 and performance engineering team within the infrastructure line of business. So that's everything you see behind us in terms of the 5G space here, Mobile World Congress. We cover server cloud, data center deployments, networking, and 5G, as I said. How's it going with the infrastructure? There's been a lot of developments last year. Yeah, it's great. We were here last year in kind of a full force. I mean, MWC was smaller because of the pandemic, but we saw some initial interest obviously with ARM and ARM servers. And now this year has been, you know, complete full on interest because of the power resiliency, energy efficiency of ARM, and the needs of the Tocco vendors. So there's a lot of interest now in this region. And the ARM servers are getting very stable. Yeah, yeah, ARM servers are very stable. I know in the past there's some issues in terms of stability, but that was as early on. Now they're obviously the success that we've seen with Amazon, the other major cloud partners with Ampere, our partner supply. ARM servers are quite stable in running production environments now. Some of the largest services that people use that are based on Amazon cloud, for example, are underpinned by ARM server, which is the Graviton experience there. And that's fully deployed. People are adopting it in big scale, I guess. She don't publicize how many of their users on it, I guess. No, but I mean, you're happy to check with our partners who are gladly publicize it. Again, ARM is supported in all major clouds in the US, Amazon, Google, Azure, and even Oracle cloud. And of all those clouds, you have major businesses, major enterprises running on top of it, as well as the cloud providers themselves. And this Ampere AD core sounds very powerful. Yeah, we have, sorry, we're in the demo space. Yeah, we have Ampere based servers on the wall here. If you come here, look on the wall. This is a, oh my, we've got a partner here. This is HP, and HP-based Ampere based server. You can zoom in here and see the Ampere core. We took the heat sink off, by the way. They do come with the heat sink. So HP produces this, it's the RL300. So it's a one-year HP-based ARM core server. Super micro, super micro as well, we're showcasing a super micro-based server. Again, Ampere is the CPU. This is about a two-use server. And I see there's a lot of RAM. It's got lots of memory. And all of it can be targeted by the CPU. Yeah, it's fully configurable, right? I mean, there's nothing different than this than any other type of server from HP from a standpoint of what you go to. There's no special thing there. And they can optimize some for storage, some for networking, so. Yeah, I mean right now this is the only skew they have, but yeah, I mean they're testing the market out, they've just seen a lot of success with it. Obviously the brand of HP is strong for us, and I'm happy to have them as the main market. As you see here, we actually have these servers running in various arrays, so you can see all the partners here. So we have a numerous amount of 5G-related demonstrations here. Mostly focused on small, somewhat private 5G, but obviously we're trying to expand that beyond. When we look at the rack like this, how much is ARM in there? All of it? All of it except for like, obviously like the special Keysight equipment and so forth, but all the server equipment, all ARM. All Ampere-based. We have some demos live running across multiple screens over here. We go walk you through. The first one is an AI artificial intelligence demonstration that we're leveraging with NVIDIA. Running an Ampere-based, NVIDIA GPUs running Ampere-based servers. We're doing basically recognition. Doing a live blurring of the zoom up here. Blurrs out the license plates and also identifies people. It's just an AI on the edge demonstration. We have a 5G demonstration going on over here where you can see throughput being measured. It's not very exciting in terms of the graphical ability but it's actually showcasing about 1.3 megabits of throughput. We have demonstrations of a live radio. The Benito radio up there is actually sending a 5G signal down to this phone. It might be locked because I can't turn it on. And that 5G stack is being supported within our server space. This is already on ARM. Now it's real. We have multiple demonstrations on video that I'm not going to walk you through, but people are welcome to come by and walk through. It's been relevant forever but now even more than ever with the 5G and the base stations are getting more localized. Yes. You want to do everything on ARM because you would save power. Right, right, right. So with 5G, right, and I think Facebook has even mentioned this multiple times in terms of the need for faster, higher bandwidth closer to the end user. Edge computing, I used to work in that industry as well. So there's no much more proliferation of compute towards the end user. If you think about it, we've talked about tens to hundreds of thousands of deployments where constraints of power, space, and cooling. We ARM has a history of succeeding in those constraints from our small client device days. Now we've taken that same level of expertise and kind of magnified it now at the server level. So I guess the deployment's not happening at crazy speeds where more and more people are adopting next gen. This is ultimate next gen. Yeah, I mean, it's a big topic here, right? Tocos are a consideration, just in general, right? Power, resiliency, efficiency. It's a big topic. Even outside of Tocos, in the data center space, because of the taxes being placed on them from an energy perspective. Sure, we have some, you know, some stat, sorry, we have some, we have some partner demos. I mean, either of what we call our, you know, the static demos and not really demonstrations, but they're partners that are all delivering acceleration cards. So you have Qualcomm, Marvell, Genovisio, this is by NVIDIA, and then you have some smaller partners, the EdgeQ, and they're all ARM based. So look at the side, we'll find the next piece. What are the accelerators doing? Well, nothing right now. But, I mean, they can do all kinds of... Yeah, I mean, primarily they're used for L1 acceleration in the 5G space. So you can actually put these into an X86-based server, run your L1 stack through the actual acceleration part, and then do the remaining part on the X86. All right, so it's all ARM part? Yes, these are all ARM parts. And ARM has been announcing some NeoVerse over the last few years, right? And they're all kind of like ARM server parts, or? The NeoVerse is the ARM product line, yeah, for server, but I mean, there's always the Cortex and many other ones, but if you ever hear NeoVerse, it is for the infrastructure space. So it's beyond servers as well, we do networking, enterprise level, some storage applications, but yes, NeoVerse is the infrastructure product line. And this video behind right here is also talking the future is built on ARM, and we see a drone. All the drones are ARM part. Yeah, we did so possibly, but the demonstration here that they're showcasing is the fact that the need for low latency and high bandwidth in a drone racing. So if you go to the Compile booth, there's our partners, they actually have live drones falling around, but the whole idea is that in a drone racing environment, you need to maintain high speed, low latency video. As you race the drone to avoid accidents and so forth, so you deploy your 5G stations that are ARM based around, this demonstration is showing the speed of the data. And this is how small the 5G base stations can become or something? This indoor small cell, yeah. You can place a lot of these around just to make sure you get the proper coverage. I've never done drone races, I can't really speak to that. Did you do these in all the subway wagons and everything, everywhere? So people get a signal all over the place? Potentially. Possibly. Are there some other announcements in the last few months that you could be talking about? No, I mean I think, I mean the biggest announcement, I mean the biggest thing that you're seeing from an infrastructure perspective is that we're now across all the major cloud providers, watch your step. And we continue to expand from the standpoint of portfolio of applications, operating systems and solutions on top of ARM in the service space. I did video yesterday with Red Hat announcing some partnerships. With NEC and OpenShift, which is their container manager platform, supporting on ARM. We have actually run into one of the demos there and it's not very visual, but yes, wait a minute. All major container management applications from Red Hat and OpenShift, SUSE, Rancher and Canonical Ubuntu MicroKates all support ARM in a production level. All right, thanks a lot. No problem. Thanks. All right. I hope the video quality was good. Sound quality was good. I'll try not to listen to myself when I speak because it just makes me sound weird. With that one second lag. So I'm walking over to hall seven right now to see if ST Micro Electronics is available to do a little booth tour. Now I wanna film with a techno, the techno king with a real me with a Huawei and hall one. And what else? I don't know if it's possible to film with Samsung. Samsung is down here and I don't know how stable it is to have my camera right in my face like this, but I have to turn the camera around so you can hear what I say, but I'm gonna try to turn the microphone around instead. So now I turn the microphone around and now you can see where I'm going might be more interesting. I mean my face is beautiful, I know, but I don't have to watch it all day. You can watch some other guys. I'm gonna try to disconnect my little monopod so now I can hold it away from my body. Panasonic has the best autofocus in the world. So look at all these people. How do they look like in three megabits? I had to lower my bit rate to try to stay without drop frames. Three megabits, 1080p is four times less pixels and 50 times less bit rate than what I usually record in. It's quite of a downgrade, but it's kind of cool to be live streaming and I've been wanting to do that for a while, so let's try. Especially the ideas to see if I can interact. Hi, greetings. Bonjour. Thanks for watching. Hopefully my sound is clear. What is the program today? So I just went through the program, ST Micro Electronics Techno Realme, which other new cool phone has been launched. Let me know. Yesterday I filmed the Nothing Burger. Show me. I need to get show me, but also I want to get all the cool special stuff that nobody else films. So if you know of anything cool that's happening, please let me know. What is cool and I'll get it filmed. Thanks for watching. It'd be nice if you're in a live chat. If you're watching, please drop me a little message. Let me know if the quality is okay. See these super things there. That's so cool. Problem is, if I went on it, okay, maybe I could have overtaken people, but usually people just block and then it's faster to walk next to the thing. Humanizing technology. So I've got this 5G SIM card, but the yellow box pro only supports 4G. So I'm doing the live stream at only three megabits, not gigabit like they talk about at the trade shows. Yeah, I'm getting techno for sure. I love techno. I spent years in techno clubs in Berlin and as many places I've been able to get to. All right, so here's ST Microelectronics. Let me have a chat with them. I'll put you in a break for a second out of politeness to the exhibitor so I don't like, you know, film them without them knowing. See you in a couple of minutes. HTC by a bunch of guys shooting in the air. Looks fun. It's like maneuvers. It's always good face to face. It's always better than... Guys, yeah, I'm about to dance. And I'll be in touch. I'll be in touch and keep you updated. I'm gonna dance in the maneuvers. Let me know. And, you know, feel like in the rest of the show? Yeah. Okay, good, thank you. Bye. Okay, so this guy is like swimming in the maneuvers. People are sitting to try their headsets. Let's ask here in Korea. Can you do a video at the booth? What is the coolest stuff I should film this? Yeah? Do you want to be at the video? Can I film you? Yeah, sure. And you can introduce me to the... All right. So you're filming this set-up, right? Yeah, the coolest one. And first, you can just say hi. Let me just do like this and say... Hi, please introduce yourself. Before that, who are you? Let me give you my card, you know? Okay, the video goes there and it's live. But it's also on demand later. Okay. Okay? Cool. All right, hi. Hi. Okay, so I'm John Wapak. I'm in charge of this Korea Pavilion. So we have 28 companies from Korea. So let me introduce the coolest startups. Yeah. So you have startups, only startups? Oh, you can see the blue one is the small and medium-sized companies. Yeah, it's all the way down. And the sky blue one is the startups. Startups. And you do presentations there? Yeah. During the whole day? You do meeting rooms? During the whole day. Meeting rooms, three meeting rooms. Yeah. All right. It's so sad that we had our own pitching events. Teaching. Pitching. Pitching. Yeah, yeah. This afternoon, so you missed it. How many millions invested? How many millions people say, I buy, I invest? Okay. All of them, maybe? Okay, I'll let them, yeah. So I think Excel is one of the coolest startups we have. Let's try. Can you introduce me to one of the guys? Maybe. Yeah. I'll ask. Hey, excuse me. Can I do a video with you? Sure. Yeah. So what do you show here? So we are a company called Excelite. We do AI machine translation. We offer upline tools for translators or translation companies that requires any transcription or translation or video. Now we also extended that solution to real time world. So we are offering live subtitling, which actually takes a live stream and then as subtitles back, people can watch live shows or TVs or sports with subtitles now. And now what we are showcasing here is actually Zoom application. Where you can actually. Can we go next to the TV here? Yeah. And so this is Zoom? Yeah, this is Zoom. And this is actually part of Zoom so you can actually watch the app. So if you go to the app, put it from the Zoom, this is actually a plugin in there. So you can actually sit down virtually with your colleagues or friends speaking different languages than you and then you can now understand what they are saying in your own language. Is this AI? AI. It's automatic. Automatic. You