 Who are you eating at Christmas? Who are you eating at Christmas time? Do you think that would offend people? I think it would. Excuse me mate, do you know where there's the koala? We put koalas, a bunch of koalas in the same position as the chickens right now. They're just strung up by their feet, electric bath, decapitated. What are you doing? Koalas put animals on this earth for us to eat. Except koalas. Alright, we're in Kit Street Mall here in Sydney. We've got animal rights legend Andy Faulkner here from savepoppy.com. We are about to ask people, would you eat a koala? Because everyone eats these animals here. We want to see if they would warm to the idea of eating a little fuzzy koala and ask them why not to open up the animal rights discussion. Let's go. Excuse me, would you eat a koala? Christmas koala roast, if I made it for you. Fresh out the tree. Would you eat a koala mate? I'm toasted. So the taste is good? Yeah, toasted, munchies, something like that. No, not bad. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's not bad. Definitely not. Why not? Why not? Why not? You eat other? It's still treasure. What about kangaroos? You'd eat a kangaroo, but they're a national treasure. Australian icon animal. They eat kangaroos here? I don't. You don't? What about lamb? Do you eat a lamb? That's a Welsh icon. What are you doing? We're in Australia. You're in Australia? It depends. Is it alive? No, it has to be killed in order to be eaten. Like how you would have a steak like lamb or like a lamb. Oh yeah, probably. So you would eat a koala? Yeah, probably. No moral issue with killing koalas? What about lambs? I feel like this is a truck. This is a lambs. Who do you eat at Christmas? Who do you eat at Christmas time? Who do you eat at Christmas with your family? What do you eat? Like a pig? Turkey and pig. Don't forget seafood. What's the moral difference? What's the moral difference? Koala and a turkey. Koalas were here first. That's not a good argument. I wouldn't do it for the morocato. What about the other animals like chickens? Yeah, I guess it's not. They're responsibly farmed. Responsibly? Okay, let me ask you this. If we responsibly farm koalas, that'd be alright then? Yeah, I guess so. Well, no. It's the same with chickens. It's not okay to eat chickens either then. I don't know. Or other animals. This is a pig. Killed in gas chambers. You know that, right? Let's see. Yeah. CO2 gas chambers where they struggle in the gas chamber. And cows are killed in a knockbox. Their bolt gun in the head cut off. I did not know that. You didn't know that? I didn't know that. Well, you can watch a movie called Dominion and find out how the animals in the supermarket or in the butchers are, you know, exploited and killed. Yeah. But when you think of like a koala, or say like a dog or... Yeah. People eat kangaroos here. Yeah. But when you think of those animals, it kind of puts it in perspective. Yeah. I see you have a kangaroo here, but do you have any koalas? Meat? Can you order this or no? I don't think so. This is on your side. Okay. Okay, thank you. Do they have a kangaroo or koalas for meat? Maybe kangaroo. No, koalas meat. Do they got... You got to sell kangaroos or koala meats here in the torture section. We'll be on the other side next to the meat. Oh, thank you. Hey, brother. Do you know where there's kangaroo koalas meat in there? Never, never either. Is there any kangaroo koalas meat? Kangaroos. Kangaroo meat is over there. Kangaroo koalas. Hello. Okay, I'm just looking for... Can you get any koala meat? I looked in the butcher section. They can't order in. I looked. It's not there. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. It depends on the situation. All right, tell me. Survive the situation or eat one at any time of the day. Okay. But just to go and eat one, I wouldn't. Okay, why? Just... I don't look at koalas that way. I've grown up eating other animals. Like who? Like chickens, pigs, all that other stuff. Like cows. Yeah, yeah. If we see that as food, people have grown up generations killing those animals and eating them. Would you eat a koala? I would say no. Why? Why is that? What would be wrong with eating a koala? See, I get what you're saying because it's like the vegetarian argument. Wow, I didn't even have to do anything. Yeah, I don't know. I... Because you see them as, you know, very cuddly animals and, you know, we don't see that like pigs and cows the same way. Okay. So it's about how we view them. Yeah. You know, it gives them moral value. Yeah. I don't think it's right, but I think that's what happens. That's what happens. Yeah. But it's not a... Would you say, like, I might think he's cute and cuddly. I might think you're not so much. Or the other way around maybe. That's not a moral justify to like treat you unequally to... No, no, no, no. Look, I'd probably try it. What about a dog? Would you eat a dog? No, I would need a dog because I think I'm like, like we've like made them like pets, you know, we've gone to the point where like we have a connection with them for like a koala brah. Why would you have a connection with a dog? Because I don't know, that's just humanity. Is there something about the dog that we should care about? Right. So if I booted a dog, who cares? Yeah, well, like, I think if you booted a koala, it'd be like, ah, if you booted a koala right now, full blast. Like everyone would be like, oh, f**k, you know? If you asked a koala and to ask a chicken, if you could ask them, do either of you want to be killed and eaten? Yeah. What do you think the answer would be? I'd say no. Both of them? Yeah. Okay. Because like let's just say, like just finally, because I don't know what you're doing at Christmas time, but it's Christmas like happening right now. Yeah. And a lot of people sit down towards centerpiece, like a turkey. Yeah. Like I used to eat all types of animals. Yeah. If it was a koala in the center, do you think that would offend people? I think it would. So it's nothing about that animal that deserves moral consideration. It's just that, you know, it's okay to kick some. Who cares? Cut koala's heads off. Don't worry about it. Yeah. I'd be