's this summer or whether it's next february They just seem to always do that and it's a it's a great organization over there And they know what they like in their players and they know what they want going forward. So I mean since the bubble they've been around conference finals conference finals finals They're not going anywhere. Are they going to win a title? Well, he's there. I don't know that's tough sledding because Yes, these other teams will have some transition this year But they're going to continue to get better going forward and they have stars that are much better players than jimmy unfortunately for him So many changes that could happen shams mentioned about the kairi erving at the deadline the inquiries that were made in Miami Should they try to sign kairi erving chandler? I mean is that is that a fit that would actually work in miami's favor? I mean i'm a big talent guy right if I can get kairi erving somehow and and he's on his last lemma his last chance Yeah, I throw the kitchen sink still at kairi erving. I think it's I think it's a mood point I think he's going back to dallas I think they're gonna give him a three or four year max deal and and I think he'll be there for a while But yeah, listen in that culture with with you know that With pat riley there with erics bolster If there's ever a place where you know kairi shenanigans can't be uh can't be done It's it's miami and again. He knows he's on his last chance here. He wants to get paid. He wants to succeed um But yeah, I I think if you can do that and you can and you can add a talent like kairi erving and you're already in the situation you are Sure swing for the fence, but He's going back to dallas. You guys don't think kairi could disrupt even the miami heat culture That could be a good challenge for him. See if he could I feel like it'd be kind of fun to watch personally, but okay, so let's say it's not kairi shams Who who are some of the other big names that this team could be targeting? Yeah, I mean, I think it's clear as you go into this offseason This is a team that probably wants to go get another high end Uh, you know star type of guy at least someone that can take the load off jimmy butler bam out of bio in the regular season The guy that you can depend on when jimmy butler like he said during the regular season Like I don't really care for the regular season I'm ready for the playoffs and we saw he can flip the switch come playoff time He said it before he doesn't care about all star games doesn't care about about um about regular season He even told jaren greenberg of envy tv. He doesn't care about the hall of fame. So this is a guy who clearly I mean, he's saying it cares about winning a championship And I think what this heat team needs is a guy that can Help with that burden in at least in the regular season come playoff time. And so we'll see who that guy is I mean kairi urban. They made an offer for him at the deadline. It was a little too late It was right before the trade happened to the mavericks. Um, but that's the type of guy, right? So when you think about dame lillard, he's been Highly reported on he came out and said he'd love to be in miami if he were to be traded So I think that's the type of guy that you want to go get, you know, does the brad beal get available So those are the types of players that you have to look at if you're miami and what do you have to give? That's the biggest question I think any package Tyler hero you have and they can trade up to three first round picks on draft night So that's kind of the basis of a package you're looking at for a superstar player Oh, yeah, I mean cute. I don't know eddie Have you done the whole what if kairi had been traded to miami before all this? Like have you thought about it and played with that idea? I mean it depends on what they had to give up, right? I mean you're probably looking at You know max truce and Duncan robertson and whatever But I mean he's a talent. He's an absolute talent and he's a playoff performer. He's proven that before I don't know how well he matches with their system But I mean we look at the things that Tyler hero has done kairi can do that and more if he's over there with those guys So yeah, if they were able to maintain jimmy bam and some of their other guys It changes things for sure But I mean how much better are they going to do it? I don't think they would beat the nuggets if they have if they have kairi instead of You know four other guys in the depth they needed to fit there All those guys contributed like whomever it was they would have had to trade it All those guys contributed so you know it it is addition But you all have some some traction as well I'm very curious about what they do this offseason like if they're going to really spring big If they're going to put bam at a bio on the table, which I don't think they should do unless it's for a Jaylin brown type a joll and bead who probably should not be available unless he asks out One of those superstar types Anything is possible for them and and I'm very curious to see what they go and and you know They get to start doing