don't have somebody sitting in an office somewhere typing. We actually have someone here in the cabinet. In the box? Yeah. Yeah. All right. They support like they have an API with the plugins on the Zoom. What about apps that don't have it like YouTube? I'm live streaming on YouTube right now. Oh, so we have a, so we do a YouTube, you can actually export the stream into RTMP or HL format. I believe RTMP is supported. So we actually take RTMP and live subtitles and then you can stream with RTMP as well. So you can put the X, what do you call it? XL8. XL8. But you put the RTMP in XL8 and then you output back to YouTube? Yeah, exactly. And you put the subtitles hard thrown in the video? Or what do you put it like? So for RTMP, we kind of burn that in to the video. So you can actually watch it with a subtitle. For HLS we embed the subtitle text. So actually the player can actually choose what language you're gonna watch. So you can, because YouTube supports text subtitles also. Does it work for live? No, I think what you're mentioning is the captions embedded in the video. So what we actually offer you, the media cap, which is an offline translator platform, you can input your YouTube URL and then we download the video internally and then transcribe and then translate and then you can download the subtitle and upload to YouTube. So that's how you can embed the captions there. That's nice. That's awesome for people who do video chat with different languages. They can understand each other. So you sell this to the United Nations? Well, no, we are not actually offering that much accuracy in UN meetings. Nothing can be wrong, but this is more casual. And also business casual is something that we're kind of targeting. So now think about it. Now you can do business with a lot more people. Previously you wouldn't be able to communicate with because of the language barrier. Now you can make many more friends globally with this platform. One time I did a video in video and they talked to me about potentially changing the mouth and making them speak the other language. Are you thinking about that? So well, that part is actually two things. One is translation, of course, and then maybe speech generation. And the other part is actually modulating the video so that actually your lip looks like the language you're listening there. Is that next step for you? Yeah, kind of like things that we can actually do. We actually support dubbing. So one of the part of the solution will be kind of one of the features can be done as well. So you need to make it sound with the voice of the user? Yeah. So suddenly they can speak Korean, but they just speak English in the machine. Exactly. For now we only offer a kind of speech in that case, but it's not really based on your own voice, but later we can probably utilize your own voice for another language, and then later we can modulate your videos as well. How about, when is it gonna be perfect? How long does it take before you have perfect? It depends on how you define perfect, right? Because, well, when we had like two years ago, we already had a live event for fan meetings. And then they say this is perfect. This is very good for fan meetings because they are fan-based award watching these fan meetings even without understanding what's going on. And then now they were able to see and read what's going on with subtitles, right? But no, when you apply this to, for instance, you have meetings, no, it's not a perfect course. So I think in terms of like the bar, most of the general public will think this is perfect. This will take more than three years. Somewhere between three to five years, but every day the technology is advancing. So I think we're gonna see major lives every six months. How good is it from English to Korean? Well, in Korean it's pretty good. So people can understand English content in Korean. The other way is a little bit more trickier because Korean is such a kind of subtle language. So it unites a lot of like subjects or objects. So translating is like maybe more difficult that way. And do you connect into some kind of open source kind of a translation system or you create the whole AI in your startup? Oh, well, we have many things we have created but everything is on the shoulder of the giant, right? So even Transformer is based on many previous research and product and I believe every single translation company, machine translation company these days is utilizing some kind of Transformer platform, Google released. So it's the same, no, we are kind of like 30 to 40% of code are modified or extended by us but it's still based on the same platform. So you might be using Google or the Bing or something. Now, directly Google, not directly Bing or anything. It's open source platform that we are extending. Everyone is extending for their own purposes. We have developed this in so much into the directions of media localization. So our translation policy is very good for media content and localization, translation of those kind of things. Nice. That's awesome. Sure. Thanks a lot. This is where the video is going. Okay. Do you have some suggestion which next moves depending what you're interested in. Well, we do have K-pop stuff here right after this. That's copyright music, right? Copyrighted music. I cannot use that on my YouTube. They will kick me off. I see, I see, I see, I see. But you have another idea? So you're interested in content? Yeah, here at the Korea building. Well, I believe there are many hardware. Well, this is interesting. Yeah, what's a cool hardware? Ah, cool hardware. So one thing I know is that now they register pads using like the specific patterns of your pads nodes. Nice, okay. That way you can like figure it out. Cool. Thanks a lot. So this is on day three, half an hour in, you can watch your video, but I'll split it out tonight. A separate video. If you want, you can send me an email. What description text I should use for your video. I see. Okay. Thanks a lot. Thank you. Hey, can I do video with you? Do you want to be in the video? Who wants to talk? Yeah? Hi. Please introduce yourself. So I'm Peter Zhang, in charge of business development at Petown, I think. So what are we looking at here? I see cats, dogs, and other dogs. What's happening? So we are presenting, we are presenting pet biometric identification solution and running simple scans on their faces will reveal their registered information without microchips, without tags, just on app. So just with the camera AI, it will understand what the dog is saying. Ah, no, that's something different category. We are scanning their faces and process them into like feature vectors and compare them for identification. Identification. Yes, it is. Like just to know which dog is which. Yes, it is. Ah, so space recognition for dogs. Yes, it is. Cats. It is. So it's like ID? It is, yes. You don't need microchip? No microchips. With or without microchips? It's better without because it's a microchip dangerous or it doesn't matter. Some people are concerned about the invasiveness of the microchips and they're not really willing to do so in South Korea and some people in Spain as well. But it's cool if you can send SMS to your cat. But that's not the purpose of the microchip. Yes, like some people may want to like get some notification when a dog or cat is gone missing and our app can do the job. You can report the registered dog or cat as missing and get notification if someone in shelter network or police office finds it and matches your cat or dog. Nice. That's awesome. Do you have it deployed already or it's just a prototype? We have our app is live in the US, South Korea, Spain and will be introduced to UK, Germany and France. Cool, awesome. Let me give you my card. You will see the video is gonna go here. And it's live. But if you want, it's half an hour in the video. Okay. If you want, I mean, not if you want, but I'll spit it out a separate video tonight. Okay, thank you. And you can send me an email if you want with the script to describe your... Some more like extra videos that you can use. I will send you. Cool, I can link to them. Which other booths I should film here? Well, I don't really know, but the gentlemen that were... XL8. You know what's cool? At the... Which one I should go to? Well, you can go from here, I guess. From there, right there. The area east of us is right here, which is where the old trip took. Do you wanna talk about this? What is this for? This is live stream on internet. I put it here. Or if you want, I can come back tomorrow. Yeah, come back tomorrow, because we just packed up everything. Thanks, you. Okay, cool. Thanks, okay, see you. Hey. Can I do video with you? Yup. So, do you wanna introduce yourself? Hi. Hi. Introduce myself. I am working for IoT solution for manufacturing and facility. I'm from Korea. And we... I want to introduce you. So, there's a robot. And what does it do? What is special about it? Actually, we gather the data from this machine and we send the data to our data cloud and the data come to here. So, we can synchronize the machine and your computer. So, if you grab something, then the serial graphic grab something. Nice. So, you can do what with it? Recognize it. Yeah. So, if you send this example to your factory, then you can monitor your full factory at the... on the other side of the globe like this. So, I'm gonna show you. This data is from Korea and the delay is almost one second. And you can monitor the inner side of your facility in real time. Cool. Are you launching this as a startup? Yep. Do you have interest from the industry? They're looking at this? Sure. Our client is like Samsung or Hyundai. So, big client is our income. So, everybody needs this? Yeah. Almost everyone needs it. So, that will replace the people? No more people in the factory? Oh, actually, field engineer or factory manager really want this. And, optimization also needs people who manage them. Cool. All right. Thanks a lot. Yeah. So, the video is go right here. Okay. It's live stream half an hour in the day three. Okay, but tonight I will split it into separate video. If you want to use it in email, then I will use your text. Prenix. Oh, yes, please. Hi. Do you want to introduce yourself? Yes. Hi. So, what are you showing here? We're showing... Do you want to talk? Hi. Let me go this way. So, please introduce yourself. Hi, my name is Jian. I'm sales manager of Prenix. We develop Insta, camera and photo printers. And this is the solution of instant printing from your smartphone by Bluetooth connectivity. You can get a print in one minute in very high quality. One minute, very high quality. What is this? This is a... You can print 6 by 4, a 6 by 4 inch photos from smartphone docking. And you can get a print in one minute. Is that not like zero ink? No, it's not like zero ink. So, what we use is called four-pass technology. Four-pass meaning is literally it's going in and out four times, printing in different layers of colors. And we do lamination at the end. And we're using a real photo paper and also printing in layers. So, it's different from other technology. It preserves the color for a long while. And also, it's very cheap to print. Very affordable pricing. So per photo, you only pay 30 cents per photo. 30 cents? Yes. What is the price with zero ink? Is it more? It's more. What I know so far is between 50 cents to 70 cents. And you will see in the market the budget film is next. And that's like around $1 per photo. Are there other competitors than zero ink? Is only zero ink? Zero ink and also instax. And it's printing onto a film. So that's also different technology of printing. How do you compare with the instax? Instax per photo, it's about $1 per photo. So, correct products are more affordable to print. And also printing technology is different. As explained, we do lamination at the end and it preserves the color for a long while, apart from the instax technology. So, you know how people printed their photos before? They would use this stuff? Desktop type. But it was at the shop, they would go. And what is the difference between what they did and what you do? Yes, so if you go to a local photo store, you need to go there, you need to spend time for printing, you need to come back. But if you have it in your home, it's only cost like $150. But you can get a photo, a very decent quality photo in one minute instantly. So, instax is what's the advantage? What do you say, $150? Yes. Is that the machine? Yes. This machine is gonna be, is it now or in the future, $150? Will be launched in the second half of this year. And you also have plans to put it inside the camera? Maybe? It's possible. It's possible? It's not too big? It's not too big. It'll fit? Yes. How's compared to Polaroid? Polaroid also is similar to the instax, Fujifilm instax technology. And also they print in analog, it's more like they try to follow the development of photography. So, it's just like if you think about like way before, like when you develop in a dark room, so it's analog technology. But we bring it into digital and to printing. These cameras look a little bit big. Yes. This is because it's a big printer. Yes, right. This is our brand new size. So, we are the only company who supports from two inch, three inch to four inch, six inch, full range of... So, that's actually real? Yeah, it's a real working product. And this one prints is four by four size. And this is the... And the printer is right coming out this way? Yes, coming out from here, yeah. It's a big. It's like the size of... Yeah, size of the photo is big, that's why. That's cool. How many times you can print? How many times? Like how much you need to put ink in there, right? Yes, so you input ink from here. You can print 20 ink here and paper goes here. So, you can print 20 photos with one cartridge. And one cartridge is six dollars? Yeah, 20, yes, six dollars, correct. Because you said each one was 30 cents? Yes. And this is a cartridge over there? This is a cartridge for mini size. And this one prints in this size. And what's the price on a cartridge? This has 30 sheets, so it's nine dollars. Nine dollars. And the bigger ones? The bigger ones, we have a policy strategy to sell the cartridge as cheap as possible, so all prints 30 cents per photo. No matter how big. No matter how big it is, yes. Nice. And if you have millions of customers, you can get the price down to three cents per photo? I don't think that's possible, but we will try