 Our next caller is Isaiah from Arizona Isaiah. How can we help you? Hey guys, um, thanks for accepting my call. This is super awesome. And I Appreciate what you guys doing the content you guys put out. So I had to say that like everyone else does um So to help set up the question. I am currently a personal trainer. I'm very new I started this year in June and the gym that I'm working at The the amount of time that they give us trainers to work with our clients is 30 minutes and I felt like that is a pretty short amount of time to Kind of figure out what kind of program I want to run for them and what kind of exercises I should include since it's only 30 minutes. I have to work with Listening to you guys. I've really understood the value of Making sure you do compound lifts and just the benefits that those offer Especially when the client's goals or weight loss or muscle gain so I've been trying to really incorporate those but I Feel like they take up a lot of the time that we're given as trainers at the gym I work at and maybe maybe that's still okay, but I feel like I'm having a hard time figuring out how to program My workout for my clients for only 30 minutes I love this question. Do you guys remember? It's actually the very beginning of the podcast I don't think we've talked about this in a long time. We talked about this Remember, we talked about like if we only had 30 minutes to train a client like how would how would we address that and that? This similar challenge was that you know, because I get it like a squatting session could literally take 30 minutes by itself Yeah, totally. Um, so obviously the first thing is Everybody is an individual and this this answer that I'm going to give you would be different based on the client So you and this is where your skill sets will evolve. You'll have to learn to Modify and adjust based on the person their goals their needs their their inabilities and so forth But I do think there's there is nothing wrong with an entire 30-minute session being dedicated to improving the squat And so I would actually convince my client that came in that like today We are gonna work on the skill of squatting because it's so but and I would sell them on Why I want to do this because of how beneficial it is for building muscle for burning body fat for overall function Like I we want to get good at this And so the whole session would be around, you know These priming and mobility movements and then we would squat then we do it prime and mobility movements And then we would squat and it just trying to get them good And that would be like one of the training sessions and then maybe the next day I see him it's overhead press and bench press or something like maybe you get two lifts done But I don't be afraid to do One or two like full-body movements like the squaw a deadlift Overstanding head press these movements are so fundamental and beneficial to the client that just because you didn't do seven Exercise listen you could do seven exercises right in a workout for somebody and it'd be less effective than one Mm-hmm, and that and I think that's the hardest part for some people to understand is like You know, you could you could have someone do machine bicep curls tricep push downs lateral raises You know cable rows and maybe something else And I would tell you that I could take it that same person and do just one squat session with them And they will get more bang for their buck as far as burning fat building muscle overall movement overall health like so Don't be afraid to to have a session. That's completely dedicated to a movie. Yeah, 100% agree I mean simplicity here is key because I mean it's so nuanced There's so many different like cues so many different things you can you know peer into it Actually, they get a lot of value out of that and you have to consider each person individually like what's their biggest need? Like what can I really hyper focus in on and and educate them and build them? You know a routine that's gonna last them a long lifetime. And so this is something too like in considering You know each joints function and and really like hyper focusing in on that and like alleviating pain or any kind of restriction of the body, you know We could just do a session mobility wise where I could really like teach them tricks and in ways to you know Place their body in positions where it's gonna alleviate a lot of that's gonna open up new ranges of motion It's something that they can apply at home. I'm giving them skills to then apply at home and practice practice practice We come back, you know, we move on and we go to something else like maybe a compound lift or something that has a little bit more You know involvement in terms of difficulties So, you know, there's a whole scale with that like it's just you got to look at it is like how can I sort of you know Compartmentalize what I would normally do with a long session with somebody and and really just you know Add as much value by hyper focusing on and educating this this client. Yeah, Isaiah You know your clients so I would do I would Spend that 30 minutes on the stuff that they need you the most for yeah, I mean so it may be Overhead press and row it might be mobility. It might be, you know correctional exercise. I mean it depends on the client I so and now here's what I would do if I was in your situation So one of the thing one of the one of the reasons why I ended up opening up my own studio was because I hated being limited by The big box jams they tell me what I can and can't do used to know the shit out of me So I opened up my own studio so I could do whatever I wanted but in the meantime You're in this facility You're limited by time so you got to figure out a way to work around it Here's what I would do if I were you I would do what the client needs me to do the most in that 30 minutes And then I would say John here's the rest of your workout go do that in the gym I'm gonna be training Susie over here if you have a question just come over here and ask me real quick Or I'll keep an eye, you know, I'll keep an eye on you Through the corner of my eye and if something really happens and I'll shout across the gym And the clients won't mind, you know in between sets I'll ask you know answer your question or I can kind of watch a little bit or I know you're doing The exercise I told you but focus most of the all that 30 minutes is what you think the client needs you most for So look at all the exercise all stuff you want to do and say, okay What do I feel most comfortable this client doing on their own and what do they really need me the most for Sometimes it's the exercises that they need the most cues for Sometimes it's the exercise they won't do alone. So oftentimes it was like I'm going to do these exercises with my client because they're not going to do it on their own Like they may need