pretty hypocritical if I ate other animals and was asking people not to eat koalas. Oh, right. Look, I just, I'm open to trying it. I'm not a vegan. I was vegan. Too late, mate. Too late. Excuse me. Do you have a kangaroo or koalas here? What's a koala? Roast. Excuse me. Do you know where is koala? Koala meat? Koala meat. Excuse me, mate. Do you know where there's the koala or koala or kangaroo? Is kangaroo but knows no koalas? No? Why not? We've got crocodile, we've got kangaroo. We're looking for koala, but you won't sell it in Australia at all. No, all right. They're written. All right. Thank you. What do you think most people would think? What do you think I'm going to have? I think you're going to get the same answers of people being like, no, but then they're not going to be able to really justify why. There's a lot of houses with the pigs, maybe they don't think it's OK. We put koalas, a bunch of koalas in the same position as the chickens right now. You would have a, they get strung up by their feet, electric bath, decapitated. What can you do? Yeah, but if we put koalas in that position, would you have a moral issue with it? Yeah, I wouldn't care. You wouldn't care? But if we put people in that position, you would care. It was a different story. Why? Tell me. We can communicate for other humans. Some humans can't communicate though, yeah? You know what I mean? Little babies can't communicate. They grow up to learn. They do. OK, but what about people with a, they never can grow to, you know, they've got a disability, for example. Should we protect them, people? We protect them, we do. OK. And that's the story we do to protect them. So if it's not, it's not the fact that they can't communicate, that makes them, just, we see it as different, different perspectives. Humans, humans shouldn't eat each other. Maybe not yourself, but someone would have the consideration to the other animals. Otherwise, what would they be if they didn't? Yeah, that's why I'm saying I would be open to eat a koala because I'm already eating like a cow. You don't want to be, yeah, you want to be consistent. Yeah, yeah. But then you should also eat humans. Or like a dog. Yeah, I get your point. You should also eat humans if you want to be consistent. So it's not, you're not consistent. There's a certain point where you say, now that's wrong. Right. Yeah. Then it's humans and dogs for you. Fair enough. I want to eat a koala because you've been a hypocrite for that. No, not really because I'm not eating koala. That's koalas. You don't talk about other animals. No, but I'm saying for the same reason you wouldn't eat a koala. Shouldn't you also extend that to the other animals who feel the same pain they sent you in? Koalas put animals on the earth for us to eat them. Except koalas. I'll put it up. Would you eat koalas? Why not? Do you care about koalas? I do. And if someone killed them and ate them, would you care? Yeah, I would. Do you eat other animals? Who are you eating at Christmas? You're in Topher? Topherky. Topherky, you mean? Topherky. That's very convenient, actually. Would you eat a koala? I would, actually. You would, really? Yeah, I would. Beacon koala? No, full corn koala. It's a weird vegan that would eat a koala. How you going, mate? I'm good. Good to see you. Thank you for all your work. No, thank you. So just a couple of animals, just two or three. Not all of them. So not dogs. You see, all around the world, bro, you see, in the animals. It's interesting, because you know these animals aren't naturally occurring animals. They're human-selectively bred animals, so they're nothing to do with God. They're human-made animals. So humans put them there for you to... Hey, humans, I don't know what can we do about it, bro. Once they get fucking killed... Stop paying for it. Once they get... Okay, that's not going to change anything. They're still going to get killed. Yeah, but people are still going to get killed. I don't go out and kill people. It's still going to happen, but I don't do it because it's about your moral code. I don't know about veganism. There's no difference. Good talking to you, brother. Thank you. Maybe you should go vegan, mate. No way. No way, why not? How would you... How would you gain all that muscle? I mean, I can get bigger, just do weights and eat more calories, and you can get enough protein as a vegan. But how long would it take? Same amount of time. No way. At a certain threshold, you get enough protein... Protein, macros, you know all this stuff, bro. Can I ask you a question? How have you got muscles, like if you're vegan... I don't know. My body just synthesizes the plant protein. Out of air? Yeah, out of air. Because I thought you only eat basically air, sticks, maybe a few leaves. Yeah, yeah. I didn't think they had protein. It's all just plants. Yeah, I mean, I just eat grass, I'll be honest with you. Koalas eat gum leaves, don't they? Eucalyptus leaves. And they've got protein. It's magic. There must be on the juice. Tofu, tempeh, beans, legumes, full of protein, whole grains. We can get mock meats as well, full of protein. Vegans aren't dying of protein deficiency. Yeah, I know you're vegan and everything, but nothing's gonna stop me from eating meat. I know God put them here, but I eat it. What can I do? If you can watch a movie for me called Dominion, you and your mates, hey, brother, because this will blow your mind, man. There's a bunch of activists that leave cameras in these places, in Australia, actually. So that you can see the truth for yourself, you know what I mean? And it's f***ed up. It's the most f***ing thing I've ever seen. What happens in Australia to animals? You go watch, I'll watch it. Promise me, brother. How old are you? 17. 17, bro. When I was 17, you seem to have your head screwed on a lot more than me at that age. I was a menace. I was a menace. I was running around. I was carrying knives. I was drinking alcohol. I was taking drugs on the streets all the time. So to have this conversation, I wish I had this conversation when I was 17, man. I'll say it, mate. All right, brother. Take care, bro. No worries. Good talking to you. I can't just walk away without a song.