our best to make it as cheap as possible. What is the cost? The ink is not cheap. The paper. And the ink. The paper is special? Yeah, it's also a high quality photo paper. However, the paper cost, the ink cost is not as cheap as we expect, but if there are more customers coming in, then we will try to lower it as much as possible. What is the quality compared to the best printing in the world? Quality, I would say the best of the best, but in terms of the advantage in the instant printing, we try to match the perfect quality as possible. Nice, that's cool. So do you have anyone out in the world using these already? Yes, we have. So the picket is my company's own brand, and this isn't in the market yet. However, we have several products called Kodak Retro lineup. It's already in the market, selling in Amazon and other many channels. So you have a branding partnership with Kodak? Yes, we have a brand licensing partnership from Kodak since 2016. We've been having already third generation of products, and we will launch our fourth generation in coming year. Yes. Nice. Yes, thank you. Let me give you my card. Sure. The video is live here, but I will split it as a separate video tonight. Yes. If you want, you can send me email or the description I should use for you and the links and everything. Thank you. Thank you very much. Do you have a card? Oh, yes. Thank you so much. Cool, okay, thank you. Thank you, bye. Sure, sure. Yeah? Yeah. Just a moment, we'll just talk about it out of here. Who are you? Who are you? Who are you? Yeah, I need to practice this. All right. I will try to say this right now. Thanks for watching. If you're still watching, maybe you skipped because I didn't use the, who are you? Beginning, which is my main competency. Let's check. What taxi? Do you book a taxi? Do these guys want to be right back? I'll just be back. I'll just film here. I'll film two minutes. I'll come back, okay? Do you want to be in the video? No, no. Do you want to do one of these? Talk about this? No? Okay. Okay, cool. Okay, I'll try right here. Oh, what's happening here? Is that a Christmas tree? Solar. Hi, excuse me. Do you know if I can do a video interview? Sorry? Can I do a video interview? Sure, video? All right, I'll take it right here. So you're pulling out the recorder or you're gonna ask an indication? Yeah, I'll try to ask, okay? And this is yours? Yes. Yeah, okay, one second. All right, so please introduce yourself. Okay, actually, the SOFT-PVE developed solar tree for the first time in the world. It actually invented spherical type solar cell which has diameter of only one millimeter. They can be used as like an electric company. So that's the flexible suffering. So, put in a conventional solar module, it generates 230 watt per hour of the thermometer. But in our case, each leaf generates one watt per hour. So as you place more in the leaf, in the vertical layout, we can generate the maximum power per limited area. So, it looks awesome. It looks amazing. And that's the idea, to make it look awesome or it's also very functional? Actually, now we try to make the vertical layout based on the tree shape. That's why you made the tree, okay? So I do, you know, make the solar tree like a taller and you attach more in the leaf, you can generate more power per unit area. Ah, because they point in different directions? Or do they also turn? No. Ah, they turn with the sun? Yes. So everything follows the sun? No, actually, it depends on the client request. We can make a movement or it can be fixed. This is up to the client request. All right. What is the technology? Because you talk about soft, so it's flexible PV material. Yes. Like this one is a spherical solar cell, okay? This is not the real one, it's a model. So actually, this is the real one. It has in a one-milliband size. Let's just try to get here with the music. At the same time, we placed the electrodes both in one side. This is meaningful because we can use this one as an electric component. And you can see this is flexible, transparent, the film substrate. There is a working circuit inside. You can make any parallel and shear connection on it. So to make the exact same, the iphone or a galaxy phone placed their electric component, we placed this one. Not only this soft cell, but also any electric component in the world. So once we place the soft cell and sensor and the Bluetooth, if we attach it to the other world, okay, we start to collect the data and then share it with them with the electric. So as you can see here, this is not a specific solar cell. It generates the power and it makes the LED coming on, illuminating it. Even like some shadow condition like this, okay? Still, there is LED coming on there. So what's the, it says world's first solar cell with a diameter of one millimeter that can be used as an electronic component. Yeah, this is the one. And now we got a word, innovation word and it comes to be like the show in 2021. So when I look in here, I'll try to focus down here with a loop. It's thousands of small solar panels. Little smaller than a tic-tac. Very tiny. It's a one millimeter. One millimeter, very, very small. And they connect and it works. Yes, because if you look at the other substrate, there is a working circuit inside, everything is connected either parallel or serial connection, depending on application. So when you put those, how do you deploy them? Okay, so we place not only this soft cell, but also any electric component. As I explained before, the way, we call this soft cell mounting technology, okay? It's the way exactly same iPod or Galician Pod put their electric component on it, same way. So if I jump right here, because you have a little bit of music going on here. So you would just pick and place it? Yes. Oh, you know that one? Yes. But mass transfer? Yes. You have to put a lot? Yes, a lot. How many millions of them? I'll say, right now we're trying to pick a place, like an LED. If you look at the speed of LED, it's like a bearing of the fast, okay? But also we have to develop even faster the placing of the metal technique, like we call the stamping. Not placing the LED each one, but you know like 100,000 at one time. Is this what's here? Yes. So when I go here, close to the panel, I see the structure. And this is what it is? Yes. And it's actually work? Yes, it's working. Generic power, even they know that there is a sensor inside based on the energy we have produced which reactivates the sensor so that we can monitor. So we can eventually place it in any place where the power infrastructure is not available. You can clean the dust, you can generate to the negative ion whatsoever to just the function you want actually. So I can go down on your machine here. This is not connected to the grid. It's carrying total light in here. Nobody else is doing this? No. We are the first inventor and the only inventor. How long time ago did you invent this? Actually, we spent around five years to develop. So we are on the stage for the mass production. So we started to build our plan. Is this the best way to do solar, you think? Yes. You can just forget about your ugly solar panel. You can make it in a shape, beautiful, more convenient, and more power generated, okay? But the way they make solar, for example, right now, the cheap solar power is just one big sheet and they make them cheaper and cheaper every year, right? What's going to be the cost per square meter, per the cost per megawatt and everything? Okay. First of all, we don't focus on such a light version in the market. So let me assume that you invented the word best to call it the car organ, okay? And your production volume is limited. Then I always try to go to the Rolls-Royce Ferrari and blow out the smart. After building for a second, I'll try BMW and Mercedes. Maybe after 50 years, I'll try chips one. Likewise, we are trying to apply our solution that have high end market. And after the release of our plan, we will try to focus on such a market you mentioned. So it's going to be like a whole road to road process to be more economic. Eventually when we reach the economic scale, our solar panel will be 20% cheaper than conventional. 20% cheaper. How does it, like, this is how many times bigger than the one you're doing? Is that what's the time bigger? 50 times bigger. And how do you manufacture these small ones? What is the manufacturing process? Actually, it will be complicated some combination. So after making silicon bow, we make some functionality in our layers onto the silicon bow. And I mean that after generating the electrode, it just plays onto suffering. Nice. And this is what it looks like. Can I look at your phone? Can I look? Yeah. It looks cool. You need to get in with a crazy macro. Then it's just in a perfect rose. There's no dead PVs. They all work. This is exactly, it's a polysilicon. It's exactly the same as the crystalline solar cell in the market. Is it similar to LCD or something? No. All heads are completely different? No. It's like the crystalline solar cell material, exactly the same. Is it using any pair of skites or something like that? Or could be? It's smart. Actually, not the most pair of skites can not be used alone. So they are trying to be used with hand-up structure. Likewise, we also see a pair of skites with hand-up structure, auto-surface, generating more power. So right now it's not... Right now it's in R&D, right? Cool, thanks a lot. And is it going to be big? Are there some big contacts, some big companies talking about this? Only Korea, no? No, we're talking global. We had a discussion that I studied from the United States, Brazil, Saudi Arabia, Abu Dhabi, even Europe, India, China, Philippines, many countries. Cool, thanks a lot. Thank you very much. Let me give you my card. The video is here. So it was live streaming. But tonight I will put this as a separate video and with the name and everything. Thank you. Do you have a contact? If you want, you can send me email with the description. You can look in there, you can see the small ones with the loop. Thanks a lot. Cool, yeah. I did a bunch of videos, yeah, I did some videos at different events like ID Tech Act Show and Nanotechnology in Greece. They were talking a lot about solar, flexible solar and everything. So I hope I'll get many views on the videos. Cool. So this video will be historic. Okay, thank you. Thank you, bye-bye. Cool. That was impressive. Do you see that? That was cool. Hi. Do you think I can have a contact with the organization of the Korea? With her? Yeah. Did you see another colleague? Only her? Do you see another colleague also working on the... Is he here? No. The guy I filmed with before. Do you want to talk with them or do you just need a contact? Contact, yeah. Whoa, do you see that? There he goes on the live stream. There's a queen of England and Joe Biden. And then there's Rasputin. All these guys. Mr. Biden. That's cool. That's cool. So just maybe you can... Maybe I'll try to interrupt. Just because it was live streaming here, my video. But I'd like to send the link after. This one, no? Okay. Okay, thank you. Hey. Hey, how are you? I saw you at the... I was looking for you at the... Hall 7, right? No, 4Y... Y4N something. Perovsk... What do you call it? Should we do a video? How far are you? Let's go. Let's go. Yeah. Yeah. Were you there? Yeah. I'm a trained scientist. Is it okay if I film you right now? If okay, if I put you on the camera? Yeah, why not? Yeah, yeah. So Varsha, what do you want me to talk? Maybe you can walk in front of me. Yeah, yeah. Actually, the coolest... The coolest exhibit that the show stoppers the other day... Yeah, it's yours. Oh, really? Yeah. Because you're gonna bring the Swiss watch to the future, right? Yes, so what we do is we make solar that can be integrated into any watch. And you don't need to go out in the sun to make it run. It runs with the light which we have indoors with your LED light or fluorescent light or any light that it sees indoors. And all your electronic devices can be run by that. Nice. Are you wearing it right now? I guess this... This is a... Sorry. This is a UV sensor. This is a UV sensor that is running with the indoor light and there is no battery in this. It's the world's first metric device running fully on a perovskite solar cell. There's no battery. It's awesome. The world's first UV sensor? Yes, MedTech device running completely on a custom designed solar cell. What's a MedTech? MedTech, like it's a medical device. So it detects your exposure to sunlight so that you don't get skin cancer, for example. So it sends every second when you're out in the sun... Bluetooth. Bluetooth. It sends every day... Every second it sends a signal to your smartphone I can show you how the app looks. So here, the app is like this and it sends every second a signal to your phone and telling you how much of sunlight is good for you and how much of overexposure to UV light you are getting so that you can either put sunscreen or go indoors. That's amazing. It's mind blowing. So we have... So the vision at perovskia is that we can make everyday devices energy cell sufficient by incorporating a solar on every device. And amazing thing is it will work indoors with the diffuse light that we have. I would be happy to show you at our booths what we do. All right. Let's try not to crash into other people. I guess we kind of have to walk. Yeah, no problem. There's too many people there. I'll show you there. Yeah, of course. That's a cool way to do your home. You are like at the Swiss, what's it called? Startup area or something. Yes, yes, you are there. So we are one of the Swiss delegation which are presenting our latest technology here. How long have you been working on this? Oh, the research started in 2015. And 2020 it got successful. And yeah, then we decided why not to take it to the market because there was a huge customer interest in this new technology that we can make this solar in any size design that you want. My opinion is that we've let Apple play around with the billions for too long. And the Swiss need to come back in control of the whole smartwatch idea. I think, yeah, we all can work together. And the best thing about technology is you can benefit from each other. Like Apple can use our customer Swiss watch and that can power their watch, for example. Welcome to four years into the future now. What does it mean? So how the future will look? Something. National startup team. Like, I'll film with you like two minutes