this next week as sounds mentioned the night of the draft and they had those picks eligible to trade Dame is the loudest of the names for sure, but I wonder if they kick the tires on trey young, you know They're they're gonna have to add something and they have to know that going forward So I'm very curious to see what they do Well trey young already said the hawks were next so he's got work to do in Atlanta according to his social media But chandler tyler hero. I mean we it's been a minute since we've seen him play should he be on the table I mean, I think yeah, he is on the table But also it's what have you done for me lately and he wasn't there in the most critical part and obviously it's not his fault he suffered a freak injury here and Tyler hero is a hooper and he's exactly what they need sure if they can go and get a Jordan Clarkson or someone like that this summer that i'm gonna replace em and go get you 15 to 22 points a game And you can put tyler hero and some picks in a package to go and get a kairi or a dame or a trey young I love trey young there. I do think trey young as a second third option on that team and that culture I think that's exactly what he needs, but you know, that's that's a long shot too But yeah, tyler hero he can play and he's young and he could technically be their future Scoring starting two guards for years to come. He's that good. He's that much of a talent But it's all about I think again what what the guys touched on what they're willing to give up and and And they have a lot of assets so they're in they're in the driver's seat with what they can do And it'll be interesting because they're already a great product now without making a one move So it's it's they can only get better on my eyes I'm just pleading with twitter to get a championship ring emoji I just that's all I want I want that before I die because that wedding ring thing is so bizarre in context Shoms, I mean, what is that like that's that's something else. It's a different message That's that's great confidence. We all need trey young confidence. I love it. It's very i'm here for it Some might say delusional, but those are just some uh, I don't know who they are shams It's scoop time. We mentioned the Milwaukee Bucks at the top of the show co-favorites Moving into next year with the nuggets to win it all the latest on chris middleton. What is it? Yeah, so chris middleton actually underwent surgery right after the season. He had to get his knee cleaned up He dealt with a really an ailing knee throughout the second half of this nba season He just was not right throughout the year and so um from what i'm told this is This was a cleanup procedure arthroscopic surgery that that he had and and he's expected to resume basketball activities later this summer But this is a guy that that has a 40 million dollar player option We'll see he has a deadline next week before the draft to pick it up or not We'll see what happens there. Um, but I I think when you look at his future in milwaukee I think there's a lot of signs that would point to him going back He was very involved in the bucks coaching search. Um, he spent time meeting with ownership meeting with league Team officials as far as where that would go where that hiring process would go So the fact that he was involved leads me to believe that he feels good about it But chander arthroscopic surgery for a guy like this and chris milton who dealt with it What goes into that? What's the recovery from that and is that something to to monitor and be aware of? No, and this is the perfect time to do it. He's got the whole off season ahead of him to do it This is super simple procedure 30 minutes. You clean it up. It's just a scope Um, he can walk out of that hospital after he has a surgery Uh quick rehab month tops, I would say and then he's right back on the court You know doing full activity. So people forget when when the when the bucks made that run Chris milton was their god He was their closer the bull was in his hands when they needed a bucket as great as yannis is So he's huge to their to their team to their success. I don't see him If he opts out, I think it's just to get a longer deal in milwaukee. I can't see him going anywhere else I think they're no, he's a perfect fit the way he can create shots the way he can knock down shots He's a perfect, uh, you know robin to yannis is batman. So I wouldn't I wouldn't let him go anywhere If anything, I'd let him opt out kind of longer Yeah, chris smoked the pistons and those highlights by the way He was giving them buckets. But yeah, they need him this they've proven that this is a championship core This they've proven they could win they're in the thick of it every year They won the east in the regular season this year. Um, what they need to do is they need to Improve on the fringes. They need to figure out brook lopez and they need to figure out the rest of their wings And and some depth because they know what they're looking at in the east going forward And it's going to be the seltics and the heat and the sixers Um, but yeah, they need to keep him there I don't think there's