 Give a thumbs up. I'm glad those of you got there safe and sound. All right. Great. Thank you. This is a convening of the Master's of this Game and Commission. It is January 24th, 2024. It's our public meeting for agenda setting purposes, number 161. We're going to get started with our minutes. Commissioner Maynard, I know that there was. Madam chair, did you want to do a roll call? Sorry. Yep. I'm a little bit off. I just reported to colleagues that. I did a turnaround because of traffic today. I live about 20 minutes away from downtown Boston and. About an hour and a half later, I realized I needed to turn around to get to our meeting. So. Thank you for the virtual option. I did think about that Eileen commissioner Brian and I said, well, you know, I can do this virtually. I'm here. Very unfortunate. We have that flexibility. So the roll call commissioner Brian. I am here. Thanks. Commissioner Hill. I am also here. Mr. Skinner. Good morning. Good morning and commissioner Maynard. I'm here. Great. All right. Now we'll get started properly with public meeting number 161 and. Commissioner Maynard, my apologies. I realized that the minutes that did get to us somehow didn't get distributed until just a little bit earlier this morning. So I just want to let you, you know that they are, I think now are in the packet. Trudy, but my, our apologies. So there may be a request. All right. No problem. I'll make the motion and if somebody needs more time, they can let me know. Okay. Thank you. I'm going to need more time. Sorry. They came through when, when I was in another meeting, so I didn't have a chance to look at them. We can roll them over to the next meeting or to the end of the meeting. It doesn't matter. Whatever, whatever you want to do. I prefer the next meeting so that I don't have to try to multitask here. Perfect. I would draw my motion. Thank you. And so we'll have them. We know that there are two sets ready for the next meeting. My apologies. Commissioner Maynard. Okay. We'll get started then with our agenda planning commission as you have this meeting schedule through March 14th now. As you'll see that immediately following today's agenda setting meeting, we do have a special short public meeting regarding the IEP screening committee's update and advancement of finalists. So that will follow this at 1130. Okay. Turning to February 1st. Administrative update. Good morning again. Interim executive director Grossman. Good morning, madam chair. Good morning commissioners and hello everybody. I get a couple of ideas for administrative updates for the upcoming meeting. Burke Kane and his team have some interesting end of year stats that they are prepared to share with the commission and discuss, including things like the intercept numbers if that's of interest and maybe get into a little bit about that program. We thought that might be of interest to the group. And so they can do that on the February 1st meeting. A couple of other things that I just wanted to mention and we can be prepared to talk about as well. We do have an onboarding group that's been assembled by our chief per people and diversity officer Dave Muldrew. And I thought it might be interesting to just discuss that with the commission, let you know what's going on with that and what the plan is moving forward. If there's interest in that subject. And then the other one that's come up and I've gotten a few questions about our non disclosure agreements that we have with our casino licensees. That would be helpful. I'd be happy to talk a little bit about those with an administrative update as well. I certainly don't think all of these need to be on February 1st, but I think each of those are subjects that I thought might be of interest to the commission. So I'm happy to move forward as helpful on those manner chair commissioners. Any questions for Todd commissioners. Okay. That's the meeting that it's planned quite few. How's that look commissioner Maynard. It's looking good. It's totally sitting with me the legal team. Finish their part. I'm finishing my part. Judy did a great job and they'll be ready. Okay. I'm going to get those out early, Judy, as soon as we get them, let's distribute them because there's so many. I think they're also going to be lengthy too. Thank you, Judy. I should be able to get those out to you chair today. Oh, okay. When I was saying to truly when she gets them will immediately send them all around to the commissioners. Okay. I just said about date commissioner Hill. So I'd like to keep it on because I believe we're going to be seeing the budget that's presented by the governor. And at that time we will have been able to go through it and if there's anything that affects us. I'll give you an update on it. So yes, if we could just keep it on there, just in case. Thank you. Okay. And just to note that that letter, Todd did go into the mail. It has not gone out yet. There were a couple of edits that need to be made to it based on the discussion. It was actually in the state house news yesterday. The actual letter itself. So it's been more broadly circulated than we had even hoped, but we will get the actual letter out. Hopefully today or tomorrow. Great. Thanks. Yes, commission. This is just directed to Todd commissioners have an opportunity to see it again after the edits have been made. Please. Sure. Thank you. Actually, why don't we just do that right. Can we sort of administrative could we just talk. I'm trying to imagine what edits they are because. Commissioner Skinner, I would, I think time is of the essence given that it's actually out. I thought that it had been mailed. You know, in terms of the edits, they're not substantive. Are they Todd. I don't remember that there were any edits needing to be made. So that's why I asked to look at that. It was removing the one paragraph where we didn't have unanimity. Other than that, I thought it was ready to go. We also needed to send it to the economic development committee. So we needed to get. I can send that right over to you. Those are the they're on their annual report there. They're titles that maybe melds you could send that over to Todd and incorporate that into the letter. We just recognize that there were another set of