 Then our friend Alexander Dugin, people claim that Alexander is now quote-unquote the most dangerous philosopher of our time, and we'll discover if that's true, yes or no. The concept of liberty, we are discussing, was from the beginning negative concept. So that liberty, that was liberty from, that was defined by Mills. And idea, because if you suggest that you are free for something, you limit by that the freedom itself. So it is contradictory. This is one side of the point, freedom from. But there's also freedom to, that is at the heart of the definition. Freedom to speak, freedom to think, freedom to assemble, freedom to worship, or not worship. Freedom to do as you like, until your own choice conflicts with someone else's freedom. And then the government is there, structures are there, a process is there, to try to help regulate.