a better situation for him out there at this very moment either You know, if if you look around in the landscape You can always use a wing who can make threes and who can create his own baskets But the way he plays off of yannis and the way they compliment each other It's the best situation for both of them right now We are uh, we're gonna say goodbye to shams right here shams. Enjoy your weekend our last show on monday. We're something pretty Uh, we will see you then and when we come back jimmy beller says he ain't worried about the hall of fame Are we buying that we'll talk about it next Your good friend dwayne way it's going into the hall of fame a couple months Have you allowed yourself to think what it would ever mean to you? To be elected into the basketball hall of fame. Yes, I have and what do you think don't care You don't care whether you're a hall of amour. No, I don't do you think your resume? Still don't care. Honestly speaking. Good care less if we're being brutally honest If I was selected to the hall of fame I'm not going You're not going to accept it. No, no, I'm not going like it's like the festivities and all of that I just want to like I just want to like go put my feet in the sand somewhere Should be puppet over here. Okay, so he does not not just that he doesn't care about being in the hall of fame He doesn't even want to go and make the speech if it does happen. Eddie. Are you buying that? I Maybe he maybe he me michael jordan went and he cried like this is a shanty sharp And i'm no big fan of shanty sharp, but he nailed it yesterday. It's disrespectful to the hall of fame to say I'd rather be in believes or what michael jordan went and he cried in front of all of us Like it was it I rolled my eyes so much when I seen this I don't believe him. I think this is ludicrous. I don't know why he's doing this stuff that he's doing, but Like I guess bro like whatever if he makes it like he's friends anyway I think maybe he punched his ticket this year Because I feel like the standards have been lowered a little bit, but Yeah, if you make it go like what are you talking about right now? This this was crazy to me Yeah, I mean It's it's a weird thing to say obviously throughout the history of the mba It's a huge huge honor to to be even considered and We're talking like he's a lock and listen. He's a six-time all-star. We all know he's been a two finals one conference finals I think he is a championship away from being a lock He's a hell of a player He's a hell of a talent There's a lot of guys similar in his situation that that aren't in the hall of fame But to say that if he gets elected to not go it is a little weird it's a little disrespectful But I get what he's doing. He We're the person of the moment right now. Jimmy Butler is hot as they come right now He's a superstar 15 years from now. Are we going to talk about how we let it eight seed to the finals That's why he's in the hall of fame I don't know but he he has a hell of a resume. He's you know five time all mba he's he's He's got the the accolades. I think the cherry on top would be the championship But again, I just think it's like a weird flex to say i'm not going if I get That's a little bit. It just seemed yeah, it seemed a little forced Yeah, I remember I remember he put he went to an all-star game He knew he couldn't play in injured and kept his spot like he's not fooling me I remember what he's done. He could have gave that spot away to a guy He did the same thing. Yannis did this year, by the way, which I hate it this year as well Yeah, he knew he couldn't play all weekend. He kept his jersey There was deserving guys that could have taken that spot and it He's not fooling me He's going if he makes it to the hall of fame and he's four from the on the ballot on the docket that night He's going and he's gonna watch the whole ceremony. I don't believe him Maybe he doesn't like to give speeches publicly like he has a phobia of public speak I could see that and then he's just adding he's all he's done his talk for the last three months I don't believe that party Over the years of like Damian Lillard saying I've disrespected not making an all-star team not begin to Like he's just saying this So we want to we want to find out. All right. So all right, Jimmy. You're in like is he gonna come Maybe that's a brilliant strategy that he's doing here, but and it's it's but I still think it's ridiculous I think he's hype. I think he cries when he gets the call. I think his family his friends are Static if he ever gets that up What a what a weird thing to be talking about in june Way ahead of time. Um, bill Simmons thinks that the Sixers are going to land Bradley Beale in a trade chandler. Is that a significant upgrade over james harden? Honestly, I hope he does. I think brad beal is one of those players that He's so talented and he's just been in a shitty situation for his entire career to be Boldly honest with you. I think he is a perfect fit for joel mb. I think he's a great guy He's a florida gator for god's sake. So, you know, he's just Oh brother, he's a true But no, I mean I think harder