officials that should be included. The technology and emerging. Yeah. Yeah, so there that was that was the only thing that needs to be done is all those other folks need to be added on to the light. Right. So, yeah, in that case, I don't need to see it again. Thank you. Excellent commission scanner and just a time being a little bit of the essence here. And also, I didn't think we had any substantive ones. No, there's nothing. Yeah, yeah, but certainly commissioner Brian's right, taking out that the one that we didn't have 100% consensus. Just to be clear that that paragraph had already been removed. I was asking to put it back in. That's right. Thank you commissioner Hill. In some form. Yeah. Okay. And it just would be adding those two titles and putting our signatures on and getting it right out. I think Tom, you could send it in the in the US PS and then also send it electronically right with the attachment to all of those individuals. And I think Tom has all the email addresses for those. Statehouse. Tom, am I am I assigning knowledge that you may not have. Mills. I'm sorry, Jerry, I thought you were saying Todd, not Tom. Yeah, no, I can get that for sure. He'll help you. Todd, so you can get it right now. Okay, thanks. Actually, Mills can send it to under his copy, but probably doing it electronically and in a snail now is a good idea. US PS. Okay. Thanks. Regulations. I've got one. Todd, is that right? Or do you have more? This is a good morning. Good morning. Good morning, everyone. Yes, we will be all set for 257, the data privacy regs on the 1st. That's the only one that will have coming on the 1st. Okay. And can you remind us of the status of that? This would be coming back for initial review of changes. So you'd be seeing some changes for the 1st time. Okay, thanks. All right. Now we have sports waiting. Good morning. Andrew. Morning, Madam chair. Crystal here today. Crystal, you want to start? Oh, there's Crystal. Good morning. Hi. Good morning. Yeah, so are you specifically asking for February 1st, right? Sorry. I was slightly distracted. So we had previously asked to bring back the item on the wind bet request, which has now become more of a general overview of the customer service and phone requirements. And I can get you that language. I also had previously asked for addition of a new event request, the women's professional hockey league, which I think we had said Andrew would be bringing forward, but I actually will be bringing forward. So that's a little bit of a change. And then Andrew, are any of the new ones that you have for February 1st? We have 2 new market requests and fanatics as well. New head coach and new player team wagering on where the player may play next season, which coach will coach next season. Both those requests come for fanatics. Andrew, I'm sorry. I got head coach and miss the next one. Player new team. So you can what they're asking wager on if a player will play for a certain team next season or where coach will coach next season. Oh, okay. So 2 new markets and that's both fanatics. Correct. Okay. And we do have 1 other item. The, we're going to bring forth a cessation for 1 of our operators. You've received that information. And that pertains to 205 CMR 258. So we will intend to have the formal plan and that may include some waiver requests. We're still looking into exactly what will pertain for that meeting. But I think between us and legal, we'll get you some more information and agenda language. So that will be a joint legal sports wagering. Okay. I believe so. That's all I have Andrew. Am I missing anything? That's just for 201. We'll be back for 215. Yes, absolutely. Okay. We're ready to give it to item number six, Madam chair and all I can kind of jump in there. Right. And I know Kathleen too is going to add some parameters. So thank you. I be in sports wagering. Thanks. So if we're ready to move on to item number six, that deals with the legend on compliance matters. Before we get into that, I just wanted to talk a little bit about the process if I may. Of course, as, as you're all aware and familiar with, we've talked about the handling of category one or group one matters. You'll recall, of course, the commission essentially approved, although we need to bring back a draft of the handling of category one matters relative to sports wagering on compliance issues. So item number six gets into what we had referred to as category two and category three and how those would be handled and whatnot. And so of course, if it's not a category one, what that means is that the matter has to be brought before the commission for review. And so what we wanted to talk about with the commission was the idea of essentially streamlining the information that comes before the commission. And that's important for a couple of reasons. The first is the idea that we want to ensure when we bring these matters to the commission that we don't engage in any kind of adjudicatory bias by sharing too much information at the early outset of a particular matter where it hasn't been investigated. It has not really been thoroughly vetted by the IEB. And it's oftentimes really just an allegation. Sometimes it's brought to us by the operators themselves, but ordinarily these are matters that have not been investigated in any material way, which means that we want to just be really really careful about the information we're sharing at this juncture. So the idea is that we would in the IEB specifically would streamline the breadth and scope of the information that is shared at this juncture in public with the commission. The idea being, of course, that the commission would still make a decision based upon the information as to how it wanted to proceed from there, whether it wanted a full IEB investigation, move into an adjudicatory proceeding. Of course, as Caitlin discussed the other day, assessing a essentially a fine at that point based upon the information you have before you. So it's the same process, but we're really just talking about streamlining the information that would come before the commission. So that is just an area that we wanted to raise now. And Kathleen, I certainly invite you to jump in if you'd like to add any more color or context to what