 Welcome to Toffy TV, Marcel Brands has done his first interview with Everton discussing his new job at the club. Baz, what did you make? Can I just say that when the video we released with the direct of football was done in February when we still had the PTT, hence the lukewarm reception to the direct of football. No, back to Marcel Brands, he was quite impressed really with what he said, seemed quite calm, seemed as if he knows exactly what he wants, and I've said before just when you've fed up with Everton, he'd go and pull you back to bring this Dutch fellow out with his white train, he's a looking sharp, and he woos you with, like he's got a plan, whichever and don't normally do, and I thought he handled the interview, probably like you'd expect, but I thought he said a lot of interesting things, a lot of things that we wanted to know, a lot of things that we discussed and said we hope to hear. I don't know whether anyone was writing questions down and took them to him, but I thought it was very good, I thought it gave us a reason to be hopeful. I thought it was really interesting that it was actually filmed in PSV stadium, I just loved the Duchess or so, like yeah you're leaving, just come and film me, do whatever you want. It was chilled out on his desk with his traps on, a lot of the evident programmes he had on his desk as well. He knows, he knows. I thought it was really good, it was only seven minutes long, I think it was what he said as such, it was just the way he got it over, it was just really calm, really collected, he knew exactly what he was talking about, it wasn't filled with mass excitement, it was just like, I've got this, don't worry about it. And I think that's the calmness that evident football needs, I think it's a man who knows what his job is, simple as that, he knows what his job is, he's been doing it for years and he's going to come in and do it. And I think that's what he exuded over it on it and without going into big detail, what was asked, he didn't go into too much detail, he just said this summit is about getting the players in, that'll help the team and then we'll go from there. And I thought that was really interesting, there'll be a plan and there's plans there but first and foremost it's about making everything better and then we'll work on all those other things. But I thought considering we didn't really hear anything from Steve Walsh did we, there was no presence from him, I think he'd probably done an interview when he first came in, can't remember, and we've heard nothing from him since really, this fella seems to have a grasp on everything because he's done the job basically, he knows what he wants and I just thought the way he went about it and we all worked together as the fans club, it's not our club we're just trying to make it. The stuff he said about the academy and you write the first job is, he didn't flower anything, when the question was asked what you do first, he didn't go, well we're going to get in and have a look and we'll chat and we'll see what he was like, we've got to do the first team immediately, that's where we're concentrating because we've got the season coming up so we need to manage it, get that clarified, get the players. And then when he was asked about the players it was, I'll have a say but I need to speak to the manager because he's the fella that's actually working with these day in, day out when we'll go through this. And now it's probably just standard stuff but I think it's what we needed to hear because I think, I don't know about you but as the season went on and as the process has gone on with Steve Walsh, I was questioning what he actually does. I've seen no, I know you'll get little snippets ever and I've got this scout from Man City but how's that ever played out, what's happened, where you're up to with that, what have you, he should have been doing a monthly update really to the website. I think he should have a video a month or every couple of months, this is where we are in the process with trying to do this, this is the vision. You can't, you know when I just feel as though with this fella, don't you quite straightforward anyway, you quite forthright in what they're doing. And I think he's going to have much more of a presence around him, I think he's going to have a presence at Finch Farm and a presence in with the signings and going and doing different things. And I just thought, I thought it was interesting. I think he's more akin to being almost the manager than being. If Steve Walsh's role was almost like a glorified scout, this fella is almost like a glorified manager. You know what I mean? I think that's more of what his role is based on. I don't think he is the manager, he's not the manager. I don't think he's going to step on the manager's toes because I think the manager's job is going to be clearly defined and his job is going to be clearly defined. I think that's one of the things that I like and straight away and I think it was really interesting when we said about the manager and saying that we need a young, modern manager to come in and know the role and do the role. And everyone sort of, you know, we've basically hidden that everyone knows where they're going to be. Again, that puts people's mind at rest with conversations about who should be the manager and whether it should be this fella, whether it should be that fella. And you're like, well hang on, now you know what the thinking is behind it. Now you know how it all fits into, it all fits in. And I think that really helps as well because if people go now and say, I still want it to be this fella, I still want it to be that fella and you go hang on. If the plan is going to work, it's got to be this kind of manager. And then if only certain kinds of people fit into that, then that window is quite clear, you know, what we need. And then that's all helpful because then it's simply, then it's like if you don't agree with that, then you don't agree with what the plan is. And if you don't agree with what the plan is, that's fine, but then understand that, just understand that that's the plan. And I think, as you just said before, that's something that I haven't had for a long time is a plan put in place to try and make the first team competitive. And that ultimately only comes down to. We can't be moan the fact that we're not keeping up with modern day football, which we all have a little go at if we're not using modern day practices. I've said to you, you know this, we've had conversations before and I've said, I like the idea of the manager choosing the players because he's got to pick them. Because it's alien to me to go, you bring me some players and go, yeah, I'll work with them. But the way you put it across is we'll discuss it and we'll identify the best player and that's what the fella from PSV said he does. He's very hands-on with the manager and it's, this is the kind of player you'll fit in the system and they identify that together and he goes and so on. But this is the thing, isn't it? Okay, that's