we can just see he's on a different way right now. He's on a different path on a different vibe He had the the issues with doc Uh, he's got all these reports about coming back to houston or maybe phoenix. It's not why can't they just be I'm hyped to go back to philly and play with the mvp and play with this, you know, contending team Uh, it's not and I know joel mb and and brad beal are friends and they both train with drew hanglin in the summer Um, and so maybe there is something there and he can create and he could shoot the ball And he's slightly younger than james harden. So I definitely think there is something here I know they have a personal relationship. I know brad beal, you know, he got the long term deal in washington But he doesn't want to go back there. He doesn't want to sit there and rot and on that team like he has been Um, so maybe and I can see it. I do think they actually get better than that depending on It's going to be a collective effort to replace james harden. But yeah, I think brad beal would be a perfect fit Uh, eddie nba executives believe that carl anthony towns will be traded in the next few weeks Are you buying that and how many fan bases are secretly going not here not here? go Next few weeks is very interesting. And I mean, I think this is a smoke and fire situation It's long been noise about maybe he could be on his way out I'm curious what that trade package looks like because of his teammate rudy gobert In the amount of things you would have to give up I I would be very interested to see him on the nix. There's a bunch of teams I think miami would be a real interesting team with him It's it's goofy as he can be and i'm no big fan of carl anthony towns And I know a lot of NBA fans aren't he is a talent. He is an absolute sniper at that size. He could be He can be disruptive defensively He he is a talent worth giving up a lot of track draft stock for I'd be lining up to get him if I could if he fits. Um, do I believe it? What? Yeah, I think I think they're uttering a new era out there in minnesota patrick beaverly patrick beaverly says He's the best big man. And then what am I drunk? What is happening right now? It is pat beaver's trying to go viral and get some podcast views. Come on though For whatever reason, I don't know cat personally, but any he said he's he's he's goofy, right? He's a little bit horny for whatever reason. He's not the most likeable guy, which is crazy because he has game and he is a Absolutely dominating force, especially on the offense offensive end. He can shoot And he just said something really interesting that miami heat. He would be perfect I had this in my notes earlier that he I'd love to see them get like a low pez or a boost of it this summer with a stretch big center Towns is towns. I mean, they'd have to give up a lot. I think imagine what they'd have to give up Since they just gave up that much for for uber and towns is, you know, I think way more talented Uh, so it's interesting and I don't think he's gonna be a T will up next year I think that course is is kind of ran itself dry and and I think he's gonna find a new home But yeah, you you look across the board any team can use this guy. He's big. He can post up He can bring the ball up. He's he's a similar version of yokich where he can do everything on the offensive end So he definitely has a lot of value and I and I would love to see him somewhere else Wait was jimmy butler and carl anthony towns. Was that bat minnesota team where jimmy butler's like y'all are all soft Yeah, they didn't happen. It was that ain't happened. There is no chance. That's the problem And carl anthony towns unless he grew a heart. I don't I mean, I don't know like he got real Tough or something. I still see that happening Uh, but anyways, pred van bleat About to maybe get a bunch of money. He opted out. He is a free agent. Uh, the lakers do we think that's the best fit for him? Eddie Um, it's one of them. It's one of them and they need a point guard They they need somebody who can help shooting and then you saw what they had with dilo and the way he flamed out I don't think they can go into next year with austin reeves as their primary point guard. So Fred van bleat. Yeah, he's one of the one of the good fits. He's battle tested. He's he's been a great playoff performer There's gonna be a long line of teams looking for him I think the interesting thing for him is going to be price tag He just turned down 22 million dollars next year and you can say hey 22 million dollars for one year or you know 60 for three years or whatever he has in mind But 22 million dollars is a lot of money and there's not a ton of cap space going around this summer Yeah, we keep if he's a plug-and-play guy too, right? His his style the way he can shoot the way he can run offense. He can play at any system We keep bringing up the heat. I would I would love them on the Miami heat I think if they don't resign I think that's a huge upgrade. I think he's a better version of gave Vincent. He's a great dude He fits that culture. He fits that locker room. Um, I'd love to see him there I'd love to see