 All right, look we appreciate everybody being here today. Hope you guys are doing well. You know really over the last few weeks in terms of the process it's been really good getting to know everyone, getting to meet all the new coaches, getting to really the different scouts and everybody on the staff getting to know everybody and it's really been about dropping all of our egos and really blending philosophy. So we have people from a lot of different places and we're working hard to adapt and adjust in some different areas and regardless of how we've been doing things or it's about doing it the right way moving forward. So that's really been the process up to this point. We've had the pro guys are working really hard, getting ready for the free agency process and working with the coaches to get their clear vision. We just wrapped up the February college meetings, the entire staff works in town and that went really well. The coaches, the scouts are again working really hard. Kyle Smith ran those meetings and and they were really productive, a really productive two weeks. So as we continue to go through the process we're excited about getting into the Zoom meetings with the players and the pro days and that whole process but again excited for you guys to be here and excited to answer some questions. All right we'll go ahead and open up questions in order of submission. Jason Butt and if you can address who the question is to, Arthur or Terry? Hey guys, I wanted to ask this to Terry. When you have a high draft slot like fourth overall, what are the determining factors when you guys are deliberating whether to take the best player available or to possibly trade back accrued picks given the salary cap issues at hand? Yeah it's a prime spot to be in being at that number four spot and there's so many different scenarios. There are going to be some really good players there for we can move up and we can move down and acquire more picks. There's just a lot of different scenarios to really go through so it's a prime spot to be in. It's not somewhere we want to be in very often with this team so we're going to take advantage of that and we're going to be open to all possibilities. And then this one for Arthur, you guys released Ricardo Allen the other day so just where do you guys stand at safety and by any chance you know Isaiah Oliver has been a guy who's kind of moved around a little bit last year. Is he somebody who might get a look there? Yeah well we're just we're in the beginning stages as Terry and I are going through the roster. I mean we're looking to add at any position you know Ricardo Allen he was a heck of a player here and you know it's the circumstances of you know having to release him but we have all the respect in the world for Rico and we're going to have to adapt. Isaiah is a guy that's played inside. We feel good about it but a lot of our guys we're going to value versatility but we're still really in the early stages of how we're going to build this roster towards 2021. Thanks. Dylan For Terry where are you all at with you know people that may be free agency free agents in Mack, Casey and Keanu Neal and with a fifth year options with regards to Calvin Ridley and Hayden Hurst. That's that's like 10 questions. Yeah I know. So and we're not gonna we're not going to discuss any of the individuals in terms of contracts you know whether it's a UFA or a player under contract that whether we're talking about renegotiating contracts or extending contracts or fifth year options those are going to be internal discussions and then the first we're going to communicate directly with the players directly with the agents. We want that to come from them first so we're having all those discussions about all those players but that's not something we want to discuss in this forum. Okay second question for for coach Smith. With the roster evaluations can you go through the offensive side of the ball for us at quarterback running back while I receive retired in an O-line and I'll follow up with the defense later on. I love it. I love the rapid fire questions. You know we're again we're still in the early stages and we feel good about some of the guys that have been here that we have you know there's some good young linemen up front that we're excited to work with and we're excited to work with some of the receivers on the outside as well but again we're going to look to add at all times during the season. I mean you never know when you could pick up players I mean last year in Tennessee we we picked up Jeff Swain a tight end in the middle of August and he ended up being a big contributor down the stretch for us as we made that playoff run so we're going to always it's a constant evolution there. We feel good about some of the pieces we have coming back but we'll always continue to add and look to have value in depth. Thank you. Sorry about Blaney. Hello hello um so this question is kind of for both of y'all because I think that you both can add different perspectives to this but you know we're still in very uncharted territory in regards to how to scout virtually and I'm sure there are some pro-days that y'all be able to go to in person but I was just wondering if y'all could expound upon essentially how you're going to attack this offseason in kind of preparation for the draft in preparation for free agency moves and just kind of give me an overview of what that