while we wait for them to finish. Which one should I film around here? Which guy? Which one of your friends is pretty cool? So these are cool, but I think for medical aspects these are awesome, you know? The winner, I don't mind that. OK, let me film with that. OK, cool. Can I make a video with you? Yeah, of course. OK. So please introduce yourself. So we are Bifed, and we are developing an obstacle detection system for blind and visually impaired people. So with this, the blind guys are giving them vision. What we are doing is that we are complementing to the white cane, where the white cane has a limited range of one meter. We are able to bring a 170 degrees field of view up to 15 meters to help the people avoid obstacles. For that, we are playing sound to signal to the person who already has a good sound. That's awesome. Did they get that as an audio feedback, or how did they read this information? So we provide a bone connection headphones to the persons, and they get a sound played in the three dimensional space. So like you would have with the parking assist system of the car, you'd have a beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, as the obstacle is coming closer to the person. Could you customize that and have not so much beeping, but like something pleasurable, like kind of like a music, or something that is totally readable for a blind person to understand obstacles? So in the end, the main challenge is to convey as much information as fast as possible. The reason why we went from the beep, beep, beep sound is that we can play on the pitch of the sound and on the velocity of the sound. So this is enabling us to look at the obstacle in the three dimensional space and to know what kind of obstacles it is. So for example, we would have a different sound for a car or for a pedestrian. So if the birds or the whales use it, and what you call it, a bunch of animals use that, it's the standard. That's the way to go. But they do beep, beep, also in nature. Like they do, you can hear the echo. That's the location, right? Yeah, we're using this as a feedback to get the information right here, using the vision and translating the vision to sound. How about what's happening behind here? So we have the cameras here, here is the battery. So we have three hours of fully autonomy. And then we have the embedded computer just here. Where did sound come out? We're using Bonn Productions Conductions. Just Bluetooth. And how good is this system here? Does it really catch everything? Using LiDAR, just vision? It's a stereo vision base, and it works both day and night because we have also infrared illumination. It's 170 degrees field of view, so like the human eye, up to 15 meters. How good does it work? We have some guys using it. So we did 300 beta tests, and now we are commercializing the device. The thing that is the highlight of the feedback we get is that the people really love when they have the silence because they know that they are in security. So if the person is walking towards an obstacle, they would have some. But if there's nothing, they know that there's no risk of collision, so you can rest easy and be at peace. When I look at your video, is it one of your beta testers using it? And what is the feedback from him? Is he saying, is it like life changing? So I mean, he's actually the one who gave the feedback of him liking having the sense of security. He enjoys a lot more going out for a walk when he has this compared to the white hand. Because with the white hand, you need to enter in collision with the obstacle to know about it. All of these demos, we see the persons avoiding the obstacle even before touching them with the white hand. So that's really the peace of mind and the stability you get from having this additional communication. I don't know if it would be surgically inserted into people, but I heard that the back of the tongue is very sensitive or something like that. You can maybe use it to read information, such as your 3D data, maybe in a faster way or more high resolution than this audio beep beep or not. What do you think? That would be an approach. The thing is, we also have GPS information to guide the person in the street. So we have both the beep beeps for the obstacle, but also the GPS instruction to say, yeah, turn left at five meters to let the people get to know a new trajectory in the street. Is it maybe possible they could wear special gloves, something else that gives them a feedback? Extra, something extra. So we'll get more resolution. We're actually looking into integrating the vibration from the Apple Watch. We can connect to the Apple Watch and play vibration in addition to the sound for extra information. That's nice. Maybe you can have even more vibrators on the body somehow. I don't know. The challenge with having vibrators is that you need to have them wearing a lot of clothes, like a winter coat. You're not getting all of this vibration. So it's a bit of a challenge. That's also why we have this contractor, and that's why we are using sound. So here it says you're the winner. You win the competition or what is this? It's better among the startups that are out here, and my colleague, Mayel, won this competition, defending this company amongst other startups in the L-Sum Green Tech Technologies. Where are you based? In Lausanne, Switzerland. Lausanne is beautiful. That's why I'm here, where I live also. Maybe you can do the videos with your real testers. Yes, we have a press kit on the website. So it's pretty useful. Do you have contact? I live in a very near. Hello, now everything is free. Oh, yes. I see. So as you see now, everything is ready. Wait, wait. I don't feel comfortable. Let's have you both behind so I get the sound this way. I don't feel very comfortable. I will leave Adam to it. He will do it later, yeah. Yes, OK. So yeah, when I get like this, you can come forward and speak into the mic. Yes. OK, cool. So here we are at your booth. And this is the magic bracelet that turns every Swiss watch into a forever watch. Small watches. Yes. So this is kind of, you can say, a health tracker, which is completely running on solar. And you don't need to charge it. This is from one of our customer, Barakota Group, from France. And as you see, we make these beautiful solar cells, which can be embedded on the bracelet. And the Barakota Group from France won the CES Innovation Award last month in Las Vegas. And our perovskite solar cells have the capability to run devices indoors. As you can see, there is a little bit of light here. And if you cover it, the fan stops. If you remove the hand, the fan automatically starts working. This is working by harvesting the indoor lights. You can make solar cells into different shapes and size. And this is world's first medtech device running completely on solar. And there is no battery in this device. And it's incorporated here. Devices like this. No battery. There is no battery. Would it be a good idea to add a battery? I sort of need it. One needed. Why to add a battery? Imagine if we save billions of batteries going to waste. We will save millions of tons of CO2 carbon emission just by reducing the amount of batteries that we consume. So this sensor, if you're in a dark, it just says you're in a dark. That's it. You don't need to have it finished while you're in a dark. You are right. Because there is no UV light. There is no need to work in dark. That's the idea. And you can say. But how about these? Would it make sense to add a battery? No, there is a battery inside of this. And all the four solar keeps it charging every single second. So that when it needs to measure your heart rate, it will measure it. And you never have to charge it because it's always charging with the ambient light that we have here. At Perovskia, we say we make solar sexy. And you can imagine, design is in the DNA of Perovskia. So this is a solar. And it can be, for instance, it's a DNA saved solar cell. So that's what we say, design is a DNA of Perovskia. You can imagine solar cells of different shapes, sizes, design that you can make. Imagine this can be in your ink display or on your tablet. And it can keep it charging or on your keyboard. Your reader will never need to be charged. Yes, you're right. I can show you. This looks beautiful, this watch here. Yes. What do we see here in the middle? It's just a standard watch. You can even imagine a solar of this shape, which is almost circular. It's a circular solar. And this can be incorporated, for example, on a smartwatch, and it will keep it charging. So at Perovskia, our vision is to enable a solar on every device so that they keep running by themselves. Make them energy-sensitive. Nice. This, how far is it from mass production? What do you need to make it work? You will be able to buy it by end of quarter two or starting quarter three. That sounds like it's finished design. Yes, it does. And the mass production of the Perovskia solar panels. Yeah, it will be happening. Yes, it will be done in Switzerland. You have a production capacity. If you want to have a look, I can show you our facility. So you can imagine devices like this. Can we make solar? Devices like this can also make solar so that you never have to charge it. And this is a facility. It's a full production plan where we can make several tens of thousands, 200,000 solar cells every year. It's in Abo in Switzerland. You have printed solar, Perovskia manufacturer. Yes, roll to roll. No, it's sheet to sheet. Is it the best Perovskia manufacturing facility in the world? That we don't know of. But yeah, we deliver world-class products. And the yield or the efficiency is some of the best in the world for a flexible panel. Actually, it's more than that. We, our solar, can provide enough power to run the devices at an industrial level of design. That is very important. That's why we say we make solar sexy so that it makes the products look amazing. Industrial level? Yes, industrial level design. You should have an industrial finish. Did you have a lot of meetings with the Swiss watches, makers? We are in talks with many of them. Because you could add this to any. Like, you know, when you change the bracelet on a watch, you change on any watch. Yes. And you add smart functionality to it. Yes, that's the idea. And you can, in theory, does this one have connectors on each side, potentially, to connect and provide smart functionality to an e-display or something here? Yeah, yeah, it can be possible. But this is one of the products for one of our customer, Barakota Group. But we enable for more, like, it can be different functionalities all together. You can imagine a solar in a safe-sized design and the way you want to integrate. And we help you in doing that. So if you want to add, there's a little battery in there? Yes. And if you want to add connectors to this part? Yeah, it could be possible. And add power to that? It's possible. I think so. It could be possible. All right. How old is your company? You said just on 15, is that a company? We are very, very, very young company. We were founded in 11, 11, 2021. But we are working on this technology from 2015. All right. Is it out of the university? It's a spin-off of EMPA. It's in Dubendorf. It's a research center from the Swiss federal government. Yeah. All right. In the last 15 months, now we have 15 customers. And we are working. We are trying to enable the solar on many different kinds of devices, like gas-sensing devices and smart home office devices. So we have two market segments. One is the consumer electronic device. Like, imagine a board like this. And if you put a solar on this and leave it on your desk, voila, every day you will have one to two hours of music for free. And the second segment is the industrial IoT and IoT devices, where we can make a lot of sensing and not just self-sufficient. Because you need to have IoT devices on bridges, and tunnels everywhere. Yes, everywhere. There is a little bit of light. Our solar will work. And not in a tunnel, yeah. Yeah, of course. OK, but a little bit of sunlight. And then how about this technology on the roof of houses? Is that your target? At the moment, we are not focusing on that, because we have enough interest from the consumer electronic segment, as well as from the IoT segment. So I think for a startup, focus is key. Is there a good price on this kind of device? Is it going to be possible that it will not be so expensive? Yes, at the moment, it's very economical. So even at this early stage, even at this very early stage, we are very competitive with pricing. So in the future, thanks to you, charging and batteries and everything will be a thing of the past. And it will be only in storage, you tell the kids, at night. It will not be our target at Perovskia would be to eliminate as many batteries as possible. We believe IoT devices should not have batteries. On the other side, electronic devices should have a solar low power consuming device. It should be harvesting their own energy through light. It's free energy. The sun is free. It's forever unlimited. Yes, 100%. And everything, every energy on the planet is almost coming from the sun. And why not to harness it even indoors? Even petrol is 200 million years ago when something happened with the sun. It's the plant juice. And what's it called? A device like this is going to work for, you know, like when you buy a Fetech Philippe, it's supposed to last for three generations. Yes. How long is the life of the technology? Is it going to be good for a long time? At the moment, as per our, all the testing that we have done it should retain 80% of the performance after 10 years. That's lasting more than the life cycle of most of the electronic devices. How does it compare with other solar? Compared to the, imagine, silicon PV that lasts 25 years outdoors but it doesn't work inside, especially monocrystalline silicon. So in indoor conditions where we have mixed indoor, outdoor sunlight, or just indoor lighting conditions, our solar select cells in both performance. Cool. All right. Thanks a lot. Thank you for it to see as Swiss watches dominate the future. Don't sell it to the Apple guys. I'm joking. Thank you. I'm happy to sell it to anyone who wants to make their devices energy self-sufficient. Nice. Cool. Awesome. I'll give you my card, right? I'll give you it again. I'll give you it. Right here. Thank you. It was live one hour in the video. It was live. Tonight, I will use it as a separate video. That's all. That's all. If you want, I'll give you my card. And maybe we do a video in Lausanne or Obanne. Yeah, I live very near. Yeah. Maybe I come by and we do some videos. Right? Do you know some other guys who are not far from your office? Lausanne and stuff like this guys from Lausanne. Any other? Any other? Which one? Which one here? Something like this. Okay. Let me try to make a video with them. Hello. Bonjour. Bonjour. Yeah, you better sit down. Can I do a video with you? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Sure. Ask anyone from Lausanne. Yeah. Sure. All right. Do you want to stand over here? No, it's only me. No, you are the one. Instead of me, then do you need a video? No. How much? Yeah. It's live stream. Ah, okay. I live not far from your office. Also, if you want, you can do videos again in the future. In Lausanne? Come by. Yeah. Half an hour from there. Okay. You are the one. You can all speak. That's much you want. Okay, so we can continue working like this. I mean, you don't need that we say anything. I don't know. You need to speak to the camera. Ah, okay. Say what we do, this kind of things. Yeah. Ah, okay. Ask questions, okay? You will ask questions. Is it okay? Okay, that's fine. Cool. Okay, let's do like this. Hi. So please introduce yourself. Yeah. Hi, I'm Claudio Alberti. I'm a CTO and co-founder of Genomsys. We have developed software for genomic data analysis. What do you analyze? So we analyze DNA, DNA of people, DNA of pets. We have developed software to enable people to download their DNA into mobile app. I am here in my phone, so we have an app here enabling people to download their data and then run tests. For example, these are a set of tests of pharmacogenomics. You can, for example, analyze how my DNA impacts the way I metabolize aspirin. In this case, you see the result is pretty good on the green side. So, in principle, my body is able to process aspirin. In any case, if I want to share the result with my physician, I can do that by simply sending the result of the test to 21, I wish. I can also share the entire genome. So, sorry, here, let me see. Here I can select my DNA, this is my DNA, and I can decide to share parts of my DNA with anyone wishing to access it for several reasons, for example, research. And I can do the same with my dog DNA. So also pets DNA can be downloaded in the app and analyzed. So is it true that you can see in a DNA all this stuff and it's actually scientific that there are, for example, the aspirin or something else? Yes. So, all the tests we run here is based on scientific knowledge. So we have taken publication in literature, in journals, and this is, let's say, supported by scientific knowledge. For example, there's also a whole domain of nutrigenomics saying how your DNA impacts the way you digest and metabolize food. Examples you can talk about, maybe show on the phone, like what are the list of things that are very interesting to get out of this? We have a test implemented here, carrier press screening. So it is a test that is especially conceived for the Middle East population, for populations where consanguinity is very high, so people getting married in the same family. And we can check up to 400 potential variants. So I completed. In my case, I have no variation detected because I'm not from that region. But in these regions, they have up to 20% presence of genetic disease related to the fact that people get married from the same family. So this test is testing 400 positions of DNA looking for variants related to this rare disease. And it runs locally in the phone, no data sharing. So essentially, you are sure that your results are not shared with anyone unless you want to do that. Do you need to give blood at a lab or somewhere where they read your DNA? Yeah, exactly. So to get your DNA sequenced, you need to send your samples, skin, saliva, hair or blood to a laboratory. And the laboratory will sequence your DNA to produce the file that then is processed by our software. Are there like thousands and thousands of amazing things you could potentially do? Yeah, sure. I mean, we're just developing the software to do that. But then there are plenty of companies working on different kind of tests from food and manufacture cosmetic labs to suggest cosmetics for your skin. And the field of application is very wide. Is it possible that I could check my DNA and it'll tell me I can just eat as much Kentucky fried chicken I want or something like that. I'm joking. But where some people are more less likely to have heart attacks or something like that, is that the DNA? Yeah, it can tell you how you metabolize alcohol. So there are people digesting very well alcohol. So you can drink many more beers than other people. Or there are people who cannot digest dairy products, for example, cheese and this kind of thing. It's all in DNA. Yeah. Some of it is all in DNA. But some of these things are in your DNA. Allergies is not in DNA. Intolerance. So intolerance to lactose, for example, allergies, it's still under research. And so we know how to sequence the whole DNA. Most of it. That's what we know how to do. The question is what it means. That's still a big question, right? Exactly. So the point is that you sequence your DNA once, but the knowledge about your DNA evolves. So that's why you can get updates on your DNA on what is known. So the DNA doesn't change, but the knowledge on the DNA updates and changes and evolves. Do you want to keep it private? You don't want to share your DNA with your insurance company, right? Or maybe? Well, it depends. If you're in good health, your insurance company could make you a very good price, a huge discount. And if it's not good DNA, they kick you out. Yeah, well, this is a good, good legislation matter. Okay. In Switzerland, hopefully, they don't think about it. Right. Some countries that are already thinking about it. Yeah. All right. You adjust the startup? Yes. We are a Swiss startup. We were born in Lausanne, out of the EPL. Now we have offices in Lausanne and Lugano. All our headcount is in Switzerland, but we are looking to expand even in other countries. And how much is it cost to get your DNA sequence with one of your partners that does it? Well, it goes anywhere between $150 and $500. That's it? Yeah, it's not so expensive. According to the quality of the data, the price can change. So it's not only for rich people? No, no. And the price is going down every year. It's all been every 18 months. 10 years ago it cost a million? 10 years, yes. 10 years ago it was $100,000 and now it's $150,000 to $100,000. Wow, that's amazing. So how many percent of the Swiss population do you think has done it, the sequence yet? Still very small? Very small. It's very small. It's increasing, but it's still very small. Maybe not for the cost, but it's more for the difficulty to handle these very large files, you know, because these are large files and normal people don't know how to handle that. How many gigabytes? Between 50 gigabytes to 100 gigabytes. Wow. With our compression technology, this can go down to 10 to 12. So my genome here in my phone is 10 gigabytes because we use special compression. You put it in your phone? Yeah, I have it here in my phone, 10 gigabytes. It's compressed using MPEG. MPEG is a compression standard like it's the MP3 for genomics and can reduce 50 gigs to... MPEG. Yeah, MPEG and it can reduce 50 gigabytes file to 10 gigabytes. And then you run all the AI stuff in your app? Not yet. Or in the cloud? Well, the AI stuff, we have no AI engine for now, but we could do that to further analyze. But AI will run most probably in the cloud, not on a mobile phone. But now you run a bunch of stuff on the phone? Yeah, now everything runs in the phone. The testing and the mutation detection is in the phone. Then if you want to do AI and more in-depth research, you have to share your data with the cloud. Because some of the modern phones on the SoC, they have some accelerators for neural networks, all this kind of stuff. Yeah, maybe in the future. Or they have GPU or the CPU. Which part, you just use the CPU? For now it's just CPU. It's not so computationally intensive, but you need a lot of RAM, of memory. So that's why for now the processing is limited. And it's only for Android, I'm joking, but also iPhone. We have iOS and Android, yes. Right, and you will partner with very big companies? Is that the next step? We are negotiating the first contracts with very large companies. And we are growing this year. Alright, thanks a lot. Thank you. Have you seen anyone else do something similar? Not entirely on the phone. So existing services provide these kind of things in the cloud. You upload your data in the cloud, they process it, and they give you results, but they keep the data. So very few of them enable you to download the files, but typically you can just store in your PC, and you don't know what to do with that. You are the only ones providing data download and processing in your mobile phone. And if you are the father of the family, you want to do it for all the children, everybody, and the wife, and you put everything on one phone? Yeah, I would do that with my children. You test the whole family and you check something? Exactly, yeah, you could do that. And you could adapt your diet, your food to your DNA profile. You might understand why some of your children can digest better food with respect to another one. And the whole diet by genome is science? It's not... The science is evolving, some of it is more precise, some other science is still under development, but some of the science is already there, yes. All right, thanks a lot. So you have my card right there? Yeah, sure. The video will go there. I will take all my cards. Is that what you're giving me? Thanks. Cool, thanks a lot. And if you want to do videos in Lausanne, okay, see you. Do you know any other startups from Lausanne or nearby? From Lausanne? I know Wipad, Pro-Rov-Skea. Lausanne or no... Somewhere nearby, in the Comptembre or Genève. No, no, no. For practice, yeah. To be honest, no, I don't know. Do you know if there's like the organizers of this Swiss... Is this an organizer of the organizers? Yes, they're there. You see? Behind there? Yeah, yeah, there. You see that screen? Swisscon, you see that screen? Swisscon, there Swisscon. Okay, cool, thank you. I'll be kidding you. Okay, see you. See you maybe in O'Bahn. Swisscon. See if I can go... See if I can chat with some of these girls. Take a break. I'll put you in a break for a second. What do you mean I'm wasting a lot of footage? I'll put you in a break for a second. I'll put you in a break for a second. The quality is good. Because those three megabits that I use, it's my whole recording. And it's basically... And becomes on demand. It's a completely different way for me to do my video blogging. Because it's live. And it just keeps going out, hopefully with not too many drop frames. I love these things. They're so comfortable to work on. Really comfortable. I feel like I'm floating. And I'm... It doubles my walking speed. And this guy is crashing. Let's go this way. There's your banana now. Alright, so if you're watching this, you can go to the Mobile World Congress website. And look for exhibitors. Look for the map. And if you want, you can help me figure out where to go. What to film. What to not miss. Oh, I forgot to go to the Japanese startups. But I'll try to catch them tomorrow. The Wall Street Journal is here. That's Johanna. Yes. So now, what I want to film is... I did a little list of my app. I want to film with the... Huawei Whole One. There's a real me. Whole Seven. Okay. That means I have to go back. Because Whole Seven is right here. Right? Oh, it gets tiring to hold with one hand. Let me see if Whole Seven is right here. And out of my... Whole Seven and techno. Yeah, let's get real me and techno. Because... Mobile World Congress is also... consumer device. Is it Whole Seven here? Yeah. That's Whole Seven. Let's go check out the techno. Right? So I'm back down to one little... thing on his battery. Do you know if I can do video with somebody? Interview? How about the new products? Yeah. Both. Let me give you my card. Right there. Yeah, with 90 million views on my YouTube. And they'd be cool... Where are you based? Shenzhen? I want to go to Shenzhen in April. After Hong Kong Fair. Maybe I can do videos in your office. Or even in your factory. Do you want to show the factory for this? Shenzhen? Yeah. Do you make any of these laptops with the ARM CPU? Or only Intel? No Qualcomm or MediaTek CPU? Okay. You planning maybe? Maybe. Because MacBook, you know, it's ARM CPU. Everybody needs to go... Maybe. Not yet. And the foldable one is the most affordable one in the market? Yes. Good price? Yeah. Hopefully. 900... Before... Below 1000. Yes. Nice. Early bird. So who is good to make an interview for me? Who can I interview about this? To talk about the product. And say, hey, welcome to Techno. Here's the product. To show everything. Who's the best to talk? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Let me go. I'll turn this around right now. So I'm at the Techno. I'm going to speak with people. All right. I'm checking out the chat. There's nothing much harder in the trailer, so... What are you saying? You don't have to recall my face, right? Oh, you have to. I have to... Yeah. You're going to show it. Your problem. It's good. So you know what? Yes. We actually... This is the smartphone lines. And then based on the smartphone, we have the IoT product lines. So today, now you can do the IoT product first. And then later, I find my colleague who's in charge of the smartphone. And they will introduce you to the fans. Is that okay? So you're doing me first? Which one? Which one do you want to start? Here? You can do a lot like a bunch. Let me check right here. Or come this way. I think I need to because it's beautiful. There's a lot of light coming from there. Am I looking beautiful here? It's a bright logo. No, the logo is very bright. It's no problem. Okay. So you see my face as well? Yeah. You hold this phone? It's a cool phone. Okay. You can hold it. Hold on. Let me... One second. Okay. So please introduce yourself. Welcome to Techno. So here's the Techno AIoT. We have our flash version of the Magaboo S1 2020 version. Oh, sorry. Let me talk a little bit to the microphone there. It's strange, but it's only when I do like this. So when I come back, it's okay. You see, if I come here, I need you to come a little bit forward to speak to the mic. Okay. Because it's directional. Okay. Let's try again. Okay. And we're here at Techno. Hi. Hi. Welcome to Techno. So here is the AIoT. And I will introduce you our flash version of the Techno Magaboo S1 series with the 2020 version. So this is our Magaboo S1. And we actually offer a super mega screen with the 3.2K high resolution and with the screen to 4D ratio of 90 percent degrees. 