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You know from time to time people love good photos and these days there are so many photographers so if you want a good photo you can just holla at your photographer and they will search you out they'll get you your good photos but you do not know what hassles they go through while making your photos making sure they edit them correctly and sending them to you on time so with that we have in studio today some two photographers two photographers and they will tell us what their hassles are and they will tell us more about what they do So first of all I'd like you guys to introduce yourselves Okay first of all I'm Timutimatu our first year student at Kenyatta University for taking Bachelof Arts in Gender Development and I'm a photographer Well I'm Mangila Derek everyone calls me Mapeza so I'm a photographer after the year student at Kenyatta University So you guys are quite young So young What are you doing in school? Well I study viral and bacterial modulations and the interpolations in relation to the biochemical applications you get some molecule and cell Well okay I'm short I do molecule and cell biology at Kenyatta University Yes so that's simple But so you're doing very different courses from photography How did photography come in? Actually photography kwanguilians ya kitambo Nakumuka nikiwa mdogo pale nili kwa na piga picha kwa church I laugh with the time I didn't even get to go to my trip to church I was the one who was taking the photos Nakaleka kamera kwa dogo So with the time I was a ikituni fan because first of all to create memories and at least I was able to say that I had a vision with the time I came to live until I finished my form 4 and a friend of mine was in a studio mahali and I said when I was a photographer he told me that I was going to go to Kedogo and I said it's okay I was fried by the way So I left Kali Shaf from around March back in September and I was able to develop my skills in photography until I came in school Kenyata University and I was able to get my money And where did you get your money from? Well photography to me was kind of like a passion so I just used to love photos but I couldn't afford a camera because you know they're expensive but when I finished form 4 at church I was taking photos random photos with a church camera and then I just decided to buy a camera when I joined Heitnii campus so that's how I became a business photographer and then I met him So what is it that you're doing together currently? Currently we are doing both photography and videography we also have a modeling agency like you are creating ladies into models Only ladies? We've been biased It's not being biased you know most men don't love being fancy they just want to be men but ladies will want a lot of things like mapeza I want to be someone good I want to be a model I want to go far so that's how we major mostly into ladies Plus ladies are job-yol Oh really but you guys are job-yol why are you saying ladies are job-yopeka and you guys are job-yol and you still look you said men don't like looking what? they don't like being fancy you guys are job-yol and fancy so why are you saying men are not? Most percentage in Kenya compared to male and females we see that females are the majority who love being taken pictures so we just focused on ladies plus they are marketable and why do you have matching outfits? you know people someone would think that you are dancers or something dancers in Doha na Kwongana matching outfits why did you decide to show up in matching outfits except for the bow tie well about that so you know this guy he's my best friend so like we do things together so we just like dressing same is it an everyday thing am I it's just one time thing kind of everyday thing every day not like every day every day kind of every day okay so now let's get a little serious kidogo what are some of the challenges that you go through as photographers? challenges actually we do not undergo like much challenges but the only thing that oh really the only thing that tunesa onani kama challenge let's say a client had called you and he was like this day at this time come I've booked you for a shoot then when the day reaches on the time client na kwaumteja manaku disappoint na kwaumbia oh siju ni ni ni or actually hot and up so it's it's like a loss to you no ni mbaia you feeling ni mbaia me petotani the other way round where when do you have show up but you're professional like that what about you you don't have to disappoint our client that's good challenges I don't know what to say about challenges but challenges are very many everybody has challenges what is one like two of the biggest challenges you've encountered as a photographer as a photographer challenges you know once you're a photographer need to be licensed so maybe when you're not licensed you can be the security some places are so tight to you so you can't do your shoot there and then maybe you'll disappoint a client and then as he said about the it's I call it a loss to us it's a loss because you you've been booked once you're booked yafa ukwe umatya bitu zingine ukoshu nae na kufanya ii but so na fika uko una pata hiuko ama una kula komteja so na sasa uta komi west fair then kuna rengina uta komi disappoint so those are the challenges lafu plaspia kuna fotografa zwingi kenya so like client anezakwa over demanding like I want a photo like that one but you know in your part who will fanya the other way around so it's it's also a challenge by the way client ako maybe ako two demanding alafu then ya kitukayo so professionally make work what industry for how long for me I've been the industry for three years so bad o nyi ni wa changakwenya industry ya bad o fumat na na kufanya pola pola lakinin au bae ya lakinin au bae you know there's something that I notice with some photographers muna juwa these days like you want photo shoots everywhere baby bomb family photos you just want photos for your Instagram or Facebook and then you go there and then I take like 20 days kablan to mi epichezangu What is the deal with that? Why do some take so long kablau? Is it the editing? Well, for us, we've never done such a thing. Do you feel a pressure kwa rakishona clients? Ya, there are those clients. Actually, kuna wale clients wata, wata shoot leo, wata takapitcha, the same, same night. The next five minutes. Wata sahau, wata sahau, you've been working all day. We try because it's our job. So you don't want to disappoint your clients. We are many photographers, very