I've said. Yeah, I think it's important for Kathleen to add in because I know she and Caitlin have been coordinating. Caitlin's happily, I believe at Disney World, if I'm right. So yeah, yeah, that's good. Yes, I'm hopefully she has some warmer weather that we have up here. Happy to jump in. I did speak to Caitlin briefly last week and she had floated this idea of perhaps, yes, Todd just indicated changing the procedure in which the matters come to the commission for the first review for further decisions by the commission as to how to proceed. I think what was being suggested was as taught indicated a brief or a brief overview of what the event entails. I think that would be less information, perhaps then the IB has been doing in the past and holding off on sending any sort of written, you know, two to three page memorandum until the commission decides how they want to proceed with the matter and if the matter goes to an adjudicatory hearing certainly the IB could submit a briefing for the commission to have or if the commission wanted to send it back to the IB for further investigation. I think all of the same options that are available to the commission would be the same it would just be changing the procedure in which the matters first came to the commission is my understanding from conversations. Commissioners do you have questions for either Kathleen or Todd on this it's just going to be a more streamlined truncated process for us to make our decision just so that we don't creep into an area where we've unfairly talked about the facts without really the other side being represented. Okay. Is this up for discussion, or is this a decision that's being made, I mean just or it is, or will this be coming to us to discuss on February 1. So I think that this is a decision from our legal and IB team to protect us from. There's not another option, we don't want to do something that creates a judicatory bias so I think we're hearing from our legal team, Todd is speaking with a couple pass on from a legal perspective and Kathleen with with Caitlin Caitlin did bring this up to me. As much as what I just heard from Kathleen and Todd, and it's to protect us. So I don't, I wouldn't encourage that this becomes an option, Commissioner Skinner. If we need further information as to why and to understand a judicatory bias, I think our legal team could provide that. Yeah, I'm happy to get that. Yeah, I'm happy to get that outside of this meeting. I just, I mean, there was another option, obviously, because we have been following a different process up till now so I'm just interested in a little bit more as to, you know, why we're shifting. Right. And it's the advice now that's coming out illegal. I just want to, I just want to have the sort of the backstory, if you will. I think that the trigger and Todd alluded to it is these matters as they've been self reported presented a little bit of a different analysis than if they are not. It occurred to this whole team because they're doing great work and thinking, you know, being, you know, thinking for always to make sure where we are having best practices in place that they are recommending this approach. So, is that fear Todd. I think that's fair and you know, ultimately, it's really kind of the same process. It's really just that the, the breadth of information that we will be bringing in public to the commission will be a little more limited. That's really all we're talking about. Yeah. Obviously I realize, you know, you haven't had a chance to think about this but that that is if everyone's comfortable with it we can kind of move forward with that for the upcoming ones and Kathleen I apologize I didn't ask whether you feel like the ones that are on this agenda we would be prepared to move forward in this fashion with is that. Yes, I think so I think the thought process would be starting next week at the February 1 meeting there were three matters that the IV has been reviewing that were referred to us by sports wagering that would be bringing to the commission. And I think that the thought process here would be that that would be the implementation of this new process would be to give the commission a brief overview of those events and then for the commission to then determine how they wish to proceed with the three separate matters. And, and that, and yeah, three, the three separate matters that MGM. Okay. Yeah, the second one that we've alluded to in our earlier meetings, right. Yes, there was that presented last week on a matter and as you said, Sharon made reference to a second matter that is similar nature and then there are two separate matters both involving that MGM. Okay, I was just going to say if everyone is inclined we can just give it a try. Next, in February 1 with this approach, and, you know, kind of see how it goes but I think that this is, this is the proposed approach just to ensure the integrity of the process. And in between I think Commissioner Skinner is going to, you know, reach out to you, Todd and Kathleen to understand those those risks around adjudicatory bias it's something we bring up often but we may not always truly understand what the trigger is so other commissioners do the same. Okay. All right. Item number seven. Now we are still scheduled to have the Attorney General report to us on February 1 with respect to the FSN there. You know, they their view on their regulatory authority and responsibilities with respect to the FSN then also their commitment to approaching and the same as the same issues that we're interested in which is to create a level playing field for our licensed, our licensed operators versus the illegal market. So we expect to have the Attorney General's office in on February 1 right now we are anticipating an executive session, we'll see as to that, that issue so stay tuned on that. Okay. Then we have the mission statement, Commissioner O'Brien and Commissioner Maynard. We distributed it to the three of you at the last meeting with the idea being now would be enough time to get comments and potentially vote to adopt. Trudy, can you redistribute that so it's at the top of our email boxes so that will be all fresh on that's that statement. And then we'll move, hopefully to make that