90 percent degrees. And what's the most impressive is we cooperate with the latest Intel Core 13th generation i7 processors. So it's really high performance with another highlight, which is out trusting. You can see the thing. It's only 13.5. And also the weight is 1.5 kilograms. So it's very easy to carry around. It's very easy to carry away. And it's very shiny. It's the ice blue-white color. It's very elegant. With the different lines of the shape, you can see whites and blues in the face. So it's got a powerful Intel and a great display. 3.2K. Yes. And the price is good. Yes, the price. Also we have the 16 gigabytes of the range. And we have up to 1TB SSD storage. And we also can get the high performance release up to 35 watts. So it's really a high performance laptop. And we have the, like, tunnel book, any technosystem. And they're offering the AI camera to success with the AI meeting with the voice pick up. With the human voice AI pick up. It's really convenience for business-creative person to use this laptop. And that's one thing that's very impressive. Can you just stop for a while? Let me find one. Let me find one here. No, I'm actually looking for the... We have the very impressive thing is the charger. Ah, the charger? Yeah, but... It's very small. Yes. And it's high power? This is the 65 watts with the gain charger. It's the smallest charger of the laptop series. And it will not overheat. It's good quality. Yes. It's safe. It's 65 watts. Yes. Nice. And is that the only product you have with a 65 watt charger? It's actually matched for all the MacBook series. And I also want to show you something that's very impressive with our techno smartphone. Let me reconnect it here. Can you wait for a while? So let's do it. So this is our techno smartphone. We have the one-leap ecosystem. You just put the phone close to your... Sorry, let me unlock first. Unlock first. Unlock first. Unlock first and then close to the laptop. We have the NFC, it will automatically connect. So this is not the final version so sometimes it has... One? Okay. Here you go. What's that for soon? So normally you just put right here... Unlock camera. You just put on the touch panel and then it will automatically clean up. Nice. And then it shows your phone right there. Yes. As long as it's unlocked. Yes. And that's what's something really cool is... We don't do zoom. We can do this via chance where we are only three fingers. You can see it right here. Let's do the please the left. Please the left. And three fingers right. It's immediately to the laptop. Did you see that? Yes. Nice. So what's the price? This is my Panasonic camcorder as I showed. It still doesn't have perfect auto focus. Okay. Let's continue right here. I have to change battery. Sorry. I interrupted. So let's continue. Yes. What did I do? What did I just do? Yeah. So what was the price? Okay. So the price... It really depends on the market. It's about $1,300 in the US dollars. Around $1,000. So we have the five 12GB and also... One terabyte. One TIGabyte. One TIGabyte. Nice. That's cool. And then you have smaller ones there. This is the fastest one this year? Yeah, this is the premium one with the i7 of the T-E generation. And also we have the T1 is our first laptop of the technology. So this is the first... This is the first laptop. So many of our works. You want to record that as well? And here you have another one. A smaller one. T1. T1 is also the new model of this year. We have made the 14 inches with the... Size. Size. Bondless vision. And also we have the upgraded battery with 75 watts. So it can support up to 18.5 hours of usage. Nice. That's really good. And we got the best of the final. Best of Mobile 100s for laptops. Alright. And you have Kali who can talk about the phone? Yes. And here also I was thinking... We have a little... TIG device is a flagship. Oh, it's a nice opening. Satisfying. Hi. Hi. Hi. Can I take a picture with you? Sure. Yeah. So you get some lights together. Hold on. Hold on. I'm not quite sure. We have to talk to the Phantom PR director. Hold on. Okay. Yeah. It's nice here. There's a lot of light. All the same? Yeah. All the same. Phantom V Fold. Nice. Soon it will be $500. That's five. Big hooker. Beginning $1,000. Yeah. Maybe a few months later, $500? Maybe. It depends. I can hope. Yeah. But it depends. If you sell it for $500, people will win. No more something better. But I have... Yeah, sure. But... No more Huawei. You can get the price. Yeah. Maybe... Sorry, where are you from? Let me give you my card. Oh, no, this is not my card. Sorry. There. I did videos about... Switzerland? Yeah. And his group is... Richard. It's really... How do you say it in Switzerland? Richard. Switzerland. How do you say it in... Richard. Yeah, that's it. And it's like a dream country for all Chinese. You're welcome. Yeah. You give me one phone? I invite you. It's really good. Cool. Hello. How are you? I'm good. Can I make a video? Yeah. That'd be awesome. Great. So, I'll give someone a chance to... Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. You're welcome. One more. All right. Let's give you... I was telling him, I'm from Richard. Switzerland. Is that... How do you say it? Richard. Richard. Richard. Richard. Yeah. Richard. OK. And you already have that. Yeah. OK. Cool. Can I have your card also? You're the big boss? Kind of. Yeah. Cool. Yeah. Yeah. She's in charge of our public relationship department. Yeah. OK. Cool. Yeah. Because it's a kind of difficult and complex. So, sometimes we'll have to confirm if the video is OK. Yeah. OK. Thank you so much. OK. It's OK. OK. Let's do a cool video. OK. Sure. Right. Sure. Here we go. All right. Yep. And we're here at the techno. Hi. Hi. Hi. So, please introduce yourself. Yeah. I'm Yun and working for a techno company. And this is our first photo perform. You can fold it and unfold it. It's really an incredible product. And you see there's no gap here. Because we use it. No gap. Yeah. No gap and no seam here when you fold it. Because we use a different structure of the hinge here. We use like a water drop structure. And so there is no gap. And if you unfold it, you will find that this is a really very, very shallow crease here. It's really smooth. Maybe you have tried it. Yep. This from the outlook. And we don't feel too much in the middle. Yeah. Of course. It's really smooth. Maybe you can have a try. Yeah. It's really good. It's perfect. Yeah. It's really smooth. Ultra flat one. And one bright as a get is getting bright, high quality. Yeah. Of course. Of course. We self develop a fixed access rotation technology to further shallow the crease here. It's really pretty interesting. And for our phone, we use MTK Dimensity 9000 plus for the CPU. And we use Android 13 operating system. And for the photographic system, we got five lens HD high Dimensity photographic system. This is a 51 and 51 and 32 and 16. And then 16. We got five lens quality cameras. Yeah. Sure. Of course. The best. Yeah. I'm not going to say the best, but it's a leading level in the industry. Yeah. It's really good. Maybe you can try. And for what we use a battery at 5000mAh, it's a large battery. Yeah. Is it on each side? It's both sides. Both sides. Two sides. Yeah. And for screen, because we use two screens here. Main screen and a sub screen. Both screens are high quality screens. For main screens, we use 2000 plus Dimensity screen. It's really, really clear. The main screen is done. This is the main screen? Yeah. The big one? Yeah. Yeah. 2000 plus high Dimensity. 2000 times. 2000. Yeah. Yeah. Four million. Yeah. Of course. More. Yeah. Sub screen. Yeah. It looks good. Yeah. Of course. It's really clear and brilliant. Yeah. Yeah. It's nice. Really nice. And for, let me introduce our operation system. Because if you open your main screen, then open an app, then there's a control banner. You sweep it down and you can open another app here. It's for the multitasking. Yeah. It's very convenient. And if you want another mode, like small window or parallel windows, you can just grasp it. You can get smooth. Oh. Yeah. And get something in the middle. Yeah. Now in the middle, you can drag it along. Drag it along? Yeah. You can make it a little bit bigger? Yeah. Of course. Yeah. This is bigger. Anything else like this? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Of course. You can drag it along. And it's for the multi-tasking. It's for the video meeting. And then you open the meeting. And you can do other things, like you open another. Yeah. There's your grasp. And then you need to. You have two next to each other? Yeah. Of course. You can, well, maybe you can imagine this is a video meeting here. And then you can revise your war PPT here. It's like four. Can you also make the PPT smaller at the same time? Yeah. Of course. Of course. We can make small. It's like, when you open it, it's like here. Only one at a time, huh? No. Up to four windows. Because you like windows. Yeah. And you open another one. And you can get grasp it. Because it's lightning. It's natural. Because it's a prototype here. I would don't update the software. Eventually maybe you can have four windows at home? Yeah. Yeah. Of course. We can get up to four windows. Yeah. It's really good. And for other things, maybe like, oh, I'll show you. I think it's one of the best function here. You can enter like a driving mode here in the setting and you enter it. Then you get a drive mode. You find the Google map here where you drive the car. You can see the Google map, the big one in the middle. And there is also the, maybe like Spotify. You can play some music here. And it's like a fast button for maybe leading to your family or leading to your company. It's really great. And you can go full screen if you want? I mean, this part can be bigger or it's only with this surround? With this surround. Because it's like a drive mode. We divided this mode because we consider that for a conventional phone, you have to exchange from one app to another. It's not so safe. What would be nice is a full screen mode. You click and you go back to this and go back to this. Maybe you don't want this all the time. Yeah, of course. But it's amazing to have it. But it should be one click away. This for another, maybe like a Spotify. And then you got your contact here. You can get a call someone and then for other apps. It's really brilliant. It's nearly the same size as the Tesla display. Yeah, sure. Of course. You feel like you have a huge display when you're driving. So I really recommend you for this Phantom V4. The first mobile phone of our company is Techno. It's really brilliant. And the first market will be India. The sale price is about $1,099. And we also got an early burn price. It's like about $979. It's really brilliant. I think you must have tried it. Yeah, it's the first one. It's a MediaTek Dimensity 9000 Plus. Yeah. 9200 or 9000? 9000 Plus. Yes. So it's the best MediaTek. Yeah, one of the best. One of the best chips of MediaTek. Yeah, that's the brief introduction for a product. Is there any chance that when you connect the Type-C... Yeah, sure. ...it does a video out? Yeah. It doesn't output the... Because there's no HDMI. Maybe you can get a transfer plug-in. And then you can show your videos in a large screen. I think that's also good. Potentially. It has the support. Yeah. But right now... Of course. This is a Type-C. Yeah. I mean, you can support maybe like a transfer plug-in. And then you can transfer Type-C for maybe like HDMI and to show your video on the big screen. That's really great. I cannot plan to do desktop mode. Desktop UI. When you export to a different display. Yeah. Like Huawei, Samsung. Yeah. They do DeX. Yeah, sure. For different markets, we got different strategies. First is India. And for the next market, we have to get our business consideration based on the retail results of India. So it depends. And I'm not quite sure about the specific schedule. Maybe just wait for it. Yeah. Is there a headphone check? Yeah. No. Headphone check is maybe only for Bluetooth. Forgot. Yeah. For Bluetooth. Somebody asking in the chat. But you just use Bluetooth headphones or Type-C headphones? Both. Both. I have to say both. You can also support for Bluetooth and also for Type-C headphones. Yeah. This is exciting because everybody else is more expensive, no? Yeah, sure. Everybody. Yeah, sure. Nobody is this price? Nobody. Our first phone is the cheapest one in the market. But the first market would be India. So though we don't enter some market, you can still find our products through some of our distributors like in Western Europe. Though we don't officially enter the market, you can still find our products. Why you don't officially enter? Actually, as though we are a Chinese company, but we focus on frontier markets like Africa, Latin America, Middle East Asia, and Middle East and Southeast Asia, some markets like that. Huge markets. Very big. India is big. Yeah, they are huge markets. And many people want this phone over there. And it's getting to more and more affordable. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Of course, you know, the early bird price is about a bit higher than $900. It's much cheaper than something called for. Yeah, I think it's really kind of affordable. Maybe you can have a try. Is there any chance before the end of the year it can be $500? No chance? You cannot say. Of course you cannot say. But that's what I want to see. I want to see this one for $500 available worldwide. Yeah, of course. Of course. But we have to consider about the cost, the producing cost. Manufacturing. Yeah, of course. Guys, it's like we have to consider about our income statement because we got published. We got listing in the share market in China. Yeah. Can you say who made the display or a secret? Is it D.O.E. or Samsung or somebody? I know, but it's a business secret. I have to say it's one of... Maybe it's Chinese. Yeah, it's one of... It's very good quality. Yeah, it's one of our Chinese companies. For the display, for the screens. The quality is amazing. Yeah, of course. Of course. Yeah. And warranty is for a long time? Yeah, of course. Can be confidence. It will not be like have a problem. Yeah, of course. We fold it. We get the test in the laboratory condition. We fold it for over 200,000 times. And we found that the depth of the crease is still less than 0.2 millimeters. It's really brilliant. Because the number for a new one is about 0.11 millimeter. And it's almost half of that of the Samsung 4.4. Yeah, we have tested. And for the life expectancy, I think it's more than four to five years. I have to say four to five years. Four to five years, not four to five years. I don't think any smartphone can support that one. All right. What is going to fail first? The display or the touch? Because the touch have to be very stable when it's folding all the time also. Yeah, of course. It's also a challenge. Yeah. Not only the display. Yeah, because we self-develop a lot of technologies. It's not so easy to realize it. As you see, we invented this product about one to two years ago. And at that time, MTK Dimensity 9000 Plus is the newest product, newest chip for MTK. But now there is 9200. Yeah. But we also spend a lot of time realizing this shadow crease. It's kind of typical. Make sure it doesn't overheat. It's stable. Yeah, of course it's stable. Good performance. Yeah, of course. Of course. It's massive, I have to say. And people want to play games on a big display like this. Yeah, sure. But because... Is it possible to play games in this form factor? Yeah, it depends. It depends. For some apps, we support up to 2,000 apps. They suit the large screen mode. And Global Top 1000 Plus apps suit both large screen mode. And also split screen. But for some games, I have to say it depends on the game company. We have to optimize for... What about the black bar? Yeah, yeah. No. It depends. I have to say. For some games, it will be black bar because we need more time to optimize things. But for Global Top 1000 Plus games, it's okay. We have optimized them for the large screen. And when you browse the internet, I guess, and when you check your email, it's a great experience. Yeah, of course. Yeah, of course. Yeah, you see, because we get a lot of mods for multitasking, you can check... You feel like you have a... Yeah, you can get free to exchange from one app to another. It's really free. I think it's very worth it for you to try this product. If you have come to Barcelona, maybe you can come to our place and have a try. It's really pretty. This is a chance for everybody to have a tablet in the pocket. So the tablet market could potentially be much bigger. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the app developer will make better apps for tablets and better apps for this phone. Yeah, as everybody knows, there are many of us that use the portable phones now. And they found that it's easy to carry with them and they don't need to get another tablet. So it's like... It's a substitution for both our conventional phone and the tablet. And it's much more convenient. Yeah. And I guess apps like Gmail will open big and small as the same app in two different ways. Yeah, it's the same. That's how they do it, right? If you look at the external display or this display, it will show different UI. Yeah, of course. Of course. Yeah, that's why we spend a lot of time to optimize them for our operation system. Yeah, you can see, of course... Let me show you. You see? Because it's like a high OS fold operation system. It's different from the operation system of our conventional phones. It's different. We spend a lot of time on it. Yeah, it's like high OS fold. It's different from high OS. So we... It supports, of course. Yeah. Cool. All right. Thanks a lot. Yeah, it's okay. Thank you for your time. Yeah, thanks. Thanks. It's kind of finishing now for today. So thanks for watching. I think your phone is here. Maybe I can catch them. I was trying to find real me, but I'm not sure how to find their booth. Hey. Hello. Hey. Can I do an interview? About what? About the cool new products. Okay. With you? Okay. Yeah? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Do you have one? Phone? You can show? The coolest one. One second. Perfect. Okay. One second. So we're here at Yulei Phone. Hi. Yulei Phone. Hi. So who are you? We are a Chinese company. We focus on the rocket smartphone. And what is this? Our latest model. Armor 20WD. It's a walkie-talkie phone. As you can see, it comes with a walkie-fisher antenna here. It also can be detachable and take it to your pocket. Nice. So it's very... Can you hold it like this? So it's very rugged. It will not break? Yeah, it will not break. The display is strong? Yeah, the display is strong. And the shield is strong. Waterproof, IP68 waterproof, also sharp proof. It's ideal for outdoor use. It's bulletproof. Sometimes, kind of. And what other phones are you showing here? There's a lot of phones around the table here. Are they all the same or different? Different. We have different models. We have different models. Let me show you the... Armor 21. The phone is the last bigger. Wow. Okay, lower. Okay, okay. The copyright. I don't have a contract with Michael Jackson. Okay, because it's very loud. And it comes with a ring light on the back. When you go outdoors, you can have a party overnight. Nice. That's cool. That's awesome. I'm afraid of music. Okay, okay. Let's play it down. Okay. That's awesome. Big speaker. Which other phone do you have? The phone. You also come with... The phone with the magnetic feature. With the Apple like MagSafe. MagSafe. Yeah, with the Apple like MagSafe. It's compatible with the Apple MagSafe gadgets. This phone also comes with lucky features. I'll be talking to you in a minute. It's an IK. And one OAM MacPixel camera. One OAM MacPixel camera here. Nice. And all these phones you have. They're all drop test. You test them. They fall. They never break. Yeah, we want to see the test. You sure? It's okay. Okay, it's okay. I'm afraid a little bit. It's okay? Okay, let's try. Oh my God. Oh no. Oh no. You have to buy a new one. No? The back is okay. Oh my God. Really? It's wakeable. Nothing wrong. Nothing wrong. This was... It's not a concrete floor. But if people climb. If people work. If people are tooling and biking. This is the phone to get. Yeah, it's the phone to get. It's possible. If they live in a van. Amazing van with a conversion and everything. They can get one of these phones and climb and stuff. During the afternoon. Make phone for many years, no? Yeah. It's work in the ice. Yeah. We focus on rocket phone for many years. Around 10 years. For the OS market. But you focus on many different phones before. Yes. Not only rocket. Yes. Now we focus on rocket phone. We made a back's rocket phone for our customers and our partners. Is this a case? Yeah, it's a case. It has a dedicated design for our phones. Not for other phones. Just for our phones. If the case can... It's not detachable. It can hang up. Cut to your belt. Cool. Alright. And what do we have here? We also have many accessories for our phones. You make tablets? Yeah, we also make tablets. Common tablets. Our Chrome? Tablets. This is the thermal imaging. Can you show it? What is that? Just an example here. To showcase the thermal imaging camera. So it's what's inside the phone. And the thermal imaging. The NFC. Yeah. To see inside. This phone comes with the thermal imaging camera from FLIR. The most professional thermal imaging camera provider from FLIR. You can see the environment market with different colors to help you to... To show that you're healthy. To see the temperature difference around the environment. I could see your bones. Yeah, you can see. It's scary. Because it comes with the different temperature. Our bones, my skin. And also when you maybe... Again, it's where the buildings. Maybe some water leak. It can tell you where the leak it is. Can you see with this if people are carrying a gun? If the gun has some kind of temperature. If the gun is hot enough it can tell you. If it was used recently. Yes. Yeah. All right. There you have all the tablets. And it's interesting to see how it is inside. Reliable. How long is your warranty? We have one year warranty. One year? Yeah. One year for all our lucky phones. Is that a chainsaw? What is this? How is the engine to show you? Just this. To showcase the endoscope. Oh. This endoscope has two cameras. And there you can film in the end of something. Yeah, you can see the thing inside. You can see the screen here. Oh. There it is. Oh, you help you see the thing inside. Oh. Endoscope. That's deep inside the... You can change the camera. You can see different angle of the engine inside. Cool. Wow. That's cool. Okay. We also have microscope expansion. As you can see, you can see the thing very close. How does it connect here? We made a dedicated internal expansion part. It's not just a type C? Not a type C. Type C is most stable enough. We made a new smart expansion part. You can see the hook here. You see the screw here. And you get a free stable. Cool. That's fantastic. How many different adapters do you have? So you have the microscope. Endoscope. Endoscope. Endoscope. This is microscope, right? Yeah, this is microscope. Endoscope. And... This is the more advanced microscope. You can change the angle. Why this controller? That's crazy. You can move the angle. You can move the angle. And the angle camera. You can see all the things inside. It's true. Wow. That's cool. And that's the same connector? Yeah, same connector. So this connector is only for your phone? Yeah, only for your phone. It's safe and stable. And what is the name of this phone? That supports this. Every uniform or only some? Country only some. But in the future we may as more models support this part. Eternal part. This one is the Uniform Power Armor 18T. Come with the... 18. Come with the temperature sensor. So the temperature sensor next to the camera there. Yeah, mixed camera. Nice. You can sense any temperature of people or things. Any temperature. The temperature of people. Because external camera. This is the internal night vision camera. The phone will already out of power for this. Out of power. You can also get... This one comes with night vision camera. When you come to the normal camera. You can see the thing inside. But with night vision camera. You can see the same things. Even with no light at all. That's a very special camera. It's not like night mode on the one way. It's different. You can see the things clearly. Even with no light at all. That's amazing. And there's more and more things. What is this thing? It's the internal imaging camera. But now it's just a prototype. You can see the thermal imaging in this phone. We integrated into this phone. But for some of our models. It doesn't come with thermal imaging camera. Like this phone. So you can... Also you use this port to connect to our other phones. What does it do? Thermal imaging camera. It's tunnel imaging. Same like the FLIR. It comes from the FLIR like this. So it's kind of like a thermal selfie camera. Maybe just like... You can be selfie. Selfie camera. Alright. That's crazy. Somebody is saying in the chat. You like Jens Bond tool kit. You like Mr. Q. You are giving all the gadgets to Jens Bond. Maybe Jens is our best friend. Where's my Aston Martin? Where's my car? Where's my car? The special car with the rockets. Maybe just on the strong floor. Okay. Cool. Is there a little speaker here? Hi, speaker. This phone has a picture, the magnetic feature. The apple is magnetic face. So it's just a magnet. Magnet. Which is not every phone have this. More every phone. Just this model. Come with the magnetic feature. It compatible with Apple's mega-safe gadgets. That's so cool. Here you have just a very normal nothing special. Headphones. The headphones. Yes. Our customers sometimes ask, do you have some Bluetooth ear bus? It doesn't include thermal imaging or microscope in your ear or something. No, no, no. Just a normal ear bus for our customers. They usually ask, do you have the ear bus? Okay. We also provide the ear bus for you. Of quality. And here you can have, on your mountain bike, you can have two rugged phones at the same time. It depends. Or maybe it doesn't have to be. It's a different stance. It depends. You can. What do you do with this? Is that a dock charger? Yes, it's a double charger. This phone comes with a large speaker. With the dock charger, you can turn it into a Bluetooth speaker. That's a Bluetooth speaker. Okay. It looks like this one has one. A phone with a large speaker. All right. But this is just a dock. Just a dock for charge. Do you all use these little pins for charge? Yes, the little pins. All the other ones also? No. Just this model. This model. The big speaker model. Nice. There's a lot of stuff happening here. You have many fans. You have people around the world who love your company and say we want new, new, new. Yes, always. I have many customers. All the ones who want us to produce cool, rugged phones, outdoor devices for them. So... Is that a rugged, old phone tablet? Or is it only the case? Just a model. Okay. Let's wait here for a second. Already in production. They're all ready? Yes, already in mass production, this one. So there you put on your hand the tablet? Yes. With this gadget, you can easily hold the tablet. Nice. This way you can show people... If you don't understand what you're saying, you show them the presentation. Yes, presentation. Or when you walk, you hold this tablet like this way. It's more convenient to walk. That's awesome. And this is built into the tablet or adapter? Adapter. Adapter. If you don't need just get out. Okay. Cool. I've sent like a whole conference or two with a tablet strapped to my hand. I was 2012. Yeah. With a smart glass. So you can use that as your little... Dashboard. You carry it around. Cool. Any other... Is that your smartwatch? Rugged smartwatch? Our Rugged smartwatch. Rugged smartwatch. But still... Runny Android? Not Android, yeah? Not Android. Just other platforms. And this is a different platform or similar? Similar one. That's the square one, the circle one. All right. Any other things you didn't show? We also produced normal phones for our customers like this. Who don't want to be Rugged? Yeah, who don't want to be Rugged. And it's slim. It's better than iPhone, right? I know. Better price. Better price, of course. How much