many. So once you disappoint, attend the next person. So you give him or her the best so that he or she can't think of the rest. Timo na ezatwambia, who are your clients? My clients. Like your clients, ezatim? Personaly. I do, as a, me personaly na shu tigi tu any event. We go for weddings, baby shower. We have to jameja kwa let's take to come environment, ama magari, ama anything. We are just random. But maybe with time, we can... You'll find one path to go to. Where you lie well. What about you ma pesa? Well, about me, my clients, mostly I shoot everyone. You shoot everyone. Even birds, animals, something good, I just shoot. Then we have the baby shower, weddings, burials, birthdays, parties, in clubs. Even in clubs? Yeah, everything. So wuki enda club na Friday night, na beba kamera yakun enda kum? Yeah, so in the club, the camera is my ticket It's my date. Ah, okay. Your camera is your date. How is it your date? Because it's my... That's a very weird kind of a date. We have some of your sample photos that you brought with you today. And the producer will be having them showcase as the show goes on. And I would like to know, you said that some of the challenges you're facing, they are not as many, but as upcoming photographers, I've asked about the clientele, and I want to know, where do you mostly showcase some of these photos that you take? Well, we are students at Kenyatta University. So most of our job, we do it at Kenyatta University. The students there around there, we have a railway. Do you have a studio? Not a studio. We do outdoor shoots and indoors like Apakwa Rumdan nothing else to this. But that just got left. I have to leave the money up coming. Yeah. So, naive or two, we do that. How you do zen. And if someone wanted to contact you, kupate, like they wanted a photo shoot, maybe like you said, baby bums, weddings, whatever, what are some of the charges, ranges in those charges, how much? We do both the prices. Normally we do one pick at 50 shillings and when it comes to events like baby showers, we do as per hour. Like one hour we charge at 1500 shillings, then two hours to 1500 shillings and it goes on like that. There is a time, I think it's about one year ago, one year, two years. There were these young people and you guys are young. This photo is trending of young people and people who are inappropriate photos. Yeah, that's the hashtag. Yeah, they think that's the hashtag. Whose responsibility is it to make sure that easy photos they are appropriate, especially if you're dealing with young people, because they want to take some kind of photos. Do you say no to such clients I'm out a bigger to Peter? Oh, that's a very hard question. But you know, once a Kenyan is a Kenyan and a youth is a youth you can't tell a youth how to think. So you know, I'm a photographer I'll do as my client says. So once my pose he will say utampiga tu picha hewo and you let people know that this photo was taken by my person. Me, for me. See your design. Kisei muna taka hei picha mii na kupate yo picha. See even the DJ is finding it funny. Once you've taken your photo it's just between us unless you went to a viral bach mii ntapiga picha ntapatiawe and then I'll delete it 4x4. What about you? As for me first of all I need shekisa jwadi kwa na tuvenyo na pose like kuna na tu sifa sosifreshi So how tapiga you picha? Chances are high sit upiga. But I thought you guys were one team so moja na kupiga mii na atapiga na ntapiga and then I delete. We are two people. Oh you are two people but teamwork is just one person. But it's just the same thing. So maybe I'll take the photo. If it's a bad photo mii sit upiga Not so bad. In short you're ifke wa zazi You design your ifke wa zazi It's not cool. Have you had clients like those when you want to attack a let me just say straight up like nude photos or something like that. Kuna wengi. This picture is so cool I can get a nude photo out of there but it's tricky. We are Christians. You run away. You flee just like Joseph Maybe it's true. So what kind of cameras do you use? We use Nikon. Yeah personally we use Nikon. What about you? We use the same Nikon dita We have it with us if we can have someone to pass it over. So these are speed lights for lighting and then this is the camera so those are old so you do this mount and then we do this and cut though doesn't have the better Hahaha Now I can smile I won't run. you can do me like that Do you have different lenses for the camera? Yes, we have like three. We have the kit lens, which we are using today. We have the zoom lens, the big one, 18-300mm. And our prime lens 85mm. Which other studio equipment do you have? Okay, not the studio but your photography equipment. The Godox, the software box for lighting and some stands, like two stands. Professionalism to the maxima. There's something I wanted to ask you about the modeling agency. You know, so many young girls, I would say, they want to become stars within just a minute. And then maybe some of them get discouraged because one ask here modeling agencies are as come. You ask them for so much money and then they don't get paid. Do those things happen? Yeah, they happen but not to us. Not to you? What makes you different? Okay, our models, they are our friends. So we help each other when we need each other. So we just can't abandon them like making it as come. Everyone knows us so we have a reputation to maintain. Oh, that's good. So where can people find you on Instagram, Timo? You can tell us. Okay, on social media. Oh, yeah, social media, sorry, not Instagram. Actually, I'm a fan of Instagram. So I'll just say my Instagram page. You can find us on our, if you want to see our work, you can find us at supremevisuals at underscore supreme dot visuals. Personal, you can follow me at Timo Kee, her baby driver. Baby driver? Yeah. Why baby driver? I love driving. Okay, what about you? Well, for me, as you said, yeah, by the way, we work together. So we have a name. It's a supreme visuals. So that's our Instagram account. Then for me, it's just mypesa254, mypesa underscore 254. And then you can call at 07 4247, 30147, as simple as that. That is your personal number or supreme? That is a personal number and supreme. So if someone wanted to come for a photo shoot, that is how they will find you? Yeah. Okay. Thank you so much for making time to join us today. Thank you so much for making time to join us today. Okay, fine. Piana number. Okay, my number is 07 90, 140 to 63. Simple. So simple. So simple. So simple. Then you guys have had it from...