looks like. Yeah we um I'll start out we really value pro-days we always have and you know the access obviously is going to be different when you factor in COVID and what we're dealing with there but that in person getting to see those players in person is critical especially this year when you think about some of these players we haven't seen on the grass this entire season when we were talking about the players that opted out so it's important to get in there even though we you won't be able to put your hands on them like you used to do or you're not going to have the full access it's going to be limited but still it's important to get in those buildings and um and see those players important in person and uh in the zoom meetings and and we're going through that process and um hey what's the right way to do it because we like to the coaches like to watch film with the player so we just need to find the most efficient way to do it but um but that's going to be really important um in this evaluation process. Yeah and just to piggyback off that we you know the one thing that helps is we've been through almost a calendar year now of the zoom world and so there was a lot of lessons learned through our draft process last year and even in our our spring installations and the stuff we had to deal with in Tennessee early in the season so we found different ways I mean it you know it's it was really it was really cool during the the hiring process with the staff I mean years past you made a fool and somebody in I may have gone and seen somebody somewhere but it allowed us to talk to a lot a lot of different candidates and you just had to find lessons learned from mistakes you made a myth we may have made last year I know for me coaching things that learned what translated with zoom uh feel really good I mean we made some hires and we never I never met in person until they showed up here but felt good about it and the way we went about it and embedded them and so it's like everybody you have to adapt to the current times. Yeah definitely and uh Terry I think this is just a kind of a follow-up for you how many pro-days are you all kind of hoping to get to in person? We're going to try to cover everything we look at it like we're turning over every stone and um we sat out and kind of met with uh with Kyle Smith and and A. Robin DeWine just yesterday going through um the pro-days and making sure we're covered making sure um obviously me and Arthur will be at certain ones and um and some of them will make sure the coach is in the scouts but uh we want to cover everything and um we want to make sure we can get to out to as many as possible. Thank you. Is that fine? Hey coach when I asked you about the evaluation of the roster when you had your introductory press conference you said I'd love to tell you about my focus this past year was on Tennessee so I was wondering over the past month uh has there been a pleasant surprise uh an individual you knew of but didn't really know how you know well they played that's kind of stood out in the evaluation process even though you said it's early? Sure I mean let's go with the young way cool I just hope he doesn't kick as many field goals next year but uh you know he had a very productive season there's a lot of guys I mean systematically a little change and so some of it you're seeing what's going to fit for us going forward especially on the defensive side of the ball and then offensively like I said there's there's some good pieces here I mean Cal and Ridley had a heck of a year uh Matt still you know he threw it at a high level uh you know you're excited about Chris Lindstrom I mean I can go on and on and on and so there's some good pieces and again we're going to ask those guys every day whoever we bring in here you got to earn your job every I got to earn my job every day that's going to be the same thing we'll ask those guys whether you're going into year 14 or going into year two uh we feel good there's some pieces and we'll continue to have and for Terry is there a position that is exceedingly deep in this year's draft and on the flip side is there a certain position that's pretty scarce when it comes to you know elite talent um I don't know if I'd say that I could classify anything right now um we're again we're still going through that process and there's a lot of good players on both sides of the ball though like you're going to be able to um you can really do some good things in this year's draft again at the top of the draft and I think it's strong right at the core too so um without being specific I think it's a it's a good draft there's a lot of talent. Kelsey Conway. My first question is from Coach Smith uh we haven't gotten to talk to you since you made the announcement that Dean Keith was going to be your defensive coordinator why were some of the reasons that you wanted to make sure that you brought him to Atlanta? Yeah well I think Dean's body of work kind of speaks for itself but Dean's also somebody he's not set as ways I mean Dean's very flexible he's adaptable uh feel really good about the about the entire staff but the defensive side we've got some really really good experience over there and combine it with some young guys to go as a good mix uh but Dean and I have a shared vision you know we'll play to the strengths of our team we'll be multiple um and it was really beneficial for me being a first time