the practice and it's been the practice for a long time, especially in British football. But the world is, I know the world's a smaller place now, but I think by being a smaller, it also creates bigger opportunities. You can go and find players and find kids playing in parks in the middle of nowhere. Now, because the world's closer, someone can go, I've seen this kid play because I've seen something, we've got a scout here or we've got a scout there. It might be like a full-time scout, it might be someone at the club, you know, work with or whatever and then he gets the footage and he sends the footage over and then they send it. The manager's job can't be shifting through that. Yes, over the years, they'll have had different levels of scouts and it works its way up. And brands, I think, you know, you look at someone like brands, his job will be to say, if the manager might come in and go, listen, I want that player, he looks great because that's how it's always been. And brands will go, listen, I've got four videos or four lads there that can do what he can do. I know he can. We can get them out of the place, we don't have to battle with X, Y and Z for them. Or if we miss out on him, how about we go for him because that's what modern-day scouting is. That's how people sign, you know, people that you've never heard of or when you go, where did he get him from? Because it's extensive scouting and I think a manager can't always do that. But I think that conversation, right what you've just said, you've got to have that conversation where the manager walks into a room and says, well, I'd like this player. But then the technical director or director of football just goes, well, fine. But I think I can get you someone better. And then they sit down and look at the video or go and watch them and then the manager goes, you're right, he is better. I think that's where the conversations have got to be. Well, it's got to be that because it's about working together, isn't it? It's about the whole, if it doesn't flow, then the problems arrive. And I think that's what happens. I think that's what happened with Cooman. But I think that worked on both ways with Cooman and Steve Walsh. I think Cooman was too stubborn to allow other people's opinions into the room at times. It all has to be, I don't know, the manager might come in and go, well, look at this player. And he'll go, well, I'm going to build this. That's not what we want. Yes, he's got assets, but it's not what we want. He's not going to help the, and then that all has to come into play. I mean, that covers most things, but you know, he also made comments that were in the video regarding Adam Ola Luchman as well. He said he's aware of the players that were on loan and the scene and playing. He wants to have a chat with them and wants to make sure he's there ever next season, basically. That's good as well, isn't it? That's promising. Yeah, you know that it's all about younger players creating a younger hungry team. Adam Ola Luchman's got loads of good attributes, like we said before. He's done really well at Leipzig. He'll be better for the experience. And he needs a manager who will believe in him and he'll play attacking football. And that's the difference, isn't it? And if you've got, if that's the theme that we're going, and if that's the vision to play fast attacking football, you want fast attacking players, and that's what Adam Ola Luchman is. We want our team full of younger players, but they've got to be good enough, not as younger players for the sake of it. Ideally, we'd have half a dozen from the academy. And a good level. But that's the thing he sort of wants to do as well, isn't it? He wants to restructure the academy to make sure there's more players going into the first team. That takes pressure off buying players so that you can buy better players. Better quality. And the money goes into them, which is, again, really promising. That's what he's going to look at. And again, something that's been hinted at is making sure that the wages come down as well. And I imagine, I don't know, with the Wayne Rooney situation, whether that's been part of it, it's almost like saying, if we're going to pay you a top wage, we expect something back. And it's sounded like he's bringing the ethos, you will get paid what you deserve. It seems like that's what basically it sounds like. They're encouraging, and we won't waste money if we don't feel it's right. Which, again, I mean, I know in this year, last summer, we used to spend a lot of money. But you've got to see a retain on that. You can't be spending. It's not an endless stream. We're not in Man City. We're not in PSG. We haven't got a country behind us. You've got to see. But also, you're going to pay someone. It's a reward, isn't it? Your players will be like, well, I'm happy to sit on the bench and earn my £100,000 a week. That's the case if they're going to say, well, listen, you might be part of the plans next season starting. And your pay will reflect that. And if you don't like that, you can go somewhere else. And I think that's healthy as well. Yeah, listening to the wage bill is a big thing. And people will look at it and it'll be doom and gloom. It'll be all shelter by and this, that and the other. It's nothing to do with that. You've got to follow financial fair play with the Premier League rules in terms of the wages. And so if you've got lads who are involved on big money, get them out of the door. Create that money in the wage bill for younger players who also don't give everyone big silly contracts. You're going to have to do it with top players. But we've got players who are on much more than the likes of Deli Alley. And I reckon we've been doing it every week for years. You know, when you're looking at a scene, I can't remember who it was, but there's another player, like a high profile player. And he's like, his wages is 65 grand. And you're like, what the hell is snarling that on like 120? You know, that kind of thing. So if you're paying £100,000 a week or whatever, you need your damn players to be knocking it out the park every week for them. And it sounds like he's going to get a real handle on all of that. That's what it sounds like. He starts his job officially on June the 1st, which again is a lot that comes down to the start of the financial year. It comes down to contracts and things like that. But I'm sure he's getting plenty of stuff in, getting his preparation, might be getting a bit of resting. And he just seems like he knows the job. And that's the best thing. And yeah, good start sounds good. It's good the club did the interview as well. I think that's helpful. Keeps everyone in the know and we can go about. And let's hope they continue that and keep that up. Let's hope we hear from them regularly and then everyone's clear them. Yeah, and what the roles are. And you can go about now appointing the new manager, getting on with doing that. And it all fits together and that's all we want. 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