adoption. Okay. Okay. We've got you mark on the rest of the of the items for right now, February 1. Your favorite. I know you've been thinking about this presentation and a little bit with some concern as to how to approach you all set for number nine. Yeah, we are all set for number nine working on it right now. But yes, we'll be ready. How long do you think that will go mark? Um, could we give it 25 minutes? And the only reason why I'm asking now is because I've got sort of a sense for the others and the Attorney General's office has a thing. I want to make sure that we can work within their window. All right. And then number 10 play my way report which looking forward to. Yes, that we are also will be ready for act. Just this viewer talking right there. Our draft slide deck came into my inbox from Dr. Michael wall. So that will be if you put Dr. Michael wall is an outside presenter on that. The coordinating with him. He was hoping to be able to present that sometime between 1 and 3pm for his commitments earlier in the morning. 1 and 3pm Eastern time. Correct. Okay. Right. That's helpful. And Mark, I am going to ask for you and your team to just send the exact language. Okay. That's what I want for the agenda with all the presenters so that I get it right and truly I get it right together. Okay. Excellent. I'm looking now at item number 11 long. Good morning. Hi. Yes, so we're prepared game sense quarterly report will be ready. I will forward I truly the presenters at the mass council. And we will have to the presentation ready. That's always a good one. So we'll just figure out Dr wall schedule around your presentations and figure out the attorney general's office. Okay. And then, then you've got this, this legal and RG combined efforts of carry and mark. Yes. We all set for that as well. Mark. Yes. I concur with Kerry. Okay. So do we have a sense as to how long that will be? It's a relatively short presentation that I would say would probably be around 10 minutes with maybe another 10 minutes of discussion. Kerry Bonnie, what do you, what do you think? Yeah, I think 20 minutes sounds good. There's Dr. Andrews is nodding her head. Does that sound good? Okay. And you're all set on the, the other items to write Bonnie. Yes, thanks. All right. I just want to make sure Mark is estimating the correct time. So, we'll go. We have February 1, we're all set other items from the team that they would like to present on this busy day. We do have one other item for the first man chair based on the conversation and vote last week on 205 CMR 221 the sports measuring license being regulation. We would just be bringing back the waiver as you had just that last Thursday waiver from the one section that we would be removing. So that's from the January 18th, right? Right. Okay. Other items from for the team. Let's go back to your administrative report. I want to make sure I have two items. Did you have a third one? Yeah, there are three. And as we pivot into February 15th, we can actually spread them out a little bit. But yeah, so the one for February 1 is the end of your statistics from Burke and in the gaming team. The second one was the onboarding group program that we're putting together. And the third or a non disclosure agreements. Oh, that's what that whole process. Perhaps that one could go on to the 15th. Okay. I'm sorry. I couldn't read my handwriting. So I need to go back. So either. We'll check out how we're doing Todd with respect to timing. Because that actually is pretty substantive in nature. To give us that update. It certainly can be. And just as a reminder, I'll actually be out next Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday. So I think it'd be actually helpful to me if we could do the NDA presentation. For the 15th. Yeah. Okay. Even better. So Todd, do you want to say why you're going to be out? I'm having a celebrating a special birthday. I tell people I'm turning 70. But I'm going out of town with my family to celebrate, which is something we rarely ever do. Yeah, but it's a big birthday. So we are going to. We'll miss you, but we'll be celebrating with you. Okay. February 15 then. Administrative update. We'll have a non disclosure anything else right now. Not at the moment. Okay. And then minutes. We'll figure that out. Commissioner Maynard in terms of the actual dates. Yes. I don't want to get ahead of Judy on this. She may, she may get. Yeah, I apologize. I normally have the dates like locked and loaded, but we are well into May 2023. So I think they'll be from those dates. Yeah. Yeah, Judy, I'll get you those as soon as possible. Thank you, Judy. Okay. Commissioner Hill, legislative update. We'll keep on. Okay. And regulations. Anything anticipated carry. Yes, we will be prepared to bring 250604 related to advertising restrictions for discussion. And we would anticipate including in that discussion some relevant sections as well as from 238 and 247. There will be a, you know, a large discussion about what exists and possible changes, and then potentially coming back for both if there are at its major in the meeting. And this is the one we've had under review on number 12 right here. Yeah, okay. So we'd be bringing number 12 up. That's really, that is going to be a big discussion. So, okay, then we have. Thank you. There you are. Quarterly reports. Actually, did you have anything on sports wagering? Oh, I skipped. Thank you. Sports wagering Andrew. Yeah, we anticipate one item for the 15th, a new league request, the United Football League. Two of our approved Massachusetts football leagues, the XFL and the USFL have merged in December. I think it was New Year's Eve. They made the announcement. And the New Year's Fandall has requested the United Football League to be approved for wagering. I expect that by the 15th, if not, we can always move it. United Football League that made news. Okay. My apologies for skipping over five crystal. Are you do you have something else? I don't. I don't know if we wanted to address, we do have a meeting in between that for those executive sessions, but also I'm not sure if we've decided on the quarterly reports meeting yet, but those are my only outstanding items. So for the, for the 15th at this time, I have nothing else