 I could tell you guys stories of me quitting, you know, there's one time I came back from the UCLA track and I was working on a bunch of US track guys and I left there from being there from six in the morning till noon with $20 in my hand and I'd done that a dozen times and I'm thought well kind of idiot am I like why am I doing this and I think entrepreneurs you're gonna have those conversations with yourself and you have to find something that pushes you through those and luckily for me the thing that pushed me through is every time I used this on someone they were so gracious like oh my god that feels so good when can I have it again and I thought I can't quit I come home I was pissed off because I'd only made $20 and I thought I can't pay my bills rent kids all that and I swore at this thing and I put it in a box and I put it in my closet in my kitchen and I'm like F you I'm done I'm gonna go back to being a chiropractor two days later a guy who's now a really good friend of mine knocks on my door I live in Manhattan Beach to get to my door you have to know where I live I mean yeah you have to walk behind a house and down this path and sure I'm in the bathroom and my daughter comes and says dad there's a guy at the door who what guy I don't know he's asking for you I come out and there's a guy standing there I'm like hey he goes Dr. J I was like yeah he said I'm down on the beach training Alex Rodriguez and we lost somehow one of the batteries in the sand and we can't find it and I googled you and your house happened to be right here happen to have a battery and I was like kidding me I just swore this thing away and now Alex Rodriguez wants a battery that's amazing I could tell you little stories like that where the universe sort of nudged me like hey you can't drop this and I'm being real about that there there were many times where there was another power that just said you can't leave this so I don't think anyone that starts any business is expecting it to be easy but I also didn't understand how hard it was going to be oh man I really love that I really I love this is exactly why we started this podcast for these conversations and I think very few people are they don't want to talk about imposter syndrome they don't want to talk about the times they almost walked away and they had someone important nudge them whether it's you know someone showing up at your door or a parent or an investor or just someone at the very last day of you closing down is a such a fan of your product and calls you and says hey are you looking for investors I'm willing to put in 50,000 you know and at that time it's everything it's everything that you need to say I knew I wasn't delusional I knew it I knew it I had this feeling and now I have to continue I think that is there's two things when people ask me how I was able to get through this it was persistence consistency and delusion yeah I believe that this is going to be everywhere in the world how would you rank those out of all three of those I honestly it's a rotating list you know in the morning sometimes it's just consistency I I I have to do this routine you know when I'm standing at a NHL one of the first NHL summer conferences I went to and I'm the only person with with standing there with Cutter one of my good friends and and our the VP the company and we're standing there at the NHL conference summer meetings with this and the brand new tool and people are laughing at us you have to be delusional you have to kick in that's what's gotta be the first so I'll be honest with you guys I didn't think of those things consciously I did think of consistency and persistence I knew those two things would happen I just realized later on I was delusional hey everyone thanks for checking out that clip if you enjoyed it be sure to hit the like button down below and if you're interested in hearing the full episode it's out right now on our YouTube channel we've had a lot of great guests come on this show before and we've got a lot of great guests coming up in the future so hit subscribe so that you don't miss a single episode and one final note we're always looking for new ideas and new companies feature on the show so if you know of someone or know of a company write us a comment down below letting us know who they are and what they do we'd be happy to have them on the show till then I'll just be here waiting for your comments so uh see you later