is price? Maybe on one of these? Around $100. $100? I know, $100. Yeah. Why you need to pay $1,000 for Apple when you can have a ULIFONE for $100? But that's the distributor price. What is MQ? How many minimum order they need to do? Like the customer to get this price. Just for one? Just for one. Just for one. For every customer. You don't need to buy a large quality. You don't need to buy $10,000. What's the CPU here? This one can be the Unisox T606. Unisox T606. Who's the Unisoc? Chinese? How many chipset? Chinese? Yes, Chinese chipset. Good one. As powerful as the MediaTag, MediaTag chipset. How come? MediaTag. As powerful as the MediaTag, MediaTag chipset. Is the ARM Cortex something? Something. Is it the ARM Cortex? Let me see. Here, you also have some MediaTags. MediaTag 6.7.3. We also have the MediaTag. And you have the MediaTag Helio. All right. And this is also a good price. Yeah, also a good price. Around $100. A lot of $100. Okay, that's a good price. Thanks. You don't do a rugged foldable phone? Rugged foldable phone. Foldable phone is very hard to do. The rugged foldable phone is very easy to break. So it's very hard to know. And here is your phone. It's been underwater for 20 days. What is this? Is this ours? Is that 18 days? 18 days. 18 days? That's longer than... Did you bring this water tank all the way from China? We put it here. How many days is that? I'm not sure. It's a lot of days. About 100 hours. About how many days? Many days. We break here. And it's waterproof. Dustproof. IP69K. Military standard 810G. And when I look over here, one more thing. This one. Here you're showing dustproof. Dustproof. This one is our walkie-talkie box. Nice. Cool. All right. That's cool. Thank you very much. Okay. Thank you for your video. Thank you. Thank you. I know. You have a YouTube channel? Yeah. If you check my YouTube, I already did your phone before. I did some video. I don't have internet. My internet is on here. And the video was live. Live. Live. Dream. Yeah. I will just make a break here. One second. It's kind of finished for today. There's Ron Hofer over here. What are we doing? We'd like to talk about something in Finland. It's totally possible to do more video. I think there's a higher feature. Looks like they have some smartwatches. Do you want to do a video? Speak about your products? It's too late. It's good? Yeah? Who wants to speak? Yeah? They're normal. You can actually show them. Yeah. What kind of video? Which product do you want to talk about? All this? Yeah. I think smartwatch is okay. What do you say? Smartwatch is okay. Smartwatch? This? Yeah. Do you have other product there? Yeah. I think that is better. Yeah. Let's do like this. We have a 3D printer. Yeah. That's cool. Wait, wait, wait. I don't want... Up to you. Both is cool. Okay. Okay. Okay, yes. You want... Yeah, I'll ask you a question. Hi. Hi, yes. So please introduce yourself. Okay. I'm Levin from HiFuture. HiFuture brand is established since 2016. Now we are selling to more than 50 countries and we have about 4 million users. Where are you based? We are based in Shenzhen, China. China. And you have some really cool looking... Oh, this smartwatch? Yeah, this one. What is the CPU and the OS? Yeah. What do you do here? This smartwatch we are using 1.43 inch AMOLED display and we are using a feature which Bluetooth call and also support longer battery life up to 12 days IP68 waterproof. So basically it is the latest introduced by the latest chipset technology. So... What is the chip? What is the chip? The chip is RTL, Realtek. Realtek? Realtek? Yes. Is it ARM? It's ARM, yes. ARM CPU and 14 days battery? 12 days battery. 12 days battery? Yes. Does it have apps? Yeah, it has apps. It has to connect to apps and then it can support to make sleep management. Also it supports black oxygen, hardware, yes. Alright. Yes. And that's already pre-installed? Yes. What kind of price can be? This lithium price is $99.99. Very affordable. Yeah. For cool looking smartwatch. Yes. Long battery. Yes. There's no chance to do Android wear. It's not Android wear. It's not Android wear. You do it also? Or you only do this? Not now. It's just much more power, right? Yes. Yes, not now. Yes. And so under here it has the heart rate. Heart rate, yeah. Heart rate, yeah. Temperature. Temperature. Let me show you. Temperature. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Temperature. Yes. Heart rate. My hand had to be here. Yeah. My hand had to be here. Wait. Yes. I saw it blink just before. Yeah, yeah. All right. Yes. Reliable heart rate monitor. Yes. ECG. ECG, yes. ECG. ECG. Enable. It's ECG. And to do ECG you have to touch it with your other hand? Yes. You have to control, check it on your app. On your app. Nice. All the other smartwatch you have here have the same function? Same CPU? The same function but we handmade by different material. Different material. For example, this one we make it by Stanley Steel. Stanley Steel, the whole frame by Stanley Steel and the strap by Stanley Steel. So this is the new generation of the smartwatch with top quality of the material. And of course, it supports up to 20 days battery life this month. Cool. Yes. And it's not heavy. It's a little bit heavy. It's like a big watch. 20 days. Yeah, 20 days. How do you charge it? We have a customized charger here. Yes. Just put it on there in the back? Yes. Easy to put it on and then you can use for 20 days. Yes. My smartwatch, I have the charger every day. I have the Samsung. It's like every day. Okay. It cannot last for two days. And also we have an iRail. This iRail we introduce with 3D directional audio technology inside. And, you know, it can friendly use for you to make a phone call without only buy a slide control. And also you can listen music daily. It supports up to five hours battery life. Nice. Yes. What's the price on those glasses? This one we are selling 69 US dollars. 69 US dollars. Nice. Yes. Does the other one have same functionality? Yes. This is another one. It can change. It can change the plan. Oh, wow. Yes. It's compatible with people who have to wear glasses? Yes. It's compatible. It's compatible with hyperglow. You can change the glass based on your pairing. Nice. Yes. And you also do little Bluetooth earphones? Yes. Bluetooth earphones. With good sound quality? Yes. It's amazing sound quality. We have built our own acoustic design inside to make it. It also built in with ENC technology. It can make your phone call quality is much better than normal one. Nice. Yes. So long battery life. Good price. Yes. Yes. Cheaper than the 249 Samsung. No. Of course. Of course. Much cheaper. Much lower price. Much more affordable. How much? Maybe. This one little price is 29, 39 something like that. 29 US dollar. That's a good price. Very good price. And at this price people will be happy with the quality. Very happy. Very good. Long battery. Long battery. It can support up to 6 hours music time. One charge. 6 hours music time. This charging case can support another 18 hours. So, with the charging case the ear bus when you have full charge it can support up to 24 hours battery life. Nice. That's cool. What do we see here? Oh, this is a new. Oh, this one. This is new generation of air conduction ear bus. Okay. So, this ear bus can. So, you have a surrounding sound. And here ambient sound doesn't interrupt it. Not this one. Not this one. This one is for sport use. When you are running, lighting and then you can. You want to hear the traffic? Yes. You can have a safe. It's more safe and more comfortable to wear and also more base. Can you use it on the bicycle and scooter? It's perfect for bicycle. It's perfect for bicycle. Nice. Because you want to stay safe. You want to listen to music and you cannot hear the cars coming. Yes. It's important. Yes, it's for safe. Yes, more safety than other ear bus. It's still very high quality. You can extend the long distance songs. Nice. Then the outside noise. So, it's safe. Before you were talking about this. Is this similar? Yes, similar. It's also air conduction headphone. Air conduction headphone. So, when you wear it, you can feel it. It's safe. And it's comfortable. It's lightweight. And it can support up to 8 hours battery life. Nice. Yes. That's awesome. What is this? It's ANC headphone. How is compared with the Sony? I'm joking. Let's talk about Sony. I would like to say the performance is almost done. We can talk in two ways. The first is the song quality is almost the same as Sony. And second is about active noise cancelling. The deep of the noise cancelling. And the finishing quality. And the comfortable feel. And the design. You can see it. So, it's amazing. What is that? ANC. Really? That's good. Yes, very good. This is hybrid ANC. Hybrid ANC. We have two microphones. Each ear bus. One here and one here. So, it can detect your inside noise and your outside noise. This we call hybrid noise cancelling. Wow. What's the price on that? This one we are selling around 99 EUR store. 99 EUR store. Cool. And over here, I also see you have Bluetooth speakers. Yeah, we have. Like for example, this one is a big one. Yeah, this one is amazing. I can play for you. This Bluetooth speaker which our own. Inbuilt two-way speaker system. The device is connected. Two-way speaker system. So, it can support play music up to six hours. And it's IPX7 waterproof. IPX7 waterproof. So, it also has big watts. Yeah. It's 45 volts. 45 volts. So, if you do maximum volume, they will hear you in hole eight. Yes. All the way to the next hole. So, it's better not to do it. Because also, I'm afraid of music on my YouTube channel. They don't like copyright. If I don't put music, then I cannot publish this video. Okay. So, I'm afraid if you don't play music. You want to feel it? The music? I'm afraid. Maybe some Chinese music. Something nobody... No, something not famous. Maybe it will work. Oh, that's great. Great sound. Okay. I think I will pass the copyright test. Okay. All right. That's awesome. So, hi, future. Say hi to the future. Hi, future. That's what it means, right? Yes. Hi, future. And distributor contact you. Who is your target? All over the world? Yeah, we are targeting. Hi, future is selling to more than 50 countries. In Europe, we are selling to more than 15 countries already. And also, we are selling to Latin America. We are selling to love America and each Asian market. And Middle East as well. So, hi, future. It's a global plan. And in last seven years, development, we have been... We have been convinced more than four million users. Using our audio products, our smart variable products. Nice. But the market is 8 billion people. So, you have big potential. Yes, of course. We are working hard every day. We are playing hard every day. And we are here to try to push hi, future to more countries, to more customers, to more people. Yes. And all these products, you can provide long warranty? Reliability. Basically, we provide one year warranty. And in some regions, people of the world, we can provide two year warranty. That really depends on local policy. People can find your brand or other brand. It's always hi, future brand? Yeah, it's always hi, future. Can you find an Amazon? Yeah, we don't sell it on Amazon, but we sell it mostly on offline market. Offline market, yes. Cool. All right. It's not. Okay. Thank you. Cool. All right. It's okay. Let me start. It's great. Let me give you my card. Where are you from? I'm from Switzerland. Switzerland? Yeah. Is that the name? How do you say Switzerland? Sorry, I will just put it here. I will give you my card. This is the name of my card. Thank you. This is where the video goes. Okay. This is the one for you. Okay. And do you have a card? I can have? Yes. And after Hong Kong fare, are you going to Hong Kong fare? Yes, of course. So maybe I can do video with you in Hong Kong fare or in Shenzhen. I hope I will go to Shenzhen. Okay. Also, we're checking. We need to get a visa for China. Because usually I can go five days, no problem. But I need to check one month. They change for one month, no? You know, before I go to Hong Kong to the border, they say five days in Shenzhen. Five days. But I need to check. So maybe after Hong Kong fare, if you want, we can film in your office or your factory if you want. Yeah. So just contact me. Yeah. If the factory, maybe it's not free, right? But at the Hong Kong fare? Yeah. Yeah, that's my mobile. Yeah, that's my mobile. Or my WeChat Starbucks. That's my WeChat Starbucks. You can type technically or... Friday or Saturday or something. And tonight I will publish your video in 4K. And then if you want, you can send me... Yeah, you can send me... You can send me a description. And I'll put it on your video. If you send me some text that you think is good. Like about the company. I'll find a new website, you know? And publish. Okay. But it was live. It was already on the internet. It's live. Really? Yeah, you can already watch it. Okay. Thank you. It's three hours in the video. Thank you. Okay, bye-bye. Thank you people that it's finished. Still live? Three hours of live stream today. We're back to the inter-digital. I was looking for real me. Your video is online. Is it? You can help me to spread it around. Yeah. You can share it on social media and everywhere. Okay, we'll do that. What's the name? On my YouTube. Okay. Good. How did it look? How did it come back? It's perfect. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. We just need a shared, like for example, you can share it to some potential customer or something and say, ah, look at our booth at the Mobile World Congress. No. And they'll love to watch it. And then they will like it. They'll watch it and it will help to get more, like, thousand more views, you know? Because the algorithm needs some appreciation, you know? They need somebody to like the video. So we know how to do that. I just want to make sure this, I mean, we'll listen to it. Yeah, you can share it to anyone. We can go find it on there. Find the link. We'll share it on your LinkedIn and everything. Okay, good. Very good. I'm going to tell them myself, right? I think it's true. Yeah. Good. Cool. Okay. See you. Oh, I love it. Thank you. Bye. It's late. There's an MPNO party. The party is walking here. And they're going to get SIM cards and stuff. MPNO SIM cards. All the headsets are being washed. Okay. So this is it. Day three. Thank you. Thanks for watching. And tomorrow, more video, the last day of Mobile Look Congress tomorrow. All right.