to add. Well, I didn't want to jump the gun, but I think that we have on our, our calendars commissioners for February 9 crystal, the, the executive sessions that will be very. I think it's the 7th, the 7th. So, we have a agenda saying in the morning and then that afternoon, we found the number of hours that crystal felt would be most appropriate for us to hear. From the operators. Remember, they've offered to give us information about their strategies and tactics to address. KYC and proxy wagering. I believe Todd, we have the green light to use the executive session, but you'll confirm all that with crystal. And so that that's what you'll see on the calendar. Should we continue? Should we plan on that commissioners? Okay. All right. So that's an additional standalone public meeting. And then I think we have under review the your, your quarterly reports crystal. But if you have, I can't remember if that's, if you intrude, you have selected dates for that or not. I don't believe so we wanted to have the executive sessions first so we can now finalize those dates. Okay. All right. So anything else though for now for February 15th on sports wagering. I think so. Not at this time. Okay. Right. We'll move on now to Joe. Thank you, madam chair commissioners. So on core and PPC are all set for the 15 for the 15th. I did get a request from MGM to, if we could defer theirs to the next commission meeting, they would like their new president to be available for that. And he is not available on the 15th. So I think the next available meeting would be on the 29th. So if, if we could move that one to the 29th, that would be appreciated by MGM. Okay. I'll set commissioners on that. I'm not hearing any objection. Okay. All right. Item number seven. Thanks, Joe. And then we will have, we'll make sure to reserve the executive sessions for your capital expenditures reports. And the, the I love as well in toggle confirm that that's all. Okay. All right. Item number seven. Good morning, Derek. And I'm not sure if John's on, but we're talking procurement. I think John is on, but his computer may have been updating. So we should be ready for the procurement discussion. I don't know if you will want to have that second discussion until after you've gotten an overview of 801 CMR 21 and the process we follow for all types of documents. So I know last time we talked, he said, it may be two sessions. So we can keep them both on. And if we get into the delegated levels, that's great. If the commission needs some time to build the information and then consider delegated levels, we can do it across two meetings. Should we just plan on it? I think that's the cleanest, but I know that sometimes after two by twos, maybe people have a better on, you know, clear understanding of the information and they just want to move forward. But we will do two by twos on the PowerPoint that we're going to present as well as the information. Okay. So, but February 29th, I'll reserve on that time for the threshold issue. Okay. And then maybe what you could have when this will be for the future as we've talked about this in the over the last several years, that your experience with other agencies on that issue. If you gave a couple of concrete examples, that's always helpful there. Okay. Item number eight. This is, I've been working with IEB on this came out of a press from Detective Lieutenant Leo to have executive sessions to just bring us up to date on really screening issues at the casinos that we've addressed in the past. And this would just be an internal meeting with, I think, Mike and at the lead and Caitlin. Is that correct? Kathleen, are you updated on this? I believe that is correct. So it would just not with with the operators at this at this juncture, I think, Mike wants to, to give an update as to how things are going and then see if there are any questions from the commissioners. Yes, I believe that's correct. I'll confirm with him and touch base with him and Caitlin as well. Okay. And then back to you. Derek, I put your number nine ahead of number 10, because I think you made a good point that you'd like to go over that before we talked to about that related. USA. Correct. So, Judy, did you want to. So jump in first, because I see your hand raised. So I didn't know. Go ahead. I can just wrap up at the end of the meeting when we summarize. Thank you though. I'm looking at the notes and not at my screen. My apologies. I missed you. Thanks, Derek. No problem. Yeah, so we should be ready for that. The AGO will be one of them. Discussion topics that we bring up their request for funding through the ISA will also bring up the RSM review will give an update on where sports wagering is with the additional money that was provided to them at the end of the year and how much of that is remaining. And I think there was one more I wanted to touch on. Oh, we'll be working with Todd and the legal team to see how A and K spending on the sports wagering side will do compared to our estimates at the beginning of the year. I think they're well under, but that will be one of the areas that we had brought up at the last quarterly update that we would follow up on. If there's anything else that the commission wants us to take a dive into, we'll do that as well. Okay. And will there be a vote for that at that juncture? I think there will be just because we'll have to increase, please reserve it. I think we'll have to do it just for the RSM item, as well as the AGO item, because those two items combined may be a little bit of money. And if we do not have total savings, and if the sports wagering team is going to use up some of the money on the sports wagering side, the 750,000 that we had set aside. We won't have enough to not increase that budget. In savings. Is there any questions for Derek on all of this? We'll have a two by two on that too, because it seems like there'll be a lot of moving pieces. So you'll be seeing a lot of us before that meeting. Okay. Okay. Anything else for February 15th from the team? Madam chair, if we could, if it's possible for timing. We have a couple of sets of executive session minutes that we'd like to bring forward for approval and review. So we'd have to have an executive session. To review executive session minutes. Correct. And at those executive session minutes that commissioner Maynard was present for. I think these ones are slated to go to commissioner Hill, given the date on them there from early 2023. So, but the good news is, is that they're pretty short. I know that's what you guys have a lot of reading to do with minutes, but I'll be gentle. I promise. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Sorry about that, Judy. Mr. your use of our. Your hand raised hand. Just the, the ISA matter. I remember 10 dirt alluded to it, but I just confirmed that the AG's office is ready to discuss that at that time window that's set out there that still works. I think it's, if it's going on the agenda, it's actually interdepartmental service agreement is the nomenclature there, but that's ready to go. We're planning on having the AG's office set the stage so that all commissioners are aware of what the, you know, attorney general's office is steps it's taking and anticipates taking in connection with the ISA. So, hopefully the February 1st meeting will be helpful. Anything else for February 15. Okay, moving on into February 29. And we've got the MGM spring fields quarterly report. Possible delegation threshold setting discussion with Derek's lead. Anything else that we anticipate for February 29. Okay, let me have a. Let me have a look at the agenda setting in between. So I'm sure things will develop. Our next agenda setting meeting is. February, February 7. Okay. All right, under review. I love my right that we're going to keep it under review. Yes. Okay. Michelle Brian under review. Yep. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Chief Delaney on the HCA compliance. Yeah, that's that's ongoing. Okay. Is it ongoing or just still under review? Yeah, I mean, we're still working on, you know, working with our licensees and reviewing items and so on. What is our outcome that we're looking for here? Commissioner Skinner, what's the plan? You know. I can't remember how I think when this came out of the diversity, honest that we're conducting of the casino licensees. We didn't want to. And there I think it was necessary to review all of our licensees and all the areas that. That we're responsible for overseeing. I guess in terms of their section, section 61 findings. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, the whole thing, I mean, essentially, these are all requirements of our licensees to comply with. And we're reviewing the compliance with that. And ultimately what will come out of it is a report that shows, you know, areas where they are in compliance and areas where they may not be in compliance. So you are imagining some report that will actually outline that. Yeah, I mean, I think just to probably a memo to the commission. And then once it goes to the commission and you all have a chance to review that, then we'll decide how we want to proceed with that. You know, with respect to, you know, with the licensees. Thank you. Okay. I'll turn back to. I guess it is with more with Andrew than with crystal, if my notes are correct. It's both of ours, but that can be left under review, please. Andrew, I'm sorry, right when you spoke, I got a little. Yeah, that's, that's both of ours kind of what you can, that can be left under review, please. Okay. Thank you so much. Then we have the two screening committees, the executive director. Of course now I'm getting alerts. I think commissioner major, I don't know if we put it on for an update on meeting on the first. I think we'll be ready for an update on the first. Yeah. So for your update on the first, will you be able to give us kind of a timeline. So that we can anticipate. When this gets wrapped up. I think so. Yeah. Yeah, I think so. I'll go ahead and say it right now. We're close. Okay. Okay. That would be helpful. And so I'll put that on for February 1st. Okay. And then commissioners. Skinner and commissioner. You actually have something happening today. We do. So for that reason can take this off of. Under review. We held our last meeting this morning to take care of the business of. 80 minutes. So we are. Prepared to hand this over to the full commission at this point. That's excellent. So. Cross it off the list and then we'll have our next meeting at 1130. Okay. Excellent. I'm going to turn to Tom and Dave on the annual report. Yeah. Thanks chair. Actually, I copy of it sitting on my desk right now. We received the. From our vendor the other day. And David and I went through and made some. Comments on it. And I know Dave's going to be working. With the vendor to make those updates. And it should be ready for the commission. By the time of your next public meeting. So it would be self of February 1st. Dave and Tom, would it be fair that. You'd be able to distribute it in advance of February 1st. Or should we say it gets distributed every first for the February 15th? How do you want to proceed on that? I'll hand that over to Dave since he's been more communicative with the vendor. But I think we're in a pretty good place, right? Dave. Yeah. I'm going to be meeting with Jack rabbit tomorrow to go over our final edits. And so. It just depends on those could get turned around. I think it's probably best to err on the side of caution and get. Distribution for the first for the February 15th meeting. But if they're able to turn it around quicker, we could always try to move up that, that calendar. I, it's a, it's a full sum report. It's our annual report. I think it's good to give it the commissioners all the time to look at it and review it. But as I understand it's going to have the photos in it. And the language. So commissioners, you'll have the chance, you know, a couple of weeks to, to review. And that also gives the team a chance to move on to the final edits. I'm just going to say the final edits that Dave met are the ones that Dave and I came up with. And obviously there'll be time for more edits from the team. You know, if need be. Of course. Okay. So distribution February 1st. We'll just note that, you know, whether you distribute it a couple of days before February 1st doesn't matter. Dave, but that will just say that spend distributed. And then on 15th, it will be subject to. Discussion