him on the Lakers. I'd love to see him, you know, if Kyrie Irving moves from Dallas But I don't think it happened. I'd love to see him in Dallas alongside luka to give him another playmaker Any team it could use fred van vleet and any contending team he's going to make even better So I think he's in a good spot. I think he's gonna get a huge payday Listen, if you just opt out of a 22 million dollar option You know, you're getting that for a longer deal, right? Your agent told you there's no way That you're going for 22 year 22 million for one year He's going to get that for a longer three four year deal. So he's in a good spot He's gonna get a good payday and hopefully goes to a good team so we can actually see him You know play again at the highest level in the playoffs in the finals Yeah, it's more fun for everybody if it's relevant. Uh coming up next we hop on the coaching carousel Talk about which coach in year one has the best chance to make it. I don't know to the finals Or far oh and run it back returns The coaching carousel, you know having looked at it on a page I don't think I realize how many moves have just been made As the offseason hasn't even really started, but we want to go ahead and do correlatives. Who's doing that? Here you go There's there's what has happened already a lot of outs a lot of ins I won't read it to you. I know you guys can all read I want to start with the new coach that's most likely to succeed Long term chandler on the right. Who do you got? Um, I believe I have nick nurse. I think he I think he had uh, I think he got a little bit of a raw deal in Toronto I think this is a fresh start for him where he's Haring the best team available. He just went and got Outside Griffin in Milwaukee. I mean the feet the Philadelphia 36ers are right there I think a lot has to do with the hardened situation But when you have the MVP and you have guys like Tyrese maxi and you have the depth under contract that this team has I think he's going to a very good situation with a very strong fan base That's primed and ready to make a big run next year. So I think this is going to be a huge step forward for him and his career and he's going to again He's inheriting the MVP of the entire league. What more can you ask for? That's not bad I like I like Chandler's choice. I went with Monty Williams and my thinking is that the The markers for success will be different for him. This is a team who was in the lottery Almost had the worst record in the league It's a team with a lot of young talent and it's going to be a slow build for him And that's what he does. He develops young talents He helps build them into a better team and they have a ton of talent there So in that sense, it will be a success. I think he has a ton of job security over there as well So he's going to get the time to make that happen. I love kate and cunningham. I love jade and ivy I love jonathan weissman I think they got a great thing going over there and i'm very interested to see it play out And so in that sense, I think you know if they're if they're close to 500 this year That's a success if they're in the playoffs in three years. That's a success So by by based on those markers. Yes, I think he's going to have the most successful Long term out there in detroit That was a very deep moment eddie because we're all defining success differently And I appreciate you for uh for thinking of it that way Most likely to reach the finals in year one Eddie we got Well, they deleted my answer here, but i'm pretty sure I chose frank vogal because They were in the conference finals just now and they have a ton of opportunity to improve this off season as well At the end of the day they have the brand they have anthony davis. So i'm gonna go with frank vogal I think they will be aggressive this summer. I don't know if they'll get kairi But I think they'll be aggressive in in adding to their to the wing depth I think they'll find themselves another big and they were right there Like they were a great team at the end of this playoffs It's just the nuggets were that much better, which is unfortunate for them But if i'm saying most likely i'm gonna go with frank vogal Yeah But go ahead. Sorry go ahead. Just be being confused. I haven't slept go on Yeah, uh i'm with eddie. I think he also I think that that's a great team. It's a great core I think booker is absolutely primed Uh to have an mvp season The chris paul thing's looming a bit but in the d3a situation, but this this team is talented Uh This team has that duo that we talked about earlier that can lead you to a championship and again I'm I'm high on debba booker next year really entering his prime Kind of you know under the radar in some capacity slept on a little bit I really expect him and katie to blow next year and wouldn't be surprised if they end up as the number one seed next year coming out of the west So I think I think vogal is gonna Got something got something special here I also think he's got a little revenge Hopefully in his mind for how he was treated uh a west of there. So we'll see we'll see You know not to be negative, but most