they may need my help with the squat, but I know they'll go squat on their own But I know this guy ain't going to do mobility. So guess what I'm going to do for 30 minutes with this person Just mobility. So this is where the coaching and training aspects where your expertise comes into play Those limitations already on my head is in the direction of like how many times can I schedule them a week Like how can I fill the schedule up and because it's it's going to be a value to them I'm going to keep teaching them if I have the short brief moment of time with them If I could have them as frequently as possible run through all these sessions You know, I'm going to be able to establish some kind of routine that they can stick What do you what is this a big box like gym chain that you work at? um Pop, I mean, it's called mountainside fitness. So I don't know how big that is I know it's I know it's pretty big in the area that I'm in Okay, do they do they allow you to train a client two sessions back to back by any chance Yeah, and I've done that it's just not every client has the time to do that But I have done our sessions. Yeah, that's okay. That's that was I was going to say so, you know, if I had a client that I'm like, well, you know, here's the deal In this 30 minutes. I'm going to focus on the stuff you really need me for but I'm going to be honest with you You also need me for other stuff as well. I think you need to work on me for an hour I mean, you know, you're the you're the you're the expert, right? You make the recommendations and you take it from there and you give them an option option one I'm training you for 30 minutes. I'm going to focus on the stuff you really need me for But then that means that there's a other stuff that you kind of need me for but you got to do on your own Or option two, I'm your trainer. That's it everything you do in the gym You do with me and I can tell you that you're going to get the best results And I can guarantee that you're going to be in the best hands doing it that way as well Well, this also highlights The exception to the rule right that we make sometimes we talk about on the show all time the benefits of free weights and that You know isolation exercises are like inferior to you know compound movements and stuff like that But here's an example of where I would use a lot of machines and real basic movements is I would go Okay, like Sal's saying I'm going to focus on the thing that they need me the most for those 30 minutes And then I'm going to prescribe the rest of them and I'm going to prescribe things that may not be as good Right, so I know that a barbell bench press is superior to a machine Cable fly or a machine press, right? I know that But maybe I'm limited to the time and I know there's other things that I could help them out even more So for the time being I might I might squat with them for that 30 minutes and then tell them I want you to use the machine press here and this tricep pushdown machine here and this bicep curl machine here And then this lateral machine here and that's what you're going to do after you and I squat together Or this is what I want you to do tomorrow when you don't see me So I would use these these uh these exercises that we typically would say are inferior to other Barbell dumbbell movements because I'm limited to how much time I can support this client Or you might have a client who actually once you show them one time They do have pretty good form and you can trust them to go do uh, you know Dumbbell skull crusher or they do pick up bench press and so you can prescribe that but I think the answer Is going to be is pretty much the same from all of us is you as a trainer need to figure out What you know if you looked at the perfect program where you weren't limited by time Where are the areas that they will need you the most and that's where you focus your time and then the rest The you you prescribe and tell them to do on their own That's perfect Yeah, that was my thought process and I figured you guys would Also say the same thing So my thought process was if I only if I only have 30 minutes of them The best thing I can do for them is to provide the best Service I can in that 30 minutes And I've really learned how valuable the compound lifts are So I've been starting out my sessions with those lifts squats dead lifts Bench press because I feel like Those are going to give them the most benefit and some some of those lifts you really need help doing that Like you obviously need a spotter when it comes to bench or to watch form when you squat So I've been really focusing my sessions on those And sometimes they take up half of the time sometimes they take up the whole time Like in a five by five squats like 30 minutes goes by pretty quick Right and and they haven't complained that it's boring or that they're not having fun Um, they're seeing good progress and they're they're getting good results So I just figured I would get some validation from you guys. Yeah, let me interrupt you Okay, this is a and also I don't think you're making this mistake but be aware of this One a mistake that a lot of new trainers make is they discreet. They completely forget human behavior What your client needs you the most for Sometimes is what you think they need the most and sometimes it's just You know, like I said earlier, like I got a client who definitely benefit from me doing lots of you know Squats with them, but I also know that they're going to do some form of squats on their own But the one thing that they always avoid is mobility work So guess what I'm going to do for 30 minutes with that person mobility work, right? So you got to think like that What does the client need the most for me and what is going to benefit them the most do that in the 30 minutes So sometimes it's going to be the compound lifts Sometimes it's going to be the stuff that the client won't do on their own Even though they know how to and they can they just don't do it on their own So that's what you end up doing and when you and when you have multiple things that you're trying to address Like because maybe you're here in sour and you're like, shit man They really need me for squat. They really need me for deadlift. They really knew So there's nothing wrong with you doing this like and by the way The more you you you plan this out and share with your clients the better your resigns will be So they see that you have this long-term plan And you might say hey, I'm limited only 30 minutes with you So this month what I'm going to do is every 30 minute session is going to be different And I'm going to go over what I think are the 12 most important movements I want you to do and so every every workout is different for an entire month And then they practice on the wrong and that's right And then they practice on their own and and then you focus