on changes and edits. Yeah, it looks good. So we're, we're excited. We're, we're close. Great. And I have to. We should acknowledge here, even though I'm sure she's listening to our public agenda, setting meeting. But grace was very instrumentative. And I think we're going to have to, you know, We'll have to do some more editing to our public agenda, setting meeting, but grace was very instrumental as you all know. Getting the draft done. Had the pleasure of visiting with her at her home over the weekend. And she is. Just a wonderful mom to this new baby. And she's also looking forward to, to working with all of you. Again. And is very comfortable with her arrangement. And I think it's going to be a great place nicely. Chair. That's a, that's a fine point. Cause I wouldn't be able to say that we are close. If it weren't for grace's work on this. Yeah. Well, and it's a great exercise for both of you. You're getting acquainted with it. And I know crystal was so instrumental in helping on the template. As well as. Past. Lots of past contributors to the process. So. Thanks. Anyway. We'll make sure to. Give grace a hard copy for her. Her souvenirs when she. When she comes back. Okay. That's good news. All right. Okay. Good morning, Dr. Lightbound. How are you, Alex? Good morning. Good. Thank you. Okay. So your item, how will we bear still under review? Yes, please. If you could still keep it under review. Okay. And anything that. Anything that you're. Is it just a matter of timing or. Resources or anything you're just working on it? Cause I know it's not an uncomplicated issue. Yes. Judy's still working on it. She's on if she wants to comment. But she's still working on a few items. So. Okay. I just wanted, I wasn't sure, Judy, if you were involved. So I'm just glad that Alex is getting all of your help. That's great. It rests with me. I'm doing a little bit more research and I've reached out to the social law library on just one component. And then I'll be able to hopefully bring it out and schedule it for a public meeting. I just want to be sure of our recommendations before presenting it publicly. And for those who are not lawyers. The. The big. Library legal library is actually called the social library. Because that's how lawyers do. We. We spend all our time hanging out. The library is a social vehicle. So. Okay. Well, thank you. And then. We've got number 10. Going to cross that off with this crystal. And then. We're back to. Joe. Yeah, let's keep that under review. Just a quick update. MEPA did finish their process and issued their final decision on the project, which I forwarded to all the commissioners last week. And. We are meeting at the end of this week with, with MEPA and mass. And. And A and K is going to sit in as well to talk about the development of our section 61 findings for this project. So we will start kicking off that process. Because once the MEPA process finishes, then we have to do our work with section 61 findings. So. And I am going to reach out again to on court to see if we have an update from them on when they anticipate submitting to actually, you know, make the modifications to their license and so on. Okay. We're lucky Joe that. How familiar you are with all of those processes. It's not lost. Thank you. All right. Item number 13. My. My office. Just presented me with a nice new cup of copies. Yeah. There we go. Thanks. I think this is still under review because I think I just asked to add this. At the last meeting. Yeah. I know that we've got a few regs to look at to. Commissioner O'Brien. And I want to make sure that we don't lose track of these developments. I think I've got a couple of ones that are, you know, that we, we are lucky because we, we can hear from other regulators and. And learn. And in addition to commissioner O'Brien. Promo bonus that we saw developed out of Ohio. And would like to learn from it. Ohio too is looking at. Mandating the multi factorial authentication right now. Ours is discretionary. I think some operators do employ. That's an option. I don't know if any of them mandate it, but I, I'd like to add that to kind of this reg list. Carrie and team. I think we've, we have that in our email boxes too. And Ohio's announcement. And then another one that came up. During our meetings, commissioners, you'll probably remember Bruce is not here today. But I think that's an option. Because commissioners, you'll probably remember Bruce is not here today. But I feel like I'm not misquoting him because I think both he and I were in agreement that. When we, when we, we all struggled on that. Draft King's voiding issue. Remember that, that question, and it was a lot. There's very involved meeting. For some of us, I think our reg. I think I think I publicly said, I'm wonderful. publicly said, I wonder if we should revisit the regulation. I felt maybe that it didn't have as much wiggle room as maybe I felt we needed at the time. I think I'm not gonna assign anybody else the failings, but I did feel like we should maybe re-issue it. And since then, and maybe at the time, Andrew and Crystal, we knew this, New Jersey that we turn to for frequently, and they do require that there's no option to void of mistake. So do you agree that? We knew that at the time. I would like to revisit it because I think Commissioner Maynard flagged this to me in one of the meeting minutes at the time that it was, I made my interpretation of it clear at the time we adopted the reg, which was more in alignment with New Jersey. And so it's probably time for us to go back and revisit to see where we wanna land on that. Right, and I agree with you, Commissioner Bryant. I think New Jersey, it was made clear. I don't think we had necessarily their exact language in front of us. So I think it merits us going back and looking and seeing where we are as a commission on that item. Commissioner Hill, Commissioner Skinner, Commissioner Maynard, do you agree? So those are three rags, again, kind of cheating because we're turning to other regulars, but that's the beauty of having colleagues across the nation who are thinking about these tough issues as well. Okay, so we'll add those two other ones to 13, voiding in. We may learn more about the multi-factual authentication to when we have our meetings that Christos arranged for February 7th. We'll have to be careful what we share publicly if it's given to us in a confidential fashion. All right, then now we're to your quarterly reports, Crystal. All right, I hit mute and my entire computer windows option opened. So I actually think that this one was related to the quarterly financial reports. That had been on our radar for a while and I'm not seeing it here now, but that would still be under review. We are working with the financial investigation team and have received a great list of everything they'd like to have. And now we just have to work on the operators as to what they can and cannot provide. So probably early March. 