head coach and I'm gonna still call the plays is you have somebody that kind of experience that you can lean on especially on that side of the ball. And my second question is for Terry what are some of the traits that you value most when you're evaluating the quarterback position? Well I think it starts off at every position the same way I would say it always starts off with with the makeup of individuals we're going to assess the personal character the football character I mean authors said it a number of times that you want a smart tough competitive football team so when we're talking about situational awareness you're talking about critical times at the end of the games at the end of half so you want smart tough competitive football players and I think that goes um that's at every position um now obviously the quarterback position is different than some of them so you really got to spend a lot of time with the quarterbacks and and make sure you really assess the mental um and that part of it so you can assess them as processors so um but I'll say at every position we're looking for that same makeup. Jeff Schultz? Yeah Terry I know the majority of your background was on the uh was on the pro personnel side so I'm just curious when you were in New Orleans how involved were you in the draft process at all and and how much were you you know sort of depending on the um the college personnel people who are who are here with the organization now? Yeah yeah that's a like I said before like you can look at GM's from from a lot of different backgrounds my background I did grow up more in the pro department but um in New Orleans it was an inclusive process so I was heavily involved in all aspects the salary cap and the college draft as the college guys were involved in the pro process so I was heavily involved in all those areas um but I think the most important thing is it is when you're in the GMC is hiring and empowering the right people because for example we were in two weeks to college meetings and I got pulled out of those meetings a lot I wasn't in those meetings um as often as I'd like to be in those meetings so you have to make sure you have people in place that you really trust and and I'm excited about having again I told you Kyle Smith was running those meetings and all he's done since he's been here he hadn't done anything else but but run the meetings and evaluate players that's all he does he's obsessed with the process um he's obsessed with ball and and I'm excited about having him again uh Anthony Robinson who actually interviewed for this general manager position and um and he was very deserving of getting an interview because he's special he's a star in this building um and again Duane Jones is somebody and I'm not talking about everybody in the in the room because there's some really good people there but Duane Jones is another guy that I actually had a history with and so they were in those meetings the entire time where I couldn't always be in there so um so yes I'm I'm comfortable with my experience in that regard but I'm very comfortable with the people um that are going to be empowered in the college process and then uh one question for Arthur do you have a general philosophy about how a team should be built beyond you want to be physical and smart and all that stuff do you do you think it needs to start in certain areas of the team well I mean obviously you'd love to be you have depth on both sides of honest scrimmage I think that helps uh you know there's one thing that's 100% NFL you're going to have injuries and it's hard it's hard when you when you lose up front you lose guys if you don't have enough guys that can that can affect the quarterback obviously we all saw the Super Bowl and you saw Tampa was able to get after my homes I think that helps uh but again year to year it changes you know your strength may be on the skill positions you got and that's what I mean by playing at strength is yeah certain years we may have a lot of depth of tight end and so you've got to find ways and there may be certain games in the in the season uh you know you go back to that COVID game we had against Buffalo on Tuesday night and we only had four wide receivers up and so you know you're going to lean heavier on the tight ends or maybe you have multiple running back spots but you always love to have depth on both sides of a lot of scrimmage in a perfect role it doesn't always happen that way but it definitely helps a quick follow-up have you found that you you're in Terry's philosophy I'm sure you talk obviously during the interview process too you're pretty much on the same page in terms of how to go about this rebuild or build or whatever you want to call it yeah I mean it's it's year to year you build I know those narratives want to get out there and people want to you know frame frame something hey this is this or whatever I think the challenge and that's what I love it is every year I mean things change you never just run it back uh so it's it's a constant team building and and I really enjoyed working with Terry I mean we we have our beliefs but both of those also we're also I would like to thank really good listeners and we've hired really good staff and you know you hire really good people and you let them do their jobs and we listen we facilitate and to piggyback on Terry said I mean there's things that you're doing year one that you have