on maybe just a couple at a time Does that make sense? Like so there's and I tell you like talk about setting up resigns This is a great way to set up your resign because they see that you have this long old plan laid out for them Tremendous value you're going to get tons of value in your coaching value And what might end up happening and I guarantee this will happen to you if you do a good job This many of them like man this this one day or two day a week 30 minute things just not enough for me Can we do more? I love it. I want to do more of it Right and so that's another way to uh to lay this out is to you know Plan it out weeks or months in advance of everything you're going to be covering with them And then you'll be asking to do some of the things on their own Got it. Yeah, very helpful. Thank you. No problem Um, uh, yeah, your guys just so has taught me more than my certification has so I appreciate your guys's content Which certification was it by any chance? And I've learned a lot, so I'm not going to discredit them, but I went through NASM I was I was we all started up with. Yeah, we all started with any sm So I know they're they're great certification. Thanks for calling in. Oh, by the way Is there any program you want for free because uh, I'm in a giving mood as a holiday season South Staklaus, um, I would really like I'd be a fan of either anabolic or Performance would be awesome. No problem. I'll give you a five percent off code. Just use Adam. No, I'm just kidding We'll get a we're gonna send we'll send both those to you. Wait a second though Wait a second before I let you commit to that. Do you own prime pro or prime? No Okay, so I'm not gonna let you I'm not gonna let you pick because Because here's the deal those those two programs for trainers and coaches I've said this on the podcast again, so I don't I'm gonna insult you a little bit right here You're an idiot if you don't own those in your trainer and a coach Those two programs are so valuable for you as a trainer and coach Like when it comes to addressing issues with the clients if you own those or you have those You should be able to go back and reference that and be able to blow essential for your tool Isaiah check this out. All right. Like I said, we're in a giving mood right now You're a trainer. You're one of our favorite people We love coaches and trainers because we are coaches and trainers I'm gonna give you prime prime pro anabolic and performance for free. There you go Thank you. No problem. Now. Listen, you got to do one thing for me Go be the top trainer in your gym go out there and take ass and then go open your own studio So you don't have to follow these stupid rules. Yeah, I I will do that. I can do that. All right. Thank you Thank you change lives, buddy You know, you know, it's really annoying to me that gyms do I can't stand is they fail to to recognize the following What's best for the client is best for the business. They just don't think of that sometimes Well, they think to themselves is 30 minute sessions. We could fit this many more clients number crunch. It's a lower price point We're gonna sell more training. No, what's best for the person? What's gonna give them the best results improve their consistency the most it's gonna give the trainers The most tools to do the best job That's what's gonna make your business and your gym crush pricing and timely It's the race to the bottom. It's just a noise of crap out of me And I really wish that a lot of them would do this and it was funny when I would when run gyms I would do what I wanted to do half the time and not what they told me to do because I I understood this And luckily they left me alone because when they'd see the money Then they'd say, okay. Well Sal you keep doing your thing, but it just really bothers me when they do that Yeah, I remember this though That was the push for a while because it made sense corporate wise like it Let's let's be as efficient as possible Let's like lower price point because maybe price is the biggest barrier But you know, then you had you know trainers out there like me I'm like I want to sell the the biggest package I possibly can like I don't want to like so I would have to sell these 30 minute sessions And I would just stack them all back to back to back. Yeah, that's what I'm gonna use this opportunity to continue to insult Isiah and all the other I'm serious. Okay. The kid just said The kid just got done saying how much he's learned from our podcast in comparison to a national certification NSM by the way runs you 800 to a thousand dollars. Okay Maps prime and prime pro the fucking bundle is 160 bucks or so give or take whatever it is That is not that much of an investment and what that will be able to you'll be able to do with that With your clients will absolutely blow your mind So if you're a trainer and you're listening this and I haven't said this in a while And you do not own both those programs you you stop listening to show I don't want you listening to show anymore. You're getting all this good information You see all the value in it now you gotta apply it and you haven't invested in those two programs Out of all the programs we own nothing we made those for trainers I mean that's really who we thought about when we made them and the value is tremendous and As a trainer or a coach, I'll tell you something right now If you want to be successful and you had to pick a goal that you could work on to make yourself successful It's not weight loss. It's not muscle gain. It's not performance It's getting people to not have pain and alleviate pain I swear to god if you could do that you will have a client for life Do you guys remember I mean I I totally remember being a young trainer and then a client Telling me they have a pain here or this bothers them and being like oh, fuck I don't know, you know like I don't or trying to guess or figure out or then going home and trying to research and figure out What it is like literally that has like compass tests built in so if they have an issue in a joint That's bothering them. You literally can go. Okay. Let's do this movement See how they move through it. They'll feel better right away And then they have exercises to support that and improve that that are laid out for you You look like a brilliant trainer and you could be brand new like so if you are a new trainer and you don't have that Slap yourself. Adam's disappointed in you You know what? Well, I knew it was you mean when you were asking him about what program I know he wanted the cool one. Yes. He was going. Oh anabolic or aesthetic those and I'm thinking to myself this kid I bet you doesn't even have fucking primer She's cold out, dude. Spoken like a good fitness manager Hey, if you enjoyed that clip you can find the full episode here or you can find other clips over here and be sure to subscribe