14, how should I better describe that, Crystal? What you're doing with the planning? Yeah, that's a good question. I think it's regarding the confidentiality component of the quarterly financial reports. There's... Oh, so I'm not sure if you were on last, well, the genocide, but I think Todd and I took that language off. You did, okay. Because we didn't know. I did hear you guys talking about it, but I wasn't sure if it was something that was coming in Todd's administrative update or if this was on hold forever. I know that it's something we've included in the letter and stuff going forward. So then we could just take this off because our quarterly reports will just work with Trudy. We don't really have to have that on hold, but I thought that's what that related to. Yeah, I'm sorry. Yeah, I actually was thinking it was the quarterly reports that you're going to schedule. So... Sure, technically coming. I'll let you and Todd figure out if we need to be more affirmative for agenda setting on your topic, but yeah. I think it would be, it's going to be a bit because there's lots in the works anyway. So we can just take in general that whole topic off. Okay, great. Thank you. Then we have the general population survey. Ms. Mark, on... Sorry, sorry. I'm here. Hi. There you are. Yeah, let's keep that under review and figure out a plan for that. But it's done review. It's more working on it. Nicely done, Mark. Jump right in there. Thank you. Okay, and Dr. Andrews, you'll be all set too. Thank you. And then, Mark, before you leave, we have also the evaluation of game sense. Correct. And, Ani, we have... The game sense evaluation has... Like, it's four evaluations in one and we're... There's certain pieces of it that are done and rolled up are very close to that. So we need to figure out how to break that up or present it as one larger evaluation for the commission that I want to talk with. Ani and Dr. Wall about that. Perfect. But it is on track. We're excited to share that. Okay. Other items for under review. One thing that's going to be on our calendar that you referenced earlier, Todd and Kathleen, is the adjudicatory... Or maybe we didn't reference it today, but the adjudicatory hearing for PPC. Do we have that date now? Not that we always put that on these agenda setting, but I just... That's the beginning of our licensing review. Justin's turning on his... Do we just have it for planning purposes or date? The fifth. We have it on to the fifth currently, Dr. Wall. Okay, thanks. And then just to add under review, I spoke with Todd and we felt that it's just for purchases of important collaborations that we are hoping that DPH will repeat for us a presentation it did for the GPAC on their approach in terms of their work with problem gambling. Be really helpful for all of the commissioners to hear that report. Some may have tuned in for that. I think Commissioner Maynard, if I remember, you were there for that GPAC meeting. But I believe that there's been even further evolution of their department's work. So to the extent that they're able to give us some time, we're hoping that there'll be a presentation. Okay, anything else? All right, commissioners, do you have anything that you wanna add to the agenda? Our team's keeping us plenty busy. Commissioner Bryan, anything? No, the only other thing that should go in, and I think the response we get back, we don't need a reg change for this is the idea of the seal on the legal entities. Could you just say, I missed one more. I had talked about, we had all liked the idea of putting some sort of graphic on. Yes, I'm sorry. And I think the response we get back from legal was that at least one interpretation is they already have language based on the reg. So having it be a seal versus wording, we don't necessarily need a reg change, but if we could have that sort of under review marked up pretty soon, so that we can get confirmation of the reg interpretation and then movement on a design in a process. On a design, I'm sorry. I just couldn't hear the word seal. Yes, it was on my mind. And actually, for purposes of the minutes, I did note I was gonna make a suggestion, commissioner Maynard, that on page two, this would be for you and Ying, to the extent that we could add for number 10, commissioner O'Brien, it says my name, but really this seal, I was looking for confirmation and I was looking at commissioner O'Brien. And so, Ying, if you could just add for number 10, recognition of commissioner O'Brien too. That would be great. It's on for January 4th, the January 4th meeting, page two, number 10. Okay. So thanks, thanks for that reminder, commissioner. But right now we won't have a marked up date, but I think it would be good to get that too, moving along sort of later, because I do think it's really helpful for the betters to have that. And I know Nils is continuing to make sure our website reflects that. And I think Dave also sent something out before playoffs, right, Tom, that reminded the public as to our licensed operators in Massachusetts. Yeah, absolutely. We're always trying to make sure that folks know who is licensed in Massachusetts and we'll continue to update that as that landscape changes. Okay. Excellent. Anything else, commissioners? Okay. We've got a few minutes before the next meeting. I need a motion to adjourn if we're all set. So moved. Second. Thanks. Okay. Commissioner O'Brien. Aye. Commissioner Hill. Aye. Commissioner Skinner. Aye. Commissioner Maynard. Aye. And I vote yes. Five, zero. Thanks, everyone.