to have a strong staff because we get pulled out of things um so very excited it's been it's been fun so far and and you know again to piggyback on that when that's one thing we have done is is like there are people that we've brought here that we had previous relationships with but but we didn't just focus on that we want to make sure just like when you're bringing in players you're going out and finding the very best and that's what we did like um there's people that are here now that um we didn't have previous relationships with like uh Chris Olson is an example of somebody that um I didn't have a previous relationship with but I did a lot of research on him a lot of work on him and and as a person and and as a professional um he's he's off the charts and um and so bringing him in and since he's been here Kirsten Broze was already here but the work that they've done um just uh they literally never leave their office every time I go by their lights still on and they're working on the cap and they're coming up with a lot of different scenarios and a lot of different plans but um but that's just an example of somebody that um Chris is that I didn't know but we just wanted to make sure we brought in the best people. Michael Cunningham. Hi Terry it's a question for you um I saw a revenue review where you were talking about the salary cap and you explained that you know you can't just keep kicking it down the road eventually you have to pay but obviously NFL teams to a certain extent or another that's how they operate uh what factors do you consider when you're thinking about you know whether we're going to restructure and push things ahead like you said. Yeah you know that that is a challenge and um we obviously still don't have all the information we know where the floor is um but we're hoping for the best in terms of what that number is going to end up being um but that's the process we're going through like I said I know Chris and Kirsten are um I think the only time Chris leaves the office is to get coffee but they're working hard on going through that process and just determining um all the different options and we're going to have to really look at that and determine because you have to have a balance um you know you want to make decisions that are going to help you as much as possible this year but you also have to think about future years and think about 2022 and 2023 and and think big picture but there's a balance to it because we want to be as competitive as possible now but we also want to um keep the future in mind and make sure we're doing things that we want to have sustained success that's the goal here so we have to have all those things in mind. The follow-up on that I mean this was a team that went four and twelve last year with not very bad injury luck pretty good injury luck um you don't have many guys under contract though the salary cap's pretty tight I mean what are the avenues available to you to to improve this roster? I think everything's in consideration um and and look there's we're going to have to make some hard decisions on some players on this roster and and we're going to have to earn our job the scouts right we're scouts so we're going to have to go find players because you can't just build your roster with overpaid players in free agency or top draft hits um we got to really dig we have to dig and and find value in free agency and and that's working with the coaches and that's finding out exactly what they need and and going and finding the players that they need that's in that's throughout the entire draft and that's an undrafted free agency um so we have to be scouts and we have to go find good players that um that that really fit the makeup and the profile that we're looking for. Justin Felder. This question is for Terry uh in a normal NFL offseason this would be a NFL combine opportunity to get to meet face-to-face with a lot of players you also are not going to have those individual visits you said in response to Kelsey's question a few minutes ago makeup is the number one thing you're looking for are you concerned that you won't be able to get as good a sense of the makeup of these guys when the interaction is so limited because of all the restrictions? I'm really not um number one being able to sit in the meetings with the college scouts they've done a really good job still getting the information they need to get um still they still have the same sources and and again when you're not in the schools or at the you're not there as often but they're still working their sources they're still getting the information and um and we're going to continue to work hard through that process we're going to take advantage of the zoom meetings look there's some things that that we've learned from last year's process that are going to help us moving forward and and and we'll continue to adopt um even um as we get out of the the current circumstance that we're in in the world but um so no I don't think that's going to limit us that's our job and and everybody's playing with the same rules across the board the other 31 teams have the same rules so we have to um find a way to have an edge and and find the best processes and make sure um we're working the sources and getting the information we need to make um well-informed decisions we're going to mic gearding but Terry this is for you have teams already started to inquire about the first