likely to be fired. Chandler will start with you It's the worst one Uh, I think it's gotta be mazula. I think again Expectations that he had going back to this season How they came short some of the situational You know situations that he had that didn't really pan out with with some decisions he made was the substitution pattern You know play calls Uses of timeouts. I think he really Didn't do the best of job in critical moments this year But I do give him a little benefit of the doubt and it's a new system He kind of got thrown into the fire of a crazy situation, but Just know they have the they had one of the second highest odds to win a championship next year I wouldn't be surprised if you don't get off to a hot start They make a move immediately and definitely if they come up short again It's hard to imagine him finishing out this contract. I think he's got a really short leash going forward Okay, so Chandler cheated, but I think that's the right answer I think it is show mazula. I think it's the shortest leash in the league at the moment Uh, I to choose one of the five new coaches. I pick nick nurse and it's mostly because I think there's a lot of I think there's a They're really in flux out there in Philly, and I think there's a lot to be decided There's a lot of pressure on them to win immediately They've went out in the second round over and over and over and if that happens again I could see something have I could see a huge overhaul out there Including getting trading joll and beat including firing the president of basketball operations and their general manager And just just a complete overhaul. But again, that's very unlikely But if I had to choose one of the five and not cheat like Chandler did I'm gonna choose a nick nurse, but I agree with Chandler. I think Joe mazula is on broad time I think sam kasel. He's looking at that big chair, and he knows that's his comehaler high water Do you want to respond to the allegations of cheating Chandler? Oh, he's saying because the producer sent a list of new coaches and my eyes mazula is new coach He hasn't even done a 40 60 look. He's a rookie He's a rookie. It's it's okay. It's an asterisk. Good loop. Oh, good loop. Oh, you're right It's a good loop hole and you're brilliant for using it. I will give you give you that All right, we're gonna take a quickie when we come back. We put a ribbon On this season with the the last of fitter brick Sad It's our final fitter brick of the season we have missed you so much and yes the clincher suit for young yoke itch Just general business business as usual I love it. I love it. He's going here bring bring the dress code back. Let's see who else can do this Bring a briefcase next time you classy man You're so classy and attache if you will. Yeah, he looks awesome and that's a historic picture. So good for you. Okay. Well, there you go This is the difference in the generations. You see that nice Was it four years different five years different? Come on What is this? kids I love a good khaki cargo shops Oh sweet. No, that's the andre jordan by the way. There's no generational excuse here. He's the oldest one overalls overalls are for the summer He's getting ready for the summer here. I I get it, but yeah Well, I wear it. So if that means anything, oh, dude. Yes, please. This is from game four. This was some miami stuff right here I think the the wifey might address them this day. So do me like she likes This was this is horrible those colors should never be thrown together. This is ridiculous. Yeah, I'm not with it ruins You see like ruins. Oh tape. I don't have mustard pants on. What are we doing? Aaron Gordon simple Aaron Gordon. I mean at least he has a shirt on here. That's that's fun Oh, yeah, we're going to use him in his game shorts Outside still after the game Still out there. I mean he is the man of the people if there ever was one By the way, the first thing I thought about was the shooting that happened in Denver. Was it obviously, right? A little terrifying Yeah, right. I just I just don't like crowds. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. Oh neymar a little cross uh cross sport love here He was That was who? Oh, that was Derek white No, that would be weird. It would be really weird if he was just walking around the court in miami I don't you know, it's a giant jacket and some huge jeans. I don't know what to tell you It was not that cold in miami that day. Oh, chris tucker with his all-white ensemble Chris Tucker can do no wrong in my eyes. I think he's not funny. He can get me all white. I'm rolling You can do a little wrong. You can wear whatever he wants. It's all good. I mean he can obviously, but uh Michael Jackson in a Lamborghini one time. He's lived the life D wade with the uh the highways pants um, no It's wrong. No for me. Maybe we're so far gone and then just out Eddie. Maybe we're maybe we're D wait does like he's way cooler than me, but no way. Yeah, we might be wrong. We were we're wrong We are out of time We're gonna enjoy the rest of the week and the weekend and the parade tomorrow and we will be back Monday morning. See all that