round pick or is it a little too soon for that we're talking to team we talk to teams regularly around this time because we're talking about everything right so um so we start discussions uh just general discussions with teams kind of right you really never stop talking to teams um so I wouldn't be specific on any conversations um that I've had with teams but like I said that is a prime spot to be in and whether you're moving up or moving down or staying right there um I know we're going to have some good value is it even more prime if you will because of the buzz about the quarterbacks at the top of the draft and four potentially five guys that at least the mock draft people's there going to the first round man that's that's that's really uh it's really interesting it's kind of unique and uncommon this year with with all the discussion about the possible trades at the quarterback position and um it's one of those things that unless you're in a specific building um you don't really know that specific situation and and it's tough to uh to really comment on what's going on in those areas but all we can do is um is really assess it and assess the market and um it's it's unique with what's going on with that position but yes I think that makes it even more prime hit follow-ups uh dealer do you have a follow-up uh yes yes I do um for Arthur what was uh you know rookies Davidson in Hennessy what was their evaluation um for them and your projection on what they can do to help you out in the future yeah well both of those guys will be given you know a clean slate I mean they were they were rookies uh I think it was a really challenging years for for a lot of rookies you know that they probably that class uh it was probably hardest for them or you look around the league you know obviously some teams had more success with others but it's so early I mean that to to give you a stamp on what this guy's going to be in year one as a rookie I mean somebody's guys improve we're certainly excited about working with them I think they both you know they'll have the opportunity as everybody else to have a clean slate and to come earn a job but certainly you know rookie year doesn't make or break a career and for Terry I heard you talk about this and I was in Green Bay when Kurt Warner was the fifth quarterback you know about how Ryan was able to amass the quarterbacks you all you got blank slate pretty much behind Matt what what uh you know what avenues can you all take or look at to you know put people with him and you know put people in there for the future yeah that that's an exciting part of because we're going to utilize all the avenues whether it's in free agency whether it's um at any point in the draft and even after the draft um you know I've been in places where we've traded for quarterbacks and um we're always looking to bring in um bring in quarterbacks and we have a real good from from author Smith and uh and to Dave we're going into but like we have we have a really good um offensive staff and I think it's going to be attractive for it I think quarterbacks are going to want to be here who to follow up for Jason bud yes this is for uh Arthur um you know with Charles London what traits do you think made from a good quarterback coach and also how important is it to ensure more minority coaches are in a pipeline become coordinators and head coaches well sure um Charles is a guy Charles and I shared an office in 2011 in Tennessee so you know it's kind of like living in a dorm with somebody you really get to know somebody uh you know in coaching you don't really know somebody do you work with them and then if you share it off with them you feel like you really get to know Charles is a phenomenal coach I think you know the biggest requirement for being a good coach is being a teacher and Charles is a heck of a teacher and I think you know looking at Charles and then that role it's a role he wanted to expand and grow and that's probably you know that's stifled a lot of growth around and I and I'm sensitive to it you know Mike Vrabel gave me a shot coming from the tight end room now there had been precedent there and guys have become coordinators but then there's a lot of people that say you only have to come to the quarterback room and so I had never coached quarterbacks and then I was in the quarterback room as the coordinator and same thing with Charles and Charles wants to grow and he's a great teacher and he will and he'll do a great job and there's a lot of experience with the staff um and certainly the same thing working with Ryan Tannehill you know you work with a veteran quarterback and you get Matt Ryan you're working with a veteran quarterback I mean you kind of feed off each other and when you're coming from the running back room I think there's a lot of misconceptions too you're heavily involved in protection so that's very you know carries over right to the quarterback room that's critical on our third down and our blitz pick up that you're involved in the run scheme obviously you know with the with the tracks in the in the ball handling and uh and I'm really excited that Charles is part of our staff but it's a it's a huge help you want to expand people you never want to stifle people growth and I think the more you gotta give somebody a shot and and it's it's a perfect situation for Charles and I couldn't be more excited that he's here with us awesome thanks Hitch Maria Martin hey this is a question for Arthur um I'll try to make sure that my dog doesn't run in the shot yeah I keep seeing him coming in the frame I know I'm sorry but I know it's also sorry okay so uh you know we were talking about the quarterbacks a little bit and you talked about how Matt Ryan is a veteran how much um do you place in the value of bringing in maybe a veteran backup to boost that room oh I think it goes back to Terry and we're not trying to be invasive it's just there's so many things that play I mean if you know this happens or we can add this guy here and as you go into the draft I mean you're looking to add everywhere obviously we won't go in with just one quarterback in a training camp we'll have multiple spots there and I like to follow up but who else in that Green Bay Quarterback room do you like was it was it uh Farve and Hassleback and Brunel was that Brunel uh Aaron Aaron Brooks left Ty Demer and uh Kurt was like this so it was passed out after Mark and Hassleback had been there so either way no pressure to add that kind of depth to the quarterback room but you know it we're just again it we'll look for help anywhere and we'll look to add um so again a lot of that plays into the salary cap who's available who you can sign who you can draft and it's all it's all in play yeah Terry often um general managers in any sport in your position are going to say we're traveling down parallel roads we're trying to win now and build for the future um but the reality is you're you generally have to choose one or the other in terms of your transactions like the soft season so is it fair to say that as you and you and your coach or you and Arthur you know we're building this team now in the soft season um or you're adjusting the roster that the eye is more on 2022 and beyond than it is necessarily trying to win in 2021 yeah Jeff you know we have we have over 50 of the roster to fill for from where we are now so we have such a long way to go and and we're going to work hard to bring in the right players um the right make up regardless of where we're talking about undrafted for agents or our guys that aren't making a lot of money we're going to bring in the right players and I don't think any of those players are going to say they're not coming here to compete to win every game that they can um so we're going to try to build it the right way and and we're always whether you're talking about this year or three years from now we're going to always have the future in mind and make make calculated decisions so um so and I understand your question I understand the question you're asking but um but right now we're just going to work hard to get where we need to get and get some good players in and um and get ready to compete. Thanks. Mike Gearty. This is our Arthur. Arthur how much did you um how much do you want for different voices and different eyes in some of these zoom meetings with the college kids and of course I kind of ask is your your old team Tennessee had the situation with Isaiah Wilson this last year and John Robinson was just on record saying like the guy that showed up in the fall wasn't the guy we talked to did you learn something from that experience and do you want to translate to what you're doing now? I think you learn from every experience you know just because that happened you know those are there's so many factors and variables that can happen whether we were you know in a zoom era or you know normal I mean there's things that you can't control um we're never going to be perfect and I don't think anybody is I mean whether you know I'm not going to have the perfect play call every time Terry's not going to have the perfect traffic you know you sure certainly you try to minimize risk in certain areas but there's lessons learned uh I think in everything we do and like like I was talking about earlier just in terms of how we adapted there are teaching methods uh you know you adapted to how you interview and that certainly helped me when we were interviewing coaches uh so you learn from everything but that's you know there's always exceptions I you know that's I don't really want to comment on you know something going on Tennessee. Sure understood and just quickly while you mentioned that how do you approach getting ready for off-season training activities again not really knowing whether it can be done virtually or in person or how that's all gonna fly? Yeah you just have to have contingency plans so here's the calendar if you know perfect situation if we have the the normal off season if we don't here's you know here's plan B here's plan C and that was the the best lesson because you know everybody says that then you actually had to apply that to last year and we felt we felt we did for the most part and in Nashville so we did do the same thing here it's the only way I know how to do it. Gonna follow up from Zach Klein. Terry shoot me straight when you're in a quiet moment at the office or the house do you ever look up mock drafts and say oh no the dolphins are picking him we need to move up or do something like that. You know what we do what we do do is um we always have mock drafts the right before the draft a few days before and so basically you'll take like picture this all the scouts in a room and they'll each have teams so you'll have a scout with each scout will have like four teams and you'll literally go through a mock draft and and you'll give them you'll print out these mock drafts and certain scouts will be taking based off need and certain scouts will be taking based off best player available and you'll throw a wild card in there and they can just take anybody it's always interesting to go through the mock draft and then see who's there and then you go in and you make a decision on on who you're going to take now the the first round mock draft will be a lot quicker being at four but it's um but but it's kind of cool going through those mock drafts and just seeing and sometimes when you actually get to the actual draft some of the scenarios get close to playing out so so yeah we definitely do the mock draft then you hook somebody up who had a good draft and make the guys who were just brutal run laps or something it it's actually a pretty fun process and there's always somebody that just doesn't that struggles with it and they pick guys in the first round that should go in the third it's always there's always somebody that that messes it up but it's it's a fun process not Kelsey Connelly hey this is a question for Terry you mentioned your strategy during the draft about how when you start reaching that's when you can get in trouble so often it's better to take the best player available when you're taking over a roster in the first season how do you weigh wanting to take the best player available but knowing that there are some glaring roster needs at specific positions yeah good question and we this is another discussion we had a couple days ago and you always work really hard to in free agency to bring in players and to to kind of feel some needs as much as you can in free agency and bring in players that feel those needs because that gives you more confidence to move forward with the right approach in the draft and so you're always going to have that philosophy and you you you never want to reach for needs in the draft but when you address some of those needs prior to the draft that just gives you um uh you feel better about going about the right approach in the draft. Tori McElhaney with the follow-up. Yes I have one for one for Terry so I'll go with Arthur first um I wanted to go to what you're saying about that 2011 staff and I know Dave was talking about that when we talked him like last month about how that stuff was exceptionally close because it was a time in which we didn't didn't have a lot of knowns about what was going to happen in regards to the lockout. I was just curious how did you kind of relate that to what's going on now and the unknowns of the scouting situation the unknown of what type of code and I'm just looking at the parallels yeah there's a lot of things we learned from that year um the lockout year was very interesting we were new staff that year as Dave referenced um you know it was a top heavy quarterback draft at the time right you had Cam Newton and then uh Blaine Gabbard, Jay Klokker, Christian Ponder I think all went in the top 15 give or take if I remember correctly maybe I'm missing somebody um so there's you know there is a lot of parallels I mean you got to do your due diligence I mean that's the thing you look back in year to year I mean it's the hardest position I think in professional sports to play and play at a high level for a long time and that's why you're seeing right now I mean I think let's look at the last 10 years the first round quarterbacks it's not easy and there's a there's a lot of things that factor into it but yeah that was a unique year lessons learned there I mean we I think we ended up going nine and seven we actually came up here to Atlanta and lost in a pretty relatively close game I believe at the end that we came back but yeah there's a lot of lessons applied about when you have to install things and and evaluations and Terry I wanted to go back to what you're talking about with Chris and kind of that he doesn't the only time he leaves is to get a cup of coffee and I was just wondering kind of what does his day look like from your point of view and does he have any quirks that you find super interesting to kind of take a whole challenge for the salary gap well the funny thing is the first day he got here he was all like cleanly shaved in and just like you know all put together and every day I see him his beard gets a little longer and he doesn't he really is look and again it's him in person and they've been in there on their offices are right next to each other and and every time whether I'm getting in the office or leaving the office that lights always on and and they're working hard because there are there are so many variables with with everything and there's a lot of decisions that we have to make and everything you do affects everything and and we challenged them to hey we have to look at we have to think big picture it's not just about getting underneath the cap we have to make sure we're making big picture decisions and and that's going to it's going to be a challenge because it's going to be on us like I said we have to find value it's a challenge for for us and the scouts that we have to make sure we find value in all areas of player procurement and if they're not all going to be hydratics and not all going to be ipay free agents we have to find value in all areas but but it's been again I just met Chris and but he's been awesome he's really smart and he's working real hard right now